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Watch our round table Kitchen Talk discussion on drunk sex and navigating the determinants of consent featuring news and culture editor Christina Coleman, tastemaker Jamal Jimoh, stylist Chris Collie, and sociologist Norell Giancana. And make sure yo
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00:01And what role do we feel alcohol plays in this situation?
00:03Sometimes you hear, oh, she was at a party, she had two or three drinks.
00:07Why did she have two or three drinks? Why didn't she leave before?
00:10Oh, because she had alcohol in her system. It's her fault.
00:13What are your thoughts, Mom?
00:15I think it's a scapegoat. I don't think alcohol is ever a reason to, like,
00:19her being intoxicated is a reason for her to go home and probably not a reason to engage with her.
00:24And if you're at a place or at any place where you can defend the action
00:28or make an advance based on how she's feeling or how she may appear,
00:33then it's clear that you're in a predatory space.
00:36And you don't need to, like, that's not engagement that needs to happen.
00:39Especially if she doesn't say yes while, and I'm not forgiving it if she does say yes,
00:43because she might not know what's going on. Right.
00:46She might say yes and she might change her mind.
00:48Exactly. And you gotta be able to bail out on that.
00:50And that's it. That's where you leave it be. The moment that that yes isn't,
00:53that's when things cease to exist. And you just leave it be.
00:57You call her an Uber or you just walk away so that you don't put yourself in the way of being accused
01:03or being mentioned in that conversation.
01:05I just, I just, I just have a problem.
01:08And I guess the right word is believing.
01:11People, well, men don't know what no is in every shape or form.
01:16I just, because I wasn't raised in that manner.
01:19Like, all the examples that Christina just gave are clear no's to me.
01:23Right. There is nothing, even when, when there's alcohol in play,
01:29my guard is even more up.
01:31Mm-hmm. Because I already feel like I'm taking advantage.
01:35I should also feel like I'm pairing someone with my own apps and, just try it outside.
01:41So stand it over, when you want to enjoy myself.
01:44There will be lots of people that are fighting.
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