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00:00and she reported to the police i'm a felon i'm not going to get arrested for someone fighting with
00:04me what kind of felony four felonies of third degree two criminal mischief and two grand theft
00:09judge judy rolled nick baum for punching him in the mouth at work craig says the assault took
00:15place in the middle of the lunch rush all rise quiet in the courtroom please quiet in the
00:22courtroom please the honest is case number 145 on the calendar of bar versus baum thank you you're
00:30welcome judge parties have been sworn in you may be seated folks have a seat please mr bar you and
00:35the defendant work together and according to your complaint he had an argument with him and during
00:40the course of that argument he assaulted you he punched you you want to be compensated yes ma'am
00:45mr baum said it is true that you did have an argument however you were the one who was the
00:51first to use your hands and he just reacted so he was really acting in self-defense which is your
00:58claim yes how old are you 20 and you sir 28 where do you work um for a sub shop how long have you
01:06worked there four months at this particular restaurant how long have you worked for the
01:11company three years and you manage this restaurant yes ma'am general manager and mr baum how long did
01:18you work at this particular restaurant right there for about two months two months yes ma'am and mr
01:24bar was your boss yes okay what kind of work did you do there sandwich artist sandwich artist sandwich
01:31artist i made the sandwiches sandwich artist when did this argument take place 5 22 of this year
01:39what time i'd say about 1 30 1 30 is lunchtime so you must have been busy real busy real busy
01:45so tell me what happened mr bar uh being being a manager i usually generally don't work on the
01:51weekends but seeing as i had hired listen listen i want you to do is i want you to look at me when
01:58you're testifying i don't want you to look over there i don't want you to look over there i don't
02:02should i want you to look at me and i want you to answer my question which is what happened on may
02:0922nd 2004 at approximately 1 30 in the afternoon i went back to the restaurant and i made a beeline
02:19toward chris which was a new employee back to the restaurant which i assume meant that you left the
02:24restaurant at some point yes when had you arrived at the restaurant open eight o'clock in the morning
02:29and what time did you leave about 10 30 to go make the bank deposit for the earnings for the
02:34day before and what time did you return about 12 30 took you two hours to make a deposit i was
02:41doing personal matters i wasn't scheduled to work that day okay so you got back at 12 30 when you got
02:47back at 12 30 what happened i had asked chris how the day was going it was his first day i'd ask him
02:53first day as working as an employee for the store you're chris yes ma'am step up so you said to chris
03:01that's you raise your hand you said to chris who was a new employee this gentleman was a yes new
03:08employee you said how are things going exactly how you liking it are you picking things up is nick and
03:15the other girl showing you stuff okay and chris said nothing positive toward nick they're not
03:22getting along nick's telling me he's not doing stuff right he's ready to walk out you mean chris
03:28is ready to leave chris is ready to walk out nick's having an attitude and earlier that morning i observed
03:32nick having an attitude toward customers i knew there was something on his chest i figured it would just
03:36shake it off as the day went on but obviously it didn't it progressed so what happened next i asked
03:41the other girl who was working there what has she seen well what have you what's going on i don't
03:46want you to tell me what she said exactly well anyway i asked another staff member what they
03:49thought of the situation they shook their head walked away they didn't want no part of any of the
03:54nonsense i had then walked started to walk up to the register i noticed that nick was being rudely
04:00toward an elderly lady he was cashing out i asked what was he saying to her just the tone in the voice
04:05not a typical friendly restaurant attitude that you'd want someone to have at this particular
04:10establishment we up talk friendly courteous smile being short to say the least okay well i have to
04:20envision what you're saying so because you're not being more articulate you want to try to explain
04:24better what you observed with regard to this elderly just his body language and his tone of his voice
04:31okay so what happened next i asked him to leave the restaurant i said nick please leave get out
04:36i wasn't firing him i just wanted him out the restaurant that day obviously there was something
04:40bothering him that day he was causing friction among the other staff members he was also okay being
04:48short with the customers having an attitude i thought it was the best business decision for the
04:53establishment to remove nick from operations that particular day and at that time he had been
04:57working for the place for about four months yes ma'am and had you had trouble with him before
05:02no so this was an unusual occurrence that's what i was telling you something was obviously bothering
05:07that day okay good so you told him to leave good idea what happened i continued to cash somebody out
05:13just as i closed her cash register door turned my back he punches me in the mouth didn't see it coming
05:19it was over my shoulder it was a sucker punch she drilled me in the mouth pretty hard uh he began to
05:25start to swing other hands at me i was able to block him i eventually we somehow we got into a stance
05:30of wrestle i my first instance was to get him away from the glass away from the knives away from the
05:35customers because meanwhile the lines out the door there's all these people in the establishment
05:38and this is what they're saying they're saying nick attacking the manager i got nick out into the lobby
05:43i let up as i let him up i had blood going down i went like this try to get my bearings straight what's
05:48going on why am i bleeding and next thing you know nick and chris were running down the street like
05:54two little girls okay judge judy continues in a moment what happened after you pushed him in the
06:00back he turned around and scratched me like a girl well didn't you report it to the police sir
06:05i'm a felon i'm not going to get arrested for someone fighting with me what kind of felony
06:09two criminal mischief and two grand theft and later today you say because she breached the agreement
06:15i should be able to use these songs for my own purposes yes ma'am he can't do that that's my melody
06:21real cases real people judge judy sandwich store manager craig bar says former employee nick baum
06:32punched him in the mouth at work nick says craig slapped his hand what kind of injury did you suffer
06:38mr bar i was treated the emergency room for four stitches inside and outside of my lip uh it seems
06:45to be that when he hit me my teeth went through my bottom lip had four stitches four stitches and i need
06:50to go back for plastic laser laser surgery upon once all the scar tissue settles and then they
06:56can see exactly how they can make this to be a not a permanent injury okay who is this this is a
07:00witness her name's shannon she was there that day all right mr baum i'd like you you can sit down
07:06i'd like you to tell me your version of the events you were having a bad day why were you having a bad
07:10day mr baum because christopher stress was not up to date on his job he wasn't doing it properly
07:17but he was a new employee mr i know that's the whole thing you know friends can't work together
07:22so he was your friend yes we are friends before that the whole thing we had picked him up from
07:27port charlotte to bring him in so you got him the job it was his idea for the job but he didn't know
07:35chris did he yes he did you knew chris from before i knew him from the streets you told him about chris
07:41exactly well i didn't tell him that he needed a job he come over to stay the weekend at your house
07:45at his house i was living with him oh that's not necessarily true your honor yes it is just a
07:52second mr baum was living at your house i wouldn't say that he was staying there he was kicked out of
07:57his previous residence for his hostile attitude toward the people he was staying with okay
08:03he was staying at your house i guess so i still have his uh house key staying take your hands out
08:12of your pockets he was staying at your house and chris was staying at your house he'd ask this day
08:18for the weekend okay fine so now he's back at the shop mr baum so now tell me what happened with mr
08:24bar when he had come in me and christopher confronted him about what we were talking about
08:27him not doing his job right he didn't want to hear it he ignored it he walked straight up and down
08:32the line then come to me while i'm proceeding to help a customer not no old woman a gentleman
08:37he then smacked my hand pushed in front of me told me to get the hell out how did he do that sir
08:42i'm standing here at the register chris stand up over there you're standing next to the register
08:47say this is me this is me he's on the register helping a customer no no no who's on the register
08:53myself you're on the register he's playing you yes listen to me he's you
09:01he's at the register now and i'm mr bar and you're mr bar so make like you're at the register
09:07he'd come up smack my hand show me how show me how he did that
09:11okay he pushed your hand away no he hit it he hit it hard with force and he said get out he didn't
09:18ask him i didn't ask you anything you went like this push your hand up and then squeeze in front of
09:25me between the register as i'm helping okay and then what happened sir i pushed him step back how
09:31did you put no show me how you pushed him okay so you pushed him from the back and then and the
09:38shot i did so do you hear i didn't ask you a thing and then what happened after you pushed him in the
09:45back he turned around and scratched me like a girl how did he scratch you from the left top corner of
09:50my forehead across to my bottom right eye with his nails nails and all i still got a faint scar
09:56well didn't you report it to the police sir nope why not so i'm a felon i'm not going to get arrested
10:04for someone fighting with me what do you mean you're a felon i have felony on my record what kind of
10:09felony four felonies of third degree two criminal mischief and two grand theft criminal mischief is
10:16usually not a felony sir when it's damages consisted over 500 what kind of damages sir
10:22damage is a property and you left i left after weren't you weren't now see we're skipping a large
10:30part here when when i after he scratched me i then hit him he fell down he's like oh we're supposed to
10:36be boys i then went to walk out he grabbed me by my leg i fell over he tried to get on top of me i
10:43threw him on the wall and walked out so we have any photographs sir of the damage to your life i got
10:49i got photographs and all the necessary paperwork i also have a claim number from the largo police
10:53department they wouldn't release the actual police report because they're a little slow in their
10:57paperwork and it's not public record yet tell me your name i'm shannon lavancher lavancher 17 year
11:03i apologize miss lavancher what capacity you were at the restaurant on the 22nd of may 2004
11:16i was there getting a sandwich tell me what happened with regard to any hitting slapping
11:23i always i always that i had seen was nicholas hit craig i didn't see craig swing on nick at all
11:30then they wrestled out into the lobby and that's all i had seen is it possible nick that you were
11:37disrespectful or less than courteous towards customers on that we had 20 customers in that
11:42line i'm just asking you i was being straightforward with them to get them in and out i was not trying
11:47to spend any time with them i was not in any way listen to me very carefully sir i didn't ask you for
11:54excuses i said is it possible that you were being less than courteous to the customers not with the
12:02customers no okay when was your last arrest nick november 23rd 2002 did you spend any time in jail
12:10nine months when did you get out it was actually 215 days that'd be june 26 2003 and when did you go to
12:20work for mr bar i can't recall what the actual date was what date did he start working for you
12:25middle of april he had worked at another restaurant how long do you know him mr bar from the original
12:32store only from the original store through business yes ma'am so you gave him an opportunity i gave him
12:39a second chance to come back into the company is that right yes ma'am and what happened at your last
12:44job nick i walked out on him why i didn't like his work and i was paid too little and despite that
12:50mr bar gave you another opportunity to more money yeah so he evidently liked you yeah because i was
12:56good at what i did so i'm trying to think of why mr bar who was a perfectly nice guy no who gave you
13:02to you no he wasn't not exactly wasn't well according to you he was there was a lot of
13:09confrontations up to the point where i wound up living with him you say goodbye you're a big guy
13:15you spend nine months in prison you know what it's like to have to fend off people and take care of
13:22yourself and be responsible for your own safety right you know all about that so if somebody is
13:28being not nice to you big boy pack up and you leave you chose not to do that so i don't want to hear
13:35that this that mr bar that choice was not an option until the end there was no real what do
13:41you mean a choice was not an option you mean you were an indentured servant that's not we don't
13:45have indentured servitude in this country anymore so you have free will which means if somebody isn't
13:49nice to you you leave nick i don't believe you i don't believe you i believe that maybe he knocked
13:56your hand off the cash register that doesn't justify punching him in the face causing him to have
14:01four stitches and permanent permanent scar on his lip which are reflected in here judgment for the
14:07plaintiff in the amount of twenty five hundred dollars that's step out step out parties are
14:12excused you may step out no comment i wouldn't really at fault he put his hands on me what can i say
14:18you know if i knew it was going to be like this i would have hit him more than once and now the next
14:23case all parties in the matter of jones versus dunson step forward please school teacher cheryl jones
14:29is suing studio owner david dunson for a refund for a children's recording session cheryl says
14:35david never finished the job it's like we got a lot of show and tell here but let me see if i can
14:40simplify this miss jones you hired mr dunston for the agreed upon price of a thousand dollars
14:48correct to create musical arrangements for children's songs and to use his recording studio
14:55in order to record those songs right you paid him according to you a total of 650 dollars right
15:04towards the thousand dollars those songs according to you that were never completed because he kept
15:10moving the studios mr dunston says that he wants to be able to use that music because he's never been
15:19fully paid is that right correct you say well i paid him 650 and i can't use the music and record it
15:28because he has the copyright we agreed upon 650 as the agreement we changed the agreement because he
15:36continued to move and not and he wasn't doing a professional job so 650 was the new agreement just
15:42to use the tracks well but what you're suing for here before me is your 650 right you want your
15:50money back because you didn't get what you bargained for right that's correct he wants to be able to
15:56record the music because he's copyrighted it already correct you've copyrighted the music already
16:02they're copywritten through my machine when she comes i don't care whether they're copywritten through
16:06a machine she can't do it without your permission and you have already executed something through
16:12a machine so that you have this music copyrighted according to you no your honor you don't have
16:18copyrights to the music no there's no copyrights with the congress the copyrights is when she comes
16:24into the studio and it records the date and time when she copy comes in and recorded her music it
16:31copyrights it then and then when we finish the uh song she takes it and we sign the agreement for her
16:38personally exclusively to use the copyrights have you done that yet no ma'am good do you want to
16:45record this music for any other purpose according to you you do yes you say my those shop up i'm sorry
16:52you say because she breached the agreement i should be able to use these songs for my own purposes yes
17:00he can't do that that's my melody well he cannot use that with my melody i sang those songs to him
17:06he created the music around me singing it that's my melody he can't use that you're suing him for 650
17:13dollars back i'm going to give you your 650 dollars back you didn't get what you bargained for
17:19that's all i have to do do you understand that sir she didn't get what she bargained for you have to
17:25give her back her money now whether you can use these songs or she can use these songs i don't
17:32have to deal with it she's suing for 650 dollars and you didn't give her a complete track of children's
17:40music i gave her all 12 your honor and she's no no you say he or she breached the agreement
17:45and i should be able to use those songs if i want to maybe you can and maybe you can't i don't have to go
17:53there that's what you say in your defense sir so she gets her 650 dollars back you can hum he can
18:00hum and i can go home thank you very much thank you
18:04i paid him to do a job and he didn't do it she wanted 12 songs for 650 dollars and i refused he
18:15wanted money on the back end and that wasn't gonna happen 12 songs is not worth 650 dollars
18:21well i'll just get somebody else to make the deets and to record it and it's gonna be big
18:25you know i plan on changing the face of educational music
18:28i started to breastfeed she says well sure just whip it out she raised her sweater she exposed her
18:40breast and that's what i had a problem it happened in a flash she came up out of her chair and hit me
18:45across the side of the face she was this close i was afraid should have kept your hands to yourself
18:50i'm not being judgmental it is a natural occurrence and you can do it
18:54and over the course of that brief relationship you loaned her a substantial amount of money
19:01that's correct honor and then she broke up with you she told you she had a new boyfriend you want
19:05your money back correct miss clark says she never borrowed any money from you you gave her money
19:11the money that you advanced to her were gifts she owes you nothing when did you find each other
19:18on the internet i live about the october of last year how old are you sir 27 where do you live
19:25i live in virginia miss virginia and you i live in martinsville virginia how old are you miss clark
19:3027 how many children do you have i have five children when you met on the internet did you
19:36tell mr carroll about your five kids yes ma'am is that right yes you were looking for an instant
19:42family it didn't matter to me she seemed like she seemed like a nice person so i wanted to get to
19:48know her better and the fact that the you know children never bothered me i love kids and i have
19:51a i don't have any of my own but i do have a niece who i adore and i like children so that that
19:56condition didn't bother me when did you first meet in person uh weekend of halloween and how often
20:03did you see her after that she came to see me about every other weekend if not every weekend
20:07and she would come with or without her children yeah she'd come with her children she'll get along
20:13yeah yeah gone pretty great i took care of them for christmas and i bought them christmas presents
20:17which those were gifts and then about the beginning of last year is uh when the beginning of this year
20:22is when i started loaring her the money when did you break up beginning may of this year who broke up
20:26with whom she called me and told me she don't want to continue the relationship she said she had
20:30needed more time in her life with no man in her life and want to get her life straight without a
20:34relationship and that she wanted to stay friends and then maybe one day pick her relationship back
20:38up where left off okay but you would have new boyfriends at that point not at the time okay after
20:43a little while i did start seeing somebody else when a couple weeks a couple of weeks waited that long
20:50did you it was mainly i was trying to be nice it was mainly because we argued all the time about what
20:59any pretty much any little thing you could imagine every time we're on the phone we argued
21:04okay is this the boyfriend yes ma'am is he here for any reason my witness for what money that
21:11he was never said that it was a loan well how would he know that because he was he was a friend of
21:17mine and he was with me all the time so you mean while you were dating mr carol and asking him for
21:24money what's your name triton horton what triton horton first name triton triton
21:31i have to tell that name to my daughter she likes peculiar names for her children
21:38that's one i haven't heard anyway so triton was around while you were dating and borrowing money from
21:48mr carol i wasn't borrowing any money from mr taking money from mr carol how do you like that
21:54better so triton was around while you were taking money and seeing mr carol that's either a yes or a
22:03no miss clark yes ma'am and then he became your boyfriend yes ma'am two weeks after you dumped
22:11mr carol yes ma'am does he live with you yes ma'am since when he's been living with me well he lived
22:20with me even when we were together so did his witness so what's your name myra myra lived with
22:28you yes ma'am how did the you two meet in virginia beach i brought her and her boyfriend back home
22:33with me because they met through the plaintiff yes ma'am and she came to live with you and you were
22:39living with yourself at the time your five children triton and myra actually they lived
22:47with us first and then triton had moved in when he had lost his apartment he lost his apartment
22:53because he didn't have any money money how much money did you give to her over the period of over
23:03the course of uh january or january 2 of may i loaned her well over five thousand dollars via western
23:08union which i have our seats right here for every single one now tell me how it would come about
23:12that you gave her this money she would call me and like say you know i need a my my belts are
23:17broke on my car i need to get replaced or my kids are sick shh just a second my kids are sick or i'm
23:24sick i need money for food or you know i need money for easter i need money for car repairs i need money
23:29for my bills my wife's about to get shut up i have my rent's overdue i'm gonna get kicked out of my
23:32house please honey help me out please honey help me out and what did you say to her
23:36absolutely i cared about her i cared for her children so i was going to be willing to work
23:40out for them since we were supposedly dating at the time i wanted to make sure she was staying
23:44care of so i loaned her the money well so far i haven't heard anything about a loan mr carol
23:49so far i've heard babe can you help me out and you said i said sure because we would listen to me
23:55mr carol because i said sure you know we were a couple we were together i cared for her you know
24:00and she needed money so i wanted to help her out it was all under the condition she would also say
24:04you know i promise i'll pay you back and my right here who was with her almost every single time
24:08she would say uh i promise i'll pay you back i said well i need the money back and i can't just
24:12be given out by you know all this kind of money and not get it back and i need some you know
24:17redemption at one point or another and she's like mr carol mr carol let me tell you something
24:22don't embellish when you come to court because i can hear her saying honey i promise i'll pay you
24:30back as soon as i get a job i promise i'll pay you back but i don't hear you saying to her
24:35listen i need some redemption at some point and that i don't believe i believe she probably said
24:40to you honey i promise i'll pay you back so don't embellish because when things don't sound right to
24:47my ears they're usually not true we understand each other mr carol yes ma'am
24:50judge judy continues in a moment she was always asking for money not well the twins are sick and
24:59i need some money please so i can get the medication yes she would use some of the money to get the
25:03medication but she was also using money to buy illegal drugs and later today don't stand there
25:08and make excuses you know you can't get by in good looks beauty fades we're not ladies
25:12dumb is forever
25:14real cases real people judge judy martin carroll says ex-girlfriend cynthia clark owes for unpaid
25:25loans to pay bills martin's witness myra edwards claims cynthia used the money to buy drugs can i see
25:32those please what did he give you the money for miss clark one time he sent it for easter to help get
25:39my kids easter baskets my twins got sick and he had sent me money for medication another time he'd
25:46send me money to go down to see him because i couldn't afford a trip by myself i wasn't working
25:52at the time and i do have five children and he wanted to see me so he would send me money to come
25:56see him go ahead let me hear the rest he also had sent me money to fix my car well to get another car
26:03because my car was messed up all this money that he was sending you it came out as a result of you
26:08placing a telephone call to him to say honey i need money because otherwise he wouldn't have known
26:13is that right yes ma'am so you called him and asked him for money most of the time he offered it to me
26:19but i would talk to him about the problems and he would offer it to me you know i'm here here for you
26:25i love you i'll do anything for you if you need the help you know i'm here for you i'll send you the
26:29money now all the time he was saying that to you when you were telling him that you needed money for
26:33all these things mr triton over here he was living in your house is that right yes ma'am and
26:39not working because he didn't have any money which is why he got thrown out of his own house is that
26:43right yes ma'am now myra you were living at her house yes ma'am were you ever present when these
26:51phone calls were made asking for money phone calls were made regularly from her to martin and she was
26:59always asking for money well the twins are sick and i need some money please so i can get the
27:03medication yes she would use some of the money to get the medication but she was also using the
27:09money to buy illegal drugs no ma'am your honor second did you ever hear her say to the plaintiff
27:15anything about paying back the money she would be crying to him on the phone talking about she
27:21would pay him back and then she'd get off the phone with him well he's a sucker because he should
27:25know that i'm not going to pay him back no ma'am your honor how many rooms are in this house three
27:33bedrooms you had one no ma'am where did you sleep on the couch no ma'am your honor she slept in my
27:39bedroom where did triton sleep in the bed with cindy when did that start around valentine's day
27:48because he got out of jail shortly before valentine's day what were you in jail for
27:52uh probation violation
27:53probation violation for what uh felon to do my community service community service on what was
28:05the underlying charge uh oh it's not an answer felony gun charges were you sentenced to prison
28:12on that charge uh i was sent to a year in henry county jail so that that wasn't your first arrest
28:17no ma'am it wasn't right okie dokie and you got out of jail about valentine's day
28:22uh yes just before and moved right back with miss clark no ma'am i didn't move right in with her
28:29how many days did it take you to move back in with her it was more than a few weeks i got my own
28:34apartment and then we made an agreement with mara and her boyfriend that they could move into my
28:39apartment since they were sleeping in cindy's bed now when she moved out with her boyfriend
28:43where did you move to i moved to the air mattress and the living room floor
28:48you mean you moved out of your apartment where you had a nice comfortable bed you slept on the
28:54floor you want me to believe that the apartment was a rat's nest and that's why she moved in there
28:58because it was a rat's nest that's because she didn't want to live there no more miss clark
29:02i don't believe that there was a contract that was made between you and the plaintiff that i can
29:12characterize as a loan i think that she would call you ask you for money you loved her you gave her
29:19the money because it was your intention that the two of you were going to spend your lives together
29:25that'd be a fair statement i want to build a relationship i don't know how long term but i wanted
29:29you know i was looking out for her and kids and the only reason i did it was only assumption that
29:32she would pay me back she would always tell me she'd pay me listen to my question okay how did
29:38you think she was going to pay you back with what she said wampum she said when she got a job she
29:43started paying me back okay listen this is somebody whose business is making babies she's 27 years old
29:49she has five children she has no money she relies on the largesse of others she finally got herself a
29:54job she's got a boyfriend who can't i was going to say who can't get himself arrested but that
29:59wouldn't be true so you listen to me very carefully sir i don't believe that you had what i would
30:05consider a valid contract with her to repay you this money however i believe that you're entitled to
30:12the money from her because i believe she defrauded you i believe she led you to believe that you were in
30:19a monogamous relationship with her and based on that monogamous relationship that was working
30:25towards something that could have been permanent she was asking you for money and i believe that all
30:31the time she was asking you for money she was making a fool out of you with mr triton so she got that
30:38money from you fraudulently and she has to return it judgment for the plaintiff for the amount of
30:45five thousand dollars that's all thank you no i did not fraudulate him the whole time we were
30:52we were totally together she was cheating on the trade i should have told him she's a lion
30:56chocolate i'm just glad it's over just watch her back
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