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00:00Why did he keep that gun on the boat?
00:30Michael loved that gun so much.
00:34Perhaps it was the most valuable object he possessed.
00:39The weapon was in a sheath with a zipper, which was lying on the side of the boat.
00:46That made absolutely no sense.
00:49The fact that they took his most prized possession, something he cherished above all else, and used it to assassinate him.
00:57That would be the greatest irony.
01:00Michael simply disappeared without a trace.
01:05I think they know more than they've let on.
01:09And I can't forget. A part of me is missing.
01:13An alligator could have attacked Michael.
01:15That's not the type of weapon that should be on that boat.
01:19That didn't make sense.
01:20A precious memory.
01:41I met Michael Williams when he came to work for us.
01:54I think he was about 19 or 20 years old.
01:57Michael was hired by our company to work as a researcher initially.
02:01He graduated from Florida State University and then took on a prominent position.
02:06His professionalism was impressive, out of the ordinary.
02:09He worked 16, 18 hours a day.
02:13He always insisted on working harder than everyone else.
02:17One day, Clay took Mike's keys to force him to go home at night after work.
02:24Because Mike worked all the time.
02:29He always dedicated himself to doing the hard work.
02:32His father was a bus driver in Greenhound.
02:36The mother took care of the children, running a daycare at home.
02:39And they sacrificed, tightened their belts, and saved money to be able to send him to a private Christian school.
02:47Mike grew up in a very humble neighborhood.
02:50And he wanted to support his family in a way he wasn't used to during his childhood.
02:56Mike was ridiculed at the office.
02:58He ran down the stairs and flew out the door.
03:03And I was asking the people upstairs, "Where is Mike going?"
03:06And they would say, "Oh, he ran across the street to fill up his wife Denise's car with gas."
03:10And I said, "Are you kidding me? Who goes out to fill up their wife's car with gas?"
03:14He treated her like a princess.
03:18Denise Williams came from a very good family.
03:21And when she met Mike, she said, "That's the man I want."
03:25And he won it over.
03:25Mike and Denise were boyfriend and girlfriend in high school.
03:30Both were awarded prizes last year for various reasons.
03:35They were both very popular.
03:37And their daughter, Ansley, was the love of his life.
03:42He was a fighter because of the way he was raised.
03:44But Mike Williams managed to incorporate an incredible amount of hunting, fishing, and water sports into his routine.
03:53He lived life to the fullest.
04:04It was a Friday afternoon.
04:06I said, what are you going to do this weekend?
04:08He replied, "I'm going out to hunt."
04:10And since it's our anniversary, we're going to the Gibson Dam in Apalachicola.
04:14We'll sleep there and come back on Saturday.
04:15My supervisor called me and informed me that a man was waiting at a dock on Seminor Lake.
04:33His name was Mr. Merrill and he was Mike Williams' father-in-law.
04:37Mr. Merrill explained to me that his daughter, Denise, was worried because Mike had gone out that morning to hunt ducks and hadn't returned at the expected time.
04:48That particular day was Mike's wedding anniversary.
04:52And that's when Mr. Merrill went to Seminor Lake to try and locate him and found his car.
04:57And then he called our office.
04:59Lake Seminor is approximately 55 kilometers long.
05:07But it's a shallow lake.
05:10It has a lot of sediment and pieces of tree trunks.
05:15Things that can be dangerous on a boat.
05:18You need to know very well how to navigate the lake to avoid problems.
05:24We think he might have hit a tree trunk and flipped over.
05:26But since the water was very cold, perhaps he drowned or swam to an island.
05:38Our daughter Lindsay was very good friends with Mike and Denise.
05:42And since she was graduating from university, we were going to have a party at home.
05:46when we received a phone call from one of Denise's sisters.
05:49And she said that Mike had gone out hunting.
05:52And he had disappeared.
05:54She just wanted to let me know.
05:55She was about to hang up when I said...
05:58Hey, hey, hey.
06:00Explain it to me better.
06:01Where?
06:02As?
06:03Tell me more.
06:04I grabbed a jacket and an hour later we were on the shore of Lake Seminor.
06:09That was awful.
06:13And Clay asked where, where he was,
06:16When was the last time anyone saw him, and where did he go hunting?
06:19And that was the first time in my life that I understood the meaning of having to go somewhere.
06:26At that moment I thought of the people who lost loved ones in a plane crash or drowned at sea and are left stranded on the beach.
06:34I understand now.
06:34When we arrived at the lake, I would say there were about ten people there.
06:40Mike's best friend, Brian Winchester, and his father were at the lake looking for Mike.
06:46Brian Winchester and Mike Williams had been in the same class.
06:50They were always together during high school and also hung out with Denise.
06:54And Brian also married a woman who was in the same class as him in high school.
06:59Brian and Mike were great friends during high school and also in early adulthood.
07:05Mike and Brian used to travel hunting together.
07:09Mike Williams and Brian Winchester were inseparable, very close friends.
07:15We typically record three to five disappearances per year in a semi-native lake.
07:21Most people show up.
07:23The crowd grew.
07:24The day went by, and as news of Mike's disappearance spread,
07:29More people arrived to see if they could help with the search and find our friend Mike.
07:39Clay and I happened to be at the lake when they found Mike's boat.
07:44The boat was found by Brian Winchester and his father.
07:48It was very difficult for all of us.
07:50We were very shaken.
07:52The hunting and fishing service agent opened the fuel tank cap and discovered it was full of gasoline.
08:00Then he examined the switch, which is a safety device in case the pilot falls into the water.
08:04Generally, a cord attached to the life vest automatically shuts off the engine.
08:09He was in the right place.
08:10He had typical hunting equipment on board the boat, the kind you usually find on a duck hunting boat.
08:17such as lures and rifle cartridges.
08:20Mike's gun was in a zippered sheath, which was lying on the side of the boat.
08:25She was his greatest pride.
08:27Perhaps it was the most valuable thing he had.
08:29My supervisor said we would return in the morning when there was light.
08:37because of Lake Seminolo, because of the scattered tree trunks,
08:40It's a dangerous place to go boating at night.
08:43I remember when they couldn't find Mike that first night,
08:46Clay told me that it wasn't a good sign, because he should have been found already.
08:52Denise was devastated.
08:56She was crying, she seemed very upset.
08:59I was very worried about my husband.
09:10We arrived there during the day.
09:12We got into the boat and began what we called a sweep search of the area where the boat had been found.
09:19The teams used PVC pipes and went searching, digging up the entire bottom.
09:25trying to find something down there that looked irregular.
09:28Normally you pilot this boat standing up instead of sitting down.
09:33We think Mike Williams must have hit a log and ended up falling off the boat.
09:39We had five boats in the water at the same time and a lot of people on land looking for him.
09:51We searched every day and began to focus more on the route we thought the boat had taken.
09:58because we think that if he hit a tree trunk or a stump,
10:01Which direction did he go, where had the wind pushed the boat?
10:06He must have been somewhere near the dock.
10:09because the boat was found near the vegetation line, to the right of where it had entered the lake.
10:14Duck hunters often wear overalls that go up to their chest.
10:20If the hunter falls into the water, his jumpsuit will fill with water.
10:24And it's very difficult to swim, because all that water starts to sink you.
10:28And that was our theory.
10:30He had fallen from the boat, his overalls filled with water, and he drowned.
10:34It was about a meter of water.
10:37If Maico had fallen into the lake, he would have been fine.
10:41The hunting and fishing service provided a helicopter with a pilot and an observer.
10:46and they flew very low and slowly over the area,
10:49trying to get into a strategic position to see if they could see anything
10:53that the boats let pass.
10:55And they couldn't find anything.
10:57I think that Sunday was a decisive day for us.
11:04because they were using infrared instruments on the helicopters
11:08and they detected no heat signature at any point in that lake.
11:13And without a heat signature, there was no life.
11:17They couldn't find Mike.
11:19They only found the boat and the car.
11:22I thought he might be dead, but he didn't die in Lake Seminor.
11:27We heard about a duck hunter who disappeared in that lake.
11:36The initial reaction of most people was
11:38He's another country bumpkin who drank too much, fell off the boat, and drowned.
11:42Because this happened at that lake several times.
11:44It was quite likely that this had happened.
11:47But the searches were comprehensive.
11:49There were planes landed on the road, there were helicopters,
11:54And Mike de Talares' friends and relatives were there.
11:58After spending the whole day at the lake,
12:01My wife and I went to Mike and Denise's house.
12:04Denise's mother was there and said that her daughter would stay there.
12:08And he wouldn't go to the lake because he's prepared to go to any hospital.
12:12Where to take Mike when he was found.
12:15They thought Mike would be found and he would be okay.
12:18She was completely devastated, I mean, she was crying the whole time.
12:24Denise literally collapsed into my arms.
12:27She was visibly shaken.
12:29She sat on the stairs, put her hands to her head, and began to cry.
12:33She was very worried about her husband.
12:37We went to see Mike's mother, Sherry.
12:39She was shaken, but hopeful.
12:42She tried not to get discouraged.
12:44And I truly believed that we were going to find him.
12:48But since it hadn't appeared yet, that wasn't good.
12:51There was a huge group looking for him.
12:54Denise's father was one of the people who always went there.
12:57He went every day for weeks and weeks.
13:02The search continued and other agencies came to help.
13:06Jackson County police also participated.
13:10There were divers from other agencies as well as sniffer dogs.
13:14We used all available resources to try to find Mike Williams.
13:19As is often the case in a search operation,
13:23After the first two days, hope waned.
13:26The real chances of finding the person alive are getting smaller and smaller.
13:29when the searches take too long.
13:32I think that in the first half of the operation,
13:34The hunting and fishing team was certain he was there.
13:37I just needed to find him.
13:38People gradually had to go back to work.
13:41Everyone needed to get back to their routine.
13:43And as the weeks went by,
13:47It was becoming increasingly obvious that Mike Williams wasn't coming back.
13:52All that remained was to find his body.
13:55Eighty people drowned in Seminole Lake.
13:58Mike was the only one who never showed up.
14:00It's very rare that we don't recover the body if it's actually there.
14:06Nine times out of ten we find the body when it floats to the surface.
14:11Many factors determine how long this might take.
14:15Low temperature is a factor,
14:17because what makes the body float to the surface,
14:20Naturally, it's the fact that it inflates with the gases from decomposition.
14:24This doesn't happen as quickly when it's cold.
14:27So, we figured his body hadn't floated to the surface yet.
14:31because of the cold weather and the icy water.
14:33In the south, when you lose someone,
14:38We give our full support to the family.
14:41We did this with Denise and we did this with Cheryl.
14:44It was very sad for everyone.
14:46The more so for a mother,
14:46You could see the suffering on Cheryl's face.
14:50We searched for about two weeks with the entire staff.
14:53and then we narrow it down to an agent
14:56who went out to do an inspection once a day.
14:59I would go to the lake every morning and search the area for him.
15:04Since the Seminove lake is filled with sediment, branches, and tree trunks,
15:09It was quite possible that the body had become entangled in something.
15:13instead of floating.
15:14And that's what we thought had happened.
15:19I received a call on my cell phone.
15:21from Mike's best friend, Brian Winchester.
15:23And he wanted to give me details of the search operation.
15:27And he said, I hate to tell you this,
15:29But Mike may have been devoured by an alligator.
15:33When you hear something like that,
15:35It's impossible not to imagine the horror of the scene.
15:40I think the most interesting thing about Cheryl is...
15:43Mike's mother told me that,
15:45As soon as she reached the edge of the lake,
15:47She heard a voice in her head.
15:49Mike isn't here, go find him.
15:51Mike wasn't eaten by alligators.
15:53And she believed that this was a sign.
15:55that appearances can be deceiving.
15:58So I called Florida State University.
16:02And I spoke with a leading expert on alligators.
16:05He said, no, your son couldn't have been devoured by alligators.
16:10It was cold, at most 10 degrees.
16:12when the alligators barely move.
16:15They hibernate when the temperature is low.
16:18Mike's mother decided to act on her own, little by little.
16:23And he began a methodical campaign.
16:25She spoke to every police officer she met.
16:27She paid for billboards and posted photos of Mike in those spaces.
16:31saying, "Help me find my son."
16:34About a month later, Cheryl wanted an investigation.
16:37But Denise wanted to get her life back on track.
16:39She never had any hope that he was alive.
16:43She didn't want to hear his name.
16:47She didn't want me to interfere.
16:50It was a terrible tragedy.
16:52The husband was dead.
16:53He drowned during a hunting accident in Lake Seminovo.
16:56It was traumatic, but she had a daughter to raise.
16:58and needed to move on.
17:00Then, suddenly, a pair of blue fishing overalls appeared in the house.
17:04A fisherman from Snides and his son were fishing.
17:11And there was the jumpsuit,
17:12Where everyone had already been looking, all these months.
17:16A diver went there and found a hunting jacket.
17:18And inside that jacket was a hunting license.
17:20which was in the name of Mike Williams.
17:22Mike's license and jumpsuit were enough.
17:25to convince a judge to sign the documents
17:27who declared him legally dead.
17:30Mike had several life insurance policies.
17:34and with the issuance of the death certificate,
17:37Denise received the insurance money.
17:38and he ended up working part-time
17:40at Florida State University,
17:42Besides, Mike had payments to receive.
17:44I deposited his salary for about six months.
17:47Denise became financially secure.
17:51This story is not over.
17:53because Cheryl didn't believe it
17:54that her son had been killed by alligators
17:57at Lake Seminovo.
17:58She was determined and wasn't going to stop.
18:01until the truth is discovered.
18:04She began to suspect that something sinister was happening.
18:07behind this.
18:14The community was very afraid.
18:16to point fingers
18:18Because just imagine the horror.
18:19to point at anyone
18:21and say
18:22I suspect there was premeditation.
18:24on the death of Mike Williams
18:26because there was no proof
18:27And all that was left was to hope.
18:29so that nobody would have anything to do with it.
18:31The case has lost momentum.
18:34And we waited.
18:35Something happened.
18:37Then several years passed.
18:39and in 2003
18:41Brian got divorced.
18:42and suddenly
18:43he and Denise
18:44They started dating.
18:46It was strange.
18:48Shortly after
18:49Denise and Brian got married.
18:51And that was a scandal.
18:53in the city.
18:55He got married.
18:56with my best friend's wife
18:59after he disappeared.
19:02This story seemed poorly told.
19:03Wow!
19:10Isn't that strange?
19:11Suddenly
19:12Mike's best friend
19:13He married his widow.
19:16It was a beautiful wedding.
19:17in the neighborhood where Mike
19:19and Denise
19:20they had bought
19:21A house to start with.
19:22I wouldn't have done it there.
19:23If it were my second marriage.
19:25Brian moved
19:25for the house
19:26in which Mike
19:27Denise and I lived there.
19:28Mike's mother
19:29It's Cheryl
19:29and said
19:30I think they know more.
19:32based on what they told them.
19:34She protested.
19:35in front of the church
19:36in which Brian
19:37Denise and I got married.
19:38She was ridiculed.
19:40by the guests
19:41And that's what happened.
19:41partly
19:42because Denise
19:43and Brian
19:44They said that she
19:45She was crazy.
19:46It was easy
19:47don't take it seriously
19:48Because she exposed herself too much.
19:50Brian and Denise
19:51They left saying
19:52She's completely crazy.
19:54Stay away from her.
19:55And the blackmail
19:56What they did was
19:57we will move away
19:58Ainsley
19:59from you
19:59who is his granddaughter.
20:01The only daughter
20:01from Mike
20:02for the rest
20:03of your life
20:04if you continue
20:05insisting
20:06in this investigation
20:06We will not accept this.
20:09I lost Mike.
20:10And that's how I lost Ainsley.
20:12I loved her.
20:13She still lives there.
20:14in my heart.
20:15My heart
20:15It's big enough.
20:16to fight with 50 grandchildren.
20:18Why is that?
20:19that Brian
20:20and Denise
20:21they didn't show
20:22the minimum
20:23of empathy
20:24by her
20:25and they tried to understand
20:27why did she keep going
20:30Insisting on this story?
20:32Once
20:33Denise
20:34he said
20:34you need
20:35stop asking
20:36for them to investigate.
20:37Cheryl
20:37said that it was
20:38how to shake
20:38a red cloth
20:39in front
20:40of a bull.
20:40She wrote
20:41to the governor
20:42every day
20:43requesting that the cabinet
20:45it started
20:46an investigation.
20:47She sent
20:48more than two thousand
20:49letters to him
20:50but the governor
20:52He never replied.
20:53She was expressing herself.
20:54all the time
20:55trying to make someone
20:56to open an investigation.
20:57She wasn't going to stop.
20:58same
20:59because I was fighting
21:00so what really
21:01I believed.
21:02I can't forget.
21:04I will never forget.
21:05I always think about that.
21:06A part of me is missing.
21:09my youngest son
21:11It's not here.
21:13She was very strong.
21:15she continued
21:16insisting
21:17so that there would be
21:18an investigation.
21:19In 2005
21:20she finally succeeded
21:21because of the wedding
21:22the police started
21:23to be investigated
21:23what there was.
21:25The local police station
21:26Brian was summoned.
21:27and also Denise
21:29And they began.
21:30to speak.
21:31Denise appeared
21:32with a lawyer
21:33to be questioned
21:34about her husband
21:35This aroused suspicion.
21:37why aren't you
21:37interested in finding out
21:39what happened
21:39with her husband
21:40and even called
21:41A lawyer?
21:44With Brian
21:44and Denise are married
21:45We waited.
21:46some crisis
21:47in the relationship
21:48we knew it was
21:48It's just a matter of time.
21:50Denise was
21:51very much to the church
21:52She was a Christian.
21:53while Brian
21:54I just wanted to know
21:55of walking with
21:55prostitutes
21:56they weren't
21:57in sync.
21:58The wedding
21:59It began to fall apart.
22:00they weren't
22:01more living together.
22:03Brian is back.
22:04living with his parents
22:05and then we
22:06I knew that they
22:07They had argued.
22:08The police
22:09I was optimistic
22:10perhaps marriage
22:12theirs ended
22:13and who knows
22:14new reviews
22:15they would end up taking
22:16the discovery
22:17new evidence.
22:19Brian
22:19and Denise
22:20They continued seeing each other.
22:21after the separation.
22:22this fact
22:24certainly
22:25Brian took it
22:26to believe
22:27that was possible
22:28to reconcile
22:29with his wife.
22:30Both
22:30were taking
22:31different paths
22:32I couldn't really
22:33It will work out.
22:37Brian
22:38He kept trying
22:39talk to Denise
22:40and in the end
22:41she stopped answering
22:42his connections
22:43Then he freaked out.
22:44Denise
22:51I was leaving
22:52from home
22:53and when she
22:54He got into the car.
22:54Brian appeared
22:55behind her
22:56and jumped
22:56to the bank
22:57from the front.
22:58He pointed
22:59a weapon
22:59for Denise
22:59and spoke
23:00For her to drive.
23:11He really wanted to.
23:12that Denise
23:13Talk to him.
23:20After a few hours
23:21they entered
23:24in a store
23:25convenience
23:25and they stayed
23:27there for a while.
23:28Then she took advantage of it.
23:29to try
23:29Calm him down.
23:31She succeeded.
23:32convince him
23:32getting out of the car.
23:35So Denise
23:36told
23:36for her sister
23:37what happened.
23:38This sister
23:39by chance
23:39she was married
23:40with a police officer
23:40and said
23:42we will
23:43report this
23:43but Denise
23:44I didn't want to.
23:45Sister
23:45She spoke to her husband.
23:46and he said
23:46no,
23:47we will
23:47Report him.
23:48So Denise
23:48it ended up
23:49at the police station
23:49police
23:50that same afternoon
23:51and told
23:51the story
23:52of the kidnapping.
23:54He appeared
23:55and grabbed me
23:55and then he
23:57He pulled out a gun.
23:58but it wasn't
23:58a hunting weapon
23:59It was a revolver.
24:00I don't know which one it was.
24:01and he leaned against it
24:02right here
24:02in my ribs
24:03and I said
24:04are you looking for
24:05end our lives
24:07today?
24:08Yes, mine.
24:08I want to kill myself.
24:09Then he said
24:11That's right.
24:11must have said
24:12a million times
24:13I want to kill myself.
24:14of course, in the beginning
24:15It seemed like he was
24:16freaking out
24:16and then
24:17while we
24:18was talking
24:19I came to agree.
24:21with anything
24:22that's what he was saying.
24:23But then
24:23the interview with her
24:24as a victim
24:25it transformed
24:26in an attempt
24:27to obtain information
24:28about what happened
24:29with Mike Williams
24:30Look, it's obvious.
24:31that he is a man
24:31dangerous
24:32How much do you know?
24:33He wasn't going to kill himself.
24:34Denise
24:34He was going to kill you.
24:35so that you don't
24:36report later
24:37That's the truth.
24:4015 years ago
24:41he appeared
24:42and I told you
24:42what had I done
24:43That's nonsense.
24:43wasn't it?
24:46No
24:46Denise
24:47Do you think he was...
24:49responsible
24:49due to disappearance
24:51From Mike?
24:51I don't think so.
24:52and I never found
24:52I never
24:54would have married
24:55with him
24:55if I thought that
24:56I mean
24:56from the bottom
24:57from my heart
24:58no
24:59right after
24:59from this interrogation
25:00Brian was arrested.
25:01for kidnapping
25:02Denise
25:02He was detained.
25:03in prison
25:04of Leon
25:05when someone is arrested
25:06at the end
25:06the lawyer
25:07start negotiating
25:08the terms
25:08of an agreement
25:09generally
25:09a case
25:10like this
25:10usually has
25:11a sentence
25:11about
25:115 years
25:12prison
25:13with 5 more years
25:14conditional
25:15but I gave
25:16specific instructions
25:17so that they
25:17they didn't close
25:18an agreement
25:19and they waited
25:20I received
25:21a message
25:21the bad guy
25:22Come see me
25:23Then I went to see him.
25:25and he gave me
25:26all the details
25:27related
25:28in this case
25:28the lawyer
25:29by Brian Chester
25:30he said
25:30why can't we
25:31close a deal
25:32I talked to him.
25:33and said we're not going
25:34Negotiate nothing
25:35the state will ask
25:35life imprisonment
25:36based on the accusations
25:37kidnapping
25:38I believe that your
25:39The customer knows.
25:40something
25:40about what happened
25:41with Mike Williams
25:42never
25:47never
25:49I had any
25:50intention
25:51to hurt
25:51Denise
25:52I would never do that.
25:55even so
26:00I know that mine
26:01attitudes
26:01They harmed her.
26:02and once again
26:03I'm very sorry
26:04in the sentence
26:05by Brian Winchester
26:06Denise
26:07I was very shaken.
26:08and begged
26:09to the judge
26:09arrest him
26:10I'll start
26:10every day
26:11with the memory
26:12him leaving
26:13from the back seat
26:14and that's it
26:15every day
26:16feeling the weapon
26:19against my body
26:20he will finish
26:20what he started
26:21no matter when
26:22I am asking
26:23that you
26:24condemn him
26:25prison
26:25perpetual
26:25for the crimes
26:26that he committed
26:27the choice
26:28between
26:28my life
26:29or his
26:29the judge
26:30was more tolerant
26:31and decided
26:32do not condemn him
26:33perpetual
26:34but he took
26:3520 years
26:35prison
26:36It wasn't fair at all.
26:37I wanted Brian
26:38got stuck
26:39forever
26:39Brian never
26:40said nothing
26:40about what happened
26:41with Mike
26:42and you could hear
26:43the currents
26:44being dragged
26:45while it was
26:46taken to prison
26:46we were
26:48hoping it arrives
26:49the moment of truth
26:50in which Brian
26:51I would say
26:51anyway
26:52everything he knew
26:53if we wanted to
26:54find out what happened
26:55that was the day
26:55We really think
26:57that was the end
26:57of history
26:58and we never
26:59we would know
26:59what happened
27:00with Mike
27:00we never imagined
27:01what happened
27:02right after
27:03around 11 am
27:06We received a message.
27:07about a press conference
27:08press
27:09what was going to happen
27:10at headquarters
27:10from the department
27:11police
27:12from Florida
27:12we ran away
27:13at this very moment
27:17I can tell you
27:18that we know
27:19what happened
27:20with Mike Williams
27:21He was murdered.
27:22after we receive
27:27new information
27:28the forensics unit
27:30forensic
27:30and special agents
27:31Days passed
27:32performing a search
27:33extensive
27:34in a location
27:34not disclosed
27:35this search
27:37led to recovery
27:38of human remains
27:39and the analysts
27:40from the laboratory
27:41criminalistics
27:41of the police
27:42from Florida
27:42confirmed
27:43that the human remains
27:44belong to Mike Williams
27:45they found
27:47Mike's body
27:48and the lawyer
27:49by Brian Winchester
27:50I was there too.
27:51and we think
27:53What is he doing here?
27:54There had to be some connection.
27:56now that we've recovered
27:57Mike Williams' body
27:59And we have other evidence.
28:00materials
28:01our intention
28:02It's about bringing in the responsible parties.
28:03because of his death
28:04to justice
28:05one month before
28:08from the press conference
28:09I found
28:09Brian's lawyer
28:10and said
28:11I believe
28:12that your client
28:13Do you know anything?
28:13about what happened
28:14with Mike Williams
28:15and until he is willing
28:16to manifest itself
28:17and tell what he knows
28:18There will be no agreement.
28:19the state will ask
28:20life imprisonment
28:21based on the accusations
28:22kidnapping
28:23And we discussed that.
28:24for about 4 or 5 months
28:26but the agreement
28:27It seemed far away.
28:27to happen
28:28so we were
28:29preparing ourselves
28:29for the trial
28:30of the accusations
28:31kidnapping
28:31we managed to guarantee
28:33that Brian Winchester
28:34remained detained
28:35we had
28:37an audience
28:37in which the bail
28:38It was denied.
28:39and now we had
28:40a great advantage
28:41in case
28:42suddenly
28:44Brian
28:44informed
28:45his lawyer
28:46maybe
28:46if there was a way out
28:47They contacted us.
28:48and they asked
28:50Immunity
28:51in exchange for information
28:52about what happened
28:52with Mike Williams
28:53And then we closed the deal.
28:55the prosecutor's office closes
28:56many agreements
28:57immunity
28:57This is the best definition.
28:59It's an opportunity.
29:00for one person
29:01count
29:01the whole truth
29:02about a fact
29:03whether this is good
29:04In other words, bad
29:05wants to incriminate her
29:06or not
29:07and none of that
29:07can be used
29:08against her
29:09Brian Winchester
29:11confessed to the murder
29:12He wanted immunity.
29:16so that we can't
29:18accuse him
29:18for homicide
29:19we offer a deal
29:20and we guarantee immunity
29:21for homicide
29:22or for an alleged homicide
29:24we didn't have it yet
29:25material evidence
29:26as part of the agreement
29:27immunity
29:28Brian admitted it.
29:29to have kidnapped Denise
29:30and the only concession
29:31what did we do to him
29:32It was not meant not to be asked.
29:33life imprisonment
29:34when we close
29:35the agreement
29:36and I think it's important
29:37emphasize this
29:38we didn't know
29:39the outcome
29:40or how
29:41had happened
29:42I wondered
29:43how much to relieve
29:45Brian's bar
29:45that would be useful
29:46Would we really go?
29:47to benefit us
29:48of the agreement
29:49that we had offered
29:50we all stayed
29:51under the greatest tension
29:52because nobody knew
29:53what was going to happen next
29:54the mystery would be solved
29:56would he really
29:57confess
29:58And he spoke right away.
30:00I shot him in the face.
30:01from my best friend
30:02I made him stand up.
30:06and I pushed him into the water
30:07He panicked.
30:10I didn't know what to do.
30:11and I ended up shooting
30:13Mike was killed.
30:20with a shotgun
30:21and at the same time
30:22I thought
30:22Oh my God
30:23Could it have been with the weapon?
30:25who was on the boat
30:26she stayed with me
30:27It's my memory.
30:28from Mike
30:28that would be the biggest
30:29of ironies
30:31the fact that they catch
30:33your good
30:34most valuable
30:35that he valued
30:36above all
30:37and use
30:37to kill him
30:38but the cabinet
30:40from the prosecutor's office
30:41He assured me
30:41which was not
30:42the same weapon
30:43what type of weapon
30:45Was it?
30:46It was a carbine.
30:47depression
30:48a black gun
30:49of the cockroaches
30:50Like a shotgun?
30:51and
30:51Where did you shoot him?
30:55in the head
30:55I regret it.
31:01of everything
31:01But as far as you know
31:05Denise
31:05I knew the intention
31:07It was that he didn't
31:07return home
31:08on December 16th
31:102000
31:11How certain are we?
31:12would you leave?
31:13to hunt
31:14but he didn't
31:14I would return
31:15and
31:17and everyone thought
31:22ah
31:23wait for that
31:24It's a conspiracy.
31:25murder
31:26oops
31:27and now?
31:29we started
31:30to have a case
31:31on October 13th
31:33from 1997
31:34and she didn't want to
31:35to get divorced
31:36and then
31:36she simply
31:38he said
31:38only has
31:39a solution
31:40Brian said
31:41that a year before
31:42Denise
31:44And they began.
31:45planning the crime
31:45and they tried to find out
31:46how to do this together
31:47Denise
31:48I wanted him
31:49I took out an insurance policy.
31:50one million dollars
31:51We had a few conversations.
31:53before signing
31:54of the policy
31:55about his death
31:56Brian Chester
32:00he was a broker
32:00insurance
32:01and he had issued
32:03for Mike
32:03a life insurance policy
32:04one million dollars
32:05and with the statement
32:06that Mike
32:07He was dead.
32:08this insurance policy
32:09paid more than a million
32:10for Denise
32:11that never
32:14Does it bother you?
32:16every day, man
32:16and
32:17all day
32:18I know that
32:22It seems ridiculous.
32:23because I betrayed him
32:24with his wife
32:26and also
32:28because of what I did
32:28but at the same time
32:30he really was
32:31my best friend
32:32and he was like a son
32:33for my father
32:34I know that you two
32:36participated
32:36but it would have happened
32:37without her permission
32:38Me, alone?
32:39and
32:39Did you do it all by yourself?
32:40no
32:40I remember we had conversations.
32:43and she said
32:44certain things
32:45as
32:45It would be nice to stay with you.
32:47but with the money
32:48it would be even better
32:49Did she say that?
32:50he said
32:51Brian still had
32:52that fulfill the terms
32:53of the agreement
32:53and show where the body
32:55he was
32:55he and the lawyer
32:56They talked for a while.
32:57and then they spoke
32:58Let's get in the car.
32:59and take him there
33:01he took us
33:02up to Gardner Road
33:03he walked around there
33:04and kept trying
33:05to be located in the area
33:06then said
33:07when I buried him
33:08there was a tree
33:10very specific
33:12and then he said
33:13this tree
33:13It's right there.
33:14and that's where
33:16we found it
33:17He was wearing gloves.
33:22and they preserved
33:23the hands
33:23and his feet
33:24and on the finger of the left hand
33:25under the glove
33:26the alliance was
33:27wedding
33:27for me
33:28This really showed
33:29how much does Mike
33:30He was a faithful man.
33:30Brian and Mike
33:32were very
33:33very good friends indeed
33:34and she succeeded
33:36convince Brian
33:37doing this
33:38and
33:39unbelievable
33:40she inherited almost
33:432 million dollars
33:44but it was him
33:45who shot
33:45against his own friend
33:46he listened to the woman
33:49that he thought
33:50that loved
33:50And for whom did he kill?
33:52requesting his arrest
33:53for the rest of their lives
33:54and still found
33:55that he wouldn't tell everything
33:56do me a favor
33:58I'm sure
34:00that Brian
34:00He stood there.
34:01feeling very angry with her
34:02but at the same time
34:03he knew
34:04that she would
34:04the target of an investigation
34:05And I'm sure
34:06that he must have thought
34:07Yeah, you can't even imagine.
34:08that there is an investigation
34:09and you will also pay
34:10because of his death
34:11just like me
34:12It won't take long.
34:14when Brian
34:19confessed everything
34:20we had to change
34:21focus and think
34:22Okay, now we have
34:23information about Denise
34:24Let's put the case together.
34:26we were worried
34:28with the jury
34:29how would he see
34:30Mr. Winchester
34:32what
34:33He is a bad man.
34:35and that
34:36He shot me in the face.
34:37his best friend
34:38Denise
34:45she was arrested
34:47while I was
34:47at work
34:48at the State University
34:49from Florida
34:50do you mean
34:50something?
34:52very serious accusations
34:53including homicide
34:54in the first degree
34:55we didn't know
34:56the seriousness of the evidence
34:57look
34:59I
34:59I hate to admit it.
35:01but
35:02I was so happy
35:03because she was in terrible shape
35:04I thought
35:05my God
35:06what adult woman
35:07wears green leggings
35:08and flip-flops at work
35:09why
35:10she is the person
35:12more futile
35:12that I already knew
35:13in life
35:13And I thought
35:14This is the first time.
35:16that your image
35:16It appears to half the world.
35:18and
35:19She is like this
35:21I thought
35:22excellent
35:23she deserved it
35:24now we
35:25we had the chance
35:26to listen
35:26in court
35:27the whole story
35:28Mike and I
35:35We completed high school.
35:36together
35:37and
35:38we ended up staying
35:40very intimate
35:41we were
35:41great friends
35:42Denise and Mike
35:43They started dating.
35:44at school
35:45I was a friend
35:46by Denise
35:46fundamentally
35:47and in high school
35:48but I never felt
35:49attraction to her
35:50even us
35:51start talking
35:52of parasexuals
35:53and things
35:54what married couples
35:55They shouldn't comment.
35:56with no one
35:56I think
35:57that was when
35:58we begin
35:58that interests us
35:59by the other
36:00everything happened
36:01very fast
36:02we begin
36:03to see us in hotels
36:04we met
36:05whenever it came up
36:06an opportunity
36:07we wanted
36:08stay together
36:09and
36:11We weren't going to let that happen.
36:13Nobody asked for that.
36:14us
36:15We thought of a way out.
36:16so we can stay together
36:17Denise
36:18I didn't want to get divorced.
36:20She was afraid.
36:22to suffer prejudice
36:23because she is a woman
36:24divorced
36:25but if he
36:26by chance
36:26let's say
36:27died
36:27and she stayed
36:29widow
36:29that would be acceptable
36:31then the murder
36:33It was more tolerable.
36:34that divorce
36:34she could be
36:35the victim
36:36the widow
36:37and become a millionaire
36:38all at the same time
36:39in the previous year
36:40on Mike's death
36:41we discussed
36:43several options
36:44and alternatives
36:46so that it can
36:47staying together
36:48Mike
36:48I worked a lot
36:49at night
36:49in his office
36:51and one of the options
36:53that
36:54we could
36:55to make it seem
36:56that there was a robbery
36:57in the office
36:58and that he
36:58had taken
36:59one shot
36:59This has been ruled out.
37:01then they
37:02they had the idea
37:02drowning
37:03Mike
37:04at Seminole Lake
37:05the plan
37:09for Mike
37:10It was up to me to speak.
37:10for him
37:11that we would
37:12to a place
37:12special secret
37:13to hunt
37:14and he needed
37:15take the overalls
37:16fishing
37:17I had to guarantee
37:19that he would take
37:19the jumpsuit
37:20because if he
37:21fell into the water
37:22with him
37:22he would sink
37:23very fast
37:24and would drown
37:25then
37:26I left
37:28with the boat
37:29I made him stand up.
37:32and when he
37:32He did it.
37:33I pushed him.
37:34in the water
37:34he
37:38He took off his jacket.
37:40and the jumpsuit
37:42also
37:43Brian
37:44I did not know
37:45that Mike
37:45I had trained
37:46to remove
37:47that jumpsuit
37:48fishing
37:48inside a swimming pool
37:49because the guy
37:51who taught him
37:51hunting ducks
37:52had said
37:53that he could
37:53to die
37:54because of him
37:54Mike
37:55He took off his overalls.
37:56and then came the turn
37:57and that was when
37:58Brian
37:58it saw
37:59that had
37:59a big problem
38:00he swam
38:01underneath
38:02from one of the trunks
38:03and clung to it
38:04I didn't know
38:06how to escape
38:06that situation
38:07and I shot him
38:09where he shot him
38:14in the head
38:15what Mike
38:17Williams thought
38:18when the pipe
38:19from that shotgun
38:20It was on his nose.
38:21and he saw
38:23Brian
38:23a Chester
38:24wielding
38:24the weapon
38:26up to that moment
38:27Mike
38:27I thought Brian
38:28He was his best friend.
38:30I believe Brian
38:31felt a little
38:32of remorse
38:33and guilt
38:34Denise
38:35I'm not so sure.
38:36she heard
38:37the second husband
38:38her telling
38:39how he killed
38:39the first husband
38:40burning clothes
38:41but she didn't express it
38:42no emotion
38:44everybody
38:44inside that room
38:46He was horrified.
38:47therefore
38:48and the absolute
38:49cruelty
38:50of this crime
38:51one less person
38:53and that person
38:55I was here
38:56without demonstrating
38:57no emotion
38:58She didn't blink.
39:01did not spill
39:02no tears
39:03we think
39:04that if none
39:04of the two of them spoke
39:05no one ever
39:06I would discover
39:06what had happened
39:08but I think
39:08that we were
39:09very arrogant
39:10because I believe
39:11in impunity
39:12Brian
39:12was a witness
39:13absolutely
39:14convincing
39:14there was
39:15the slightest doubt
39:16that he
39:16I was saying
39:17the truth
39:18like someone
39:18he said
39:18He was the killer.
39:19colder but more believable
39:21that they have already seen
39:22I was impressed.
39:23with the behavior
39:24from Brian
39:24I think he stayed
39:25wondering
39:26How did I get here?
39:27Stop here
39:28handcuffed
39:28in a court
39:29speaking of the murder
39:31from my best friend
39:32The defendant is guilty.
39:34conspiracy
39:36to commit homicide
39:37in the first degree
39:38justice
39:40That's what I wanted.
39:41for Mike
39:41and if Denise
39:43had to go
39:44to prison
39:45for the rest of their lives
39:46and could not
39:47release on parole
39:48That's justice.
39:50and that was all
39:52what I wanted
39:53And that's why.
39:54that I am fighting
39:5517 years ago
39:57He didn't deserve this.
39:59He was a good person.
40:01Denise
40:03she was convicted
40:04by conspiracy
40:04to commit homicide
40:06who has a feather
40:06maximum of 30 years
40:07and for homicide
40:08that leads to imprisonment
40:09perpetual
40:10without conditional right
40:11in the state of Florida
40:12what if she stays
40:13trapped forever
40:14I can't say.
40:16that makes me happy
40:17why
40:17it is not me
40:19happy
40:20I don't have
40:22my boy
40:22I don't have
40:24his daughter
40:24and I'll never have
40:26She looked at me.
40:28and said
40:28we succeeded
40:29to do justice
40:29for Mike
40:30And that's a memory.
40:31that I will take
40:31always
40:32together with me
40:33that's why
40:33that we do this work
40:35and it took 18 years
40:36to clarify everything
40:38Cheryl
40:38I wouldn't stop
40:39until the truth is discovered.
40:41when we investigate cases
40:44we have enough time
40:45and sufficient pressure
40:46maybe someone will speak
40:47And that's what happened.
40:49in that case
40:49I don't think any of that.
40:51it would have happened
40:51without Mrs. Cheryl
40:52and their efforts
40:53tireless
40:54to find her son
40:55the subject came up
40:56in the media
40:57on the internet
40:58or in the news
40:59Cheryl
41:01never
41:03gave up
41:04she
41:05He continued to insist.
41:07always
41:08She was right.
41:08all the time
41:09the relentless pressure
41:11and advertising
41:12and the highlight
41:13that Mrs. Cheryl
41:14I kept trying
41:15give to this case
41:16as well as the fact
41:18from the prosecutor's office
41:19to recognize
41:20that the only hope
41:21that we had
41:22was to make one of them
41:23confess
41:24the deal with Brian
41:28John Filks
41:29can confirm
41:30It must have been
41:30the hardest decision
41:32that he has already taken
41:32in his career
41:33and he bet
41:34all the cards
41:35to make this happen
41:36when a mother
41:37loses a son
41:38I don't think so.
41:39that it is possible to overcome
41:41why
41:41this son
41:43lives in your heart
41:44this son
41:45lives in your memory
41:47but when someone
41:48loses a son
41:49how did I lose
41:50for no reason
41:52This is awful.
41:57Mike
42:01respected the votes
42:02matrimonial
42:03He took them seriously.
42:04he died using
42:05the alliance
42:05the only vote
42:07that Denise did
42:08It was until death
42:09separate us
42:09Denise Williams
42:13He knew what he wanted.
42:14and nobody
42:15would prevent her
42:16to achieve
42:16during that week
42:20She was very cold.
42:22Denise insisted.
42:24taking pictures
42:25at Christmas
42:26to show
42:27the happy family
42:28next to the tree
42:29and Ainsley
42:30I was crying
42:32but at the time
42:33Mike
42:33sat on his lap
42:34of Santa Claus
42:35and put Ainsley
42:36in his lap
42:36so that they can
42:37take a picture
42:38with Santa Claus
42:39about that
42:40Brian Winchester
42:41and Denise Williams
42:42They were plotting.
42:43his death
42:43She knew that Mike
42:45I wouldn't go back home.
42:47after that night
42:48Wow, so cold!
42:50solid marriage
42:51It is based on trust.
42:52and love
42:53this was based on
42:54in a murder
42:55Mike's gravestone
43:01It's quite peculiar.
43:02because she quotes
43:03the date he died
43:04but it doesn't say that he died
43:05says he was murdered
43:07Cheryl thought
43:08that murder be put
43:09on the tombstone
43:10would spark an interest
43:11that would preserve the memory
43:12Mike's life
43:13this specific weapon
43:16it was very valuable
43:17for Mike Williams
43:18I wouldn't sell it.
43:19not for all the money
43:20of the world
43:21She has nothing to do with it.
43:22with hunting
43:23She has much more to do with it.
43:25with the relationship
43:26that I had
43:27with Mike Williams
43:28It is invaluable.
43:30for me
43:31Brazilian version
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