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Seth and Sean assess which player is most likely to go full game wrecker in this SB on Sunday and what Dalton Schultz had to say on the Drive about the team's belief in CJ Stroud.
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00:00As far as this game, yeah, this game, who's most likely to wreck the game?
00:07You can go any number of ways with that, I suppose.
00:09I think with the Patriots, really, they're getting away with the entire left side of their offensive line being a liability.
00:18And it didn't jump, you know, in that Broncos game, the field conditions were so bad
00:25that that's ultimately what hemmed up the pass protection when you also weren't even really trying to pass the ball or anything.
00:32It was a matter of just trying to maintain this lead.
00:35And because you weren't going to pass the ball anyway in those conditions,
00:38and the Rams, or excuse me, the Patriots or Broncos defensive ends couldn't get really good footing to mount a pass rush.
00:50It didn't end up being as big an issue.
00:51But we saw in the Texans game, I mean, Will Campbell, their left offensive tackle, might have single-handedly lost the game for him.
00:58Will Anderson had three sacks in that game.
00:59He was getting destroyed.
01:01Yeah.
01:01So the Seahawks defensive line is interesting because they don't have guys that necessarily win really fast
01:07the way the Texans have a few guys that win fast and get on the quarterback immediately.
01:11But they're like an amoeba.
01:13They just kind of just squeeze in.
01:16They're like that trash compactor in Star Wars.
01:19Episode 4, A New Hope.
01:20They just kind of beat the crap out of your guys at a slow and steady pace until the quarterback is enveloped.
01:28So getting rid of the ball quickly is paramount for the Patriots.
01:33But that left side of the offensive line, it's an extreme liability at times.
01:37They do some good things.
01:38You can find some highlight reels of Will Campbell at the left offensive tackle.
01:42But there's many times where he's a turnstile.
01:45Yeah.
01:46So Will Campbell could wreck this game in a bad way for the Patriots.
01:49Yeah.
01:49Yeah.
01:49Oh, you were seeing.
01:50Okay.
01:51This is a window into how you and I view the world.
01:53Yeah.
01:54When you said wreck this game, I was thinking, okay, who's going to wreck his own team by bad performances?
01:59You were thinking about, okay, who's going to go off?
02:01Yeah.
02:01It could be either.
02:02But, yes, that's what I, because my answer would have been Jackson Smith and Jigba.
02:05Oh.
02:05And it's not even close for me.
02:07He's so much fun to watch.
02:09I'm glad he's in the NFC.
02:10I am, too.
02:11Once every four of you.
02:12We don't have to see him again for another three years.
02:14And this is where, look, I'm letting my personal bias seep into it.
02:16I'm thinking about Texans versus these two opponents.
02:19Yeah.
02:19And I just, when the Texans played the Seahawks, they got physically beat.
02:26You watch that game.
02:27And the defense started off slow, but they hemmed it up.
02:29The Texans defense played much better in that game than maybe the box score would suggest.
02:33But they had those two couple long drives in that Jackson Smith and Jigba touchdown where, hey, we've got a plan for him.
02:40But this dude, when I'm trying to figure out which way he's going to break and then catch up to him, you can't give him that little bit of slack.
02:48You know, Derek Stingley can give receivers a little bit of slack and catch up.
02:51You don't do it versus Jackson Smith and Jigba.
02:53He's moving at 4-2 speed all the time, all over the field, like in and out of breaks and everything.
03:00And he's so strong.
03:02Right.
03:02He's big.
03:03Yeah.
03:04That one-handed catch he had in the NFC title game.
03:07The NFL's got to do something about him.
03:08They've got to legislate him out of the league somehow.
03:10Yeah, you think?
03:11Yeah.
03:11Okay.
03:12Got to find a way.
03:13Yeah.
03:13But, yeah, he could be definitely a game-breaker.
03:15Yeah, that's my answer for it.
03:17The other side of it, too, is that, you know, the Patriots defense, for the sum total of the year, they weren't a really good defense.
03:25But they started playing really well down the stretch and on into the playoffs.
03:28They've had weather on their side in the playoffs, obviously.
03:31But they've also blitzed like crazy.
03:34They do a lot of all-out cover zero blitzes.
03:37I say a lot, but, like, much higher.
03:38They've been doing it at a much higher rate than most of the league operates.
03:41That's boom or bust.
03:44And that's dicey if the weather conditions are pristine and you're facing a quarterback that's got a guy like Jackson Smith and Jigba.
03:52The thing about the C.J. Stroud's touchdown to Christian Kirk in the game, that was an all-out blitz.
03:58No safety help.
03:59C.J. had β C.J. didn't β I mean, it wasn't the pass protection's fault.
04:04It's just that the Patriots blitzed eight guys.
04:07Yeah.
04:07They had eight guys rushing.
04:10And C.J. got rid of it with a perfect pass.
04:12And the Seahawks will be very capable of doing that.
04:15So I'm curious to see just how aggressive the Patriots are in this game.
04:20No doubt.
04:21No doubt.
04:22Dalton Schultz was on the afternoon show yesterday.
04:25He was making his way around Radio Row.
04:27Here was Dalton Schultz.
04:30He was asked about the fans being out on C.J. Stroud.
04:34We know Dalton Schultz is one of the biggest C.J. Stroud supporters that there is out there.
04:39The fans are out on C.J. Stroud.
04:41Why are you in on C.J. Stroud?
04:42A lot of the fan base seems to be β the belief has been shaken.
04:46Like, first year, what you all did, like, it was β like, we finally got a guy that can compete with anybody.
04:52What we're getting from every day from the fans are β like, I don't know if I trust him.
04:56I don't know if β I think it's good to hear from somebody who is inside that works with him why you guys believe so much.
05:02We keep hearing it, but why?
05:03What is it specifically about C.J.?
05:05I just β going back to what you're saying, though, is like, it's the same β it's just noise, dude.
05:10Like, everybody was also calling for everybody's jobs.
05:13Everybody be fired when you're 0-3.
05:15Like, it's the same as our job as players and everybody else.
05:19And I know Nick is, like, the best one for this.
05:22Like, Nick said it all the time everywhere.
05:25But, like, that's not our focus.
05:26Like, we don't β that's not our job.
05:29Like, our job is to go out there and, like, perform, make sure we're good.
05:32So, like, again, like, it's noise, dude.
05:35Like, whether you believe in him or not, does that affect whether he's going to be the same player, a better player?
05:42Like, that has no effect on him.
05:45You know what I mean?
05:45Like, none of that β none of that affects the process of, like, whether he's going to β he's truly going to grow or not.
05:50And to me, it doesn't mean anything, man.
05:54Yeah.
05:54Yeah, and I think the very key part of that was the very end.
05:58To me, it doesn't matter.
06:00Yeah.
06:01But does it matter to CJ?
06:02Yeah.
06:02Is he hearing all that out there?
06:04Yeah, the β it was a fun little thing this year where it just seemed like the Texans were very often talking about how they didn't care about all the comments and the outside noise,
06:14yet seemed to be aware of the comments and the outside noise.
06:17It's impossible, plus also, in fairness to the Texans players and coaches, they're being asked questions about that.
06:24Like, I don't want to succumb to being that person.
06:27It's like, I can't β this guy talked about this topic at the press conference.
06:30Yeah, because he was asked about that topic.
06:32So, I mean, I don't β I think CJ is genuinely, I think, probably improved on caring about what the outside opinions are.
06:44But it gets that much tougher.
06:46It's a lot easier when, say, you're playing well, but you're getting a lot of criticism.
06:51It's β early in your career, there might be some insecurity about that.
06:55Like, man, it just doesn't seem like guys are β I'm going to get the credit.
06:58But you get to a point where you realize, okay, I'm playing well, the coaches think I'm playing well,
07:03the players think I'm playing well, I don't worry about the haters,
07:06I don't worry about what Skip Bayless says or whatever.
07:09It's a lot harder when you know that you're not playing well and you're not playing up to your standard,
07:14and then you hear those voices on the outside.
07:16Yeah.
07:17And even if you're consciously trying to ignore it, it can be β it can be suffocating if you allow any of it in at all.
07:24Yeah, it's a big offseason, but that's tough for him, man.
07:26Speaking of which, because I know everybody listening right now had steadfast faith in the Texans throughout the year.
07:32I'm going to do a quiz on your β I'm going to do what you usually do to me.
07:36Okay.
07:36You did a pender poll on October 22nd.
07:39That would have been β
07:41At the time, the Texans were 2-4.
07:44So it was after the Seattle game.
07:45Yeah.
07:46After the Seattle game, after they got thumped.
07:48They got β and people go, it was 27-19.
07:52They scored a garbage touchdown at the end.
07:54They scored three touchdowns in that game, a garbage touchdown at the end,
07:56and Will Anderson Jr. had a strip sack fumble in the end zone.
07:59Right.
08:00That game was not close.
08:02That was β that was very much just an offensive non-performance.
08:06Correct.
08:06It was an offensive, offensive performance.
08:07So what did I put out there?
08:09So you said how many wins did the Texans, currently 2-4, finish with this season?
08:14What are my choices?
08:15The choices were 10-plus wins, 8-9 wins, 6-7 wins, or 5 or fewer wins.
08:21If I recall, 6-7 wins was the winner of that poll.
08:26Yes.
08:27Okay.
08:2755.5%.
08:28Wow.
08:29So a real majority.
08:30Yeah.
08:30Okay.
08:3122.4% of the somewhat optimistic people said 8-9 wins.
08:37Yeah.
08:37Which I feel like that's genuinely optimistic if you're 2-4 and you say they can win 9 games at that point.
08:4277% of the vote was those two choices.
08:45Yes.
08:47Continue.
08:48What finished third?
08:49I'm trying to figure out how much math people are doing in their heads.
08:52I don't want to give away the β okay.
08:54So 10-plus wins.
08:55Let's just say this.
08:56What percentage of people who follow you, most of whom are Texans fans, what percentage of Texans fans slash Sean T. Pendergast followers thought that the Texans could win 10-plus wins?
09:07There's 23% left to dole out.
09:09Yeah, I shouldn't have given you the other stuff.
09:10Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:11I would have loved to have guessed that off the top.
09:13But I'll say 11%.
09:15Two.
09:16Two-plus wins?
09:17Yeah.
09:17So there were more people thinking that they were going to tank the season than they were going to make the play?
09:2220.1%.
09:23Wow.
09:24So 2% of people felt like the Texans at that point had a chance to win 10 or more games.
09:29Okay.
09:29I mean, and it is.
09:30If you think about the stretch that they had to have and the number of β it's hard to win that many games in a row.
09:35So it's β for me, it β
09:38And they finished at 12.
09:39For me, it kind of resets in a positive way.
09:43All right, I do have to acknowledge that, man, they were in a deep hole.
09:46At 0-3, at 2-4.
09:48Yeah.
09:48Especially the manner in which they lost that Seahawks game.
09:51To come back and win 12 games, that's a pretty impressive accomplishment.
09:56That's noteworthy.
09:57Yep.
09:58Yep.
09:58I'd still prefer β if they had won 10 games but won a divisional playoff game, I would take that very much instead.
10:04They β oh, and got to the ASU title game.
10:08Winning a divisional β winning a divisional playoff game right now carries way more weight than any possible thing that they could do.
10:14You could sneak in at 8-9, and if you get to a divisional playoff game and win it, people will be ecstatic about that.
10:19I feel like a Boy Scout who's stuck on, I don't know, tying knots or something, and I just can't do it.
10:24You know?
10:25I've done every other thing.
10:26Yeah.
10:27I won that derby that they do.
10:31The Pinewood Derby.
10:32The Pinewood Derby.
10:33Yeah, the Pinewood Derby.
10:33I'm a seven-time Pinewood Derby champ.
10:35Yeah, that's β
10:36But I can't tie a knot.
10:37Right, right, right.
10:38You can't start a β why is Seth over there scratching two sticks together over there next to a campfire for the third straight year?
10:44That's my divisional title.
10:45That's it, man.
10:46Were you a Boy Scout?
10:46I was a Cub Scout.
10:50I was a Weebelo.
10:51Oh, yeah, that's right.
10:51Which was kind of like the in-between.
10:53I forgot about the Weeblos.
10:54I was a Boy Scout for one year, and then I'm like, ah, this is for the birds.
10:57Camping and things like that.
10:58Well, I remember I joined the Scouts.
11:00We never went camping or anything.
11:02We did.
11:03This is trash.
11:03We did, and there was one β we went like two or three times a year.
11:08It might not have been Cub Scouts.
11:09It might have been Weebelos.
11:10Weebelos is when you got to like sixth or seventh grade.
11:12And they had one camp out called the Klondike, which was in February in the north.
11:19Yeah.
11:19You know how I'm built.
11:21I'm not built for camping in the cold.
11:23That's something you shouldn't jump into.
11:25I'm barely built for glamping in the warmth.
11:26You know, like an RV for you would be β
11:31Yeah, man.
11:31Would be roughing it.
11:33Yeah.
11:33Yeah.
11:33Yeah.
11:34That's it.
11:35I feel like close these walls are to each other.
11:37Jumping in on winter camping is your first experience seems like β
11:40I can't remember if it was my first.
11:41I just remember it was miserable.
11:43Yeah.
11:43And my mom sent me out there.
11:45She goes, here's a space blanket.
11:46This will keep you warm, like one of those like silver blankets.
11:49Yeah.
11:49It reflects your body heat.
11:51I'm like, this ain't working.
11:52I'm going to have to ask my mom about this because I thought that we didn't have any camping trips.
11:55But I wonder if my mom, you know, she's head on a swivel all the time.
11:58Yeah.
11:58Maybe she didn't quite maybe feel like sending me off on a camping trip with whoever was the leader.
12:03That could be.
12:04Yeah.
12:04Find out.
12:05That was β Sean and I were growing up in an age where all of a sudden, thanks to shows on television,
12:11parents understood that like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
12:14Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:14There's some creepy people out there.
12:16Different strokes, bicycles.
12:17Yeah, yeah.
12:18Yeah.
12:20Here's another one from Dalton Schultz.
12:22We'll get to our Mad Dog Russo interview here in just a few minutes.
12:25This is the one that I think is running in the promo right now and the one that when we saw Clint and Ron last night out to dinner,
12:31they're like, man, Dalton Schultz was in a bad place.
12:33It felt like β
12:34It felt like he was really working through something emotionally.
12:36Yeah.
12:37That he was even PTSD about the fact that they lost that playoff game.
12:41Yep.
12:41Here it is.
12:42He said walking around Radio Row is tough.
12:44To sit here right now and think, hey, man, we had a legit shot.
12:47We should be one of the teams on that banner up there.
12:49I mean, that's a step in the right direction for the team, though.
12:52I mean, you guys didn't β that wasn't necessarily a reality a year ago, right?
12:56I mean, that's a step.
12:58I'll be honest.
12:58Like, walking around here is tough.
13:00Yeah.
13:00Like, I love being β like, we came because I love being in the Bay.
13:03But, like, being reminded that, like, we fell short, especially this year, I think because everybody realized what we had
13:11and how good of a team we had and the opportunity that we had to come up short and not have that,
13:18like, that's why I think it feels extra.
13:20Yeah.
13:21Like, dude, it's a sucker punch.
13:22Yeah.
13:22Like, truly.
13:23Like, I still haven't β I still haven't gotten over it.
13:26Yeah.
13:27That's what people want to hear out of their athletes, man.
13:28Well, I don't β that doesn't sound phony to me, either.
13:30No, no, no, no.
13:31No, and I β like, we were joking earlier about how petty I get by this point in the week.
13:35Yeah.
13:35In the week because I'm sick and tired of all these happy people.
13:39Right, right, right.
13:40Who've had good things happen to their football team.
13:42Yes.
13:42They're about to play in the β I see Patriots fans on the street.
13:45Oh, yeah.
13:45I get so angry.
13:47I just β I see them and I just want to punch all of them.
13:49Yeah.
13:50Because they're happy.
13:52That's right.
13:53Again.
13:53But with Schultz, it's β
13:56He feels that, too, yeah.
13:57Not the same level of pettiness.
13:59I would β if I could talk to Schultz, my advice to him would be to, yeah, turn that
14:02into petty rage.
14:04Yeah.
14:04Right now you're β right now you're just feeling depressed.
14:07Yeah.
14:07And it's tough because you're out of it.
14:09You need to really start having a healthy hatred for all of those other people.
14:12You're like a Sith Lord.
14:14Yeah.
14:14You're like, let the hate flow through you.
14:18Dalton.
14:19Everybody's a little too well-adjusted these days.
14:21Yeah, yeah, man.
14:22It's okay to be old-school psycho about this.
14:25Oh, my God.
14:25Go full Ty Cobb.
14:26That's great.
14:27Yeah, just be β just be β you know, without the potentially racist stuff.
14:31Right, right.
14:31But, yeah.
14:32Not full Ty Cobb.
14:33A modern Ty Cobb.
14:34Partial Ty Cobb.
14:35Yeah.
14:35Yeah, the stuff that works in 2026.
14:39Be like an old-school player, but who's also cool with integrating baseball.
14:42If you're going to do β read up on Ty Cobb before you go full Ty Cobb.
14:45That's all I'll say.
14:46That's all I'll say.
14:47That's what I want to β we can put it on your Hall of Fame plaque.
14:49Yeah.
14:50He was like Ty Cobb, but pro-integration.
14:57That's what β
14:57Yeah.
14:58That's what I feel like you and I don't get enough credit for.
15:01Right.
15:01And so we're very much in favor of integration.
15:03Yeah, totally.
15:03You know?
15:04I was like, I'm willing to stand up and say it.
15:06Yeah.
15:06Yeah, yeah.
15:08That was like, man β what's his name?
15:10Dana White.
15:11When he had to get up and say β and he was like, hey, look, everybody β
15:15because one of his fighters had said something about Hitler.
15:17And Dana White got up and said, like, hey, Hitler was a really bad guy.
15:21And people were like, yes.
15:23Yes.
15:23Finally.
15:24He is brave enough to say it.
15:26Finally somebody said it.
15:27Yes.
15:28But it is kind of an indication of just how dicey β like, yeah.
15:32Yeah.
15:32We're at a point where all of a sudden, yeah, for 50 years, yeah, duh, thanks.
15:39Thanks for telling me it was bad.
15:40We need β
15:41At that point, we're acknowledging when somebody says it in front of a microphone.
15:43No, we need to β
15:44Like it's a heroic β yeah.
15:46You and I need to do more of that.
15:48We need to declare very obvious things about very bad people so people will hail us as cutting through.
15:56I was one of the first people to stand up and say, you know what, this cancer thing?
16:02Yeah.
16:03Not good.
16:03No.
16:04I don't think it's good.
16:06No.
16:06And I think we should get rid of it.
16:07Yeah.
16:07And so for years, people have been ignoring that.
16:10Yeah.
16:10And then along comes Seth, and he's like, cancer, bad.
16:13Yeah.
16:13You're a hero, man.
16:14That's right.
16:14A lot of times people will be like, mass starvation every now and then, sure.
16:17Yeah.
16:17And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
16:19Yeah.
16:19No, we don't want people starving.
16:21You were the one saying at the beginning of the pandemic before anybody else that the pandemic is bad.
16:26Well, I don't β yeah.
16:27So let's β yeah, let's go into that.
16:33I didn't mean to make it.
16:35I was just trying to play along.
16:36Let's go into all of that.
16:38We're playing dueling pianos.
16:40I brought up β
16:40I think everybody can agree that the pandemic was bad from different angles.
16:44Yeah.
16:44People are going to have at least alliance on that.
16:46It was just bad.
16:47That's all.
16:47Yeah.
16:48Yeah, it was just bad.
16:48Yeah.
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