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00:00... Tucker are suing 15-year-old Erica Brown and her mother, 39-year-old Kimberly Osley.
00:06Taryn says she was severely injured during a fistfight with Erica.
00:12Order. All rise.
00:19The Honest is case number 487 on the calendar, no matter of Tucker Parman v. Osley Brown.
00:24Police have been sworn in, Judge. You may be seated. Folks, have seats.
00:27Please. Ms. Tucker? Yes.
00:30Your relationship to Taryn? And her mother.
00:33This is your daughter? Yes, ma'am.
00:35Neither of you were present on November 19th of 2001 when this fight took place. Is that right?
00:43Yes.
00:43You are merely here as nominal parties.
00:47You are suing because your daughter had certain medical bills and your daughter is a minor.
00:52So you're here with her. So I'm going to have the two moms sit down.
00:57Taryn, it is your claim that Erica assaulted you on the 19th of November.
01:03That she assaulted you and caused you some very serious injury.
01:06You had some 50 stitches as a result of this incident.
01:10And the defendant says that there was a fight, but she struck back in self-defense. Correct?
01:16So Taryn, why don't you tell me what started this argument?
01:22Well, I never had an argument with her, actually. It was nothing to do with me and her. I had went to the park.
01:28You went to the park?
01:29Yeah.
01:30Who did you go to the park with?
01:31I went to the park with Stephen, who was my boyfriend at the time.
01:34And what did you go to the park for?
01:36Well, a week prior to this happening, he had broken up with me to go out with Ashley, her witness.
01:44And then he came to your house?
01:45And he said that I want to be back with you. I don't want to go out with her anymore.
01:48Let's go to the park. I know they're up there.
01:51And we'll tell her that me and her aren't going to be together anymore, that me and you are going to be together.
01:55Why was that necessary, Taryn? Why was it necessary for you to accompany him?
02:02It wasn't, but...
02:03It sure wasn't. That was really stupid.
02:06If he wants to have a conversation with his couple of weeks girlfriend, let him take care of that by himself.
02:12All right, so you get to the park. And what happened when you get to the park with the genius over here?
02:17Well, I go to get out of the car and Ashley runs over to the side of the car.
02:21I really didn't have a chance to have words with her because she came over, started saying cuss words,
02:28you want to fight me, flicked a cigarette on my face and came at me, so I came back at her.
02:32What do you mean you came back at her?
02:33She came at me like to hit me, so I came back at her.
02:36Just a minute. How could you come back at her if you were in the car?
02:39No, this is right after I stepped out of the car. She ran over to the car.
02:42She ran over to the car when you first arrived.
02:45Well, I stepped out of the car and then here she comes around the corner.
02:48No, you didn't tell me that. Now you're getting back.
02:50So you got out of the car. Yes.
02:53And the boyfriend got out of the car. Yes.
02:55And Ashley comes running up to you, cursing you.
03:00Yeah.
03:00Because now you're with her boyfriend, right?
03:04You think.
03:05And then you've had a fight with her.
03:08Yes.
03:08Just the two girls.
03:10Me and Ashley, yes.
03:11And what is Prince Charming doing while you're fighting with Ashley?
03:15Standing with his brother and other people that had came to the park.
03:19Like, they were standing there watching, I guess.
03:22Hmm.
03:25Okay.
03:26So did you finish fighting with Ashley?
03:28Yeah.
03:29Her brother came up and kind of broke it up.
03:32We, she walked over to her friends and I walked over with Stephen beside his car.
03:36And then what happened?
03:37Then Stephen's brother, who was there, started, they all started, were trying to get Erica to hit me.
03:43They were like, oh, fight her, fight her.
03:44She just beat up her friend.
03:45Just a second.
03:46His group.
03:47Yes.
03:48Was instigating Erica.
03:50Yes.
03:51To fight you.
03:52Mm-hmm.
03:52And tell me again what they were saying.
03:55They were just telling her, they were like, oh, she got in a fight with your friend.
03:57How are you going to let her do that to your friend?
03:59And so they wanted, your boyfriend, Prince Charming over here, according to you, wanted Erica to beat you up.
04:08Yes.
04:09And that's after he told you to come to the park with him to tell Ashley that he didn't want to see her anymore.
04:15Yes.
04:16Hmm.
04:18You following this?
04:19Oh, very closely.
04:21Very closely.
04:21All right, so now they're instigating Erica to fight you.
04:26Yeah.
04:27What happened next?
04:28Okay, well, I was standing near Stephen's car, and they were all in a group near us.
04:33I wanted to leave.
04:35I mean, I said to Stephen, I looked over, and I'm like, let's leave.
04:38When I went to turn back around, she hit me in the side of the face, got me on the ground, got on my back, took my head, and slammed it into the concrete.
04:46That's a lie.
04:46Oh, shh, just a second.
04:48Wait one second, you're going to have a turn.
04:49Okay.
04:50And is that when you were injured?
04:52Yes.
04:53And where were you injured?
04:54In my, all around my eye, and I have pictures.
04:57I'd like to see them.
05:09Hmm, hmm, hmm.
05:15And these injuries occurred as a result of your face being slammed into the concrete?
05:19Yes.
05:24What are these marks on your back?
05:27Well, when she got, she got me, like, onto the ground, I guess she dug her nails into my back.
05:34What finally stopped the fight?
05:37After she did that, I guess she looked, realized what she had done, because, I mean, immediately blood started gushing out.
05:43They looked so well done, and everyone ran and got into cars to leave.
05:47What about Prince Charming?
05:48He came over to me and got me, and we got in his car, and we left.
05:52Mm-hmm.
05:52Now let me hear your version of the events.
05:55Well, her cousin, Stephanie, was at school one day, and she came up to me before all this stuff had happened and said that she went up to the park and Ashley ran from her.
06:05This is how it all started, okay?
06:07This has to do with later on in the story.
06:09I don't have a cousin named Stephanie.
06:11Don't interrupt her.
06:12Well, they said they were cousins, and she said that she ran from her.
06:18So I was like, that's not true.
06:19My friend wouldn't run from her, you know?
06:21I was like, that's lying.
06:23I was like, she's lying, you know?
06:24She got suspended from school for coming at me.
06:27Who did?
06:28Her cousin, Stephanie.
06:29Well, they said they were cousins.
06:30Okay.
06:31So she got suspended from school?
06:33Yeah.
06:33And this was before this happened?
06:35Yeah.
06:36Okay.
06:36Now what happened on the 19th?
06:38Stephen and Ashley were at the park.
06:41They got into a fight.
06:42He said, oh, well, I'm going to get Taryn because Ashley broke up with him.
06:45So he was at the park first?
06:47Yeah.
06:47Before he went to pick up Taryn?
06:49Yeah, we were all at the park without her there.
06:52And they had an argument.
06:54These two people had an argument.
06:56And she broke up with him.
06:58So he was like, oh, well, I'm going to get Taryn, you know?
06:59She's going to whoop your butt when I get back.
07:03So she picks Taryn up.
07:05Taryn gets out of the car.
07:05Oh, so you're the little twit that Stephen's going out with?
07:09And she's like, yeah, you know, you know what?
07:12And Taryn was like, oh, well, you know, calling her names, calling her a bee,
07:17you know, saying dirty cuss words to her.
07:20And so Taryn hit her.
07:21And then Ashley hit her, and they were rolling on the ground and everything.
07:24Mike came over.
07:25Who's Mike?
07:26Mike, her brother.
07:27He came over, got him up, and Taryn was standing there.
07:30And she was, like, acting like a tough, like a bully or whatever.
07:34And so Taryn comes over to me.
07:36She's like, oh, so who's the one that got my cousin suspended from school?
07:39She's like, Erica, like that.
07:41And I was like, yeah, that's me.
07:42She's like, oh, well, I guess I'm going to have to fight for my cousin.
07:45And then she went like that.
07:47And she flinched at me.
07:48And she hit me.
07:49And I hit her.
07:49No, no, just a second.
07:51She flinched at you.
07:52Make sure you tell me, listen to me, make sure you tell me everything that happened.
07:57Don't embellish it to make it sound better, because I'm a truth machine.
08:02Do you understand?
08:04Real cases, real people.
08:07Judge Judy.
08:0817-year-old Taryn Parman claims she was badly injured during a fight with 15-year-old Erica Brown.
08:15Erica says Taryn was looking for trouble, and she found it.
08:19So far, I believe you.
08:23So now don't tell me anything that's not true.
08:27Oh, I'm not.
08:27So here we go.
08:28After she flinched at you, what happened?
08:31I moved like that because I thought she was going to hit me.
08:34Yes.
08:35Very slowly.
08:36And if you don't remember what happened next, you can say, I don't remember what actually happened next.
08:41Don't make it up as you go along.
08:42I'm not.
08:43Good.
08:44So you moved back to sort of avoid her.
08:46Yeah.
08:46And then what happened?
08:47And then she hit me in the jaw.
08:49How did she hit you?
08:50With her fist.
08:51Yes.
08:52She punched me in the jaw.
08:54And so I was like, and I hit her, and then she fell to the ground on her back.
08:57I didn't scratch her.
08:58The gravel, it was gravel.
09:00It wasn't concrete.
09:01The gravel scratched up her back.
09:02That was it.
09:03Because she had a very hurt knee, and her knee was all tore up and everything.
09:07Okay.
09:07So she fell on her back.
09:08Right.
09:09She was getting up like she was going to come at me.
09:11She grabbed my hair.
09:12I grabbed her hair.
09:13I banged her head into the ground.
09:15Then after that, it was like she got up, and she just got into the car.
09:19She didn't say nothing to nobody.
09:21She didn't say anything.
09:22She just got up, got into the car.
09:23Stephen got in.
09:24They left.
09:25That was it.
09:25So what you're telling me is she hit you first.
09:28Yes.
09:29And you retaliated.
09:31Okay.
09:32Now I want you to tell me about this cousin, Stephanie.
09:37I don't have a cousin named Stephanie.
09:38I said in quotes, cousin, friend, whatever.
09:41It's a girl that I used to know in middle school who moved away for four years and just moved back.
09:45Yes.
09:46I don't hang out with her.
09:48Yes.
09:48I know who she is.
09:49We talk at school occasionally when I went to school.
09:52And I want you to tell me about this discussion that you had with the defendant.
09:56Even though it was a short discussion about Stephanie.
09:59We never said anything to each other at that park that day.
10:02We never said a word to each other.
10:03So then you're telling me she just came on and assaulted you.
10:07Denny, Stephen's brother, and all of them were saying, oh, beat her, you know, beat her up, beat her up, beat her up.
10:13I went to turn around, and she hit me.
10:14I never touched her.
10:16She hit me.
10:16She got me on the ground.
10:17Stephen was there.
10:17She just slapped my head into the ground.
10:19Just a second.
10:19Stephen, you think I'm going to believe a thing that he tells me?
10:23This idiot?
10:26Stand up here, Stephen.
10:28I mean, I can't resist this one.
10:30You had a fight with Ashley at the park.
10:33Yes, ma'am.
10:34And after you had a fight with Ashley at the park, you went to her house.
10:37Yes, ma'am.
10:38And you said, we're going to go to the park now.
10:40Yes, ma'am.
10:41Where the other people are sort of hanging around because we're going to have, we're bored today, so maybe we can create a fight.
10:48Right?
10:48No, ma'am.
10:49Well, what did you go there for with her?
10:51To talk to Ashley and let her know that I'm going to be back with Taryn.
10:54You're lying.
10:55No, ma'am, I'm not.
10:56Yes, you are.
10:57Now, what was the reason for getting her involved with Ashley?
11:01I didn't know that Ashley was going to run up to the car and start a fight.
11:04Well, you had had a fight with Ashley before you left the park.
11:07It wasn't really a fight.
11:08It was really a fight.
11:09It was an argument, which is why you went to her house.
11:12It was really an argument.
11:14She may not have hit you and you may not have hit her, but you had an argument.
11:18That's why you went to her house.
11:20During the whole time that him and her had been going out, I had been talking to Ashley on the phone, so I never thought a conflict would have...
11:26I had been talking to her.
11:26I told her that he was cheating on her.
11:28He was cheating on her the whole time he was with her.
11:29I talked to her on the phone every single day.
11:30She called me.
11:31How old are you?
11:3217.
11:33You should be smarter at 17.
11:34I don't expect you to be fully cooked, but you shouldn't be an idiot.
11:38You went there looking for trouble, along with him.
11:42He especially knew that there was going to be trouble, and that he and his relatives egged a fight, egged her on to fight with you.
11:51Doesn't that say something about him, that he's a moron?
11:55And you're a moron for being there.
11:58For that, you don't get rewarded.
12:00You got injured.
12:00Did you call the police?
12:02Yes.
12:02And was she arrested?
12:04Yes, she was.
12:05Was the charge dismissed?
12:06Yes, it was.
12:07Why?
12:08I, they never told me.
12:10Self-defense.
12:11She didn't even file a police report.
12:12If I had hit her, why didn't she file a report?
12:14I haven't did yet.
12:15Shh, just a second.
12:16Maybe, well, maybe she did.
12:18Self-defense.
12:19You went there looking for trouble, but for the fact that you went there with this idiot, there wouldn't have been a fight.
12:26And the two of you went there looking for trouble.
12:28And he knew that because he knew that there were two different factions there.
12:32And Mr. Idiot over here stood by while his two girlfriends fought.
12:40Isn't that what you told me?
12:41What is he doing sitting on your side of the table?
12:44Because he was there.
12:46Is he still your boyfriend?
12:47No.
12:48Shh.
12:48Thank God for small favors.
12:53Anyway, you went there looking for trouble, you found it.
12:56Pay your own medical bills.
12:57Case is dismissed.
12:58That's all.
12:58Parties are excused.
12:59You may step out.
13:00Thank you, Judge Judy.
13:01Karen's a troublemaker, and she went looking for trouble, and she found it.
13:05Jealousy, eye over girls, girls being girls.
13:08I mean, look at her.
13:10Nobody likes her.
13:11I mean, she's not a liked person.
13:14And now, the next case.
13:15All parties in the matter of Busby versus Lanfear.
13:18Step forward, please.
13:1927-year-old telemarketer Larry Busby is suing 40-year-old tattoo artist Bill Lanfear for the cost of a tattoo and for the cost of its removal.
13:29Mr. Busby, do not get too comfortable, sir.
13:32This case is not going to take that long.
13:34Okay.
13:35According to your complaint, you went to the defendant to have a tattoo put on your arm of your girlfriend.
13:40Correct.
13:41He put the tattoo on your arm.
13:44According to you, it was a terrible job.
13:46You went someplace else and had the other arm tattooed, same girlfriend.
13:52Is that right?
13:52Yes.
13:53You want the defendant to pay not only what you paid him to tattoo your arm,
13:59because he didn't like the job, but you want him to pay the cost of having the tattoo surgically removed.
14:05Yes, that's correct.
14:05Is that right?
14:06Yes, ma'am.
14:06Step up, sir.
14:08Let me see the tattoo that the defendant put on your arm.
14:11This is right here.
14:15Okay.
14:16Now, let me see the tattoo that, and her name is Silly?
14:20No, that's just what I call her.
14:21It's like a nickname.
14:21And both tattoo artists, they use the same?
14:25Don't speak to me.
14:26Just show me.
14:27Okay.
14:30And there's Silly Girl.
14:32Right.
14:33Okay.
14:33So we have one Silly.
14:34Now, let me see the other one.
14:35One Silly and one Silly Girl.
14:39Right.
14:39Right?
14:40Yes.
14:40Step back, sir.
14:41Tattooing, you'll excuse me, Mr. Lampier, I think it's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of.
14:49I make a good living at it.
14:50I understand that, especially if somebody tattoos a picture of a girlfriend or a girlfriend's name on an arm.
14:56I mean, marriages don't last.
14:5850% of people get divorced first time, 40% the second time.
15:02They put the names of the girlfriend.
15:03They all want to have it taken off.
15:04The second wife doesn't like the first wife's name staring at her in the middle of the night.
15:08You know?
15:09Well, that's stupidity.
15:10Not only didn't she put a name, you put a whole picture on there.
15:14And not everything is the same.
15:16It's an art form.
15:17It's not going to be exactly a picture.
15:19It's going to be a rendition of a picture.
15:22Even if you stay together, she's going to get older.
15:26And your skin is going to change.
15:27Do you know what happens to your skin sometimes?
15:29As you get older, Mr. Busby, what happens is the skin gets a little flabby.
15:34So her face may not change, but your arm is going to get a little droopy.
15:39And believe me, sir, 20 years from now, those pictures are going to look very, very different on your arm.
15:44Well, ma'am, if I can just explain that I don't...
15:46The fact that I wanted a tattoo of the way she looks now, I understand, you know, she's going to age and things are going to look different.
15:51But I want something...
15:52And your arm is going to age, sir.
15:53Right.
15:54I understand that, ma'am.
15:55The main point is that I took this picture right here that I had blown up, this picture right here, to both tattoo artists, okay?
16:03And I understand there's a certain amount of freedom that each artist has for their artistic freedom.
16:07And I can even point out in this tattoo right here that, you know, it's a different necklace.
16:12The hair's got a few different waves in it, you know?
16:15And I'm not trying to be, like, a complete perfectionist.
16:18Like, the nose is a little too big there, but that's not a big deal.
16:20I'm not, like, that strict about being perfection.
16:22But, I mean, like, these two...
16:23It's no resemblance at all to her.
16:25I carried in a stack of photographs like this and...
16:28Busby, sometimes you go get your hair done.
16:31You go to a very, very famous hairdresser, and they color your hair, if one does that, and they cut your hair, and it comes out terrible.
16:40You hate it.
16:41You don't go back to them.
16:43You don't go back.
16:44This is a very subjective thing you have on your arm, sir.
16:47But I made it clear to him that I wanted...
16:49I guess why I had so many different pictures, I wanted to have a strong resemblance to her.
16:53And this tattoo does not resemble her at all.
16:54It looks like Linda Blair from The Exorcist.
16:56I went in there, I told him, I said, this is my girlfriend.
16:57You look like Linda Blair, it looks lovely.
17:00And maybe, if this relationship doesn't work out, you'll find somebody who more closely resembles your right arm.
17:10Now, if you go to a tattoo artist who is not taking the photograph, it's a rendition, it's a picture of somebody.
17:18Why would somebody want to have that done?
17:20I have no clue to begin with.
17:22It's not a photograph.
17:24It's a picture.
17:25It's his sense of what it is.
17:29And maybe he's a lousy tattoo artist.
17:32But you don't sue for that, sir.
17:33And I certainly, after I had one experience that didn't turn out the way I liked it, wouldn't have gone to somebody else and had the other arm tattooed.
17:40Oh.
17:41To make a long story short, sir, you now have two tattoos.
17:45If you want to have one taken off, take it off.
17:48He's not paying for it.
17:49You understand?
17:50Mm-hmm.
17:51Goodbye.
17:52Parties are excused.
17:53You may step out.
17:54We never go back to this tattoo artist.
17:55Insurance agent, Tarvia LeHue, for an unpaid loan while she was having financial difficulties.
18:01Eric says, once she got the money, she cut him out of her life.
18:07Order.
18:08All rise.
18:08The Honest is case number 559 on the count.
18:17It's a matter of Smith versus LeHue.
18:19Parties have been sworn in, Judge.
18:20You may be seated.
18:20Ma'am, have a seat, please.
18:22Mr. Smith, according to your complaint, you were in a romantic relationship with the defendant and made a loan to her in the amount of $1,400.
18:30That's correct.
18:31She says, you did give her $1,400, but the operative word was a gift.
18:35It was just a gift.
18:36How long did you know her before you gave her this $1,400?
18:40We were in a romantic relationship for approximately two months.
18:43Under what circumstances did you give her the money?
18:47Well, we had a downfall in our relationship in September, which was my fault.
18:52September of 2000?
18:53September of 2000.
18:54Okay.
18:55And I was at fault, but I sincerely cared for the woman, so I wanted to get back with her.
19:01We had begun having discussions about how...
19:03Conversation held between two separate minds.
19:09A quiet, nervous dance of the kind of heart always fun.
19:16The music's in the background, the boss and overbeat.
19:23And suddenly the ordinary feels perfectly complete.
19:27We trade a glance, a question mark, a subtle, nervous blush.
19:36This gentle, sweet beginning in the afternoon rush.
19:42Basically, you shouldn't be vague on the phone, stating that you did have financial problems,
19:45but wouldn't develop into it, and that you didn't trust me, because I had to trade, and so on and so forth.
19:50You asked about the weather, a typical mistake.
19:57But every single syllable made my attention wave.
20:02We talked of traveling, places far away, avoiding all the subjects that we truly want to say.
20:16My tea is getting colder, your espresso's almost done.
20:24We're trying hard to hold the thread beneath this setting sun.
20:29You lean in just a little, the noise begins to fade.
20:37This perfect, tiny promise, a moment gently made.
20:45It's a cafe conversation held between two separate minds.
20:52A quiet, nervous dance of the kind the heart always finds.
20:57The music's in the background, a boss, a nova beat.
21:05And suddenly the ordinary feels perfectly complete.
21:10And I said, well, then.
21:12I mean, it's up to you.
21:13I'm offering that to you, and you're certainly welcome to take it, but as a loan.
21:18It's not a gift.
21:20I'm a physician, but I'm not board certified in a residency yet,
21:24so I only earn, you know, X amount of dollars, and I have a significant debt.
21:27Don't tell that to me.
21:28Listen to me.
21:28Mr. Smith, Dr. Smith.
21:31Yes.
21:31Don't tell that to me unless that's what you said to her.
21:35I don't think that's what you said to her.
21:36I'm not board certified, so I'm in a position to offer it to you as a gift.
21:41I want to know the conversation.
21:43I did say, you know, I have a lot of debt myself,
21:46but I have credit because of my income potential, so I can get whatever you need.
21:50I can get whatever you need.
21:52Right.
21:52I want you to tell me if there was ever any discussion with her
21:56about how she was going to pay you back.
21:58Yes.
21:59Tell me about that part of the discussion.
22:00She told me that the owner, she works at an insurance company,
22:04it's family-owned, that the owner was planning to have a plastic surgical operation done,
22:10and that in her stead, or absence, Tarvia could perform extra paperwork on the weekends,
22:16and for that, she would compensate her.
22:19And I, you know, when I lent the money, I said,
22:21well, then we'll make a fair payment plan, something that's reasonable that you can pay back over time.
22:26And what did she say?
22:27And she said, okay.
22:29You know, I don't think she felt comfortable with it because of her situation.
22:33Well, I think she was embarrassed, one, that she had financial problems,
22:36and two, because of the status of her relationship, whether we were going to get back together or not.
22:40She felt uncomfortable receiving money, but she needed it.
22:43I know, I understand that, but she did say to you that she was going to try to get this extra work
22:48so that she could pay you back.
22:49Yes, she did.
22:50Okay, now I'll hear you.
22:51Okay.
22:52As far as the conversation is concerned, he asked me over repeatedly what was wrong with me.
22:58Because I was vague, I didn't talk very much to him on the phone.
23:01I told him after our breakup, after we stopped talking or whatever,
23:06he pursued me and pursued me and pursued me, and I told him that we could be friends,
23:11that I would still speak to him and talk to him on a friendship level.
23:14I never let him on or anything more than that.
23:16I spoke to him as a friend.
23:18He asked me what was wrong, I seemed vague, what was the problem, you know, and so on and so on.
23:23And it wasn't just one conversation.
23:25I talked to him more than a week, and he still said I seemed vague.
23:28I told him that I did have problems.
23:31He kept asking me what it was, what he could do to help,
23:34guessing at what it may be, this and this and that.
23:37Eventually, I just told him, you know, I have financial problems right now, you know,
23:42and he's like, well, what is it I can help you with it?
23:44What do you need me to help you with?
23:45And I told him, no, I didn't need help from him.
23:48He said, well, you know, could you go to a family member?
23:51Could you?
23:52And I just said, no, you know, I'll figure it out.
23:54And he said, no, I, you know, I care about you.
23:56I want to work it out.
23:57What can I do to help you?
23:59You can ask him.
24:00He did actually, I mean, he, please let me help you.
24:03Please, I'll do whatever it takes to help you.
24:05That's exactly what he said.
24:06Okay.
24:07You know, I told him no for quite a while.
24:10Then finally, he's like, well, I just want to help you, you know, whatever.
24:13I will give you this, is what he said.
24:15The whole thing about him, not earning.
24:17Just a second.
24:18I can give you what?
24:20I will give you what money you need.
24:22Did you tell him in what amount?
24:24Yes.
24:24$1,400?
24:25Yes.
24:26Did you, in fact, have a discussion with him about the place where you work and being able to get extra hours?
24:32The place where I work on Saturdays, which we do this quite often, we can stay late and do extra stuff.
24:41So you did have that discussion with him?
24:42But I could do that at any time.
24:44I don't know.
24:44Yes, I did, yeah.
24:45So that you could make extra money.
24:47Yes, so that I could make extra money, period.
24:50Not to return the money that he was going to give you.
24:53So I could make extra money, period, because I was in financial, I did have financial problems, yes.
24:57Well, once he gave you the $1,400, did that take care of your financial problems?
25:02Pretty much.
25:03Well, if that took care of your financial problems, then it's reasonable to have said that you could work an extra hour or so on Saturdays to get that money back to him over a period of time, isn't it?
25:14Yeah, it's reasonable to say that.
25:15Good.
25:16Real cases.
25:17Real people.
25:18Judge Judy.
25:21Eric Smith claims ex-girlfriend Tarvia LeHue owes him for a loan.
25:25Tarvia says Eric gave her that money.
25:28Okay, Mr. Smith, he was your friend.
25:30He was my friend until he started stalking me and harassing me and waiting outside my house, calling me all times of the night, calling me at work, telling me he was going to kill himself, asking me who would take care of my son, totally obsessing over me, calling my friends, finding out.
25:50Was that before or after the $1,400?
25:52This is after.
25:53Well, Healy, I understand from you that he transferred the money directly into your bank.
25:57Is that right?
25:58Yes.
25:58On what date did he transfer the money into your bank?
26:01I don't know the exact date.
26:03Give me your...
26:03October 19th, Your Honor.
26:04When did you stop speaking to him after October 19th?
26:08Um, I actually never stopped speaking to him.
26:11You mean on a friendly basis?
26:12On any basis.
26:13I didn't stop speaking to him until I changed my phone number in January, because he kept calling at all times of the night.
26:19Mr. Smith, when was she supposed to make her first payment to you?
26:22December 1st.
26:23And how did you come up with that date with her?
26:26Well, I lent her the money on...
26:27We made an agreement, a written agreement on October 18th, 2000.
26:31You have a written agreement?
26:32Yes, Your Honor.
26:33May I see it, please?
26:35I also have evidence of the transfers.
26:37I don't know if you need that.
26:38There's no issue as far as the money is concerned, but I would like to see just the written agreement you have with her.
26:43Okay.
26:44That's the written agreement?
26:45That's the written agreement.
26:46Okay.
26:49Where did you go to medical school, Dr. Smith?
27:00I went to the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine.
27:06Did you sign that?
27:10Yes.
27:11When?
27:14When?
27:16The data's on the patient.
27:18When did you sign it, I asked you.
27:22On the date.
27:24On what date did you sign that document, Madam?
27:29October.
27:31Are you sure about that?
27:32Yes.
27:34Where were you?
27:35He brought this to my house.
27:36That's incorrect, Your Honor.
27:37Did he bring it to your house before or after he transferred the money to your account?
27:43After.
27:44May I respond, Your Honor?
27:45No.
27:46Can I see now from that packet the day of the transfer of the money to her account?
27:51Originally, at my residence, which is where the transfer took place, I wrote checks.
27:57Then, the next day, it appeared that three days was not enough time for the check to clear and for her to resolve her financial difficulties.
28:06So, she held on to the checks, returned them to me later that evening, and during the course of that afternoon, I had made a wire transfer from my credit card to my checking account to her account.
28:16So, the day before you made this wire transfer to her account, she signed this loan agreement?
28:24That's correct. I would not issue money without a contract.
28:26Well, how do you account for this if it was a gift?
28:29I signed that after the fact.
28:31No, you didn't.
28:32Yes, I did.
28:33No, no, no. You signed it before.
28:35It's dated the 18th of October of 2000.
28:38Right. That's the date that the money was transferred.
28:40No, it was transferred on the 19th. I have the bank statement.
28:43But what difference does that make, whether it was done on the 18th or the 19th?
28:47It does, because it was a gift. He gave it to me.
28:50And what did you sign this document for that you were going to repay?
28:51So, he would leave me alone?
28:53You mean in the one day?
28:54No, in the time.
28:56In the one day, you wanted him to leave you alone?
28:57No.
28:58So, then what did you sign the loan agreement for?
29:00So, he would leave me alone after the fact.
29:03You're pretty slick. Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $1,432, which is including the interest, as agreed. That's all.
29:10Parties are excused.
29:11He was harassing me, and at the point where I signed that,
29:16I would have done anything just for him to leave me alone.
29:18Never once did I ever threaten her safety.
29:20His whole behavior, him threatening to kill himself.
29:22Until the clear demise of the relationship, I tried to get her to come back to me.
29:27Following me, driving by my house.
29:29My actions were no way outside the realm of somebody who was a jilted lover and actually cared for her.
29:35He told me he had nothing else but his job to live for.
29:38I care about the woman. I still care about the woman.
29:40He's crazy.
29:40I don't think that that's crazy. I don't think that it's unfounded.
29:44And now, the next case.
29:46All parties on Fiorello versus Kraft. Step forward, please.
29:5033-year-old sales manager Vincent Fiorello is suing 24-year-old graphic designer Danielle Kraft for backing into his car in a nightclub parking lot.
30:00Danielle says Vincent was illegally parked.
30:02Mr. Fiorello, according to what I've read, you were at a club, some sort of club or a bar.
30:09Your car was parked outside in a parking lot. Is that right?
30:12Yes.
30:13Some folks came in and told you that your car had been hit.
30:16You went outside. You found that your car had, in fact, been hit, and it was hit by the defendant in her car.
30:22Yes, Your Honor.
30:23The defendant acknowledges that she hit your car.
30:25Her defense is twofold. First, that your car was parked illegally, and second, that you were annoying her.
30:32Tell me about your defense.
30:34I was at the club that night and hanging out there, and he kept approaching me all night.
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