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Watch our Kitchen Talk discussion on Donald Trump, sexual assault and what does (or does not) constitute consent featuring news and culture editor Christina Coleman, tastemaker Jamal Jimoh, stylist Chris Collie, and sociologist Norell Giacana.
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00:00Women across the country said that Donald Trump's comments about groping women caused
00:06them to discuss their similar experiences of harassment with their husbands and boyfriends.
00:11How do we have these conversations so that we can heal and improve relationships between
00:15men and women?
00:16Jamal, I will start with you.
00:17I think you just have to be open and honest.
00:20The conversation is going to be an uncomfortable one.
00:22There's no way that it goes completely left unless the person that you're speaking to
00:25feels guilty of doing such things.
00:27Sure.
00:27So, I mean, you just be open about it.
00:30Be honest about it.
00:30Be very straightforward about what makes you uncomfortable, what makes you comfortable.
00:34And if you don't get a yes, assume it's a no.
00:36That's kind of a very good rule of thumb, just in general.
00:39Like, always assume that it is a no unless you get an explicit yes.
00:42I'm going to have them circle yes, circle no.
00:44Christina?
00:45Having those conversations about consent and understanding what that means.
00:49So, sitting down with your family, taking that shame away because there's so much shame
00:52wrapped up in sex alone that I don't know if we could have healthy conversations about
00:57consensual sex.
00:58That's a very good point.
01:00And also tackling misogyny as it stands in society today because that's going to take
01:06away that victim blaming that will allow women to come forth or go to the police and not
01:10feel, like, shamed or not feel attacked for telling someone, hey, I've been assaulted.
01:15And men holding men accountable.
01:17It's like that.
01:18Chris?
01:19Just to piggyback on what Christina said, I think the accountability factor is huge.
01:23We have to start holding each other accountable.
01:25And we have to get back to the sense of a village raising one.
01:28Because our village, our whole village issue is broken right now.
01:34Families are broken.
01:35And it's a showing effect in the generations coming forth.
01:38And all of these violent acts now, I think, are a reflection of it.
01:42So, we need to get back to more people trying to help raise the children that these parents
01:47are not taking accountability for.
01:49And last but certainly not least, Narelle.
01:52I think it's really in unison with what everyone is saying.
01:56I think it's an accountability issue.
01:57And I do think that celebrities in particular and male celebrities like Annette Parker, this
02:04was an opportunity to really say, hey, I don't know what consent is.
02:08I'd like to put money towards having men have these conversations amongst themselves, taking
02:15accountability to teach young men about consent, and really just making it a community effort
02:21to have these conversations and to be open and honest and to say, like, it's okay to not
02:24know.
02:25You know?
02:26It's better to not know and ask than to go forward in ignorance, you know?
02:30And so, I think it really, we should really call, and I don't want to say all celebrities,
02:36but men who are influential, and it doesn't necessarily have to be celebrity in terms of
02:41sports and entertainment, but also our political leaders.
02:44I mean, it would be nice to have someone who is respected in the community to come in and
02:48take it upon themselves to talk to young men and young women about these situations and
02:52be very clear about what it is that is yes and what is no and how you want to be treated
02:57and how you should treat one another.
02:58Thank you so much for joining us.
03:00Please continue to dig in.
03:01Please continue to drink up.
03:02This has been a heavy conversation.
03:05I know each and every one of you out there in Facebook land, you have lots of comments
03:08that you're going to give us, so keep them coming.
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