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00:00THE CITY IN BRAZIL
00:30And there was a great mystery surrounding why he was killed and the arbitrary way in which it happened.
00:39Alongside the police, there are those who narrate the investigation firsthand.
00:43In film, on paper, and on tape.
00:46They are the first public witnesses.
00:49Through their eyes, they capture the darkest chapters of crime.
01:00THE CITY IN BRAZIL
01:02Siemens, Ontario.
01:27The small northern town is located in an area rich in natural resources, far from the dense urban centers of the south.
01:37Siemens is basically a forestry and mining town.
01:41There are many forests, trees all around, and lots of rocks.
01:45We are part of the Canadian shield.
01:46The people of Siemens work hard; they are miners.
01:48Everyone looks out for each other.
01:52Everyone knows each other.
01:54We know who everyone's relatives are.
01:56So, when something bad happens in a city like that, everyone has some kind of contact with the person.
02:04It's a very close-knit community.
02:06In the mid-1990s, Raymond Colley lived in Timmins with his wife and two children.
02:14Like many in the area, he worked in the fields in the mining sector.
02:20He was a miner, a man of the woods.
02:24He worked with his brothers at an exploration company, welding earth into the middle of the bush.
02:31He was an important person.
02:35And he was very good.
02:37Everyone liked Ray, and he was very playful.
02:40Ah, he had a big heart.
02:46If you knew him, you wouldn't forget him.
02:51In 1995, however, Colley's family suffered a terrible blow.
02:56Ray's wife was hospitalized with a chronic illness.
03:01I've seen a lot in my life, but...
03:04Because Ray was taking care of his wife, he spent a significant amount of time in the hospital.
03:11Every day, he went there.
03:14It wasn't supposed to be just 15 or 10 minutes.
03:16He would go there in the morning and leave at night.
03:20And he would come back the next day and stay again.
03:22And then it would go on again and again.
03:23In July 1996, after more than a year battling the disease, Ray's wife passed away.
03:36It was very difficult.
03:38We were very close.
03:39It's just me and my brother.
03:41And it was extremely difficult for my father.
03:43Very difficult indeed.
03:44I mean, he lost, how can I put it, his best friend.
03:52In the winter of 1996, Ray returned to full-time work and was trying to readjust to his new life.
03:59On November 1, 1996, after a hard week of work, Raymond Collin plans to spend a night in the city.
04:09It was snowing very heavily.
04:13It was freezing outside.
04:15So, in the early afternoon, they stopped working.
04:18And Ray received his payment.
04:20Then he went to the bank and cashed his $600 check.
04:25And around 4:30, I think, he was in some tavern.
04:28And he started drinking a little with his brother, Rolly.
04:32We were having fun.
04:34Ray was putting chips in the jukebox and playing pool.
04:37Ray had sold some land.
04:40I don't think he had all that money from the sale, but we were fine.
04:45He had a ton of money, you know?
04:48He always put it in his shirt pocket.
04:51So, every time he went to get the money, every time he went to buy a round, everyone would watch.
04:59And I was telling him, Ray, for God's sake, don't do that, you could get into trouble.
05:03I must have told him that half a dozen times that night, but he kept doing it.
05:10Ray was having a lot of fun and he didn't want to stop.
05:16Shortly after 11 p.m., Roland and his wife decided to leave.
05:20However, Raymond decided to stay there alone.
05:24He went through a very difficult time with the passing of my mother.
05:28So, he went to have some fun.
05:33November 2, 1996.
05:36The following morning, Christine, Ray Collin's daughter, realizes that her father has not returned home.
05:41We spent a lot of time just driving around all over Timmins.
06:11We checked the motels and, you know, the bars, the restaurants, and we didn't find him.
06:20On Sunday night, Christine notified the local police about her father's disappearance.
06:26She called to say that she hadn't seen her father for a few days and that it was very unusual for him not to come home.
06:32The information we also received from the daughter was that Ray was driving a rented pickup truck that he used for work.
06:41It was just a simple red pickup truck.
06:44And we got the license plate number as well.
06:45The patrol officers kept watch to locate Raymond Collin, or his pickup truck, but found no trace of him.
06:55However, a few days later, the owners of a building in the area filed a complaint about a vehicle that had been abandoned on their property.
07:00I received a call from the call center to assist a woman who reported that there was a vehicle left in her parking lot.
07:10When I was checking the license plate, I realized it was our missing vehicle.
07:17The car had ice on the windshield and some on the side windows.
07:23There was a note on the windshield wiper, left the day before by another lady who was upset that her vehicle was parked there.
07:31Officer Treville Cook looked into the vehicle and, to his surprise, saw a body lying in the front seat of the car.
07:43I opened the door and saw a body on the seat. I searched for signs of life and found nothing.
07:50The body is that of the missing Raymond Collin, and it was frozen from the cold.
07:55At that moment, as a regular police officer, my job was to secure the scene, to make sure that no one entered the car or touched it.
08:04I had to preserve any evidence that existed, whether it was from an accident or homicide.
08:08At that moment, I didn't know.
08:12Members of the criminal investigation unit were called in to inspect the scene.
08:19When I arrived, police officer Treville Cook was there.
08:21I went to the vehicle and observed Mr. Collin inside the car.
08:28Mr. Collin appeared to be sitting in the passenger seat, leaning towards the driver's side.
08:36The identification officer started taking photos of the exterior and interior of the pickup truck.
08:44And how everything was found in the vehicle, without touching anything, just by taking photographs.
08:48When we opened the passenger side door, we saw that there was a cap lying on the seat next to Mr. Collin.
09:00I noticed there were two green backpacks on the floor.
09:03And a cigarette butt as well, which was between Mr. Collin's legs.
09:07And I noticed there was a little blood in the area of his nose.
09:12At the time, I thought that perhaps Mr. Collin had fallen, hit his head, or that perhaps he had sat down in the car, fallen asleep, and frozen.
09:21The body and the pickup truck were removed from the street for a more precise internal assessment.
09:26At the same time, Ray Collin's family members receive the terrible news.
09:35Then I went to the place where Christine worked at the time.
09:39And I spoke to her.
09:42I didn't think about what they were going to say to me.
09:44I think when I saw them, I already knew what they were.
09:48Just by looking at them, I knew my father was dead.
09:51It was very difficult for her. She felt it deeply.
09:59The two were quite close.
10:00She had just lost her mother in July of that same year.
10:04It was too sad for her.
10:08Due to the suspicious circumstances of the death, the police ordered an autopsy on the body.
10:12On November 6th, I escorted the deceased's body to the Forensic Science Center in Toronto.
10:22And the autopsy was performed by Dr. Martin Quinn.
10:27As soon as he arrived, the first thing Dr. Quinn did was take an x-ray of the victim's head.
10:36And it was at that moment that we learned that the victim had been shot.
10:43She had a total of four bullets, three in her head and one lodged in the back of her head, in the nape of her neck.
10:53The bullets were .22 caliber and must have been fired from a pistol.
10:59Furthermore, the money Raymond Collin had in his pocket had disappeared, providing a possible motive for the crime.
11:04I received a phone call from Officer Morton, who was at the morgue in Toronto.
11:09He had the preliminary autopsy results and said that Mr. Collin had been shot five times in the head with a low-caliber weapon.
11:17We were shocked to find that he had five gunshot wounds to the head, something we didn't notice at the time.
11:24We all fell hard.
11:27We were completely astonished.
11:28Based on its appearance, we suspect it could have been an injury or a beating, possibly from a robbery.
11:35That was the impression we got.
11:38And it was very alarming.
11:40Then the tension somehow increased.
11:44Despite police efforts to keep details of the crime secret,
11:48The news that Raymond Collin had been shot spread very quickly, shocking the residents.
11:52Many of the rumors and speculations that appeared were
11:58Is this gratuitous violence?
11:59Is it gang violence?
12:01Or is it a motorcycle gang?
12:02Was he being followed?
12:03Or did it involve drugs?
12:05People want to know who did this.
12:07Who killed Raymond Collin?
12:08Why did they do that?
12:09That was the main point.
12:12As the investigation continues, new clues are emerging in the pickup truck where Raymond Collin was found.
12:18A clear image emerges of how a brutal killer committed his crime.
12:22November 1996.
12:28In the small town of Timmins, Ontario, 52-year-old Raymond Collin was murdered in his pickup truck.
12:35being the victim of what appears to have been an execution-style killing.
12:39For the surviving family members, grief is mixed with fear.
12:44The killer is still at large.
12:46I was sad, I was scared.
12:51Things like that don't happen.
12:54That was very difficult to deal with.
12:55I was always worried about whether I would be next or my brother.
13:00My uncles could be, I don't know, anyone.
13:03And I couldn't stay home alone.
13:05I always had to have someone with me at home.
13:08Always, always.
13:08Local residents are also frightened by the city's first murder in nearly four years.
13:15Overall, the city had that feeling.
13:18When violence occurs in a smaller city, people always become more cautious.
13:22And I think there was a sense of caution that took over this whole area.
13:28Is it safe to go out?
13:29Can I go to that bar again?
13:31Can I go to the community?
13:32Can I go downtown again?
13:34And I think what drove people crazy for a while was not knowing what the reason was and what was behind it.
13:41Speaking to employees at the bar where his brother last saw Ray Corlin,
13:45Police discovered that the victim left the bar before midnight and headed towards other bars in the area.
13:52They asked people for help in tracking their last movements.
13:55We were looking for anyone who might have seen Mr. Corlin on Friday morning or early in the morning.
14:00that it was Saturday, November 2nd, and where he had been, anyone who had any contact with Mr. Corlin,
14:07anyone who had noticed anything.
14:10We wanted them to get in touch, we created a hotline, and it also says that the complaint made an announcement in the media.
14:17The area where Raymond Corlin's body was found was placed under close surveillance.
14:21In fact, we had to issue 33 general search warrants to search every inch of that block.
14:30Besides the rooftops, we also walked the entire length of the street, for several blocks on both sides.
14:35Looking for cartridges or the pistol.
14:39Any evidence that could lead us to Mr. Corlin and the vehicle.
14:43We had a number of police officers, maybe 10, 15 or more, helping us with this search.
14:52The dogs we used at the time could sniff out explosives, which includes cartridges or bullets.
14:59The total area we surveyed was five city blocks.
15:05I don't remember sleeping for the first two or three days.
15:08There was a lot of work that still needed to be done.
15:11While the search ends without new leads, a key piece of evidence is the pickup truck where Ray Collin was found.
15:21The question was whether the vehicle had been the scene of the crime or whether the crime had occurred elsewhere.
15:28Did he get shot outside the pickup truck, or was he put inside the pickup truck?
15:32And the detectives had these questions.
15:35After an initial examination in Timmins, the pickup truck was taken to the Ontario Provincial Police's forensic science unit, based in Orilha.
15:45A blood spatter expert discovered a fine mist of blood on the windshield and passenger window.
15:52Another bullet is found in the cabin ceiling, matching those discovered in the victim's skull.
16:00We knew there was a wound and that the bullet had entered his head and exited through his forehead.
16:06We thought the bullet would be in the vehicle, but the police found it in the hood lining.
16:12Analysis of blood spatter allowed police to conclude that the shots were fired from the driver's side of the vehicle through an open window.
16:37But most likely, the door opened and the shooter stood 30 to 45 centimeters from Mr. Collin's head and fired five times at point-blank range.
16:53Furthermore, the pattern of dried blood found on Ray Collin's face suggests that he was shot in an upright position and remained there for some time.
17:02Perhaps when the pickup truck was taken to its final location.
17:07At some point, he was sitting with his head resting to his right side while the blood dripped.
17:14Whoever was driving the pickup truck and parked it there didn't want to be found immediately.
17:20He had shot Mr. Collin and needed time to escape.
17:25When that person got out of the pickup truck, they must have lowered Mr. Collin's body so that he wouldn't be visible.
17:33Giving them time to escape.
17:37Transferred bloodstains, left by someone who touched the blood, appeared on the steering wheel and light switch.
17:47That must have been a stain caused by the killer when entering and exiting the vehicle.
17:53In search of more clues, the interior of the pickup truck is coated with vaporized cyanoacrylate, better known as superglue.
18:03The superglue method is a fumigating system.
18:06It highlights fingerprints and incorporates them wherever they are located.
18:10So, if there's plastic on the vehicle's dashboard, the plastic will become embedded in the superglue, and they can remove it for identification purposes.
18:16The process produces some partial impressions, none of which belong to the victim.
18:23But the police are cautious about its potential value.
18:27The murder occurred on a cold winter night, and the suspect may have been wearing gloves.
18:32Furthermore, the pickup truck is a rental vehicle and has had many recent drivers.
18:36The best clues in this case come from the patrons who frequent the bars in the city center.
18:44Many people crossed paths with Ray Collin that night, but only a few key figures saw him just moments before he died.
18:54In November 1996, police in Timmins, Ontario, were investigating the apparent execution-style death of a 52-year-old man named Raymond Collin.
19:06To find their potential suspect, the police believe their best bet is to retrace Ray Collin's final steps on that fateful night.
19:15After having drinks with his brother at the Algoma bar, Ray apparently walked down the street towards other bars.
19:21I made a timeline going through the bars talking to everyone and we had a problem trying to identify everyone who was in the bars in Timmins on a Friday night.
19:31It's a very long process. I believe we interviewed a number well over 100 people.
19:37Gradually, the police piece together a rough timeline of Ray Collin's movements.
19:44After leaving Algoma bar, he apparently had a few drinks at St. Charles bar, down the street.
19:51According to the waiter there, a local resident named Pete Castonguay spoke with Ray.
19:57Ray bought Pete some drinks with his large wad of cash before the two of them headed to the Windsor bar, another bar located a little further down the street.
20:06Following the lead, the police called Pete Castonguay in for questioning.
20:12Pete didn't cooperate much with the police.
20:16And in the first interrogation, you could see that he was hiding things.
20:21I mean, in the first question, he didn't even remember being at the St. Charles that night.
20:27And when we started showing him some photographs of Ray, he claimed he didn't even know him.
20:33In the end, Pete admitted that he let Ray buy him some drinks at the St. Charles.
20:39But he continued to change the subject about walking down the street to the Windsor bar.
20:44He said that afterwards he went to Windsor and that he doesn't remember whether Mr. Collin went with him or not.
20:51And when he arrived at the bar, Mr. Castonguay wouldn't admit that he had sat there with Mr. Collin.
20:56At the same time, Windsor officials stated that in addition to Pete and Ray Collin being seated together again,
21:06They were also interacting with another local resident named Don LaChapelle.
21:10Many people didn't know him by his real name, Donald LaChapelle, and many knew him simply as Latch.
21:17We knew he was a regular at the Windsor bar.
21:22Don, in fact, never had a regular job while he lived in Timmins.
21:27He was a bar rat type of guy and an opportunistic type of person.
21:31Interestingly, the police discovered that Don LaChapelle was no longer in town.
21:38He and his girlfriend at the time left town shortly after Mr. Collin's body was found.
21:45And this, right off the bat, became, for the police detectives, an indication of a guilty conscience.
21:52When they returned to the city, we called them in for questioning.
21:56When we first questioned Don LaChapelle, he said he was at the Windsor bar.
22:01He also said that he saw Ray Collin sitting at a table with a guy named Pete.
22:06But Don claims he was sitting on the other side of the bar and never had any interaction with the two men.
22:13For the police, however, part of his story sounded false.
22:18He also said he heard Pete asking Ray Collin for 20 dollars.
22:21But on a Friday night, when the band is playing and it's loud, and there are a lot of people around,
22:28There's no way you could hear that from eight tables away.
22:30He would have to be sitting next to him, or at least, and more likely, at the same table, to be able to hear that.
22:39Over the next few days, however, the story gradually unfolds.
22:43Each time we questioned Don LaChapelle, it seemed he gave us a little more information.
22:50Small excerpts and details.
22:52He talked about Ray sitting with a girl, talking to her.
22:56But he didn't know who it was.
22:58Finally, he said that the girl was wearing a fur coat.
23:01Despite the wealth of new information, the police still believe that Don LaChapelle and Pete Castonguay are withholding key information.
23:10about the last few hours before Ray Collin was shot.
23:14When I questioned them both, neither of them looked me directly in the eyes when I asked them a specific question.
23:22They avoided any eye contact.
23:24Their movements were agitated and they were nervous.
23:28And it was clear that they weren't telling the truth.
23:32The police were particularly suspicious of Don LaChapelle's role.
23:39The police asked him to take a polygraph test.
23:44A lie detector.
23:46And he went.
23:47And the conclusion of the test was that he was being evasive.
23:51He wasn't being truthful.
23:53And this further increased the suspicion that he was hiding something, that he knew much more than he was letting on.
24:01Parts were missing, and that was crucial.
24:04We had to complete the missing parts.
24:07We had a responsibility to the family; we had to come to a conclusion about this death.
24:12And we believed that LaChapelle was the key.
24:17Not long after, another cold-blooded murder in a southern town will shed new light on the Ray Collin case.
24:26It turns out that the mysterious woman in the fur coat played a role in both crimes.
24:30In the small northern town of Timmins, Ontario, police are investigating the murder of 52-year-old Raymond Collin, who was shot dead in his pickup truck on a cold winter night.
24:46Police tracked his final movements to several local bars and questioned people of interest, but have no concrete suspects.
24:53Then, an event in the city of Brampton, eight hours away from Timmins, changes everything.
25:00Timmins, Brampton.
25:03On the morning of December 3, 1996, a tanker truck driver en route to his routine delivery makes a terrible discovery.
25:11Marta McDonald was found in a wooded area, a partially isolated and wooded area, by someone delivering water who happened to see the body by the side of the road.
25:26It soon became clear that she died from gunshot wounds to the head.
25:31Marta McDonald, 58, was shot with .22 caliber bullets, the same type that killed Raymond Collin in Timmins.
25:41Brampton police have opened a murder investigation, searching the area where the body was found and investigating Marta's residence.
25:49Since her car was still in the garage, the police thought she might have been kidnapped.
25:56As news of the crime spreads, a crucial clue emerges.
26:01There was a young girl, a young beautician, who was driving home from work when she saw a vehicle on the road and noticed that the car was being driven suspiciously.
26:12The vehicle moved fast, then stopped, then accelerated again.
26:16Then she pulled up alongside, looked, and when she saw it, it was a woman, just one woman in the car.
26:21And she looked again and saw that there was a man in the back seat of the vehicle, whom she hadn't seen before and didn't know where he had come from or what he was doing there.
26:29But because of the car's strange driving and seeing this man in the back seat, she decided to make a note.
26:37She went to an ATM and wrote down the license plate on a piece of paper she took from the machine.
26:42Later that day, she heard on the radio that Marta McDonald's body had been found dumped in Eldorado Park.
26:50which wasn't very far from where she had seen that car.
26:52And she handed the license plate over to the police. She provided it to the Peel Regional Police.
26:58Police trace the vehicle's license plate number to a woman named Robin Graves.
27:05Robin Graves was a young woman who had been married several times and had moved from city to city.
27:13And he never stayed in one job, he never finished school.
27:17She also worked as a freelance dancer and as a secretary.
27:21Her boyfriend is Wayne Jones, 40 years old.
27:26Wayne Jones was 1.85m tall.
27:29Long, straight, ashy blonde hair.
27:33A thin mustache, which was very strange.
27:36A poorly trimmed beard.
27:39He had lived in several provinces.
27:41He lived in different locations in the provinces.
27:44Primarily by creating scams and deceiving people for money.
27:47He didn't have any money, strictly speaking, that he had saved or anything like that.
27:52He was just another wanderer, a loner, a charmer.
27:56He had several female partners, but all were short-term relationships. Nothing long-term.
28:01To increase his suspicious behavior on the night of the crime,
28:04Robin Graves and Wayne Jones had both previously lived as tenants in Martha McDonald's house.
28:10However, they had been expelled, providing a possible motive for revenge.
28:16So, that was a big call for the police.
28:19Turn on this vehicle, which was seen being driven suspiciously near Eldorado Park.
28:25And much later, the connection of this car with Robin Graves and Wayne Jones, who were former tenants of Martha McDonald.
28:36Hoping to find concrete evidence linking the couple to the murder,
28:41The police obtain a warrant to secretly place a tracking device and a microphone in Robin Graves' car.
28:47They were able to monitor her and keep her under surveillance for about a week.
28:54On December 13th, the police were watching her while she was driving the car.
29:00And they were approaching a remote field, a farm near Brampton.
29:06And you could hear them talking like that on the broadcast.
29:09Look, go slowly.
29:10Or, don't stop here, there's a car behind us, watch what you're doing.
29:14Be careful. Okay, now go.
29:15Should I get out of the car or play here?
29:18No, no, no, get out of the car.
29:19And you could hear Robin Graves leaving and coming back and saying it was resolved.
29:24And Wayne Jones spoke,
29:26Well, that's already happened and nobody knows why.
29:29This problem has been solved and nobody knows anything about it.
29:32And after they left there, in Robin Graves' car,
29:35The police went to the exact spot where they stopped.
29:38and recovered a garbage bag containing a .22 caliber pistol.
29:44and the ammunition for the Winchester 22.
29:49They did indeed manage to catch them.
29:52right when they were disposing of the possible murder weapon.
29:56which they used to kill Martha McDonald.
29:59Robin Graves and Wayne Jones were arrested shortly afterwards.
30:05In addition to being seen at the crime scene at the same time,
30:08The gun they got rid of had Martha McDonald's blood on it.
30:12And traces of blood also appeared in their car.
30:15I remember that when Wayne Jones was arrested,
30:19His expression was one of disbelief.
30:24He kept saying,
30:25That's crazy! Where did they get that from?
30:27Where did they invent this from?
30:28I don't know what you're talking about.
30:29This is all madness.
30:32However, Wayne Jones' girlfriend
30:35It didn't take long for them to talk about the crime.
30:38Robin Graves was very quick.
30:41in placing the blame for the murder of Martha McDonald
30:44completely on Wayne Jones' shoulders.
30:48And she pointed him out as
30:50the one who was sitting in the back seat of the car,
30:54hidden,
30:56and that, while they were driving down the road,
30:59He got close to Martha McDonald.
31:01and shot her point-blank in the head.
31:07And Robin Graves kept saying
31:10who knew nothing,
31:11which had nothing to do with that,
31:13and begged him not to do that,
31:15saying,
31:16Don't do that.
31:17But he decided to kill himself.
31:19Graves, then,
31:20It continues with a surprising revelation.
31:23She claims that Wayne Jones
31:24He also killed a man in Timmins.
31:28She disclosed information during questioning.
31:30that another guy was killed.
31:32That Jones had shot a man.
31:34in a red pickup truck,
31:35who was wearing a blue jumpsuit,
31:36that he was shot in the head
31:39four or five times,
31:40and that Jones had stolen
31:41four hundred dollars from him.
31:43Brampton police
31:44He promptly calls the authorities in Timmins.
31:48They called us and said,
31:49Do you have an unsolved murder case?
31:52And our eyes widened.
31:54and they said,
31:55Yes, we have one.
31:56Robin Graves not only described the pickup truck
32:00and Ray Collin's outfit,
32:01as it also correctly identified
32:03the number of shots fired
32:04and the amount of money stolen.
32:07Two pieces of information
32:08which were never disclosed.
32:11The investigation became a joint effort.
32:14between Peele's regional police
32:15and the Timmins police.
32:17We were able to see their files.
32:18And we analyzed all the videos.
32:20So we are left with a question.
32:23which was to track
32:24like Robin and Mr. Wayne Jones
32:28They had gone from Brampton to Timmins.
32:31And then they returned.
32:34To accompany Graves' revelation,
32:36The police are now looking for concrete evidence.
32:38that connect the couple
32:39directly linked to the murder of Ray Collin.
32:42She claims that they visited Timmins.
32:44on the night of the crime,
32:45going by taxi
32:46and they stayed with her aunt,
32:48who lived in a residence
32:49on Tauque Street.
32:51Notably,
32:52taxi records in Timmins
32:54They reveal that at two in the morning,
32:55around the suspected time of the crime,
32:58someone took a taxi
32:59from a train station
33:00two blocks away
33:01Where did Ray Collin's pickup truck come from?
33:02It was found.
33:04They were left
33:05at the address on Tauque Street
33:07which Graves says belongs to his aunt.
33:09The timeline fell into place.
33:12I was starting to have
33:13a good probability
33:14that these people
33:16have taken that taxi
33:17after they killed Ray Collin.
33:19With this new information,
33:22the police interrogate
33:23Robin Graves' aunt
33:24at your home.
33:27Given the fact
33:29of being aware
33:30of what Robin Graves
33:31and Wayne Jones
33:32They had spent a night there,
33:34we were hoping to recover
33:37some evidence
33:39from that house.
33:41We begin by asking
33:43about when they arrived
33:44And about when they left.
33:45When they returned home,
33:47after they went
33:47to the bars that night,
33:49We question the maximum.
33:50of things we could
33:51to get a better image
33:53than what was happening.
33:55While I was questioning her,
33:56one of the police officers
33:57identification
33:58I was searching the house.
33:59with her permission,
34:01it is clear.
34:02Looking for signs
34:03of...
34:04signs of blood.
34:05As we climbed the stairs,
34:07There were signs of something.
34:08Red in color.
34:09It could be blood.
34:10So we took some samples.
34:12of the handrail,
34:13of the walls
34:14and the front door.
34:17The police quickly confirmed.
34:19that Robin Graves
34:20and Wayne Jones
34:21were clearly
34:22at the Windsor bar,
34:23where Ray Conning
34:24He was last seen.
34:26Parishioners remember
34:28from his coat
34:28striking skin
34:29which was among his belongings
34:31when she was arrested.
34:33And she seemed to be
34:34the same woman
34:34mentioned by Don La Chapelle,
34:36the one that he claims
34:37I saw you talking
34:38with the victim.
34:40But while Graves
34:41admits to having been there,
34:43she insists
34:43who had no contact
34:44with the victim
34:45and that did not perform
34:47no role in the crime.
34:48The blame,
34:49she states,
34:50It all belongs to her boyfriend.
34:53Her story
34:54It's because she left.
34:55from the bar with Jones
34:56and when they were going up
34:57the alley,
34:58this crazy incident
35:00It happened.
35:01She basically
35:02He said that he was
35:03going up the alley
35:04and Jones
35:05He had to go urinate.
35:06Go to the bathroom.
35:08And she walked,
35:09He continued walking,
35:10and then immediately afterwards,
35:13she listened
35:13four or five shots.
35:16And he explains that Jones
35:17shot a guy
35:18four or five times
35:19in the head
35:20and that he stole
35:21four hundred dollars.
35:23She had no idea.
35:24that this was going to happen.
35:26She never knew.
35:27Who was Ray Collin?
35:28and never left
35:30with no one else
35:30from the bar
35:31Besides Jones.
35:32The collections
35:35from the house
35:36from Graves' aunt
35:36they indicated
35:37negative
35:37for blood,
35:38but the reluctant
35:39witness
35:40Dom LaChapelle
35:41will finally
35:41reveal
35:42everything you know,
35:43shedding new light
35:45about what exactly
35:45It happened at the bar.
35:46Windsor
35:47before Ray Collin
35:48to be killed.
35:49January 1997
35:56in Brampton,
35:57Ontario,
35:58Wayne Jones
35:59and Robin Graves
35:59were arrested
36:00for the murder
36:01from a local resident
36:02called Martha McDonald.
36:04At the same time,
36:05They are the main ones.
36:06suspects
36:07of the murder
36:07from a miner
36:08called Ray Collin
36:09from the northern city
36:11from Timmins.
36:13While Robin
36:14Wayne claims
36:15acted entirely
36:16alone,
36:16a key witness
36:17shortly
36:18offers a version
36:19different from what happened.
36:21Dom LaChapelle,
36:22also known
36:23by his nickname
36:24Letty,
36:24was a person
36:25of interest
36:26in the bar where Ray Collin
36:27He was last seen.
36:30With Graves
36:31and Jones
36:31in custody,
36:32He now agrees.
36:33in speaking with the police
36:34again.
36:36He finally
36:37He said he was going to tell us.
36:39the truth,
36:40that needed to be removed
36:41the weight of
36:42conscience
36:44And he took it off.
36:46According to LaChapelle,
36:48the victim Ray Collin
36:49and Pete Castonguay
36:50They arrived at the Windsor bar.
36:51and they sat down
36:52together at a table.
36:55Ray felt
36:55alone
36:56and was looking
36:57of a company
36:57feminine for the evening.
37:00At a certain point,
37:01Pete stood up.
37:02and asked
37:02Dom LaChapelle
37:03if he knew
37:04some woman
37:04that could
37:05to be interested.
37:06He approached
37:07by Dom LaChapelle
37:08who was sitting
37:09with a woman
37:10and asked
37:10if he knew someone
37:11and it seems to me
37:12that he asked
37:12the woman
37:13if she was interested
37:14And she said no.
37:16At that time,
37:19Robin Graves
37:20He entered the Windsor bar.
37:21and sat down
37:23at the table
37:23Next to Ray.
37:26And she stayed
37:26listening to this conversation
37:27about him
37:28wanting a girl.
37:30Robin waves.
37:31for Dom LaChapelle
37:32so that it would be
37:33to a corner
37:34and could talk.
37:36And she left.
37:37to the lobby
37:38from the Windsor Hotel,
37:39a small corner,
37:41where did you ask?
37:42to him
37:42if Mr. Collin
37:44was it or wasn't it?
37:45looking for
37:45of some kind
37:46company,
37:48if he wasn't
37:48from the police,
37:50whether it had it or not
37:50a weapon
37:51and if he had
37:53or not
37:53a lot of money.
37:55And he said
37:56that I didn't know
37:56You're welcome.
37:58Then they returned.
37:58to the bar
37:59and they succeeded
38:01confirm,
38:02talking to him
38:03and with Pierre,
38:05that he had
38:05money
38:06and that was
38:07looking for
38:07of a company
38:08that night.
38:10Dom LaChapelle
38:11is located
38:12with Robin Graves
38:13near the entrance
38:14back from the hotel.
38:15This time,
38:16Wayne Jones
38:16It also appears.
38:19Dom sees
38:20Wayne Jones
38:20and he is introduced
38:22how this is
38:22my friend Buddy.
38:24And Buddy shows
38:25Something for Dom LaChapelle.
38:27He opens his coat.
38:28and show him
38:29a case
38:29with a pistol
38:30caliber 22.
38:32And Jones
38:32basically it says,
38:34Let's do this.
38:36And you know,
38:37this 22
38:38It is quite reliable.
38:39We're going to steal it.
38:41So Dom LaChapelle
38:43being a guy
38:43of the streets
38:44think,
38:45this will be
38:46Just a robbery.
38:47Just that.
38:49She came back
38:50to the bar
38:51and then
38:53from that,
38:53Robin Graves
38:54was seen
38:55taking off the coat
38:56skin
38:57from the shoulders.
38:59I suppose.
38:59what she did
39:01this in an effort
39:02to appear
39:02a little more
39:03sexy.
39:05And there
39:06Mr. Colin
39:07it was seen
39:08leaving the bar
39:09along with her,
39:10the Windsor bar,
39:11around
39:11one and a half
39:12in the morning.
39:14And that was it.
39:14the last time
39:15that he was seen
39:16alive,
39:16leaving the area
39:17from the bar
39:17with Robin Graves.
39:21They would have
39:22walked
39:22out
39:23heading towards
39:24the pickup truck
39:24Ray's.
39:25Short time
39:26after,
39:27seconds later,
39:28Gwen Jones
39:29I would have followed them.
39:32Dom LaChapelle
39:33he went on to explain
39:34who left the city
39:35after having heard
39:36talking about death
39:37out of fear
39:38for his own life.
39:40He said
39:40who was afraid
39:41what the guy
39:42was connected
39:42to organized crime
39:43until they were arrested
39:46and were taken into custody.
39:48He didn't tell us.
39:49the real truth,
39:51how do you say.
39:54He certainly
39:55felt a burden
39:56of guilt,
39:57because it could have prevented it.
39:59that.
40:01At the same time,
40:02the police too
40:03managed to find out
40:04fundamental tests
40:05connecting Gwen Jones
40:06straight to the shooting.
40:10The pants
40:11that he used
40:12when he was arrested,
40:13when it was brought
40:14for the office,
40:15were seized,
40:16like this
40:17several other parts
40:18of clothing.
40:19At the end,
40:20Everything was sent.
40:21to the Center
40:22of Forensic Sciences
40:23in Toronto.
40:24The jeans were examined.
40:25and on the right knee,
40:26just above the area
40:27of the knee,
40:28There was a dark spot.
40:30The analyst
40:31who examined that
40:32analyzed the content
40:34that stain
40:35and discovered
40:36which was blood.
40:38Then,
40:39we discovered
40:39that drop
40:40blood
40:40It matched with blood.
40:42by Ray Collin.
40:44It was hitting with his
40:45DNA profile.
40:46Then,
40:47That's true.
40:47It connected the two people.
40:50Two pieces
40:51They were fundamental.
40:52in the investigation.
40:54One of them,
40:55recovery
40:56of the pistol,
40:59which was fundamental.
41:00And the other key piece
41:01of the evidence
41:02It was the jeans.
41:04which was used
41:05by Wayne Jones
41:06containing
41:07a sneeze
41:08of blood.
41:10That was the icing on the cake.
41:11of the cake.
41:12To mean,
41:13like someone
41:13can defend itself
41:14from that?
41:17While
41:17Robin Graves
41:18attracted
41:18Ray Collin
41:19outside the bar,
41:20the police
41:21believes that
41:21Wayne Jones
41:22He was the aggressor.
41:23who shot him.
41:25Based
41:26based on the evidence,
41:27the police
41:27accused
41:28Robin Graves
41:28and Wayne Jones
41:29for homicide
41:30qualified
41:31by Ray Collin.
41:32They,
41:32at the end,
41:33they bargained
41:33an agreement
41:34judicial
41:34with Graves.
41:36We wanted the shooter.
41:37Who did we believe?
41:38to be the shooter,
41:39we wanted the person
41:40who fired the weapon.
41:42At the end,
41:42the prosecution
41:43he made a bargain
41:44with Robin Graves
41:45and his team
41:45defense.
41:48She was convicted.
41:48for manslaughter
41:49and convicted
41:50eight years
41:51for the murder
41:53by Ray Collin.
41:55Wayne Jones,
41:56at the end,
41:57goes to trial
41:57alone
41:58in 1999.
42:00Family members
42:00of the victim,
42:01Ray Collin,
42:02They participated.
42:04I am happy
42:05because he went
42:06every day.
42:07I could hear
42:07the whole story
42:08from the beginning
42:09In the end.
42:11Who was involved,
42:13all people
42:13who were questioned,
42:15the girl
42:16who was he with,
42:17until we get to the guy
42:18who shot him.
42:19That was...
42:21made me
42:22I felt better
42:23because I know
42:23what happened
42:24with him.
42:25Despite the evidence
42:28overwhelming
42:29against him,
42:30Wayne Jones
42:30insists on his innocence
42:32and shows little emotion.
42:35He sat down there.
42:36and didn't say a word.
42:39It didn't move.
42:40I looked at him,
42:41He didn't move.
42:42He didn't look back.
42:43nothing.
42:45I didn't perceive
42:46any
42:47no remorse whatsoever,
42:49I feel bad.
42:49none,
42:50Nothing at all.
42:51I met
42:55Wayne Jones
42:56and I can say
42:57for you
42:58what
42:58when you look
43:00in his eyes
43:01There's nothing there.
43:02There is absolutely nothing.
43:03Nothing there.
43:04There is no type
43:05of consciousness
43:06in that individual.
43:08On November 29th
43:10from 1999,
43:12Wayne Jones
43:13is considered
43:13guilty
43:14for homicide
43:14qualified
43:15by Raymond Collin
43:16and convicted
43:17to life imprisonment
43:18no possibility
43:19parole
43:20for 25 years.
43:22I remember
43:23of relief
43:24that I had
43:25first of all
43:26For the family.
43:28I remember
43:28of having stayed
43:29observing the family
43:30and seeing their reaction.
43:32You could feel it.
43:33that a weight
43:34it was taken
43:35from their backs,
43:36this load.
43:38Now they could
43:39to feel relieved.
43:42I felt good.
43:44he knows,
43:44very good,
43:45Very good indeed.
43:47He was
43:48a friend
43:49That's all.
43:50He was
43:51my brother,
43:51but also
43:52He was a friend.
43:53So I lost.
43:55My best friend.
43:58But when everything
43:59ends
44:00and you can
44:02to arrest someone
44:02of this type
44:03for a while
44:06very long
44:07It's a feeling.
44:08Very good.
44:10That
44:10It's a reward.
44:12in my career
44:13of a police officer.
44:16Wayne Jones
44:17also receives
44:18a sentence
44:19prison
44:19perpetual
44:20for the murder
44:20by Martha
44:21McDonald
44:21in Brampton.
44:23Robin Graves
44:24is condemned
44:24five more years
44:25because she is an accomplice
44:26in that case.
44:28Many believe
44:29their arrest
44:30saved a life
44:31more victims
44:32potential.
44:32The reason
44:35of the murder
44:35by Raymond
44:36Collin
44:36It was just greed.
44:38and self-preservation
44:39and they
44:41They thought not
44:42It was nothing.
44:42annihilate life
44:43of this man
44:43like himself
44:45Jones said
44:46by wretches
44:47350 dollars.
44:50Ray Collin
44:50it wasn't
44:51a threat
44:52For no one.
44:52He could
44:53to have been
44:54stolen easily
44:55by anyone
44:56that night.
44:57And to be
44:58shot five
44:58times
44:59burning clothes
45:00it was simply
45:01For free.
45:03The murder
45:04by Martha
45:04McDonald
45:04was equally
45:06meaningless
45:07and in cold blood.
45:10Why them
45:11Did they choose my father?
45:12Why did he have
45:13Money in your pocket?
45:14Why...
45:15Why was he lonely?
45:18I wanted him
45:19were here
45:19to see me
45:20with the boys now
45:21because that's what it was
45:22that he lost.
45:22He lost.
45:23my wedding.
45:25He lost.
45:26my children.
45:28He loved it.
45:28children
45:29and my son
45:30newest
45:31It is identical to it.
45:33Exactly the same.
45:33that he lost.
45:35He lost.
45:36Amen.
46:06Amen.
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