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00:00I know where all the girls go, where all the girls go, we get together, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08For women who know how to have fun, The Jeremy Kyle Show, sponsored by thinkbingo.com.
00:16Today a woman desperate to prove to her boyfriend's family that she's no cheat.
00:20Tell him your side of the story. Yes, you've admitted to being a prostitute, an ex-prostitute.
00:24Have you cheated on him? No. Tell him.
00:25No, I haven't cheated on him. He knows I haven't.
00:27I've heard nothing but vile, disgusting gob from only you on this stage and not her.
00:33So shut your mouth a minute, okay? Seriously.
00:35My brother down, Borny, little...
00:36Doesn't got the b**** to stand up and say...
00:39Look what she's got.
00:41Selling your b****. That's what you do.
00:44Don't frown at me. I just have.
00:47A man who's slept with a woman behind her boyfriend's back finds out if he is a father.
00:51I don't even want any of this to happen. Just find what's best for my son.
00:55Lie detector and DNA results. They're next.
01:29Thank you very much indeed.
01:44Good morning and as ever a big, big welcome to the show.
01:46Now, first today is Stephen, who's here to find out if girlfriend of two years, Claire, has been cheating on
01:51him.
01:51Now, he says that accusations have surfaced that she's been cheating with someone he knows,
01:56and these allegations naturally are causing serious problems for the two of them.
02:00But to make matters even worse, these accusations, my friends, have come from his own family.
02:06So today he's here to find out the truth with all important lie detector results.
02:10Let's unravel it. Stephen's on the show, guys.
02:15Good morning, mate. You all right?
02:19So, welcome to the show. Today, the title is My Family Hate My Girlfriend.
02:24Your girlfriend is Claire.
02:26Yeah.
02:26Now, this is a situation that I guess a lot of people watching this show could identify with, you know.
02:33You're with somebody and the people that are around you are telling them they're no good.
02:37Let's talk about when you met. Were you single when you met Claire?
02:41No.
02:42How long were you with Claire for?
02:44Two years.
02:45And what was the relationship like, my friend?
02:47It was excellent.
02:50You see, what I find really interesting is, are you still with her, by the way?
02:54Yeah, I am. But I wasn't bobbing with her until I wasn't sleeping with her, until I found out the
02:58truth.
02:59That's what I did to find out the truth.
03:00Well, we're here today for Lie Detector, but the thing that really interests me is that there's this girl that
03:04you get with.
03:05There's this girl who the relationship with you describe is excellent.
03:08Yeah.
03:08You're introduced, actually, at one of your sister's houses, I think.
03:12Yeah.
03:12And yet your entire family, led by your sisters, are now telling you that she's this and she's that and
03:18she's vile and she used to be a prostitute and she's got a reputation.
03:22Everything. Terrible things.
03:23Why do you laugh?
03:25I mean, how does it feel, right? Seriously, if your sisters are saying these things to you about your girlfriend?
03:32No.
03:32Do you believe your sisters?
03:34Yeah, obviously, I've got to stick by my sisters.
03:35Why would you believe your sisters over your girlfriend?
03:37Because my sister's been there, I'm life.
03:39So, the minute they said that to you, your sisters, you think, pfft, Claire's a liar.
03:44Obviously, I do.
03:46But you're still with her.
03:48Yeah, but I've chucked out loads of hands, but she won't go.
03:51I know you tell my researchers that since you've had these accusations made via your sisters, you haven't slept with
03:56her.
03:56No.
03:56But you've stayed with her.
03:58I'll be in a separate room.
04:00How do you think that makes her feel, based on your rumour and hearsay, that you, after two years, are
04:04believing your sisters?
04:05Maybe they've got an ulterior motive.
04:07Maybe they don't like her.
04:08Why don't they like her?
04:09Are they jealous of her?
04:09My sisters wouldn't lie about her.
04:12So, did you...
04:12It is an interesting thing as well.
04:13Before they said, your girlfriend's this, she's that, had you had any suspicions at all about her?
04:19Had you had any concerns yourself?
04:21No.
04:22So, all of this is from your sisters?
04:25One of my sisters, not all of them.
04:26Which one?
04:27Sammy.
04:27All of these accusations come, yeah?
04:31Yeah, that lad taught her herself.
04:33In terms of today, you've asked her to do a lie detector test.
04:38No, she brought me on it.
04:40Well, that must tell you that she knows that she's innocent, then.
04:43But why, why, am I asked her, why does she go bright red and put her head down?
04:47What?
04:47She goes bright red and puts her head down.
04:49What, when you say to her, have you cheated, have you cheated?
04:52Yeah, she goes bright red and puts her head down and just walks out the room.
04:55So you think she's guilty?
04:56Yeah, I think she's guilty.
04:57So you reckon, this is the other thing that I think is quite interesting in a very slow way,
05:01you reckon that your sisters are telling the truth because your sisters have never lied to you?
05:05No, I've stuck by my sisters all the way.
05:07No, that's good.
05:08Blood and all that.
05:09You reckon that Claire is lying because when you confront her about the allegation,
05:13she puts her head down and goes red.
05:15You are, though, still with her, but you're not sleeping with her.
05:17No, I'm not sleeping with her.
05:18And yet she phoned the show to get the absolute truth you didn't.
05:23If she hadn't rung the show to do a lie detector, how would you have sorted this out?
05:26Would you just have gone on believing them?
05:28Because, by the way, I have to tell you this, and you won't like this,
05:30your sister's sitting in the audience laughing, and I don't actually think it's very funny.
05:33Because I think that if you're making accusations you have no fact on based against your brother's girlfriend,
05:38I think that's quite sad.
05:39I mean, I don't know if you've got fact or what, but there's nothing tangible, is there?
05:43You've got your sister's word against your girlfriend's word.
05:44I don't know the truth, but if somebody could say to me,
05:47there's some proof, there's some footage, there's a photo, there's a...
05:49But there's nothing, is there?
05:51No.
05:51And they used to be friends with her.
05:53So why?
05:54Why?
05:55What are you going to do if she hasn't cheated and they've been stirring it?
05:58Question, I need to ask you.
05:59What are you going to do?
05:59What are you going to do?
06:00Stick by them still?
06:03Well, that's quite interesting, isn't it, my friend, Stephen?
06:06Because you told my researchers that if your sisters have been lying to you and Claire's telling the truth,
06:10you would walk out on all of them and stay with Claire.
06:13So what is the truth, Stephen?
06:14I didn't say that, like...
06:15Yeah, you did.
06:15I didn't say I'd stay with Claire, like...
06:17I said I'd stick by my sisters.
06:18Quote, I will not talk to my sisters again, unquote.
06:22That's what you said to my researchers.
06:24Who do you believe, your sisters or your girlfriend?
06:26My sisters.
06:27And you should have had the courage to walk away from Claire a long time ago when you first heard
06:30it.
06:31I hope, I hope your sisters are telling you the truth,
06:33because you might have to live with the fact you've lost something precious
06:36because you took somebody else's side.
06:37But I don't know.
06:38Take a breather.
06:39Next, we'll meet Claire.
06:40We'll meet Stephen's sisters.
06:42We'll give them all those all-important lie detectors.
06:43Results, I'm right back.
06:44You all right?
06:45Stay there.
06:46What did she just say?
06:47The better batter.
06:48There you go.
06:49That's what I do.
06:50Get off my stage right now.
06:51Well, good riddance.
06:54Tell him your side of the story.
06:55Yes, you've admitted to being a prostitute, an ex-prostitute.
06:58Have you cheated on him?
06:59No.
06:59Tell him.
07:00No, I haven't cheated on him.
07:01He knows I haven't.
07:02Uh-huh.
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07:57Welcome back
07:57So before the break Stephen was saying how he is desperate
08:00To find out if his girlfriend has been cheating
08:01But he also said
08:02I'd always support my family
08:04Your family all doubt this girl don't they
08:07Led by sister Sammy who's 22
08:10Shall we get her out
08:11Sammy's on the show ladies and gentlemen
08:16Who's sitting there blaming all those
08:18When he gives you this challenge
08:20What?
08:21Welcome to the show
08:22What did you just say?
08:23He's sitting there blaming all the sisters
08:24Stick on it's not right
08:25You told me
08:26Yeah obviously
08:27He told me what I've
08:28That's what I said
08:29Yeah but you can't sit there blaming them and they
08:31And I've said that
08:32You said sisters
08:33I said you
08:33Yeah you said sisters
08:34And that's what
08:35You're going to leave your sisters for that
08:36Common little
08:36I don't think so
08:39That common little what?
08:42Well how do you know that?
08:43Because she's an ex-prostitute
08:45Come on
08:46Oh well I'm supposed to know that
08:47She's an ex-prostitute
08:58Is not the word ex in front of the word prostitute quite important?
09:02Is it true that she
09:03Don't frown at me
09:04I just have
09:07How do you make these things known about her?
09:10What are you based on?
09:11Have you got fact?
09:12Yes I've got facts
09:13Well give it to me then
09:13Help me out
09:14You want to scare her
09:14She shouldn't tell you the truth
09:15So she'll admit she's a prostitute yeah?
09:17Yeah
09:17You're asking
09:18And in the two years
09:20Alright excellent
09:20In the two years she's been with your brother
09:22You've always known what she's been like
09:24Yeah
09:24So have you been on at him in those two years
09:26Or why is it now?
09:27No because I've only just recently come back down so
09:30Come back down where?
09:31From where I live so
09:32So you haven't been involved?
09:34Okay but if you are involved now
09:36What are you doing?
09:36Looking out for your brother?
09:37Yeah yeah I'm looking out for my brother yeah I am
09:39Because you think that she's not good enough for him?
09:41No she's not
09:42She's not good enough for him
09:43She ain't doing better than her
09:44You told my researchers
09:45I think she's up to no good
09:46I've seen what she's like with other men
09:48What do you mean?
09:49She's a flirt
09:50Do you think that Claire is going to fail this lie detector test?
09:54Yeah
09:54If you haven't got absolute proof
09:56How can you be so against her?
09:58Because I like her
09:59But it's not your damn business whether you like her or not
10:02It's his relationship
10:03Yeah
10:03You know that
10:04You'll sit there telling me
10:05What?
10:07You sit there telling me
10:10I'm all for looking out for your brother right
10:12But if it's his
10:12I don't think it's in your face is it?
10:15Yes well just take it out of my face
10:16I haven't come here to listen to **** for you right
10:19Really?
10:19I mean for support my brother
10:20But then if you love your brother
10:22Why don't you let him live his own life
10:23And stop sticking your nose in then?
10:24Because I do
10:24Let him live their **** life
10:25I've got my own place
10:26But in the years
10:27In the two years he's been with her
10:29When you haven't been around for whatever reason
10:31Nothing's happened
10:32All of a sudden
10:32I need to know why
10:33All of a sudden
10:34Now
10:35At this point
10:36Two years in
10:36You are so against this girl
10:38Because I'll tell you the one reason
10:40She's talking now
10:40Be quiet
10:41I'll tell you the one reason
10:42Gemma was outside
10:43Outside where?
10:45This lad's flat
10:46Right
10:46Because she was seeing him
10:47The lad she supposed to be cheating on with
10:49Oh so his girlfriend
10:50Was in a flat with another bloke
10:52And your sister was outside
10:53So we've got something at last
10:54Yes
10:54So that's what I've been asking you for ten minutes
10:56So why do you say she's a prostitute
10:58Because she is
10:59But you've got proof
11:01Yeah ask her
11:02She'll tell you
11:03Thank the Lord
11:04Thank the Lord
11:06You did it
11:07It took you half an hour
11:07But where's Gemma?
11:09There
11:10Brilliant
11:10So this is the sister
11:11Who was outside the house
11:13While your girl
11:13Why are you grinning?
11:16Your girlfriend's in the house
11:17Your girlfriend's in the house
11:18Having sex with somebody else
11:20Yeah?
11:20Yeah
11:20Right Gemma
11:22Welcome to the show
11:23Did you see her with this other bloke?
11:25No
11:25Because she was stood on the front
11:26To me
11:27Where was she?
11:28In the house on the bed
11:29How do you know she was on the bed
11:30If he was talking
11:31Because she shouted
11:33How do you know
11:33So I walked in
11:34She was laid on the bed in the pyjamas
11:35She what?
11:36She was laid on the bed in the pyjamas
11:39So the girlfriend of your brother
11:41Yeah
11:42Used to discover
11:42In a house
11:43In pyjamas
11:44On a bed with another man
11:46Yeah
11:46It's proof all you need
11:47Isn't it?
11:48Yeah
11:48And listen
11:49Is he still living with her then?
11:50He doesn't listen to me
11:51Does he?
11:51Because he should calm down you
11:53Come on then
11:53I said
11:54I woke up
11:55And I said
11:56Are you coming to tell me?
11:56And she said no
11:57For some reason
11:59Right
11:59I'm glad I let you drop that in
12:01I've just
12:04Because that's helped the whole thing
12:06I can't be wrong
12:07I'm just asking
12:08When you just
12:09Let's keep this simple
12:10Because now I'm agreeing with your sisters
12:11Because we got there in the end
12:12Didn't we right Sammy?
12:13We needed the proof
12:14When you discovered
12:15When you discovered
12:15From your sister Gemma
12:16That your girlfriend
12:17Had been caught
12:18On a bed in pyjamas
12:19With another bloke
12:20Right?
12:21Hear me out
12:21Why didn't you just dump her?
12:23Why did you stay with her
12:24But not have sex with her?
12:25What's that all about?
12:26I didn't stay with her
12:27I thought let her go
12:28And she would not go
12:30So what?
12:31You're calling me like it?
12:32Shut up
12:33You want to calm down?
12:34Do you lot think
12:35That he should have got rid of her
12:36When he discovered that?
12:37Yeah
12:38Let me get this
12:38It's absolutely spot on
12:40So you believe
12:41That she's a cheat
12:43Yeah?
12:45Brilliant
12:45Marvellous
12:46You what?
12:48Sort of
12:48Sort of?
12:50Whether you sort of
12:51Believed it or not
12:52You do
12:53Totally
12:53Don't you?
12:54Did you ever
12:54Were you ever friends with Claire?
12:55No
12:56No?
12:56No
12:57So you're not buddies?
12:58No
12:59No
13:00I wouldn't dare
13:02Let's get her out
13:03Claire's on the show
13:04Ladies and gentlemen
13:14Claire welcome to the show
13:15I have a degree of sympathy for you
13:17You've been sat back there
13:18Listening to your boyfriend
13:19Insult you
13:20His sister Sammy
13:22Say that you're a
13:23Ex-prostitute
13:24Well you're not
13:24Did you used to be a prostitute?
13:26Yeah I had a bit of a reputation
13:27Hold on a second
13:29There's a massive difference
13:30Even in my world
13:31Between
13:31I had a bit of a reputation
13:32And I was a prostitute
13:34I'm right
13:34I'm right
13:35I thought you I was
13:36Is it like a me mucky looks
13:37I'll swing for you?
13:39Don't make threats
13:41I'll just have
13:41Well don't darling
13:42Don't
13:43Because you actually said
13:44Something tangible
13:45Then we're trying to
13:45Sort this out
13:46Right?
13:47You used to be a prostitute
13:48Yeah
13:49How long ago?
13:50Years ago
13:51Before you met
13:52Stephen?
13:53Yeah
13:53Have you sold your body
13:54For money whilst you've
13:55Been with him?
13:56No
13:56Have you cheated on him?
13:58No
13:58Are you sure?
13:59Yeah
13:59How did you find yourself
14:00In another man's bed
14:02In a pair of pyjamas?
14:04I was in the living room
14:06In Stephen's bed
14:07What were you doing
14:08In another man's house
14:09In your pyjamas then?
14:11I stayed there with Stephen
14:12Because Stephen lived there
14:13Oh you lived there as well?
14:17Was this the house
14:18You lived in as well?
14:19Yeah
14:20Be a liar Claire
14:21When I said she'd come to town
14:24She wouldn't come to town
14:27Why wouldn't you go to town then?
14:29Because you didn't need to
14:30Buy any new pyjamas?
14:31Why was that?
14:33Why didn't you go to town?
14:34I didn't want to
14:35What's that got to do
14:37With her being found
14:37With another man?
14:42She's a
14:42Girlfriend
14:44And do you know what?
14:45If you pass this test today
14:46You should kick his
14:47Bony little backside
14:48Out of your house
14:49From now till the end
14:49Yeah
14:49Tell you what
14:50Is you start slagging
14:51And
14:53And
14:54And
14:54And
14:55What did you just say?
14:57You sit in there
14:58Slagging him up right?
15:00He hasn't come in here
15:01He gets slagged up by you right?
15:02It's by her
15:03For being a little
15:04Right?
15:06You don't sit there
15:07And
15:07Keep going
15:10I've heard nothing
15:11I've heard nothing
15:12But vile
15:13Disgusting
15:14Gob
15:14From only you
15:15On this stage
15:16And not her
15:17So shut your mouth
15:18You're sitting there
15:18Slagging my brother
15:19Jambony little
15:20He hasn't got the
15:21To stand up and say
15:23Look what she got
15:25Selling your
15:26That's what you do
15:29I better
15:30Watch
15:32You sitting there
15:33Letting him slagging my
15:34What did you just say?
15:35Better batter
15:35There you go
15:36That's what I'll do
15:37Get off my stage
15:38Right now
15:39Well
15:40Good riddance
15:44Nobody stays on this stage
15:46When they make physical threats
15:47About anybody else
15:48I repeat what I said to you
15:49Before Stephen
15:50This is your girlfriend
15:52What on earth
15:53Are you doing
15:54Being so vile
15:56And rude
15:56Until
15:57Until
15:58You have
15:59Proof
16:00Because how are you
16:01Going to feel
16:03You're prejudging her
16:04Too quickly
16:05If she's not lying
16:07How are you going to feel
16:09Obviously I wouldn't feel
16:10Loved
16:12I think that you're
16:13Dominated by your sisters
16:14Especially Sammy
16:15And I think the danger here
16:16Is that
16:16I don't know the truth
16:17I try to be balanced
16:18And say that
16:19But if it comes out
16:20That she's not lying
16:22You've listened to her
16:23Who thinks it's okay
16:24To make threats
16:25And insult people
16:25How does that make
16:27Look at your girlfriend
16:27Why don't you talk to her
16:30Don't need to
16:31You don't what
16:32Don't need to
16:35Why are you with him
16:36Why are you with him
16:37Because I love him
16:38But
16:40Totally
16:40He doesn't feel
16:40You're going to have to
16:41Help me out
16:41And this audience
16:42And anybody who's
16:43Watching this at home
16:43What's the love here
16:44Then help me out
16:46He never used to play
16:47That's when I met him
16:47He was dead nice
16:48And generous
16:51But he's just changed
16:52What do you think's changed
16:53What's happened
16:54It's all right
16:56Is it their influence
16:57The sisters' influence
16:57Do you think
16:58No I don't think
16:58It's hard
16:59I think he doesn't
16:59Sweet to me
17:00He's mad too much
17:00Do what
17:01He listens to his mad too much
17:03When his sisters are out
17:04They should like
17:05Stick up for him
17:06But his sister Sammy
17:08Has just called you
17:08Every name under the sun
17:09And threatened to
17:10Well do all sorts of things
17:12I would have thought
17:13That was wrong
17:13Anybody threatening anybody
17:15But you just sat there
17:16And thought that was all right
17:18What have you got to do with me
17:19To start the own battle
17:20Because that's your girlfriend
17:21And that's your sister
17:22And any sane human being
17:24Would have been embarrassed
17:25By his sister's actions
17:26And feel protective
17:27Towards his girlfriend
17:28Wouldn't he
17:29I don't know
17:31Tell him your side
17:32Of the story
17:33Yes you've admitted
17:33To being a prostitute
17:34An ex-prostitute
17:35Have you cheated on him
17:36No
17:37Tell him
17:37I haven't cheated on him
17:38He knows I haven't
17:41If I was full of
17:42My own behaviour
17:43And doing the lie detector
17:44I don't care with your sister
17:46That dislikes what I'm about to say
17:47You are vile
17:48Completely vile
17:55And the most extraordinary thing
17:58About this whole horrible story
18:00This morning
18:01Is that your two sisters
18:02When I said that you're vile
18:03For making a reference
18:04To dog feces
18:05About your girlfriend
18:06Both started clapping
18:08And I suppose you think
18:09That's funny
18:10Because you don't get it
18:11Do you
18:11I don't give
18:15Maybe you shouldn't even bother
18:16Who's Mandy
18:17My sister
18:18Let's get another sister on
18:19Mandy ladies and gentlemen
18:26Are you with her 24-7
18:29Are we
18:30No
18:30Exactly
18:31So how do you know
18:33What she's been doing
18:34Well I know
18:35She doesn't sleep behind your back
18:36How do you know Mandy
18:37But does that all
18:38That's the point
18:39You don't know
18:39What she's been doing yet
18:40How do I sleep behind your back
18:42And I don't even leave the house
18:43It wasn't
18:44No
18:44There you are
18:50When you go to work
18:51You don't like her
18:51To leave the house
18:52Do you
18:53I don't tell her
18:54She stays in the south
18:56So when's she supposed
18:57To be having
18:57The reason I stay in
18:58Is because you sit there
18:59And you accuse me of cheating
18:59And you haven't done nothing
19:02So what
19:02So what
19:03Mandy what's your view
19:04Of this
19:05Mandy what's your view
19:07Of this mess
19:08I think it's horrible
19:08The way you treat her
19:10So you're a sister
19:11Who actually believes her
19:12Yeah
19:13What do you make
19:14Of what Sammy said
19:15Sammy's just sticking up
19:16For her brother
19:17But she should wait
19:18Until this all comes out
19:20Sammy get back out here
19:21A minute
19:23What does she say
19:25Right let's take your
19:26Let's take your sister
19:27As a balanced thing
19:28She says
19:29I understand Sammy's
19:30Sticking up for her brother
19:31But
19:31Should she not wait
19:33Until she knows the truth
19:34Or I'm spouting off
19:35Speak to Mandy
19:36You should Sammy
19:37Yeah but
19:37She's coming up
19:38Giving me mucky looks
19:39She won't Sammy
19:40It's just the way she looks
19:41She's not going to look at you
19:42Obviously
19:43But alright then
19:43Can I just say one thing
19:44That's the way you were talking about
19:45Alright Claire
19:46He may be accusing you
19:47Of cheating right
19:48But what about
19:49Every single time
19:50You accuse him of cheating
19:51Where are you
19:52What you're doing
19:53Because he's at work
19:53No listen
19:54I've talked to her
19:55I'll come home
19:55I'll tell her I cheated on her
19:57But I don't sleep with him
19:57Yeah but you kiss him yeah
19:58But you're cheating him
19:59And sleeping with
20:01All the time
20:01What am I doing
20:02What am I doing with my life
20:05I haven't done nothing
20:06Behind his back
20:06No but
20:07That's why I've come
20:08I need to do the test
20:09But it's alright
20:09For him
20:10To get all into trouble
20:11And listen to that
20:12And get him mouthed up
20:13Is it okay for him to snog
20:14Hello
20:14Mars calling
20:16Is it okay for him to
20:17To kiss somebody
20:18Is it
20:19Yeah that's an out is it
20:21That's an out
20:23Absolute waste of time
20:24Isn't it
20:25Why are you so against her
20:28Why
20:28I just don't like her
20:29What don't you like about her
20:31What is it that's caused
20:32Such a
20:35Man are clean
20:36Them mucking
20:36How are you Sam
20:37So what
20:39I bought these specially
20:40Just for the show
20:41There you go
20:42So I'm alright
20:44Don't give a f***
20:45Yeah
20:45But you see
20:46This is what I don't get
20:47In a calm way
20:47I understand you're sticking up
20:49For him and loving him
20:50But it's almost like
20:51You're jealous
20:51Are you trying to tell him
20:52How to live his life
20:53I don't tell him
20:54I would live his life
20:54Are you jealous of his
20:56Relationship with her
20:57No
20:57Right let's just do this
20:59Right let's just do this
21:00Do you think that she'll fail
21:01Or pass the lie detector
21:0280-50
21:0380-50
21:04No
21:0580-20
21:06Sorry
21:06Sorry
21:0780-20
21:11I think
21:11I went to university
21:13You know me
21:13Yeah 80-20
21:1580 what
21:1580-20
21:16I think she
21:17I don't know
21:1880 she has
21:19Because I got told
21:20Oh answer the question
21:2180 she has
21:21What
21:2280 she has
21:2320 she hasn't
21:23Yeah
21:23Yeah
21:24So you suspect she's cheated
21:25You believe that she's cheated
21:26Yeah
21:27You say absolutely not
21:29You say you don't believe
21:30She's cheated
21:30What about you two
21:31No
21:34You don't
21:35Hold on
21:35Tim doesn't know
21:37I caught him in another man's house
21:39It wasn't actually
21:40Another man's house
21:41It's where Stephen lived
21:42So she could actually
21:42Just have
21:43Got out of bed with Stephen
21:44Gone downstairs to watch the television
21:46Obviously in her pyjamas
21:47And an old
21:47You know
21:48These two
21:49Assume it's something else
21:51But this is the interesting thing
21:52If she passes the lie detector
21:53Are you staying with her
21:55You took today
21:56I'm not bothered
21:57I'll get plenty more
21:58I don't care
21:59Honestly
22:01That's shocking
22:02Oliver
22:03Are you a big headed
22:04I love it
22:05I love it
22:05Who love you
22:06I think you're wild
22:07And I don't care whether you pass this or not
22:09And I don't care how bad you think your life is
22:11You shouldn't put up with that rubbish
22:12In a million years love
22:14Whether you pass this or not
22:23Why are you together
22:24I don't even think this matters
22:27Probably doesn't
22:27But then
22:28Two big kids
22:30Three I should say
22:37So we asked Claire
22:38Since the start of your relationship
22:39Have you had sexual intercourse
22:41With the man in question
22:42She said no
22:44Sammy's going to love this
22:45Because this test says
22:47Inconclusive
22:49That's supposed to mean
22:50That otherwise
22:51Inconclusive means
22:52It doesn't mean
22:52That you're telling the truth
22:53Or lying
22:54We then asked you
22:54Since the start of your relationship
22:55Have you had sexual intercourse
22:57With any other person
22:58You said no
22:58This test
22:59Says inconclusive
23:02No we said
23:03Since the start of your relationship
23:04Have you had sexual contact
23:05With any other person
23:06You answered no
23:07The test
23:08In every question
23:09Was inconclusive
23:11My lie detector expert
23:12The polygraph charts
23:13Generated from you
23:14Recorded an inconsistent
23:16Skin resistance
23:17This can happen
23:18For a variety of reasons
23:20Including a person
23:21Being unwell
23:22Taking medication
23:23Or being on
23:24Recreational drugs
23:25Are you on recreational drugs?
23:27Are you unwell?
23:29Although in Claire's case
23:30The reason for the problem
23:31Is unclear
23:32The inconsistent skin resistance
23:34Has led the polygraph test results
23:35To be inconclusive
23:38It doesn't mean
23:39Before you jump up and down
23:40Gobby
23:40That she's lying
23:41It doesn't mean
23:42Before you start smiling
23:44That you're telling the truth
23:45But you know what?
23:46I'm going to say something
23:47And I don't give her monkeys
23:48Whether any of you like it or not
23:50This is a complete
23:51And utter sham
23:53You shouldn't be with him
23:56You, yeah
23:57You
23:58Shouldn't be with him
24:00In a million years
24:01Right?
24:01You should not be with a man
24:03Who thinks it's okay
24:04To say what he said to you
24:05I would rather be on my own
24:07In solitary confinement
24:08Than with somebody
24:09Who thinks it's okay
24:10To be that vile
24:10And that rude
24:11And who presumably thinks
24:12They are God's gift to women
24:14Surrounded by sisters
24:15Who build him up
24:16I sort of understand
24:17Your loyalty
24:18There's no proof
24:19She is what you say she is
24:20But you
24:22This back
24:23You're suitably embarrassed
24:24And have you wake up
24:25And dump him
24:25You do that way
24:26And you
24:29Go
24:30Be gone
24:35Unbelievable
24:36Right
24:36Next the man
24:37Finds out of his father
24:38After sleeping
24:39With someone
24:39Behind her boyfriend's back
24:41Don't go anywhere
24:42Because I'm right back
24:43But if you want
24:44Any of this to happen
24:45Just want
24:46What's best
24:46For my son
24:47And not anybody else
24:55Whatever life throws at you
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25:06Thank you very much indeed
25:07Welcome back
25:08Right next today is James
25:09Who's here to find out
25:10If he fathered the baby
25:11Of his sister's best friend
25:13Now James says
25:14He has his doubts
25:14She was with someone else
25:15When he slept with her
25:17Let's unravel this one
25:18James on the show guys
25:21How are you mate
25:26How are you mate
25:27Um
25:28I was sleeping with you
25:30Behind your boyfriend's back
25:31But I hope I'm not the dad
25:32Let's unravel this
25:33Uh Kirstie the ex
25:34Uh Kirstie the ex
25:35Jade the sister
25:36Yeah
25:36They were mates
25:38Yeah best mates
25:39Yeah
25:39How did that go down
25:40With your sister
25:41When she discovered
25:42That she'd been having sex
25:43With her mate
25:44It's all right
25:45It's all right
25:46Right
25:46Uh you and Kirstie
25:47Was it serious
25:47No no
25:48What was it then
25:50I was p***ing that
25:51And just slept with her
25:52It really was just
25:53A Friday nighter thing
25:54It was just sex
25:55It's bought her a kebab
25:56And then I'd say
26:01I do try really hard
26:04But there again
26:05I'm going to write a book
26:05About the
26:06The best way
26:07To foreplay
26:08I bought her a kebab
26:10And that was it
26:11Yeah
26:12How long did it go on for
26:14I don't know
26:14A few times
26:15Well help me out
26:16Because you're going to know
26:16You were there
26:17I were
26:17A few times
26:18A couple of times
26:19And then slept with her
26:20But she was in a relationship
26:21Wasn't she
26:22Yeah but it was easy
26:23What
26:25It was easy to sleep with us
26:26I just did
26:28Doesn't sound particularly nice
26:29My friend
26:29How's it going to feel
26:30If this kid is yours
26:31This child
26:32How old is this child
26:34Two months
26:35Two months I think
26:37There's a large chance
26:38That this child is yours
26:40And you don't even know
26:40How old it is
26:41No
26:43Have you bonded with this kid
26:44Seen this child
26:45Seen it
26:45But I held him
26:47Why not
26:48I don't want to hold
26:48A baby
26:50So presumably
26:50You rang the show
26:51Because you wanted
26:52To find out the truth
26:52So how would you
26:53Have found out the truth
26:54Because it was her
26:54Who rang
26:55How would you have
26:55Done that then
26:56How would you have
26:56Got around to it
26:57I don't know
26:59How did you find out
27:00She was pregnant
27:01It was for me
27:02How did you react
27:04I was shocked
27:05To be fair
27:07Shocked
27:09Why do you go
27:10Get your brain in gear
27:11And work it out
27:12If you don't put something
27:13On the end of it
27:13That's what happens
27:14Why don't
27:15What is wrong with you all
27:18You don't think
27:18If you have unprotected sex
27:19There's a chance
27:20You'll make a woman pregnant
27:22Yeah but
27:23Well then why would you be shocked
27:24If she phones you up
27:25And says I'm up the duff
27:27You don't really expect it there
27:31Well actually you should
27:34That's the point isn't it
27:35Yeah yeah
27:36The point is
27:37It does happen
27:39And actually people
27:39Should expect it to happen
27:41And whether they're drunk
27:42Or
27:43Drunk on the pleasure
27:44Of a kebab
27:46They should think about
27:48The right thing to do
27:49But you didn't
27:51She says she's going to prove
27:53That you are the father
27:54How sure are you
27:55You are or you're not
27:56Where's your mind
27:5750-50
27:57She's sleeping with two people
27:59Was she sleeping with the other guy
28:00Yeah
28:01How did you know that
28:01Were you there
28:02No
28:02My mum found my little sister
28:04This morning
28:05And my little sister said
28:07Would you be mad
28:07If the baby
28:08Oh James is
28:09And like
28:09My mum said
28:10Boy is that
28:11And she said
28:11Because Kirstie
28:12I 100% know
28:13She's changed her mind
28:14She's changed her mind
28:16Because she's been telling
28:17My researchers
28:17She's 100% sure
28:18That you are the dad
28:19And that she's sick
28:20Of you denying your son
28:21I will say to you
28:22The lack of bonding
28:23I mean
28:24Eight
28:24Two months
28:25Eight weeks
28:26I sort of
28:26I go with that
28:27I don't think you should
28:28Bond with a child
28:28That's not definitively yours
28:30However it wasn't
28:31You rang the show
28:32To get the answer
28:33So I criticise you
28:34And say you just
28:34Have allowed this to happen
28:35Have you bought anything
28:36For this kid
28:36No
28:36What if the child is yours
28:37What will you do
28:39Be a dad I suppose
28:40And what does that mean
28:41For you
28:41I don't know
28:43Take him to the park
28:43You don't know
28:44Take him to the park
28:45Stuff like that
28:47The zoo
28:47The park
28:49Spend quality time with him
28:51Provide for him
28:52Financially
28:52Emotionally
28:54Psychologically
28:54Yeah
28:56I suppose
28:57I'll have to
28:58Have you and Kirstie
28:59Ever sat down
29:00And talked about
29:01What will happen
29:01If you are
29:02No
29:02Well that's what today's about
29:04Okay
29:04Alright
29:04Shall we get her out
29:05Yeah go on
29:06When was the last time
29:07You were with her
29:08Sleeping with her
29:10When she was pregnant
29:13Right
29:13This is Kirstie
29:14Ladies and gentlemen
29:23Kirstie welcome to the show
29:24Yeah you're fine now sweetheart
29:28You were with somebody else
29:29And you were sleeping with him
29:30Yeah
29:31Why
29:32Because I was in a relationship
29:34Why were you in a relationship
29:35With somebody
29:36And having sex with him
29:37It wasn't like that at first
29:38He says that
29:39I don't want to disrespect you
29:41He says that all he had to do
29:43Was buy you a kebab
29:44And get you drunk
29:44And he'd get his leg over
29:45Yeah
29:46No
29:46Talk
29:47Speak
29:47How does that make you feel
29:48Listening to that
29:49Hearing that
29:51Love
29:55Were you in your mind
29:57Into him then
29:57Were you
29:59I thought a lot of him
30:00Yeah I did
30:01Did you imagine
30:02That there was more
30:03To this relationship
30:04Than he obviously did
30:05Mm-hmm
30:07He was your best mate's brother
30:08So you'd sort of known him
30:09You'd sort of grown up
30:11Knowing him in effect
30:12But surely you knew
30:13What you did was wrong
30:14By sleeping with him
30:14Behind your boyfriend's back
30:15Did you continue to
30:16I wasn't with him
30:18At the time
30:18When I first did
30:19Your little sister's
30:20Stuck right in the middle
30:21Of this isn't she
30:22Talk to her
30:23Well she's seen
30:25Do you know what I mean
30:25She's seen him in town
30:26And he said
30:27He was sleeping with you
30:28People say
30:28No it's not that
30:29It's that people said to him
30:30That my son
30:32Looked like him
30:32Because he had a chubby face
30:34How sure are you Kirsty
30:35That James is the father
30:36Of your kid
30:36100%
30:37100%
30:38Yeah
30:38So how does it feel
30:39To know that he's denied that
30:40That he hasn't picked the child up
30:45Look
30:46I really do
30:47Have you taken your son
30:49To meet him
30:50Not to meet him
30:51But the family yeah
30:52You're in love with him
30:53Aren't you
30:55You'd have him back like that
30:56No I wouldn't
30:57Guess what
30:58He thinks you are
31:00Don't you
31:00No
31:01You told my researchers
31:03That's what you think
31:05Look she's in love with me
31:07I don't tell them that
31:08I was
31:08You what
31:09I was
31:10What happened
31:11I've come to census
31:13So today it's just about the child
31:15Yeah
31:16You told my researchers
31:17I'm not a bad looking chap
31:19Who said that
31:23They said why would
31:24Why would Kirsty go for someone like you
31:26I said as well
31:26I don't know
31:27I'm a bad looking chap
31:29Who told you you're not bad looking
31:31Myself
31:32My mum
31:32Your mum
31:34Your mum and yourself
31:35Les
31:36Who rang the show
31:37Jade
31:38She's back again
31:40Is this the sister
31:40Yeah
31:42She said that she was
31:44She understands both of us
31:46And she was fed up of it
31:47And she wants to get it sorted
31:48For my son's sake
31:50You're still best mates with Jade
31:51Yeah
31:52How did she react to you
31:54When she discovered that you'd been sleeping
31:55She wasn't happy at first
31:57Because she told me not to
31:58She just said don't go there
32:00You're just only going to get hurt
32:01The twist of this story ladies and gentlemen
32:02Is that your sister
32:04Right
32:04Has moved in to help her
32:06With a child that could be yours
32:07I know yeah
32:08Silly grins
32:09Let's get her out
32:10Jade's on the show
32:11Ladies and gentlemen
32:21Welcome to the show
32:22What did she say
32:22I said he's out of order
32:23Why is he out of order
32:25Saying that curse is easier
32:26When she has a drink
32:28She is
32:29How many people has she slept with
32:33How many people have I slept with James
32:35How do you know
32:36Because people have told me
32:37You slept with half the pub
32:38Yeah people have told you
32:38That I've slept with half the pub
32:40People
32:40People who don't know nothing
32:43You need to stir it
32:45Because I've got nothing else
32:45Better to do with her life James
32:47You should know that by now
32:48Well Jeremy I'm just stuck
32:49In the middle of all of it
32:50I can't
32:50I'm sick of it
32:51That's why I'm on the show
32:52It's amazing how many stories
32:54Start here on this show
32:56Gossip
32:56Right
32:57The same people who actually said to him
32:59That my child had come out coloured
33:01And he did
33:02And he didn't
33:03He'd come out white
33:03Yeah he said you were sleeping
33:04With a black person
33:05Exactly
33:05But I wasn't
33:06That was obviously a lie
33:07So why do you believe
33:07These other people then
33:08Why is it people like
33:09You just believe anything
33:10Or is it just a chance for you
33:11To avoid responsibility
33:13No I avoid it
33:14Because you're just a happy
33:15Go lucky
33:16Chancing mummy's boy
33:17Who thinks he's
33:18God's gift to women
33:23Who actually
33:25Who actually's got an
33:27Overinflated idea of himself
33:28And is a bit immature
33:29If you want my honest opinion
33:30But maybe
33:30Maybe I'm wrong
33:31Maybe he's not
33:32The dad
33:33Maybe you're lying
33:34Maybe you've had
33:34Every single man
33:35I don't know
33:36Help me out Jade
33:37You can't have been happy
33:38When you discovered
33:38Your best mate
33:39Sleeping with your brother
33:39To be honest
33:40I was pretty
33:41Why
33:42I wasn't talking
33:42Because we're close friends
33:44And I found out
33:44She's sleeping with my brother
33:45So I was
33:46But I got over it
33:49Why did you warn her
33:50Not to sleep with him
33:51Why did you warn her
33:53Not to sleep with him
33:54Because
33:55I don't know what he's like
33:56What is he like
33:57Because you've fallen out
33:58With him over all of this
33:58Haven't you
33:59What is he like
34:03Tell me
34:05He's in love with his girlfriend
34:06Isn't he
34:07He's in love with his girlfriend
34:08And he don't want to
34:09F*** things up between them
34:10Yeah
34:10He doesn't want to spoil it
34:11That's what it is
34:14You've got a girlfriend
34:14Have you
34:15Yeah
34:17Is that why you haven't
34:17Really stepped up to the mark
34:19Or why you've wanted
34:19To sweep this under the carpet
34:20I do understand my brother's
34:22Point of view though
34:23Because
34:24In a way
34:24If he don't know
34:25If it's his kid
34:26He's been hearing rumours
34:27That
34:27Obviously that's
34:28Yeah I get that
34:29And I said to you
34:30At the beginning
34:30That's why I'm stuck
34:31In the middle of it all
34:32You don't bond with something
34:32That's not known to be yours
34:33But
34:34Your entire family's bonded
34:35With this child
34:35Yeah I know
34:36Why would your family bond with it
34:37Why would you take the child round
34:38If it's not yours
34:41Why wasn't this done before
34:42Say that bonding took place
34:43I mean I
34:43That's another interesting point
34:46So you believe
34:46This child to be your nephew
34:48I do
34:49So if James is confirmed
34:50As the father today
34:51What do you expect
34:53I just expect him to
34:55If he wants to be there
34:56To be there like he said
34:58But if he doesn't
34:59Then fair enough
35:00As long as I know
35:01I know
35:02If he
35:02If he is his kid
35:03He will
35:04Right well
35:04If he does
35:05It's going to obviously
35:06How difficult has it been
35:08On your own
35:08The last few weeks
35:09Difficult
35:11Why are you crying
35:20I didn't want any of this
35:22To happen though
35:22Don't cry
35:25You didn't want any of it
35:26To happen
35:27What do you mean by that
35:30I just want
35:31What's best
35:32For my son
35:33And not anybody else
35:36That's why you're here
35:37And that's good
35:38If this child
35:39Has proven to be yours
35:40Right
35:40Yeah
35:42Irrespective of what
35:42Relationship you're in
35:43Would you step up
35:44To the mark
35:44Yeah
35:45Yeah
35:45Would you say that
35:46I will yeah
35:46And interestingly
35:47Jade you say
35:48He would do that
35:48Yeah I know
35:49He would
35:50Let's just go back
35:51To one thing
35:51Before we do the results
35:52What was this
35:53About a phone call
35:53This morning
35:55Repeat what you said
35:56Mum phoned me
35:57This morning
35:57And said
35:58That you said to her
35:59If Jack isn't James
36:01Is will you be mad
36:02Yeah I did say that time
36:04Cause Kirsty's 50
36:05Jade wanted to see
36:07In both
36:07No I never said that
36:08At all
36:09I said that Kirsty
36:10Did say that
36:11What did you say Kirsty
36:12I said
36:14You asked me
36:15What would you do
36:16If it wasn't
36:16And I said
36:17Well what could I do
36:18Yeah that's what she said
36:19And I said to me
36:20How sure are you
36:20That it's James's
36:22I'm sure
36:22How sure
36:24Positive
36:25100%
36:25Yeah
36:27We were just thinking
36:28Of ifs
36:28What would happen ifs
36:30You're 50-50
36:31Asking me questions
36:32But you say you'll
36:32Step up to the market
36:33If you are
36:34And if he's not
36:35He's gone
36:36Are you still mates
36:36If he's not the dad
36:38Yeah
36:38Let's do that
36:39All important DNA result
36:40Or is that going to annoy you
36:41Cause she said
36:42She's my friend
36:46At the end of the day
36:46So I'm still going to
36:48Okay
36:51The DNA test results
36:52Show that James
36:58Is not
36:59The biological father
37:00Of your baby
37:01I told you
37:02Now this is why
37:03You should do this
37:05This is a good
37:05This is a good choice
37:06Isn't it
37:07What did you just say
37:10Told you
37:11You're trying to make me
37:11Hold the baby
37:12And bond with it
37:13And then the baby
37:14Ain't mine
37:14You took it to my family
37:15You took the baby
37:17Where my family is
37:18And made my mum
37:19Bond with it
37:19And that
37:19He has every
37:21Single
37:22Right
37:22To say what he just said
37:24I didn't like anyone
37:26However
37:27You
37:27Should have got here
37:29Yourself
37:30Yeah
37:30I know I should have
37:31I know I should have
37:31But
37:32At two weeks
37:32Thank you
37:33To my sister
37:33Thank you Jade
37:34Thank you
37:35Your reaction Jade
37:36To be honest
37:37I'm really shocked
37:38She really did convince me
37:40That it was my brother's baby
37:41I did say this
37:42That if someone
37:43If somebody drills it
37:44Into their own head
37:45That it is
37:46James I'm really sorry
37:48I'm sorry
37:50Kirsty you lied
37:51You said you weren't sleeping
37:52With the other people
37:52You said you were 100% sure
37:55No
37:55At first Kirsty
37:56You did say
37:57I slept with him
37:58At the beginning of December
37:59My due date
38:01That's what you said
38:02My due date
38:03Was in the end of December
38:04I slept with him
38:04At the beginning
38:05Because
38:06Well I'll tell you
38:06I'll tell you what
38:07Whether you're upset or not
38:08Because I do think
38:08Men and women
38:09Should be treated the same
38:10You need to start
38:10By saying something
38:11To James
38:13I think I need to
38:14Say it to Jade first
38:16I am
38:17I am sorry
38:18I was
38:18I did really think
38:19James was the dad
38:20I did
38:24How can he not have been
38:25If you didn't sleep
38:25With anybody else
38:26Because that's what
38:26You told all of us
38:27That's what you told me
38:28As well
38:29I told you
38:30I slept with him
38:31At the beginning of December
38:33What are you going to say
38:33To James
38:38I'm sorry James
38:40But
38:42At least you didn't
38:42Come with him
38:43At least you stuck to yourself
38:44I think
38:46You probably did believe
38:47What you said Kirsty
38:49But it ain't the truth
38:50I did either
38:51I believed it myself
38:53Are we leaving as friends
38:55Are we going to sort this out backstage
38:56Are you going to do the right thing
38:57Yeah
38:58James
38:58Yeah
38:59Jade
39:00Yeah
39:00Kirsty
39:01Yeah
39:02Alright why don't you all three
39:03Go that way
39:03Give them a round of applause
39:11That's what people get
39:12They come to the truth
39:13Now next to a couple
39:14Who previously came on the show
39:15For DNA
39:16Are back for all important
39:17Lie detector results
39:18I'm right back
39:19Since Kevin last got out of prison
39:20Apart from the one person
39:21He knows about
39:22Have you passionately kissed
39:23Any other person
39:24You happy with that question
39:25Yeah
39:25She says no
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40:21Thank you very much indeed
40:22Welcome back
40:22Next today is Kevin and Emma
40:24And you might just remember them
40:25From a previous encounter
40:27So why in the car last night
40:29Did you admit to her
40:30Some other stuff then?
40:32I've come to the Fortin Gate
40:33Out of the way
40:33And tell her myself
40:34Instead of it coming out on here
40:35There's a couple of things
40:36You told me about as well yesterday
40:38Don't kiss a lad
40:39The DNA test has not shown
40:41That Kevin
40:46She is yours
40:50Now they're back again today
40:51For double lie detector results
40:53So first
40:53Welcome back
40:54Emma ladies and gentlemen
41:02Now the one thing I've always been
41:04Since I started the show
41:05Is honest
41:05And apparently you weren't very happy
41:06With me last time
41:07Why was that?
41:08Because you gave me loads
41:10I didn't give you anything
41:11What I did was
41:14I spoke about what you told my researchers
41:17And tried to resolve this
41:18And I sort of stand by that
41:21You know the people who come on this show
41:23They're asked if there's anything
41:25They don't want to talk about
41:26You and what's happened
41:28Is a fact
41:29It's not me trying to label you or him
41:32You had cheated on him
41:3321 times
41:35He cheated on you
41:36He'd admitted to more
41:37On the way to the show
41:38We did DNA
41:39The good news was
41:39Lexi is his
41:41Yeah
41:41How did that result
41:42How did that make him feel?
41:43How did that go?
41:44It made him feel a lot better
41:45Yeah?
41:46Yeah
41:46Forget that you've cheated 21 times
41:48Because in the last 14 months
41:49There has been nothing on your point
41:51And you said look
41:52He was in prison
41:52And I had all that stuff
41:54And I did it
41:54But since I got pregnant
41:55I'm a changed person
41:56Yeah
41:56Fair play to you
41:58Now you believed that of him as well
41:59Didn't you?
42:00Yeah
42:00But then on the way to the show
42:02He says
42:03What?
42:05That he had been with
42:06And a couple of others
42:08Now in all honesty
42:10Does that make you think
42:12That's him cleansing himself
42:13And it's over and done with
42:14Or does that make you think
42:15Geez there might be a bit more
42:17No I think that's it
42:19Okay
42:19Now it's not always the easiest job
42:21In the world to do
42:22So I want to ask you something
42:24Putting aside what you did
42:25And you say that nothing has happened
42:26In the last 14 months
42:27You've done a lie detector
42:28To prove that
42:28Yeah
42:30He said he cheated once
42:31And then a couple of other times
42:32He admitted it before he came to the show
42:33And he says in the last 14 months
42:35That's it
42:35So actually both of these
42:36Should be done
42:37Cleared
42:37You can head off home
42:39Knowing your daughter's his
42:40Yeah
42:41And settle down
42:41Yeah
42:41What happens if that's not the case?
42:44We're going to work it out
42:45And move on
42:47My only consideration
42:48In all of this
42:49For anybody
42:50Is that you
42:51Presumably get to a point
42:52Where you think
42:54I either trust somebody
42:55Or I don't
42:55Do you trust him?
42:57Not really
43:00I'll tell you one thing
43:01I did like about
43:02What you said to the team as well
43:03Was you said
43:03You feel like a bit of a hypocrite
43:05Yeah
43:07It gets that old argument
43:08About numbers doesn't it?
43:10Yeah
43:10Just to explain
43:11When Kevin was in prison
43:13And when you were having
43:14All the problems
43:14You had a lot of one night stands
43:15And you were very straight with Kevin
43:17Yeah
43:18Because you did 21 times
43:20You cheated on him
43:2121 times on his back
43:21Does that make you
43:22Somehow think that
43:25If he did the same
43:26He's got the credit in the bank?
43:28No
43:30I only want to say this to you
43:31When somebody forgives you
43:33That's their choice
43:34He could have said
43:34I don't forgive you
43:35At least you were honest
43:36Yeah
43:37Whether he's cheated once
43:38Twice or 15 times
43:40It's not the number
43:41It's whether you can indeed
43:43Forgive them
43:43Do you understand that?
43:44Yeah
43:44Yeah?
43:44Is that okay?
43:45Yeah
43:45So you've done a lie detector
43:47And so has he
43:48But the two of you
43:49Want to make this work
43:49All right
43:50Shall we get him back?
43:51Yeah
43:51Kevin's on the show
43:52Ladies and gentlemen
44:00Kevin, welcome back
44:01I think that's quite an interesting point
44:02That I was just talking to Emma about
44:04Because she was very straight
44:05About cheating, weren't you?
44:06Yeah
44:07Why weren't you?
44:09I don't know
44:10I just probably thought it was best
44:12That she didn't know
44:13Probably because one of them
44:14Was a mate
44:14And one too
44:15And a mate
44:15For all else
44:16And was it
44:17In all honesty
44:18Easier to say it
44:20When you were on the way
44:20To the show
44:21Because you thought
44:22It would come out anyway
44:22I'd fear just
44:23That it would come from me
44:24Yeah
44:25Kind of thing
44:25Is there anything else
44:26That you haven't told her?
44:28No
44:28And
44:30How is she supposed
44:31To believe that?
44:32Because
44:33You were coming for the lie detector
44:34And that would you?
44:35Yeah
44:36What was it like last time
44:37When you discovered
44:37That Lexi was yours?
44:39I was pausing
44:40Yeah
44:40Really happy
44:41I'm still
44:42Happy now
44:43How important is the lie detector then?
44:45Truthfully
44:46Not really that important to me
44:47Now
44:49I've got a lot of guilt
44:49To think about now
44:50It's the main thing
44:50That screws up with mum and dad
44:51I aren't going to be breaking up
44:52For nothing
44:54And
44:54Is it going to be easy?
44:56I mean you've done this
44:57Is it easy to put
44:58What's happened in the past?
45:00Yeah
45:02This is like a new start
45:03Coming out of here
45:04My gate all out the way
45:06And then
45:06It starts fresh from here
45:07Kind of thing
45:08Do we do the lie detector?
45:09Yeah
45:09Double lie detector results
45:10As ever the questions
45:11That were asked
45:11The answers that were given
45:12We'll start with you
45:13Emma
45:13If that's okay
45:14We asked Emma
45:15And you were both happy
45:16With the questions we set to you
45:17Since Kevin last got out of prison
45:19It's about 14 months
45:20Is that right?
45:21Yeah
45:21Yeah
45:21This is the pregnancy
45:22And everything
45:23Since Kevin last got out of prison
45:24Apart from the one person
45:25He knows about
45:26Have you passionately kissed
45:27Any other person?
45:29You happy with that question?
45:30Yeah
45:30She says no
45:31She says no
45:32Because she was telling the truth
45:38And we asked Emma
45:39Since Kevin got out of prison
45:40Apart from the one person
45:41He knows about
45:42Have you had sexual contact
45:43With any other person?
45:44She said no
45:44Just the one
45:45Because she was telling the truth
45:51And then we asked her
45:52Since Kevin got out of prison
45:53Apart from the one person
45:54He knows about
45:54Have you had sexual intercourse
45:56With any other person?
45:57She said no
45:58Because she might be quiet
46:00But she tells the truth
46:01All the way through the text
46:01Give you a round of applause
46:02Thank you
46:08So Kev
46:09Yours
46:10And then we can head off
46:11Into the distance
46:11We asked Kevin
46:12Since you last came out of prison
46:14Same time scale
46:15Apart from the three people
46:16We discussed
46:17Are you happy with that?
46:18Yeah
46:18Have you passionately kissed
46:19Any other person than Emma?
46:21So you know about three
46:22Have you passionately kissed
46:23Any other person than Emma?
46:24He said no
46:25And this test
46:26My dear Kevin
46:27Says that you're a liar
46:34Nothing from you
46:38Nothing
46:39Don't want to upset you again
46:40What do you want me to do?
46:40Just carry on or
46:41Carry on
46:42Since you last came out of prison
46:43Apart from the three people
46:44We discussed
46:45Have you had sexual contact
46:46With any other person than Emma?
46:47He says no
46:48And this test says
46:49He was lying on that question as well
46:55Then we said
46:55Did you
46:56Since you last came out of prison
46:57Apart from the three people
46:58We discussed
46:58Have you had sexual intercourse
47:00With any other person than Emma?
47:01He said no
47:05This test says
47:06You're a complete liar
47:10Now I'm going to say nothing for once
47:12Because I want to know
47:13How you're going to get out of this one
47:16I don't know
47:17I'll speak to her
47:18When we go home
47:21That's not wrong
47:22That test is it?
47:24No
47:25The first two aren't
47:27I didn't agree with the last one
47:29So there's more than
47:30The first one isn't
47:31Obviously that comes in with
47:33There's more than what you told Emma about
47:35Yeah
47:36Well tell her
47:36Be honest
47:37That I kissed
47:41That I kissed
47:42This was about the same time
47:45But if you're admitting two to her last night
47:47Wouldn't you admit three?
47:47I'll tell you exactly why
47:48And I'll tell you straight now
47:49Exactly why
47:49When I told them about the people last night
47:52I could see that they're heading
47:54And I didn't want to upset them more
47:56Any more?
47:57No
47:57No
48:01You want to make this work?
48:02Yeah
48:02Of course
48:03Sit you down backstage
48:04We always do that with aftercare
48:05We'll do what we can
48:06You've got a daughter
48:06Can I suggest
48:08Boringly one thing
48:09Doesn't matter whether it's 21 or 4
48:11Stop it
48:11You've got every reason not to
48:13Mess around anymore
48:15Talk
48:16Communicate
48:16Be honest
48:17You okay?
48:17Yeah
48:18Do you hate me as much or less?
48:19Less
48:20Is that good?
48:21Yeah
48:23Save your anger for him
48:24And if you do forgive him
48:25Make him pay
48:26Shoes, bags, clothes
48:27That sort of thing
48:28Give him a round of applause
48:28They're going to aftercare
48:29Backstage
48:30Thanks a lot mate
48:31See you later
48:31Good
48:35Good luck to them
48:36I have for this morning
48:37Out of time
48:37I'd like to thank all of today's guests
48:39This lovely audience in the studio
48:40But most of all as ever
48:41A big thank you to you for watching at home
48:43I'll see you very soon
48:43Take care
48:44Bye bye for now
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