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00:00They were married for 20 years. You want a divorce? Yeah. The violence. He raised his hand. I was concerned that he was going to hit me. The accusations. There's bad drug and alcohol problems. Can I respond to that? No. And a surge of lies. Your wife flooded your boat. A wall of water knocks me out of the boat. Crazy. Judge. Judge, you may be seated. Folks, have a seat, please. Mr. McMahon, how long have you and the defendant been married? 11 years.
00:30Before separation. Altogether, how many years have you been married? 20 years. And how long has it been since the two of you lived together? Nine. You have children? Yes. How many children? One. How old is that child? He's 17. Your complaint says that your wife flooded your boat while she was out on the lake. Your boat was out on the lake and she decided to sort of vandalize your boat while she was in her wave runner. That's what the
01:00said. You flooded the boat and you wanted to pay for the damage to the boat. But I have a few questions before I get there.
01:05When I read in your complaint that you and the defendant was separated for almost 10 years, I wondered why two people, if they're separated for almost 10 years, are not divorced.
01:14Well, it was filed in 96.
01:16Who filed for divorce in 1996?
01:19I did.
01:19Okay.
01:20So, it's gone on for mostly assets. Whose is what, what it's worth. It's gone to mediation, status conference hearings year after year. We're presently mediation. They should have the following report. Should be ended.
01:35Are you a very rich man?
01:37No, ma'am.
01:38Are you a very rich woman?
01:39No.
01:41Well, then what are we arguing about?
01:43I don't know.
01:45What are we arguing about?
01:46Well, we had quite a bit of assets.
01:49Like what?
01:50We had a business together. We had been together for 20 years.
01:55No, you haven't been together for 20 years. You've been together 11 years.
01:58Well, we lived together for a few years before. But we had vehicles and a lot of assets through our business.
02:07Ms. McMahon, how old are you?
02:09I'm 48.
02:10So that at the time that you and your husband separated, you were 39 years old. Is that right?
02:15A young woman.
02:19And you want a divorce?
02:21Yes.
02:21How old are you?
02:2350.
02:23You have a girlfriend?
02:25Yes.
02:26Is that this lady?
02:26Yes, ma'am.
02:27How long have you been together?
02:28Four years now.
02:30You have a boyfriend?
02:32Yes, I do.
02:32How long have you been together?
02:34About a year.
02:35It's time.
02:37Yes, ma'am.
02:38I know. You two people are taking that very precious window. If you think of it this way, you're close to 50. For almost 20% of your life, you've been feuding. I mean, if you think about it. If you think about the fact that you don't grow up really until you're 20. And you're almost 50. That means for almost a third of your life, you've been feuding. You, a little less than that. Is that ridiculous?
03:03Ridiculous? Ridiculous. Do you have lawyers?
03:08Yes, ma'am.
03:09You have a lawyer?
03:09Not anymore because I've spent so much money on attorneys.
03:13Right. Crazy people. All right. Tell me about this flooding of your boat.
03:19Well, as in the police report, we spend a year every year at the river for 10 days.
03:25Who does?
03:26My girlfriend and myself. So on the second day of our vacation, I went for a boat ride in the morning and the boat wasn't running right, so I was adjusting the idle.
03:37The next thing I know, a wall of water hits me, almost knocks me out of the boat, and the engine locks up.
03:44And that was your wife?
03:47Yes.
03:47And did you see how she sprayed your boat and you with a wall of water?
03:52Well, at the time, I didn't see it because I was working on the engine, but when everything cleared and settled down, I looked, and there she was on the wave runner with her soon-to-be daughter-in-law.
04:01And I yelled at her, I said, you idiot, you have no idea what you've just done.
04:05And she says, he happens at the river, and drove off.
04:10Nice.
04:10Very nice.
04:12And your boat was damaged?
04:13Very much so, yes.
04:14Tell me about it.
04:15Well, after the bilge pumps came on, we had to bail the water out, keep it from sinking, because it's been swamped before by bigger boats, and it sank, so she knew what she was doing.
04:25We took the, put it on the trailer, we had to walk on the trailer, because the engine didn't run.
04:29Can I have a picture of this boat?
04:30Yes, ma'am.
04:31Can I see it, please?
04:32While I'm looking at it, how big is this river?
04:36Uh, it's 17 miles long from dam to dam.
04:38So it's a big river?
04:41Yes, Colorado River.
04:41You just happened to find yourself in the same place at the same time?
04:45No, the mediator, uh, explained to us that he let her know we were going on vacation and weren't available for a court appearance, and I think it was intentional, and she was there at the same time we were.
04:54Oh, so you had a court appearance?
04:56Yes, and we'd canceled because of our vacation and our work schedules.
05:00Uh, we went to the river, and we missed the court date, and obviously he told her that, uh, where we were going to be.
05:06How long in advance was this court date scheduled?
05:09Uh, probably 60 days.
05:11So two months?
05:12Yeah.
05:13And you had to pick that time to go on vacation? Don't you want to get this whole process over with?
05:18Oh, I'd love to.
05:19So why'd you go on vacation when you had a court appearance?
05:21Well, because we weren't ready for the status conference hearing, the mediator wasn't ready, wasn't done with his report.
05:26Like what? What did you need?
05:28Well, I needed him to finish his report, and he couldn't finish it.
05:31Finish his report about what?
05:32About the business assets.
05:34We had an auto repair business that lasted a whole year and a half, and Mrs. McMahon thinks it's worth millions of dollars.
05:40And did you sell it?
05:41No.
05:42Just closed the door.
05:43Well, what do you think happened to the business?
05:44He actually moved the business to his residence.
05:47Yeah?
05:48In Carlsbad from our business in Oceanside.
05:51The lot that we had there was over an acre lot, so he had plenty of room to do auto repairs.
05:58You're not talking about, you know, Boeing.
06:01Judge Judy continues in a moment.
06:04He should be for paternity on her son.
06:06Oh, you thought that it might not be your child?
06:08Biologically, he's not my child, you know.
06:10Oh, my goodness, how you people screwed up your lives.
06:14I just can't believe it.
06:15Real cases.
06:19Real people.
06:21Judge Judy.
06:22Steve McMahon says his estranged wife, Cheryl McMahon, flooded his boat, nearly sinking it.
06:28Cheryl says the incident was instigated by Steve's anger.
06:32Madam, you're talking about, at best, a little mom-and-pop operation out of his house.
06:38Is that what you are holding hope of getting millions of dollars out of?
06:44No.
06:44So, what I hope to is to get a loan paid off that Mr. McMahon made for this business.
06:51That was my hopes.
06:53Okay.
06:53And is it a loan that you're responsible for?
06:55Both of us are responsible for, yes.
06:57Have you been paying it?
06:58Yes, ma'am.
06:58Have you been paying it?
07:00Yes.
07:00I paid it up to 97 or 98.
07:02Well, that's a long time ago.
07:04Who's been paying it since 97?
07:06I don't know.
07:07I have.
07:07You have?
07:08Yes.
07:09How much?
07:11It's like $19,000 I've paid against it.
07:14Since 1997?
07:16Yes.
07:17Do you know that?
07:18Well, the loan was only for $20,000, and we paid on it for almost two years before that.
07:23Yeah, but, you know, that could have been interest.
07:25You know, now she says...
07:26No, there was no interest.
07:27It was a...
07:27Shh!
07:28Listen to me.
07:29What she says is she just wants to be absolved of at least half of this debt.
07:35May I respond?
07:36Yeah, sure.
07:37This is why we're going through all these years of court proceedings, because all the
07:41receipts and checks and canceled, everything we present in the matter of this loan is fraudulent.
07:47So it goes on and on.
07:48Just one second.
07:49You have $19,000 that she said she's paid so far.
07:53Anything else owing on the loan?
07:55Yes, ma'am.
07:55How much?
07:56Um, I think it's about $7,000 or $8,000 right now.
08:00What is that, just interest?
08:01It was a 15-year loan, and our payments were $225 a month.
08:07Okay, so the first couple of years you paid, Mr. McMahon, forget it.
08:10You know, I mean, that's ancient history.
08:12Okay?
08:13There's this big piece left.
08:14Why don't you just cut it in half and say this was a marital debt.
08:20Over.
08:21Finished.
08:22Pay it, and goodbye.
08:24Did you pay a lawyer more than $15,000 over the last nine years?
08:28Actually, I couldn't answer that question, because I haven't got a bill for him, and I'm
08:31sure it's going to be expensive.
08:35Ma'am?
08:36What?
08:36It cost him $13,000 to take me to court for paternity.
08:42Taking a court for what paternity?
08:44He sued me for paternity on our son.
08:47Oh, you thought that it might not be your child?
08:49Is that what you're telling me?
08:50Biologically, he's not my child.
08:52No.
08:53Was that established in the paternity test?
08:56Because the way the law is written in California, if you raise a child over two years, he automatically
09:00becomes your responsibility.
09:03Have you been supporting him?
09:04Yes.
09:05Well, oh my goodness, how you people screwed up your lives.
09:09I just can't believe it.
09:11Mm-mm-mm.
09:13And I have a sense that if I saw you back here in 10 years, you're going to be in the
09:17same spot, just frittering away your whole lives over spite and meanness and nastiness
09:25and stupidity.
09:28Instead of just putting a period and moving on and saying, listen, I have a chance to have
09:32the rest of my life free and clear.
09:34Let me just do it.
09:34Well, this is money and it's not major money.
09:37It's just, I've been paying it anyway.
09:39Let me just get over it.
09:40Here's some money.
09:42Here's my half.
09:43Goodbye and good luck.
09:44Let me have a happy life.
09:45Listen, how did it come about that you flooded his boat?
09:49You flooded his boat, right?
09:51I did get water on his boat, yeah.
09:53Good.
09:54Okay.
09:54So now you're going to tell me how it came about that you flooded his boat.
09:58Well, on August 13th, and to get back to the vacation, I vacationed out there that week
10:06because it's my birthday week every year since Steve and I separated.
10:11So he was very aware that I was going to be out there.
10:15Not, I had no idea he was going to be out there.
10:17Just tell me why you flooded his boat.
10:19So our son went upriver on the wave rudder, came back down and said,
10:26Dad's upriver, can I go up there and ride in the boat?
10:29Well, because there's stipulations regarding the girlfriend on visitation,
10:36I needed to make sure that it was okay through Steve.
10:40Why?
10:40What's wrong with the girlfriend?
10:42Well, there's been drug and alcohol problems.
10:45Well, did you ask your son whether the girlfriend was in the boat?
10:47He didn't see her.
10:49So then his father was alone in the boat.
10:52So what did you have to go up there for?
10:53Well, I needed to make sure that things were appropriate up there.
10:57What does that mean?
10:57His father was out on the river in a boat.
11:00He's 17 years old.
11:01No, he's 16.
11:02See, he's 16 years old and he wanted to go on the boat with his father.
11:07Can I respond to that?
11:08No.
11:08Okay.
11:13Real cases.
11:14Real people.
11:15Judge Judy.
11:17Steve McMahon claims his wife, Cheryl McMahon, sank his ski boat out of revenge.
11:23Go ahead.
11:23So I went up along with Terry, my girlfriend.
11:28There was nobody.
11:29The boat was in the water.
11:31At that time, I took some pictures of the boat.
11:33Why?
11:34So that I could go back and show the court that the boat was in running operations.
11:40We were supposed to have it appraised out, but Mr. McMahon wouldn't agree to that.
11:46So we had to get a court order for that.
11:48So you just happened to have a camera on your wave runner.
11:52Mm-hmm.
11:52You just happened to have a camera on your wave.
11:54Just a second.
11:56On your wave runner when you went up river with this lady.
11:59Is that what you're telling me?
12:01Yes.
12:01I always have a camera in there.
12:02Always have a camera.
12:04Keep going.
12:05Okay.
12:06He wasn't there.
12:07I went back down to camp.
12:09A little while later, I went for a ride and I wasn't planning on seeing Mr. McMahon.
12:16at that time with Jessica.
12:19And we went up river and then on our way back, we seen that Steve was sitting on the boat.
12:25Yes.
12:25And I started to go closer to him.
12:28Why?
12:29Well, because I was going to ask him if it was okay for Stephen to be up there.
12:34And at that time, when he looked up and seen that it was me, he raised his hand up over
12:39his head with a tool or something, like he was going to throw it at it.
12:43And he's yelling at us to get that out of there.
12:47Yes.
12:48And so at that point, Jessica was screaming.
12:52I was concerned that he was going to hit me with something or hit Jessica.
12:56So I turned the wave runner and splashy.
13:00Splashy.
13:01What a baloney story.
13:03Went back to camp.
13:04What a baloney story.
13:07I never heard such a baloney story in my life, Ms. McMahon.
13:10You know, if you spend 10 years of your life angry, men fare better physically when they
13:19get angry, you know, when they're angry.
13:21Women get all these nasty lines and they get to look much older than their years.
13:26If you spend so much of your life being bitter, I suggest you get over it.
13:31How much did it cost to fix your boat?
13:34$3,400 and 80 cents.
13:36How much is the boat worth?
13:38Well, it was appraised at $8,000.
13:40Let me see.
13:42The appraisal or the receipt?
13:43Both.
13:43I don't have an appraisal.
13:46Because she had it done, I never got a copy of it.
13:48Just a second.
13:49When did you buy this boat?
13:511976.
13:53Listen to me.
13:53I'm not a stupid person.
13:59The boat's 30 years old.
14:01Show me an appraisal, sir.
14:04I don't have a copy of the appraisal.
14:06How large is this boat?
14:07She can verify the appraisal.
14:09Her appraiser did the work.
14:10Just a minute.
14:11How large is this boat?
14:12It's an 18 foot.
14:13It's a classic V-drive.
14:15It goes up in value.
14:16A classic?
14:17It goes up in value.
14:18Okay.
14:19Let me see the paid bill.
14:23How long was your boat out of commission after this flooding?
14:31All summer.
14:31The rest of the season.
14:32Had it been running prior there, too?
14:34Oh, yes.
14:35Judge Didi?
14:36Yes.
14:36Can I give you a receipt from, a letter from CarQuest that's stating that that invoice that he gave you
14:44is not an invoice that they can locate?
14:48Oh, yeah.
14:48Or that date?
14:49I'd love to see that.
14:50And that they use computer-generated receipts.
14:55Can I see that, please?
15:00I can also show you the...
15:02Shhh.
15:03Can I respond to that as well, without looking at it?
15:21This is brought to my...
15:22I can before I give him a call.
15:23Brought to my attention.
15:25Go ahead.
15:25Brought to my attention this yesterday from the harassing phone call that she made to CarQuest
15:30corporate headquarters.
15:30Now, this is the mechanic that repaired the boat who works for CarQuest, but he uses their
15:36format for his own receipts.
15:38Here's a letter from the mechanic that works for CarQuest.
15:41Just a second.
15:42Let me see it.
15:43It's a private individual that was between him and I.
15:47Well, you're talking about this guy?
15:49Yes.
15:50It has nothing to do with CarQuest.
15:51So, what you're telling me now is that despite the fact that you're using CarQuest invoice,
16:03CarQuest did not do the work on this boat.
16:06Someone who worked for CarQuest did this work for you on his own time.
16:11That's correct.
16:11And just used one of their forms in order to show how much money you spent on the boat.
16:22Is that what you're telling me?
16:23Is that what you're telling me?
16:24That's the receipt he gave me, yeah.
16:25Is that what you're telling me?
16:27That's the receipt he gave me.
16:27And this is what you're giving me.
16:30You didn't tell me that that was the case.
16:33You gave me something with a card, which would lead me to believe, sir, that this company prepared this receipt.
16:45And that's a lie.
16:46Is that right?
16:48I don't know.
16:48He gave me the receipt.
16:49I don't think it's a lie.
16:50Just listen to me.
16:50You just said to me, this is somebody that didn't do it while they were working for CarQuest.
16:55This is somebody who did it on his own time.
16:57He just used one of their invoices.
16:58Well, he used it.
16:59I didn't use it.
16:59It's a discontinued work order from CarQuest that he uses for his own personal use.
17:03You're slippery.
17:06Did you take the boat to CarQuest?
17:09No, I took it to his house.
17:10But he works for CarQuest.
17:11I didn't think anything about it.
17:13You want to know something?
17:14Yes.
17:14I believe that you spent some money to fix this boat.
17:17And I was prepared to rule in your favor.
17:21Because I think that she purposely and maliciously damaged your boat.
17:26That's what you did.
17:27You were angry and you purposely and maliciously damaged his boat.
17:30You flooded it.
17:31You knew you flooded it.
17:33I don't believe your baloney story about making sure that the boat was safe for your 16-year-old son when you went up there with somebody with a camera in hand on a wave runner.
17:42People usually don't do that.
17:43And you went up there to take a picture, according to you, of the boat in the water because you wanted it for the purpose of appraisal.
17:49So I don't believe you.
17:50And I believe that you purposely flooded his boat.
17:53I think that you presented me with a false document.
17:57And people who present courts with false documents don't get cut any slack, Mr. McMahon.
18:05You understand me?
18:06Yes, ma'am.
18:06So you're going to pay for this boat yourself.
18:09Goodbye.
18:11On his art, Stu, you may step out.
18:15I'm just happy that Judge Judy see what he's really like.
18:18Chapter close.
18:19I respect her decision.
18:20This was a fraudulent receipt that he turned into the court and will be taking it to the state of Arizona.
18:26When Larry tells me I'll have a Christmas present, let's hope for that.
18:29I hope it's over soon.
18:30That's all they want.
18:36My father died.
18:38A daughter comes to a mother's rescue.
18:41I wanted to help her out.
18:42Your mother owes you $5,000.
18:44But did a mother's greed leave her daughter penniless?
18:47She never gave you the money back.
18:48Why didn't you give her back the money?
18:49Because first of all, it wasn't a loan.
18:51She gave that to me.
18:53Oh, give me a break.
18:54Judge Judy.
18:55Children take from their parents.
18:57Parents don't take from their children.
18:59Outrageous.
19:00Your conduct is outrageous.
19:01Is suing her mother, homemaker Catherine Welk, for cashing in savings bonds purchased for her by her great-grandmother.
19:09Kristen also claims her mother owes for an unpaid loan.
19:13You're welcome, Judge.
19:14Parties have been sworn in.
19:15You may be seated.
19:16Ladies, have a seat, please.
19:17Ms. Carmichael, this is your mother.
19:19Yes.
19:20How old are you?
19:2119.
19:21Had you always lived with your mother?
19:24Yes.
19:25Until when?
19:27Last September, the end of last September.
19:29According to your complaint, your mother owes you $5,000.
19:34$2,000 of that represents money that she allegedly really stole from you because she cashed in some savings bonds that had been purchased for you by your great-grandmother.
19:45Yes.
19:46She cashed in those bonds and used the money.
19:49Yes.
19:50And in addition, you say that you loaned your mother $3,000 in order to secure the services of an attorney.
19:58She was going through a divorce or separation from her husband.
20:04Shortly thereafter, she reconciled with him and she never gave you the money back.
20:08Your mother says she used the money as her grandmother would have wanted her to use it, the money from your bonds.
20:14And that the $3,000 that she acknowledges that you gave her for an attorney was a gift.
20:20That's your defense.
20:21Is that right?
20:22Yes.
20:23Okay.
20:23When did Kristen's great-grandmother purchase these bonds for her?
20:26She began purchasing them in 1990.
20:29She purchased them for any of her other great-grandchildren?
20:32Yes.
20:33How many?
20:34The two other children.
20:36Your two other children?
20:37Mm-hmm.
20:37How old are those children?
20:39Amanda that's sitting there.
20:41Is how old?
20:42She's 23 and my youngest is 11.
20:45When did you cash in Kristen's bonds and why?
20:49It was right after my grandmother had passed away.
20:52She passed away on March the 9th, 2000.
20:56And why did you cash in Kristen's bonds?
20:58Because at the time that my grandmother passed away, her estate went into probate and they froze all the accounts.
21:06I did not have the funds to pay for her funeral situation.
21:112000 is when your grandmother died.
21:13How many children benefited from her estate, ultimately?
21:17I did.
21:18You.
21:19And in what amount?
21:21When it finished?
21:22When it finished.
21:23That was December 30th.
21:26Yeah, go ahead.
21:27Okay, there was approximately $20,000.
21:30Did you use your other two children's bonds?
21:33The bonds were kept.
21:34We, as far as I know, two other bonds from my youngest daughters were used.
21:39My oldest daughter had already cashed all of her bonds.
21:42How much did you get for your daughter's, this daughter's bonds?
21:44I do not recall.
21:45I don't have the paper for it.
21:47I do.
21:48Can I see it, please?
21:49Yes.
21:5717 bonds, each with a $100 face value.
22:07And if held to maturity, which would have been, a couple of years from now, they would have been worth $1,700.
22:13So, now you had an emergency.
22:17Let us assume, Ms. Welk, you had an emergency.
22:20And while I'm not condoning the fact that you took your daughter's bonds and cashed them in at a much lesser value than you would have gotten had they been held to maturity,
22:27why didn't you replace them when you got $20,000 from your grandmother's estate?
22:33At the time that all of this occurred, we had all of these other things going on.
22:39When all of this changed, we also had no place to live.
22:43The house was sold because it was in this whole situation.
22:46We then had to move.
22:48Taking Kristen with us, after all of that was done, I didn't even remember this entire situation
22:56until this divorce situation came up in 2003.
23:00Well, you owe us $1,700, period, for the bonds.
23:05Outrageous.
23:05Your conduct is outrageous.
23:06That's one.
23:07Number two, your daughter says that she loaned you $3,000.
23:12Why did you loan your mother $3,000?
23:15Because her and my stepfather were going.
23:17He served her with papers for divorce, and I wanted to help her out.
23:22She came to me and asked me to borrow $3,000.
23:24Where did you get $3,000 from?
23:27I got it.
23:27I worked at a gymnastics place, and I got money from there, and my father died.
23:33And I received Social Security checks every month.
23:36Do you put the Social Security checks away?
23:38Yes, I put them into my bank account.
23:40Let me see the bank account.
23:43That's the bank statement.
23:44On June 18th, she transferred $3,000 into your checking account.
23:55Is that correct?
23:56Yes.
23:57And that was for the purposes of securing an attorney in your matrimonial case?
24:01Correct.
24:02And then, according to your answer, within a week, you and your husband reconciled.
24:07Right.
24:08Why didn't you give her back the money?
24:09Because, first of all, it wasn't a loan.
24:12She gave that to me, hoping to be able to end this situation and move us back to Stockton,
24:18where her friends were.
24:19Just a second.
24:20Did you come to her and ask her for money to go to an attorney?
24:24No, ma'am.
24:25What was the $3,000 to be used for?
24:28It was used for the attorney.
24:30Just a second.
24:31Are you telling me that you gave the attorney $3,000,
24:35and within a week's time, the attorney would not give you back the $3,000?
24:39Is that what you're telling me?
24:40I can show you what he's...
24:41No, no, listen to me very carefully.
24:43Don't show me anything.
24:45Are you telling me that she gave you the $3,000 for the purposes of securing an attorney,
24:51that you gave the attorney a retainer of $3,000 within days you reconciled with your husband,
24:58and are you telling me the attorney did not give you your retainer or most of it back?
25:03I'm going to call the attorney.
25:04I have it right now.
25:05I'm going to call the attorney because I have to...
25:07Because you understand, don't you, that that would be unethical for the attorney
25:12to have kept the $3,000 if the attorney did no work.
25:16He returned $889 of the $3,000.
25:21And I have his bill here if you would like to see how he used it.
25:26Sure, give it to me.
25:28Well, let me ask you this question.
25:31How much of the $800 that you claimed the attorney gave you back did you give to your daughter?
25:37I asked you a question.
25:39How much of the $800 that he gave you back did you give to your daughter?
25:43I didn't.
25:44You're some piece of work.
25:47Judge Judy continues in a moment.
25:49Children take from their parents.
25:52Parents don't take from their children.
25:55And later today...
25:56When I found out that he was having a baby with the other lady,
25:59I asked him if he was going to be with me or her, and he couldn't tell me.
26:05You couldn't make up your mind.
26:06Correct.
26:07Couldn't find your mind.
26:0819-year-old Kristen Carmichael says her mother, Catherine Welk,
26:14cashed in savings bonds purchased for her by her great-grandmother.
26:18Catherine says Kristen gave her that money.
26:20Is this June 18th, 2003 or 2004 that you gave this money to your mother?
26:262003.
26:272003.
26:28And your mother says that within a couple of days or within a week she reconciled with her husband.
26:36Then what is all this stuff here from September of 2003 from the attorney?
26:43If you reconciled with your husband, why is he still doing things in September of 2003?
26:48I questioned him also.
26:50Oh, give me a break.
26:52Give me a break.
26:53Has absolutely nothing to do with this case.
26:55You owe your daughter $3,000.
26:56For that, you owe your daughter $1,700 for the bonds.
26:59$4,700.
27:01Listen.
27:03Children take from their parents.
27:05Parents don't take from their children.
27:08You're supposed to...
27:09If you bury your grandmother, it's your responsibility.
27:13It's not her responsibility.
27:14If you get the money back, which you did, which you clearly did immediately,
27:18if you had an emergency, you reimburse your daughter.
27:21And if you're having a problem with your husband,
27:23and if your daughter is nice enough to give you money because you asked for it,
27:27for an attorney, and if within a week you reconcile,
27:30then you say, honey, here's your $3,000 back that you've been working for.
27:34I wouldn't take that money from you.
27:35Instead of giving her a whole bunch of excuses,
27:38judge me for the plaintiff in the amount of $4,700.
27:40Parents are excused.
27:42You may step out.
27:42Back in here.
27:43That was my money that I loaned to my mom.
27:45I didn't come to her asking for it.
27:47She gave it to me.
27:48She needed to pay me back.
27:49And all it's done is teach me a lesson
27:51that my youngest daughter will pay the price for this daughter.
27:54We got into an argument over something absolutely ridiculous,
27:57and we got into a confrontation, and she kicked me out.
28:00It's very difficult.
28:01I have worried day in and day out since she left our house,
28:03not knowing where she is or how she is.
28:05She does not care about any of us.
28:07I would like us to have a mother-daughter relationship,
28:09but I don't know.
28:10And now the-
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