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00:00driver Sean Campbell for a money loan. Sean says Eric is trying to break up his marriage.
00:05He is counter-suing for slander and harassment.
00:10Order. All rise.
00:17This is case number 161 on the calendar in the matter of Laughlin versus Campbell.
00:23Probably has been sworn in, Judge. You may be seated.
00:25Miss Laughlin, you dated the defendant for a brief period of time. He was married at the time,
00:33and you claim a series of loans. While he says he does acknowledge that you gave him some money,
00:40$1,600, you say it was substantially more than that. He said that that was a gift.
00:44He also has a counter-claim for some nonsense that I'll get to in a minute. When did you meet him?
00:49I met him in September of 2001.
00:52Where?
00:52Where? At Atlantis Nightclub in Reno, Nevada.
00:55And when did you start dating?
00:57We started dating soon thereafter.
01:00When did you find out he was married?
01:01I found out in a phone conversation about a week after that.
01:08Your Honor, that's a lie.
01:10When did you meet?
01:11Same date, she told you. In the evening.
01:14Okay, because you say in your answer that you met New Year's, 2002.
01:18Right.
01:18Well, what do you mean, right? Was it September or was it in December?
01:23It was in September.
01:24So you made a mistake?
01:25Yes.
01:26You're not going to make any more mistakes?
01:28I hope not.
01:29Good. When do you say you told her you were married?
01:31I told her that night at the nightclub.
01:33Did you tell her you were separated from your wife?
01:35Yes, I did.
01:36Okay. When was the first time that you loaned him money?
01:40January 25th of 2002.
01:44How much and for what?
01:46I loaned him $2,060.
01:50And it was for a car title loan.
01:53He had a negative checking account, bounced checks.
01:56He needed a vehicle.
01:58So I loaned him $500 to buy a vehicle from his brother.
02:02Yeah. Well, where's the $2,060?
02:04I have it on here on my statements.
02:08It's my statements that show the actual amounts of money that I loaned him.
02:13Let me see what you're talking about.
02:14Your Honor, I never received any loan.
02:16Just a shh, Mr. Campbell.
02:18I let you shout out once.
02:20It's the last time.
02:21The yellow...
02:22Just a second. Wait, wait, wait.
02:24The yellow marks are his?
02:26The yellow marks are the chunks of money that I loaned him.
02:30No, no, no, no, no, no.
02:31The large cash advances.
02:32No, no, no. This is Denny's, Sports Bar, Hilton Hotels.
02:36If you look at the yellow tabs, ma'am, those are the large chunks of money.
02:41Those other things were things we did together.
02:43Basically, I was supporting the whole relationship.
02:46So what? I don't care if you were supporting the whole relationship.
02:48That's your business.
02:49You brought this thing.
02:50Do you expect this as part of your lawsuit to be reimbursed to you?
02:54The yellow ones, I do, because those were large sums of money that I paid off the bills,
02:58and I have the actual bounce checks.
02:59Just a minute. What's C&W Atlantis Casino in Reno?
03:02That's where we met.
03:05$634.99.
03:07That's correct. I obtained a cash advance that date, which was...
03:11For what?
03:11It was for his storage unit. It was in the rears, and he asked if I would help him.
03:16At it from a casino? You got this money at a casino to give him?
03:19I obtained the cash advance at a casino, yes, ma'am.
03:22Pepper Mill front desk, Reno.
03:24That's correct.
03:25$165.
03:26What is that?
03:27That was actually a party that his friends had in our room.
03:29We had obtained a room to spend the night together, and when we came back...
03:33Is this part of your lawsuit?
03:34His friends...
03:35Is this part of your lawsuit?
03:37Yes.
03:37Forget it.
03:38Okay.
03:38I want you to forget all the orange tabs, all the blue tabs, all this stuff.
03:44You decide to support this relationship by going out for dinner, by taking out small amounts of money, $100, $200, $500.
03:54Don't come crying to me. That's your stupidity.
03:57If you made a loan to him, then I'm prepared to hear it.
04:00Now, you say you loaned him $2,060 for something for his car and title?
04:04Yes, ma'am.
04:05Was that in one lump sum?
04:07Yes, it is. It's the first cash advance that you will find on that statement that's marked yellow.
04:13It's $2,000 plus a $60 finance charge.
04:16Yes.
04:17Okay.
04:17And we pay...
04:17Now, Mr. Campbell.
04:19Yeah.
04:19Let's come to you. Be very careful about your answer, sir. Did there come a time when you had some problems with something that had to do with your car and you needed $2,000?
04:30No. I did not need $2,000 for my car title.
04:33Did she give you $2,000?
04:34No, she never gave me $2,000. She gave me $1,600, Your Honor.
04:38When?
04:39I believe it was about two months after we started dating.
04:43Tell me about it.
04:44All right. We were driving around and she said she wanted to go out of town for the weekend.
04:49And, you know, I was driving her car and we pulled up to the bank at her bank.
04:53I asked her, you know, what are we doing here?
04:56And she said, you need this money to pay off your car.
04:59And I told her specifically, you know, I didn't want to do it because I, you know, wasn't employed at the time and I didn't have the money to pay you back.
05:07That's a lie, Your Honor.
05:08No, no, no.
05:09And anyways, Your Honor, she insisted, you know, saying that I love you, don't worry about it, you know.
05:16So you're driving around going away for a weekend. Is that right?
05:19Exactly.
05:19And she pulled up in front of... Come on, continue.
05:22We pulled up in front of the bank and we had a, you know, small argument about the money.
05:27And I told her, if you wanted to give me the money, that was fine. I would take it.
05:31But I could not take it if it was a loan because I could not pay you back.
05:35She's still in the car at this time.
05:37Right.
05:37Is that right?
05:38And you said, no, I can't pay you back.
05:40Exactly.
05:40And she said, no, I insist that you take the money because I want to help you.
05:44Right.
05:44Now, did both of you get out of the car to go to the cash machine?
05:47No, just there.
05:48And she was gone for a few minutes and she came back into the car?
05:51What happened when she got back into the car?
05:53She got in the car and, you know, she asked me for my wallet.
05:57And I said, what for?
05:58And she says, just give me your wallet.
05:59So I gave her my wallet and she put $1,600 cash in my wallet and said, here, here's, you
06:04know, for whatever you need to take care of.
06:06And I told her, are you sure this is what you want to do?
06:09Because that's on you.
06:10You know, I can't give you the money back.
06:12I can't promise you I'll give you the money back.
06:14And she said, no, don't worry about it.
06:15I love you.
06:16I just want to be with you and I want to be, you know, you to be happy.
06:20Okay.
06:20Shh.
06:21Don't say anything.
06:22Did you, in fact, go away that weekend?
06:24We did.
06:25We left that later that evening.
06:27Where did you go on your weekend?
06:28We went to Fort Bragg.
06:30You went to Fort Bragg?
06:31Fort Bragg, California.
06:32What did you do there?
06:33Just hung out.
06:35Okay.
06:35Had she picked you up at your house, sir, or did you pick her up?
06:39She picked me up.
06:40What time of the day did she pick you up?
06:42It was early in the morning.
06:44And she drove you directly over to the bank?
06:47Not at that time.
06:48And, you know, we hung out and we're doing things and whatnot.
06:51And, you know, later on in the afternoon, she came up with the idea.
06:55But you had a pleasant morning together.
06:57Yeah.
06:57I want you to do me a favor.
06:59I want you to, in a moment, get me the name of the best psychiatrist that we can find here.
07:05Because this man clearly is psychotic.
07:10Judge Judy continues in a moment.
07:12She had given, you know, came over to my house in the middle of the night.
07:15Right.
07:16And how much did she give you in the middle of the night?
07:18She never gave me anything in the middle of the night.
07:19Well, then why did you say she did?
07:21What was in your mind?
07:22I loved him.
07:23Oh.
07:24I know.
07:25Oh.
07:28Real cases.
07:30Real people.
07:31Judge Judy.
07:31Erica Laughlin says ex-boyfriend Sean Campbell owes for a series of unpaid loans.
07:37Sean says the money was a gift.
07:39He is countersuing for slander and harassment.
07:42Okay.
07:43Bird, I want to read you what he swore to in his answer about this $1,600.
07:48May I, for a moment, I want you to indulge me.
07:51I have no idea.
07:52Mr. Campbell, I want you to indulge me.
07:54Stand up and get your hands off there.
07:58We dated for a total of a month and a half, and I told her I wanted to end the relationship
08:03because I had to concentrate on my divorce and getting a new job.
08:06About a month later, she showed up drunk at my house in the middle of the night.
08:11She begged me to get back together with her and told me she would take care of my bills.
08:15I told her I wouldn't be able to take her back, and she said she was doing it because
08:19she loved me and wanted to see me happy.
08:21At this time, she gave me $1,600 in cash.
08:24Duh!
08:26Yeah, it's true.
08:28What do you mean?
08:28This is true?
08:29So she gave you $3,200.
08:30She gave you $1,600 when she showed up at your house drunk one night, and she gave you
08:35another $1,600 when you were driving around on your way to Fort Bragg?
08:39Is that what you're telling me?
08:40No, Your Honor.
08:40Well, which story is correct, Mr. Campbell?
08:43The story that you just told me, that you were driving around.
08:47She went to an ATM.
08:48She took out the money.
08:50Just listen to this.
08:50Listen to how careful he is.
08:51She asked me for my wallet.
08:53I took out my wallet.
08:54She put in $1,600, or this psychotic, drunk woman shows up in his house in the middle
09:00of the night and takes out $1,600 and puts it in his wallet.
09:03Which story is correct, sir?
09:06Your Honor.
09:06No, just, I want you to tell me which story is correct.
09:10The one you swore to here, or the one you just told me?
09:14The one I just told you, Your Honor.
09:17Now, how am I supposed to tell which one is true, sir?
09:19This one you swore to.
09:21Now, you may have written your answer some time ago, but I assume if you did it some
09:27time ago, then your memory was fresher of the events than it is now at some later time.
09:34So, how am I supposed to believe anything that you say, Mr. Campbell?
09:37Try to explain that to me.
09:38Your Honor.
09:39Mr. Campbell.
09:40We had met at the nightclub.
09:47Forget the nightclub.
09:48We're past the nightclub, sir.
09:50We're at the $1,600.
09:51Was she drunk in the middle of the night when she gave it to you, or were you sitting in
09:55a car on your way on a vacation when she gave it to you?
09:57We were sitting in her car.
09:59After she came out from the bank, she got in the passenger seat and gave me the $1,600.
10:04Actually, she put the $1,600 in me.
10:05Well, where did you get this business with her being drunk in the middle of the night?
10:09That was another time.
10:10Another $1,600?
10:12Go ahead.
10:13She had given, you know, came over to my house in the middle of the night, harassing
10:17me, saying that she wanted to get back together.
10:19Right.
10:19And how much did she give you in the middle of the night?
10:21She never gave me anything in the middle of the night.
10:22Well, then why did you say she did?
10:24Why did you swear to the fact that she did?
10:28I didn't.
10:29I didn't.
10:31Listen.
10:31When did he tell you he was married?
10:33He told me he was married probably two weeks after we met.
10:36The first time we met, he said that he was single.
10:38Two weeks.
10:39But you gave him this money well after the two weeks.
10:41Right.
10:42So what were you doing?
10:42What was in your mind?
10:44I loved him.
10:45I wanted to help him.
10:47I know.
10:49I know.
10:50What do you want from me?
10:52Did he go back to his wife?
10:53Yes, he did.
10:55Yeah.
10:55Yeah.
10:56He did.
10:56He went back to his wife, and I have a broken heart.
10:59So, you know, there you have it.
11:00A broken heart and a depleted bank account.
11:02That's correct, ma'am.
11:02And the only money you're going to get from him is the $1,600.
11:06Ma'am, I have him on tape.
11:08That said what?
11:09That says he owes me the money.
11:10Oh, good.
11:11I want to see how much does he say he owes you.
11:13Maybe that'll help me.
11:14He doesn't say how much, but he does admit to it.
11:17Can I play it?
11:17Sure.
11:18Hey, it's me.
11:19I don't know why he's not interested at home, but I'm just going to let you know that I
11:26told you I would try to pay you money whenever possible.
11:29I've been having a lot of problems with a lot of stuff.
11:32You know, my work cut my hours, and not making as much as I thought I was.
11:37So, just to let you know, I haven't been missing you.
11:39I have not been trying to ignore you.
11:41I've just been here.
11:43I've been cat-covered, dog-covered, and, you know, as soon as I can get any money that's
11:49extra, I will give to you.
11:51I don't have a problem with that.
11:53And, you know, for what it's worth, you know, I am sorry for not trying to pay off anything
11:58sooner.
11:59But, like I said, I've had problems, you know, I hope you understand that I do have
12:03other responsibilities, too, just like you or anybody else, but I'm trying the best I
12:09can do, you know, and that's all I can say.
12:13As far as you want to hear me, then as far as you want to hear me, I'm going to talk to
12:17you.
12:17Turn it off.
12:21So?
12:23That wasn't about this, Your Honor.
12:25That was about something completely different.
12:26Well, tell me what it's about.
12:27She had bought me some cigarettes, and she was mad because she was broke one weekend.
12:32This is about a carton of cigarettes?
12:34That's about a couple hundred dollars in cigarettes, yeah.
12:37Is that in addition to the $1,600 she gave you?
12:39Um, she had bought me on her own.
12:41There's no such word as boughten.
12:43She had bought.
12:44That's better.
12:45You're welcome.
12:46Is that in addition to the $1,600 she gave you?
12:49No, it's not.
12:51So that's included in the $1,600?
12:53Yes, it is.
12:54You know, he doesn't understand.
12:55Oh, I'm sorry.
12:56Did you go to school in this country?
12:58Yes, I did.
12:59She gave you $1,600.
13:01You say that this is about something else, about other money that you owed her, and it
13:05was about cigarettes, because it says here, I'll pay you back as soon as I can.
13:08I have other expenses.
13:09So this is not part of the $1,600.
13:12I never owed her $1,600 in the first place.
13:14That's my decision, sir.
13:16That's my decision as to whether or not you owe her $1,600.
13:19I owed her roughly $200 in cigarettes.
13:22What did you get $200 in cigarettes for?
13:24Just without the time that we were together.
13:27That's, you know, what she had bought for me, you know, when we were together.
13:32Now I'd like to hear about your counterclaim.
13:34Pardon?
13:35Counterclaim!
13:37You filed a counterclaim, sir.
13:39During the whole time after, you know, I left her, she was constantly harassing me and
13:44my wife, calling me at work.
13:45Tell me how she was doing that, sir.
13:46She was calling my work out, you know, all the time.
13:49She had her roommate's boyfriend call me up at work, telling, you know, asking me questions
13:55why I left her, and...
13:56Anybody asking you about money?
13:59No.
14:00Oh.
14:00Never.
14:01I didn't hear anything about any money until a month and a half, almost, after I had left
14:07her.
14:08Yes, and what happened a month and a half?
14:10She sent me a letter demanding that, you know, I was committing, I believe, fraud, and
14:16that I owed her...
14:16May I see the copy of the letter?
14:18Do you want one copy or all three that I sent to him?
14:20Over $4,000.
14:22And that's the receipt on top.
14:26Don't get crazed with these little Post-its.
14:34Just trying to be prepared.
14:38I'm interested in something, Ms. Laughlin.
14:40Yes.
14:41You say in these letters that he owes you $4,200, and you're suing him for $5,000.
14:45Why?
14:45There has been charges that have incurred since that time, and I've just added on the interest
14:52as...
14:52You had never had an agreement with him with regard to repayment.
14:55We did have an agreement when he was saying that we had agreed to go.
14:59I went to the bank and just decided to get the money that day.
15:01That night before, he stayed at my house, and we had decided I would obtain the money
15:07to loan him.
15:07How much money did you take out of the bank at that time?
15:10Was it $1,600 or $2,000?
15:12$2,060.
15:13That was the $2,060 amount.
15:15That's correct, ma'am.
15:16Right.
15:16We had made that agreement.
15:18I did give him $1,600 for his wallet so that we could go around town and pay his various
15:23bills.
15:24And your counterclaim, shh, your counterclaim is for this harassment that she keeps calling
15:30you.
15:30That's correct.
15:31She called your wife.
15:32Were you present when she called your wife?
15:34I was not.
15:35What did she say to you when she called you?
15:36She told me that she had followed her twice.
15:37I'm not interested in what your wife told you.
15:39That's hearsay.
15:40I would like you to tell me what she said to you to harass you.
15:44Just that she would do anything and everything to get her money.
15:49And, you know, before she even, you know, pursued me with any money, you know, she was
15:54telling me and my wife that she would do anything and everything to get me back in the
15:58first place, that she loved me, and she didn't care what it took.
16:01Listen, because she has bad taste, I can't hold that against her, sir.
16:04Judgment for the plaintiff and the amount of $2,060, that's all.
16:09If I'm excused, you may step out.
16:11She just wanted to get me back.
16:12She's jealous that I went back to my wife.
16:14I believe the judge realized that he's a liar.
16:17Be careful who you date.
16:18Don't ever get involved with a married man.
16:21And now, the next case.
16:23All parties in the matter of Matzko versus Davila, step forward, please.
16:27Hater Rich Matzko is suing ex-girlfriend, 25-year-old schoolteacher Julianne Davila for
16:34breaking an apartment lease.
16:35Mr. Matzko, you and the defendant dated for a while.
16:38Then, according to your complaint, you were going to move in together.
16:41In order for you to do that, she had to break her lease.
16:44Yes.
16:44And also do a pet deposit where you were living?
16:47No, where she was living.
16:48Where she was living.
16:49Yeah.
16:49And the whole thing came to about $2,600.
16:51Is that right?
16:52Yes.
16:53Well, she moved in.
16:54Didn't last.
16:55She moved out.
16:55You say that this money was a loan.
16:57You want your money back, right?
16:59Yes.
16:59You say he wanted you to move in with him?
17:03Yes.
17:04You had a lease?
17:05Yes.
17:05He said, break it.
17:07Let me see if I can put this together, make the story myself, because, you know, it's
17:11late and I have other things to do today.
17:13He said, break the lease.
17:17And you said to him?
17:18I didn't want to.
17:20And he said to you?
17:21Move in with me.
17:22It'll be fine.
17:23And you said to him, it will cost me?
17:25$2,600.
17:27And you said, I don't have?
17:30The money.
17:30And he said to you?
17:33That he wouldn't pay?
17:34Shut up, quiet, please.
17:35I can't hear it testifying.
17:36Go ahead.
17:37He said that he would pay it for me.
17:38Right.
17:39To break it.
17:39And that's what happened?
17:40Yes.
17:41And you did that?
17:42Yes, I did.
17:43And you moved in with him?
17:44Yes.
17:45And how long did this romance last after you moved in?
17:48Not even more than two weeks.
17:49Yeah.
17:50Two weeks.
17:50You didn't get your $2,600 worth, right?
17:53No.
17:55That's the way it goes.
17:56Your case is dismissed.
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