00:00.
00:08Depensa naman ni dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
00:11ang nagharap ng kanilang argumento ngayong ikatlong araw
00:15ng Confirmation of Charges hearing sa ICC.
00:18Kabilang sa iginiit ng kanyang abogado,
00:21hindi sapat ang hawak na ebedensya ng prosekusyon
00:24para magtuloy ang paglilitis ang reklamo.
00:27Mula pa rin sa The Hague, nakatutok live si Maris Umali.
00:31Maris!
00:34Vicky, ngayon ngang ikatlong araw ng Confirmation of Charges hearing
00:38para sa mga kasong kinakaharap ni dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
00:42dito sa International Criminal Court.
00:44Ang depensa ang naglatag ng kanilang mga ebedensya at argumento
00:49kung bakit dapat daw i-dismiss ng Pre-Trial Chamber 1 ng ICC
00:54ang tinawag nilang politically motivated charges
00:57laban kay dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
00:59at kung bakit hindi daw dapat ito makumpirma
01:02at tumuloy sa isang trial proper.
01:04Palala pa ni Defense Lead Council Attorney Nicholas Kaufman,
01:08walang kailangang patunayan ang depensa
01:10dahil ang burden of proof
01:11o burden of proof
01:12ay nasa prosekusyon.
01:18Giit ni Kaufman, hindi sapat ang hawak na ebedensya ng prosekusyon
01:22para litisin ang dating Pangulo ng Crimes Against Humanity of Murder
01:26and Attempted Murder para sa mga pagpatay sa madugong drug war
01:29nung Mayor Pashanang Davao City hanggang naging Pangulo ng Pilipinas.
01:33Sabi ni Kaufman, wala raw dahilan para dalhin si Duterte sa ICC
01:38kundi lang dahil sa nakagugulat na pananalita nito.
01:41Pero ang mga talumpati ni Duterte
01:43na ginagamit laban sa kanya
01:45hindi raw nagpapakita ng criminal intent
01:47at sa jarro pinili ng prosekusyon
01:50ang gagamitin sample sa korte
01:51para umakma sa kanilang naratibo.
01:54At hindi nito pinansin
01:55ang mas marami raw na pahayag ni Duterte
01:57na nagdidiin sa prinsipyo ng self-defense
02:00na naaayon sa batas.
02:02Sa dalawang speeches daw na ipinresenta ng prosekusyon,
02:05nakakita ang depensa ng 35
02:07na nagpapakita ng paghimok ni Duterte
02:10sa mga alagad ng batas na sumunod sa batas.
02:13Nagbigay si Kaufman ng mga ehemplo.
02:15Let's look at what the deputy prosecutor
02:17didn't state from the same speech.
02:21And the order is simply this.
02:24Go out.
02:25Arrest them if you can.
02:27But if there is no peaceful method of doing it
02:29and you are presented with violent resistance
02:31thereby placing your jeopardy in your life,
02:34you shoot.
02:36Well, the son of the b***h.
02:38Mr Duterte's language, obviously,
02:41but nevertheless an exhortation
02:42to lawful self-defense.
02:44Once again on shielding criminal agents
02:46from prosecution.
02:48And I quote.
02:50But if you do your duty,
02:52do not worry about cases.
02:54I'll protect you.
02:55Believe me.
02:57That's why I will protect them.
02:58And if there's somebody who will go to jail,
03:00it's me.
03:01I will assume full legal responsibility.
03:05Now let's have a look
03:06at the exonerating element
03:08which comes right underneath
03:11the allegedly incriminating element.
03:16He said,
03:17just do it right.
03:18We have our trainings
03:20that you can only kill
03:22if your life is in danger.
03:24And you are there
03:25performing the duty of a law enforcer.
03:27Sa mapa namang inilabas
03:29ng prosekusyon
03:30para ipakitang malawakan
03:31ang naging pagpatay
03:32sa Pilipinas
03:32at sa Davao,
03:34sinabi ni Kaufman
03:35na wala rong naguugnay
03:36sa mga incidenteng ito
03:37sa extrajudicial killing.
03:39Kinuontra rin ni Kaufman
03:40ang sinasabi ng prosekusyon
03:41na ang mga pagpatay
03:43ay nakadirekta
03:43sa populasyon
03:44ng Pilipinas.
03:45Ang katwiran niya,
03:46ang target ay limitado
03:48sa isang grupo lamang
03:49ng mga umano'y kriminal.
03:50How does one define
03:52a suspected drug pusher
03:54or suspected criminal
03:56for the purposes
03:57that are say of count one?
03:59It is not as if
04:00criminals have identifying features
04:02such as a shifty look
04:04or a five o'clock shadow
04:05or a sack marked swag.
04:09In other words,
04:10the definition
04:11suspected drug pusher
04:12or suspected criminal
04:14entails the exercise
04:16of discretion
04:17on the part
04:18of the perpetrator
04:20implementing
04:21the organisational policy.
04:23In our submission,
04:25there has to be
04:26at the very least
04:27an objectively
04:29discernible characteristic
04:30which unites
04:32the members
04:33of the targeted group
04:34such that they can be deemed
04:36a civilian population
04:37for the purpose
04:38of the attack.
04:39Leaving the determination
04:41of membership
04:42of a civilian population
04:43to the people
04:45who pulled the trigger
04:46introduces a degree
04:48of random selection.
04:50The prosecution
04:51must prove
04:53that the attack
04:54was not directed
04:55against a limited group
04:57of randomly selected persons.
05:00Dagdag ni Kaufman,
05:02hindi raw naiugnay
05:03ng prosekusyon
05:04ng mga sinabi ni Duterte
05:05tungkol sa paghabol
05:06sa mga kriminal
05:07at sa aktual na pagpatay
05:08sa kanila.
05:09It is not enough
05:10simply
05:10to assert
05:12that Rodrigo Duterte
05:13said outrageous things
05:15and that deaths occurred
05:17and so,
05:19as a result,
05:20he must be criminally responsible.
05:22The prosecution
05:23has to show
05:24which one of Duterte's statements,
05:27orders
05:27or commands
05:28were given
05:30to a specific individual
05:31who then went out
05:33and pulled the trigger
05:35or communicated
05:37the command
05:37to someone else
05:39who also went out
05:40and pulled the trigger,
05:42killing one
05:43of its 78
05:44identified victims.
05:48That
05:49would have been
05:50the classical way
05:51to prove
05:51a causal link
05:52between stuff
05:54that came out
05:55of Rodrigo Duterte's mouth
05:57and the deaths
05:59pertinent
06:00to the case.
06:01Ang sinasabi ng depensa,
06:03wala raw nakuha
06:04ang prosekusyon
06:04na witness
06:05na nagsasabing narinig
06:06nila mismo si Duterte
06:07na nagutos ng pagpatay
06:09taugnay ng mga insidente
06:10yung tinukoy ng prosekusyon
06:11sa kanilang akosasyon.
06:13There is no smoking gun
06:15in this case.
06:16Not one witness
06:18relevant
06:19to any of the 49 incidents
06:21with which Mr.
06:22Rodrigo Duterte
06:23is charged
06:24will testify
06:25that he received
06:26a direct order
06:28from the former president
06:29to go out
06:30and kill someone.
06:36Yan nga, Vicky,
06:37exactly yung sinasabi
06:39at ginigiit
06:40ng depensa
06:41na nabiguraw
06:42ang prosekusyon
06:43na patunayan
06:44na ang mga murder
06:45na naganap
06:45ay bilang resulta
06:46ng direktang utos
06:48ni dating Pangulong
06:49Rodrigo Duterte
06:50at sapat na raw ito
06:51para kumbinsihin
06:52ang pre-trial chamber 1
06:54na inosente
06:55si Duterte.
06:55Hindi raw na-establish
06:56ng prosekusyon
06:57na may common plan
06:58sa pagitan
06:59ng suspect
07:00at ng mga co-perpetrators
07:02na nauna na rin binanggit
07:03sa proceedings na ito
07:05na may mutual plan
07:07silang napagkasunduan
07:09at may criminal intent.
07:10Lahat daw
07:10ng circumstantial evidence
07:11ay mababang kalidad
07:13ayon sa depensa.
07:15At complete fiction
07:16lang din daw
07:17ang Davao Death Squad
07:18tila eksena
07:19na kinuha raw
07:19sa pelikulang
07:21Godfather
07:22na parang
07:23si Duterte raw
07:23ang ginawang bida
07:25sa pelikula
07:26kung saan
07:27pinagbidahan
07:28ni Al Pacino.
07:29Pinabulaanan din
07:30ang depensa
07:30ang lahat
07:31ng binanggit
07:32ng prosekusyon
07:33na common plan
07:34gaya na lamang
07:34ng command circular
07:35ni PNP chief
07:37Bato Dela Rosa
07:38na siya'y gawing
07:39nung siya
07:40maging PNP chief
07:41na naguutos
07:42ng Oplan Tukhang
07:43taken out of context
07:44daw ito.
07:44Pinalabas daw ito
07:45ng prosekusyon
07:46na utos
07:46para targetin
07:47ang mga suspect
07:49o sangkot sa droga
07:50pero ang totoo raw
07:51ang ibig sabihin
07:52ng Tukop
07:53o plan Tukhang
07:54ay knock and plead.
07:55At pinunariin
07:56ang depensang
07:57paggamit ng prosekusyon
07:58sa salitang neutralization
08:00o bilang euphemism
08:02o pinagandang salita
08:04para sa murder.
08:05Sa ngayon Vicky
08:06ay nagpapatuloy na
08:07ang second session
08:09ng confirmation
08:10of charges hearing
08:11ibig sabihin
08:11nagpapatuloy din
08:12ang paglalatag
08:14ng mga argumento
08:15ng depensa.
08:16Ngayong buong araw
08:17ay nakalaan
08:17para sa depensa
08:18since meron silang
08:19three and a half hours
08:20para magbigay
08:21ng kanilang mga argumento
08:23hindi lang
08:24ngayon matatapos
08:25ang kanilang
08:26paglalatag ng argumento
08:27hanggang bukas yan
08:29ay makakapagbigay pa sila
08:31ng kanilang mga argumento
08:32at pagkatapos nito
08:34ay magkoclosing statement
08:36na
08:37ang prosekusyon
08:39ang depensa
08:40at ang CLRV
08:41bukas
08:41pero ayon naman
08:42sa abogado
08:43ng mga biktima
08:44na si Atty. Gilbert Andres
08:46ay handa sila
08:47sa rebuttal
08:47sa mga sasabihin
08:48ng depensa
08:49bukas.
08:50Yan muna
08:50ang pinakasariwang
08:52sitwasyon
08:52mula pa rin dito
08:53sa Media Center
08:54na International Criminal Court.
08:55Balik sa'yo Vicky.
08:56Maraming salamat sa'yo
08:57Mariz Umali.
08:59Kabado man,
09:00pinanood pa rin
09:01ng mga kaanak
09:02na mga biktima
09:03ng drug war
09:04ang pagsalang
09:05ng depensa
09:06ni dating Pangulong
09:07Rodrigo Duterte
09:08sa Confirmation of Charges
09:10Hearing.
09:10Tumutok din
09:11ang mga tagas-suporta
09:13at mga kaalyado
09:14ng dating Pangulo.
09:16Kamustahin natin
09:16ang sitwasyon
09:17sa labas
09:18ng International Criminal Court
09:20live
09:21mula sa dahid.
09:22Nakatutok
09:23si Marisol Abdo naman.
09:25Marisol?
09:29Mel,
09:30magkahalong emosyon nga
09:31ang naramdaman
09:32ng mga kaanak
09:32ng mga biktima
09:33ng Diomonay
09:34Exjudicial Killing
09:35sa Mansa
09:36sa pangatlong araw
09:37ng pagdiniig
09:38ng Confirmation of Charges
09:39kay dating Pangulong
09:40Rodrigo Duterte.
09:45Maagang pumila
09:46kaninang umaga
09:47sa ICC
09:47ang mga manunood
09:48sa pagpapatuloy
09:49ng hearings
09:50sa Confirmation of Charges
09:51kay dating Pangulong
09:53Rodrigo Duterte
09:53kabilang sa mga ito
09:55ang mga kaanak
09:56ng mga biktima
09:56ng umunoy
09:57Exjudicial Killings
09:59noong panahon
09:59ng dating Pangulo.
10:01Eminado silang
10:01may halong kaba ngayong
10:02ang depensa na
10:03ang sasala ngayong araw
10:05para magpresenta
10:06ng kanilang mga ebidensya.
10:32Maaga rin dumating kanina
10:34ang mga kailyado
10:35at mga abogado
10:36ng dating Pangulo
10:37na naniniwalang
10:38politika ito.
10:39Gayunman,
10:40aabangan nila
10:41ang presentasyon
10:42ng defense team
10:42ng Pangulo.
10:46Narito rin
10:47ang mga taga-suporta
10:48ng dating Pangulo.
10:49We have a judicial system
10:51naman sa Pilipinas
10:52bakit why not doon?
10:53If we say na
10:54we're not working
10:55yung judicial system
10:55sa Pilipinas
10:56so ibig sabihin
10:57lahat na lang
10:58na krimen doon
10:58hindi na ma
11:00may bibigyan
11:01ng justice.
11:03Karapatan ng tao
11:04malamit
11:04ang katotohan.
11:06Alright.
11:07Okay, sige.
11:13Mel,
11:13during the break
11:14mabilis natin
11:15nakausap
11:16si Attorney Salpanelo
11:17na personal din
11:19na nag-observe doon
11:20ng pagdinig
11:21nitong confirmation
11:22of charges.
11:23Wala't hindi tayo
11:24nakakuha pa
11:24ng masyadong detalye
11:25kasi we're about to air
11:26pero ang sabi lang niya
11:27the defense team
11:28of the former president
11:29did not disappoint me.
11:31Anyway, Mel,
11:31mamaya ang tabayanan
11:32natin ang paglabas
11:33naman ng mga kaanak
11:35ng mga biktima
11:36ng sinasabing AJK
11:37at ganyan din
11:38yung mga grupo
11:38ipatibang grupo
11:39na sumusuporta sa kanila
11:41kung ano naman
11:41ang kanilang nagreaksyon
11:43doon sa kanilang
11:44pagtutok pa rin dito
11:45ngayong sumalang na
11:46ang defense team
11:47ng dating Pangulo.
11:48Mel.
11:49Maraming salamat sa iyo.
11:50Marisol Abduraman
11:51live po
11:52mula sa The Hague.
11:54Ilang insidente
11:56ng pagpatay
11:56ang partikular
11:57na binanggit
11:58sa confirmation of charges
11:59laban kay dating
12:00Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
12:01para kumatawan
12:02sa malawakang pagpatay
12:04ng kanyang drug war.
12:05Kabilang diyan
12:06ang sinapit
12:07ni Quian de los Santos
12:08gayon din
12:08ang litratong alapieta
12:10na tinawag ni Duterte
12:12na gumagawa lang
12:13ng drama
12:13nakatutok si Joseph Morong.
12:19So confirmation of charges
12:21o pagsisuri
12:22sa mga ebidensya
12:23laban kay Pangulong
12:24Rodrigo Duterte
12:25sa International Criminal Court.
12:27Isa sa mga biktima
12:29ng drug war
12:29na binanggit
12:30ang 17 anyos
12:31na si Quian de los Santos
12:33na pinatay
12:33noong 2017.
12:42Pinonood ng tiyuhin ni Quian
12:44na si Randy de los Santos
12:45ang pagdinig
12:46na sinasaksihan ngayon
12:48ng buong mundo.
12:49Matagal ko na hindi nakita
12:50yung larawan.
12:51So nakikita ko ulit.
12:52Siyempre masakit.
12:53Masakit na muling
12:54mabalikan
12:55ng mga kwentong ito.
12:56Pero kailangan e.
12:57Sa kabila ng kirot,
12:59mahalagaan niyang mailahad
13:00ang matagal
13:01nandipinapakinggang kwento
13:02kabilang ang sa ibang biktima.
13:04Yung mga kwento
13:05hindi lang ni Quian
13:06baon namin yung mga kwento
13:07ng iba sa program paghilom.
13:09Sa hearing naman
13:10may chance na sila
13:10i-bagtanggol yung kanilang sarili.
13:12Itong mga pamilya
13:13ng mga biktima
13:13yung kaanak namin pinatay
13:15eh hindi nga kami
13:15dumaan ng korte eh.
13:16Hindi nga dumaan ng barangay eh.
13:18Patay agad.
13:19Isa lamang ang kay Quian
13:20sa mga publicly named na kaso
13:22sa kinakaharap ni Duterte
13:23na kasong crimes against humanity
13:25of murder
13:25and attempted murder
13:26sa ICC.
13:28Kasama rin dyan
13:29ang kaso
13:29ni dating Osami City
13:30Mayor Ronaldo Paruhinog Sr.
13:32na pinatay rin noong 2017
13:34sa bahay nila
13:35sa Osami
13:36sa isang police operation.
13:37Kasamang namatay
13:38ang asawa niya.
13:39Si Alvera Leite
13:40Mayor Rolando Espinosa Sr.
13:42at si Raul Yap
13:43na nakakulong na noon
13:44sa Way by City Leite
13:45nang mabaril din
13:46ang mga polis.
13:47At si Benjamin Vista
13:48na pinatay
13:49sa tondo
13:49noong October 5, 2016.
13:52Ipinakita rin
13:53sa pagdinigan
13:53tumatak na imaheng ito
13:54ng Pinaslang
13:55na si Michael Sharon
13:56habang kalong
13:58ng kinakasamang
13:58si Jeneline Olaris.
14:00Ang insidente
14:00na cover din
14:01ng ibang media.
14:06Katunayan,
14:06bago ang kuhang yun
14:07ay navideohan din
14:08ng mga unang reaksyon
14:09ni Olaris
14:10na hindi malaman noon
14:11ang gagawin
14:12o kung kanino
14:13hihingi ng tulong.
14:18Ayon sa prosekusyon,
14:20hindi man nila
14:20isinama sa mga kaso
14:21ang insidente,
14:22isinama nila
14:23ang reaksyon dito
14:24ng Pangulo
14:25na tila
14:25minaliitan niya ito
14:26at inawag na
14:27gumagawa ng drama.
14:29Isa sa mga kaanak
14:30ng mga biktima
14:31na nagsumite
14:32ng kanilang salaysay
14:33sa ICC.
14:34Si Ella,
14:35hindi niya tunay na pangalan.
14:36Parang gusto kong sumigaw
14:38na sana
14:39makamtan namin
14:40yung katarungan.
14:41Umuulit-ulit
14:42yung kwento
14:43na nangyari.
14:43Narinig na mga tao
14:45na,
14:45sir,
14:45hindi po ako lalaban.
14:47Pero,
14:48ano,
14:49pinalabas nila
14:50na nang laban
14:51ng anak ko.
14:52Masakit sa akin yung...
14:5378 na mga biktima
14:55ng murder
14:55at attempted murder
14:56mula sa lampas
14:57apat na po
14:58na mga insidente
14:59ang ebidensyang
15:00inihain ng prosekusyon
15:02laban
15:02kay dating Pangulong
15:03Rodrigo Roterte
15:04para sa kasong
15:05crimes against humanity.
15:25Para sa GMA Integrated News,
15:28Joseph Morong
15:29nakatutok 24 oras.
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