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00:00:00But everyone's been so excited about you being here, and I'm also equally thrilled to have

00:00:05you here.

00:00:06Aw, thank you.

00:00:07Julia Ann, how are you?

00:00:09I'm good.

00:00:09How are you?

00:00:10I'm great.

00:00:11Nice.

00:00:12It's so nice to have you here.

00:00:14You look amazing.

00:00:15I said that before we started, but you really do.

00:00:17You look happy.

00:00:18I am.

00:00:19You are happy.

00:00:19You just got married recently, right?

00:00:21I did, January 1st.

00:00:22Wow.

00:00:23And did you get married in Hawaii?

00:00:25Hawaii.

00:00:25You looked like you were somewhere tropical.

00:00:26Yeah, Hawaii.

00:00:27It was just me and him and my girlfriend and my other girlfriend, Jenna Fox.

00:00:35Jenna, she's so sweet.

00:00:36The funniest thing ever.

00:00:39She's a riot.

00:00:40She's hilarious.

00:00:41Hilarious because she doesn't mean to be.

00:00:43Yeah.

00:00:45I had to drop her off at your house the other day because we were shooting a scene for Twisties

00:00:51and we were using sparklers in the scene, and I guess the smoke from the sparklers made

00:00:55both her and Molly Stewart, very sick.

00:00:58To be fair, like she was sick.

00:00:59Like she was sick.

00:01:00No, they were both super sick.

00:01:02Like I've never seen.

00:01:04She's one of these people.

00:01:06She's like a really rare breed in the world of working period, let alone our industry.

00:01:11But you could call her right now and be like, oh my God, I had a cancellation.

00:01:14Can you be here in 30 minutes?

00:01:15She'd be like, I'll be right there.

00:01:17Like it's like the weirdest thing.

00:01:19Like she could, it doesn't matter.

00:01:20Like she can do it.

00:01:22Like she can muster it up no matter what's happening.

00:01:25And so when she came in and I literally poured her into a bed, like she could hardly see, hardly.

00:01:34It was really kind of intense.

00:01:36I was like, wow, I've never really seen you like this.

00:01:40I know.

00:01:40I mean, I had to drive her car to your place.

00:01:43I was really worried about the two of them.

00:01:44I know, I was supposed to drive you back and then she's like, no, she wanted to take a new Uber.

00:01:48And I was like, well, she doesn't want to get in my car.

00:01:50I got it.

00:01:51Yeah.

00:01:51I didn't want to get in your car because I don't want to spend any time with you.

00:01:54So instead I invited you on my podcast.

00:01:57I just, it was like fucking midnight.

00:02:00I didn't want you to have to drive me back.

00:02:01I know, but I just.

00:02:02I was up.

00:02:03I was ready to come get her.

00:02:04I was ready to come get her.

00:02:06I was like, I didn't want to, what do we need to do?

00:02:07Like what's happening?

00:02:09Yeah.

00:02:10All right.

00:02:10I like how we spent like the first like five minutes of this podcast talking about Jenna Fox,

00:02:14but she is amazing.

00:02:15I do love her.

00:02:16Excuse me.

00:02:17Like she lived with me for almost two years.

00:02:19Well, no, for two years.

00:02:21So, um, yeah, there's a lot to talk about.

00:02:24It makes total sense.

00:02:25I'd be like, what's new with you, Jenna Fox?

00:02:27What's old with you, Jenna Fox?

00:02:29What's current, Jenna Fox?

00:02:32Oh my gosh.

00:02:33So Julia Ann.

00:02:35Yes.

00:02:36Um, I guess let's start from the beginning.

00:02:38Um, how did you get started in the industry?

00:02:42Um, well, let's see.

00:02:44Uh, my goodness.

00:02:46Uh, Janine was feature dancing.

00:02:48She was a penthouse pet.

00:02:49She said, I don't want to feature dance by myself anymore.

00:02:52Uh, let's do this thing called the duo act.

00:02:54And I was like, what's that?

00:02:56And she's like, you know, we're going to go to strip clubs and we're going to dance together

00:02:59and put on a show and we're going to get paid.

00:03:02And how did you know Janine?

00:03:04Um, because her husband at the time was the singer in a band that my ex-boyfriend was the

00:03:12drummer in.

00:03:13Okay.

00:03:14So yeah, like that's how that all came down.

00:03:17Okay.

00:03:17It was rather, it was organic, you know, like a thing.

00:03:20And, uh, we were like 18 and 19.

00:03:25And, um, so in like 91, I was like, fine, I'll do it.

00:03:32I'll do it.

00:03:32So we called ourselves Blondage.

00:03:34And about a year into that, I recognized that the porn girls were commanding more money

00:03:42on the road, blah, blah, blah.

00:03:44And so I said, you know, I'm thinking about kind of getting into porn.

00:03:48And she said, Oh my God, it just so happened that this director named Andrew Blake asked

00:03:53me if I would do a porn.

00:03:54Let's do it.

00:03:55And then we did hidden obsessions and there you go.

00:03:59And this was the scene.

00:04:01I remember, I watched this when I was under the age of 18 under, I was, I, yes, I was not

00:04:09one plus eight.

00:04:10Um, and that was the scene with the ice dildo, right?

00:04:14Yeah.

00:04:14I remember, Oh my God.

00:04:16I so remember that scene.

00:04:18And I remember thinking like that has got to be really cold.

00:04:22How, how was that?

00:04:24Cause you guys played it off and it was so beautiful.

00:04:27And Andrew was like such, you know, so legendary in his, the way he artistically, um, created

00:04:32these, these porn, um, scenes.

00:04:35And a lot of people these days don't know who he is, but he truly was like one of the innovators

00:04:39for that, that kind of like artsy, erotic stuff.

00:04:42Um, but I remember thinking to myself, I'm like, that couldn't have been comfortable.

00:04:46No, it was very, very, very cold.

00:04:48They had like a five of them.

00:04:51Uh, we didn't have molds at the time.

00:04:53So we had like five of them sculptured or whatever it made.

00:04:56And, uh, they were in the freezer of this house and each time one would melt down to a

00:05:01certain point and we pulled the next one out and we'd start again.

00:05:04And, uh, yeah, they were fricking cold, cold.

00:05:07Um, was your vagina like completely numb?

00:05:10No, you know what?

00:05:11No, because you, you know, you do something for a second and then you stop.

00:05:14Yeah.

00:05:14Right.

00:05:15So then you're like, you never really get numb.

00:05:18Yeah.

00:05:18But you know, your, your labia and your, all that tissue down there is not the same as the

00:05:26tissue, like on your hands and stuff like that.

00:05:29Right.

00:05:29So, um, what hurt more were, were my hands from holding it because of all the nerve endings

00:05:37holding it.

00:05:38Yeah.

00:05:39Where even if you stop shooting for a second, you pull it away, you're still holding it.

00:05:43So somebody had to keep running by with a towel and pulling it out of our hands in between

00:05:48takes.

00:05:48Um, and then there was like a bucket of warm water and so we could put our hands in it and

00:05:54okay, it was, it was cold.

00:05:56It was like a whole.

00:05:57Yeah.

00:05:57And then one of them became a shard and she got cut and yeah, no, it was a thing.

00:06:03Like it was a thing.

00:06:04Wow.

00:06:05All in the name of art.

00:06:06Well, it came out beautiful.

00:06:08Thanks.

00:06:09So, um, blondage was like a pretty big thing.

00:06:12I mean, it's definitely something that you're really well known for.

00:06:16Um, you traveled all over the place, did that, and then you got into porn and then, so you

00:06:22did shot for Andrew Blake and then where did you go from there?

00:06:25Uh, from Andrew Blake, I did more Andrew Blake and, uh, um, because I, uh, the production manager

00:06:34actually for Andrew Blake is who I kind of stuck with and her husband, um, was a director called

00:06:41Freddie Lincoln and so I spent the better part of, uh, my career with Andrew Blake and

00:06:49Freddie Lincoln.

00:06:50Okay.

00:06:51Um, and who did Freddie direct for?

00:06:53Like, um, gosh, Metro, uh, Caballero, um, Sin City, like every, like all of those, you

00:07:05know, like there was, it was pretty much everybody.

00:07:08Yeah.

00:07:09All the big, like all the big studios.

00:07:11Yeah.

00:07:12Yeah.

00:07:12So, um, yeah, I just did, I worked for him and with him and, uh, that was it.

00:07:19And then I went to vivid and I was with vivid for X amount of time.

00:07:25And then from vivid, I went to digital playground, which I ran with my tail between my legs because

00:07:32it's changed hands just so everybody knows.

00:07:35But at the time, like they were horrible, horrible, horrible people.

00:07:40And then, uh, so I, I left, which was great because they told my agent at the time, they

00:07:46were like, she's acting like she doesn't want to be here.

00:07:48And he said, funny, she mentioned it cause she doesn't want to be here.

00:07:50Oh my God.

00:07:52Yeah.

00:07:53The old, the old people that ran digital playground fought with us too.

00:07:57They were tough.

00:07:58We had a big fight with them over Tara Patrick.

00:08:00Actually, they sent us, um, cause there was some, you know, Tara, I think was trying to

00:08:05get out of her contract and my mom had shot her.

00:08:09Um, and then I think Tara wanted to shoot again, but like, we weren't sure if she was still

00:08:14under contract.

00:08:14So I think we, we asked them cause we didn't want to get in the middle of some like kind

00:08:18of legal battle cause they were very litigious and they sent us a letter basically saying

00:08:24that like Tara Patrick was still under contract and if we were to shoot her, they would sue

00:08:29us.

00:08:29It was this very nasty letter.

00:08:30My mom framed it and hung it in the bathroom of her studio.

00:08:37Yeah, it is so her.

00:08:39She was like, fuck you.

00:08:42But yeah, digital playground is now owned by mind geek, completely different people.

00:08:47So we're not talking about the current company that runs central, but no, back then they were

00:08:53pretty tough.

00:08:53And, uh, in fact, they, they loved rumors.

00:08:57I don't know if you remember this, but they, they loved any, any publicity was good publicity.

00:09:01And so they would literally say vile things for publicity.

00:09:05It was like the weirdest thing.

00:09:06And they would just pit the girls against each other for publicity.

00:09:09It's so strange.

00:09:11So, um, all of a sudden I hear rumors that I broke into their studio.

00:09:17I stole tapes that I was in and then I lit them on fire in their bathroom.

00:09:24And I was like, have you guys ever seen their place?

00:09:26Like they had barbed wire rings around the top of the chain link fence.

00:09:32And how am I, am I mission impossible?

00:09:35Like, I could just see me like, like, like what's happening?

00:09:40Like scaling chain link in order to, and, and barbed wire in order to get into a, uh, studio

00:09:47that has iron doors to get into safes in order to then just light them on fire in the sink.

00:09:55Like, I don't understand.

00:09:57Or that I attacked Tara Patrick with like a lit curling iron and I set her hotel room on

00:10:03fire.

00:10:03Like what I do now, there's a little truth to that.

00:10:11I'll give him that.

00:10:12Oh, okay.

00:10:13But, but this is, but this is the truth.

00:10:16We were getting ready in her room.

00:10:18We were in France.

00:10:20I had, um, the thing that, that you can plug in your curling iron, but I didn't have the

00:10:25thing to dumb down the wattage.

00:10:28Okay.

00:10:29Yeah.

00:10:29Cause you're on different, um, frequent, not frequencies, but yeah.

00:10:32Cause you're in Europe.

00:10:33Yeah.

00:10:33So, so in Europe, like their electricity is super, super, super strong.

00:10:38Yes.

00:10:39So even if you can get the plug that the, that you can plug it in, you're supposed to

00:10:44get this other thing that like takes their electricity and makes it less than.

00:10:48Yeah.

00:10:48Converts it.

00:10:49Yeah.

00:10:49For your appliance.

00:10:51Well, I didn't have that.

00:10:52So I plugged it into the thing and the thing took my, my, my curling iron, I pick it up

00:10:58from the floor.

00:10:59It has burned a hole in the carpet in the floor.

00:11:02And when I pick it up, the barrel on it turns down, slides, like it melted.

00:11:09Yes.

00:11:10Slides off the wires, which the wires are sparking and they're like, and I'm like, Oh my God.

00:11:17And I throw it, of course, into the trash can.

00:11:21Cause I'm not terribly bright.

00:11:23And so now they're like, the trash can starts smoldering and I'm freaking out.

00:11:30So that's the story.

00:11:33So was there a curling iron?

00:11:34Yes.

00:11:35Was there a burn in a carpet?

00:11:38Yes.

00:11:39Was there actually a fire?

00:11:40No.

00:11:41Did I attack her?

00:11:42No, we were getting ready together in her room.

00:11:45And I had to pay the hotel $500 to replace the part of the carpet.

00:11:50Wow.

00:11:51Yeah.

00:11:52So, but they liked that, like that thing and, uh, just couldn't.

00:11:57So I ran with my tail between my legs.

00:11:59I was like, I'm out of here.

00:12:00You guys are morally reprehensible.

00:12:02So then, so then I, I went to, um, so then I was with, uh, Wicked for a long time and then

00:12:10I went on my own.

00:12:11And I got to say that was the best time, uh, of my career is when I ventured out on my

00:12:20own.

00:12:21Now, when you say much fun, me, you say you ventured on your own.

00:12:24What'd you do?

00:12:24Did you start your own website?

00:12:26Did you shoot freelance for other people?

00:12:28Like, no, I mean, I don't, I already had my website, but it was just all of a sudden

00:12:32I was able to meet after God from 91.

00:12:38So figure like a good 15, 17 years.

00:12:44I didn't meet three quarters of the industry.

00:12:47I was in a bubble.

00:12:48Yeah.

00:12:49Right.

00:12:50So now all of a sudden, you know, I'm walking on set and there's people like going, Oh my

00:12:54God.

00:12:54Hi.

00:12:55We've never worked.

00:12:56Hi.

00:12:56Who are you?

00:12:57Like, you know, and it's like, Oh, well I'm, you know, Quasar.

00:13:02Right.

00:13:03Like I didn't know Mike.

00:13:04I didn't know him for anything.

00:13:06Yeah.

00:13:06Um, I didn't know Mick blue.

00:13:09I didn't know Manuel for our, I didn't know, like, I didn't know anybody.

00:13:13Right.

00:13:13Because I was in a bubble.

00:13:15Right.

00:13:15Yeah.

00:13:16No, I hear you.

00:13:16I, um, I, I never meet other producers.

00:13:19Like people are always like, Oh, you know, do you know so-and-so?

00:13:23And I'm like, why, how would I know them?

00:13:24I only work on my own sets, but having this podcast, I've met a lot of people.

00:13:28The first time I ever met Mike was on this podcast and now we've become great friends.

00:13:32So he's hilarious.

00:13:33He's so, he's so funny.

00:13:36Um, we actually, besides Mike, we have a other friend in common that I completely forgot to

00:13:42mention.

00:13:42Um, Josh Lazy.

00:13:43Oh yeah.

00:13:44He's been on this podcast too.

00:13:45Oh, okay.

00:13:46Yeah.

00:13:46You know, we're friends in, um, not like Mike and I are friends, right?

00:13:51He and I are friends.

00:13:52Like we've had pizza like once and we've watched a movie once and, but he actually used to date

00:13:59Janine.

00:14:00Yes.

00:14:01That's how I know him.

00:14:01I know.

00:14:02He told me.

00:14:02And he was married to a girlfriend of mine that I used to scuba dive with.

00:14:08Oh, random.

00:14:09Yeah.

00:14:10So it was the strangest thing because she and I were actually friends.

00:14:15Um, and she had originally dated an ex-boyfriend of mine.

00:14:20So I really had never put anything together.

00:14:22Right.

00:14:22And so it was always like our relationship was always great, but we had always dated the

00:14:27same person before we got to know each other.

00:14:28So there was always that like, oh, that's our connection.

00:14:31Like the same guy.

00:14:33It's kind of weird.

00:14:34And then, um, one day she's like, wait a minute, you're friends with, wait, wait, are

00:14:39you talking Janine, Janine?

00:14:40And I was like, yeah.

00:14:40She's like, oh my God, she dated my ex-husband.

00:14:43And then all of a sudden I went, oh my God, Josh.

00:14:46Yeah.

00:14:47She was like, yes.

00:14:47And I was like, thank God we have something else in common.

00:14:50I was so excited.

00:14:54Yeah.

00:14:54It's, it's, it's funny.

00:14:55It's like, he knows so many people that I know, like just random kind of connections.

00:15:00So having been in the industry for a while and seeing how things have changed, um, what

00:15:07do you, how do you feel about the way things have changed?

00:15:09Like from the big studios that, um, you know, had the contract girls and all the glitz and

00:15:15the glamour to, um, people being more independent and being able to produce their own content and

00:15:20kind of cutting up the middleman.

00:15:22Do you think that one is better than the other?

00:15:26You know, um, I don't know.

00:15:30Cause I don't know if, I feel like there's, there's maybe third options that we haven't

00:15:34quite broached.

00:15:36Like we, we had the companies that were a little bit more male oriented as far as owning

00:15:42it and shooting it.

00:15:44And what's great is that now being that talent is doing their own stuff.

00:15:48So that means that women are, uh, I think probably at this point, a higher population

00:15:54of producer than men are.

00:15:56Uh, and even if we don't see like an individual doing their, uh, only fans as a business, technically

00:16:03they really are.

00:16:04So if they're directing and they're producing and they're putting up their own stuff, then

00:16:09technically like they're a company owner, they're, they're brand opener, uh, owner.

00:16:13And, uh, so I think that's awesome, but God, I wish there had been a sec, like an in between

00:16:18where we had had, uh, more women owning bigger companies and less of them as opposed to being

00:16:30so parsed out because, um, you know, there's something about this whole internet craze of

00:16:39us all putting out our own stuff and there's so many of us as that we're becoming numbers

00:16:45to each other.

00:16:47We're disassociating from each other.

00:16:51Um, and it's becoming a dog eat dog and I, it's frightening to me.

00:16:59I have noticed that.

00:17:01So social media has been a big platform for people to, you know, bring up a lot of issues.

00:17:07Um, some of it has been really great.

00:17:10You know, women have been able to find their voice and call out people that I think needed

00:17:14to be called out.

00:17:15But as you said, there's also been a really negative element where people, um, are quick

00:17:22to jump on the bandwagon of attacking and vilifying other performers without really knowing

00:17:28much about the situation.

00:17:30And I have noticed that on many occasions you've kind of come out as this voice of reason where,

00:17:36you know, you've said, Hey everybody, let's just like take a minute and let's not jump

00:17:41to conclusions and let's not jump on like the Twitter lynch mob bandwagon.

00:17:46Cause I don't have a lot of fear.

00:17:48Right.

00:17:48Um, like a lot of, uh, there's, here's the thing, just because you don't hear a lot of

00:17:54people saying what I'm saying doesn't mean there's not a ton of people thinking it.

00:17:58The thing is that reasonable people are less likely to speak, right?

00:18:01That is a fact because reasonable people are afraid of getting attacked.

00:18:06They're afraid of being, becoming a part of something that they can't pull out of because

00:18:12the unreasonable people are, uh, vicious and, and they taste blood and then they band together

00:18:20and they become pack mentality.

00:18:21And then, and you don't, you don't want to deal with it.

00:18:23Like reasonable people don't want to deal with it.

00:18:26They want to put food on the table.

00:18:27They want to take care of their families.

00:18:28They want to get their healthcare at all possible.

00:18:31They want to feed their dog.

00:18:32Like they do not want to deal with everybody's irrational BS.

00:18:37Right.

00:18:37They just don't.

00:18:38Right.

00:18:38Where I have had my career.

00:18:42You're not worried about, what are you going to do?

00:18:44Run me out?

00:18:45Yeah.

00:18:45What are you going to, you're not worried about pissing people off.

00:18:47I'm not, I'm not.

00:18:48Losing work.

00:18:48No, no.

00:18:50And so, uh, I don't, I don't care.

00:18:53Like, I will tell you what I think if I feel it's appropriate and, um, and hopefully I'll

00:18:59have a decent debate with you or, or conversation.

00:19:02Like one of the girls and I went back and forth and here's the thing.

00:19:06I really do adore her.

00:19:08I think that there was, in my opinion, she lost a little perspective, especially since

00:19:12there were other things that have happened in the past that she was more attached to.

00:19:17And so she, she acted differently in those things.

00:19:21Like she was concerned more about the person that was actually being lynched, um, where in

00:19:27this case she became the lyncher.

00:19:29So I sort of had to remind her, just because you don't laugh this person doesn't mean, don't

00:19:37forget it wasn't that long ago that you had concerns over this other person.

00:19:43And it was really kind of similar.

00:19:45Um, but at the end of the day, I could say to her, I love you.

00:19:51I adore you.

00:19:53I don't have to agree with you here, but I respect you.

00:19:57Right.

00:19:58You know, and to me, that's a, that's often missing, you know, you're either with me or

00:20:06against me.

00:20:06And that seems to be the internet.

00:20:08You're either with me or you're against me.

00:20:11And there's no, Hey babe, I'm with you in theory, but in, in this particular situation,

00:20:17I'm not with you in it, I I'm with you having the right to feel and do and think for yourself,

00:20:24but I'm not with, I can't carry that torch with you because I don't agree with it.

00:20:29And that's not handled.

00:20:31Well, it's not handled well on the internet at all, because it's too easy to not see somebody

00:20:38as an individual.

00:20:39It's too easy to group.

00:20:42So instead of looking at you and saying, I see you as a person on the internet, I can

00:20:47see you as white.

00:20:48I can see you as privileged.

00:20:50I can see you as a woman.

00:20:51I can see you as a man.

00:20:52I can see you as, um, if you're black, oh, you must be black lives matter.

00:20:58If you are Mexican, you must be, you know, go back over the wall.

00:21:02If you're like you, you take individuals and you make them part of a group on the internet.

00:21:07It's very easy to take the individuality away from people, lump them together as a way to

00:21:14devalue their voice and to shut them down.

00:21:18And then you don't have to contend with something you don't agree with.

00:21:21Right.

00:21:21But unfortunately, you've also shut down the discussion.

00:21:25Yeah.

00:21:26I mean, there's definitely like serious polarization going on, I mean, in this country and on social

00:21:33media, do you think that social media has in a sense made our lives better or worse?

00:21:40Or is it kind of a mixed bag?

00:21:42It's a mixed bag.

00:21:43But, you know, if you were to tell me that there was more or less benefit to it, I would

00:21:49say that there's less benefit to it.

00:21:51There is benefit to it.

00:21:53Yeah.

00:21:53For sure.

00:21:54But there's also, but I don't, in a risk benefit analysis, I would say the benefits, I don't

00:22:03know that they outweigh the risk.

00:22:06I just don't know that they do.

00:22:08I, like I said, I think it's too easy to disassociate from individuals, from humanity with social media.

00:22:17And instead of me listening to you and going, I hear you, Holly, as a person, I'm looking

00:22:23at you in your eyes and I'm talking to you and I hear you, I don't, I don't necessarily

00:22:28agree with you, but I could totally hug you when this conversation's over because I see

00:22:31you as a person.

00:22:33Instead on the internet, I see you as blonde.

00:22:35I see you as white.

00:22:36I see you as 134 characters.

00:22:38I see you as, as this, I see you as a group.

00:22:43I don't see you as a person, as an individual with your own feelings, your own needs, your

00:22:48own experiences.

00:22:50I've already decided who you are.

00:22:52I've already decided what you are according to the group that I have now believed you belong

00:22:57in.

00:22:58Right.

00:22:58And so therefore you're just one of them.

00:23:02And now I don't have to talk to you because you're part of the problem.

00:23:05Yeah.

00:23:06I didn't, I took away all your individuality and I threw all of my bias on exactly what I

00:23:12thought, what group you belong to and what your group stands for.

00:23:15And it's like insane.

00:23:18That is the thing that gets people depressed.

00:23:21That's the thing that gets people suicidal.

00:23:22That's the thing that gets people angry.

00:23:26And, and it's the thing that it tears people apart.

00:23:30It tears groups apart.

00:23:31It's not bringing us together.

00:23:33It's just not even the me too movement.

00:23:36It's fabulous.

00:23:37But why is it just women?

00:23:38Like, I understand that there's a, that the percentages of women that have some sort

00:23:45of a bad sexual experience or something revolving around sex, it's extremely high, extremely

00:23:52high.

00:23:53I do think, however, for us to only apply it to a sex, then, then it eliminates the group,

00:24:02the very group and the very, and the individuals that are male or non-binary or however it is

00:24:10they identify where we're making it men and women.

00:24:14And now we're like leaving out like all these individuals, but individuals are hurt, right?

00:24:22It's not just a group.

00:24:23Individuals are hurt.

00:24:24So now you've got a bunch of men going, I'm sick of the me too movement.

00:24:28Cause it's all about women.

00:24:29It's all about you guys.

00:24:30And I've was sexually assaulted.

00:24:32You don't hear me griping about it.

00:24:34That's what you've actually alienated almost half of the demographic, the half that you

00:24:43say you would like better from you've actually alienated, you've insulted because not all

00:24:51of them are that way, right?

00:24:53And you've turned them into the enemy.

00:24:55So how are you going to turn to them now and say, I want, can I please ask better from

00:25:00you?

00:25:01They're like, fuck you.

00:25:03Yeah.

00:25:03Look what you just called me.

00:25:04Yeah.

00:25:06So that's the thing.

00:25:08It's like people have taken that to such an extreme where it's like almost every thing

00:25:13that men do that people don't deem inappropriate as some kind of attack.

00:25:18And it's actually almost created this environment where people are so quick to, you know, jump

00:25:23on the me too bandwagon that like women, like me, myself, sometimes I'm afraid to like

00:25:28say that I think maybe this is taking it a little bit too far.

00:25:32Maybe, you know, you accusing this guy.

00:25:34Now you're going to be, but no, but now that you're going to be part of the, what is it?

00:25:39You're going to, the status quo, you're going to be part of the status quo.

00:25:42Right.

00:25:42Look at you keeping patriarchy alive, you know, it's, and it's unfortunate because you can't

00:25:48have a voice.

00:25:49The second you say as a person, I'm feeling something that go, you don't, you're not thinking

00:25:54that as a person, you're thinking that as a woman who's betrayed women.

00:25:59How dare you speak with your hidden penis?

00:26:08You know, it's, it's just like ridiculous.

00:26:12Instead of me going, no, I'm just kind of a rational person that's throwing out maybe

00:26:16an option to think about that.

00:26:19You know, I know a guy that came up and was like, you know, I gotta be honest with you.

00:26:23Like I got drunk.

00:26:23I woke up the next morning.

00:26:24I looked at the girl and I was like, did we have sex last night?

00:26:27And she was like, yeah, he's like, you had sex with me while I was like, kind of passed

00:26:30out.

00:26:30And she was like, yeah, like, that's like, it's not a thing.

00:26:35Right.

00:26:36It's like, it's not a thing.

00:26:37Right.

00:26:38Had the girl looked at her, that guy and been like, did you have sex with me last night?

00:26:43While I was passed out, he would have been like, fuck no, because, because he already

00:26:46knows that that's called rape.

00:26:48Yeah.

00:26:48You know what I mean?

00:26:49Like, but, but he was like, did that just happen?

00:26:53And she was like, cool with it.

00:26:55Like, you know, cause you're a dude, like, and I'm a chick, so you should be cool with

00:26:59the fact that I violated you while you were passed out.

00:27:01And then afterwards he was like, you know, I don't know, I guess no big deal, I guess.

00:27:06And I was like, no, you're the chick that we're talking about.

00:27:09Right now.

00:27:10You're the girl that's like, I'm going to pretend it didn't happen.

00:27:13And just be like, well, I guess, you know, I could understand where you're now you're

00:27:19apologizing for her.

00:27:20Like, so I don't know.

00:27:24Like, okay.

00:27:25But then the argument that people always have though, is that you can't rape a guy because

00:27:29his penis has to be hard in order to have sex with him.

00:27:32And if his penis is hard, that means he's turned on, which automatically means he's

00:27:37consenting.

00:27:37Which is clearly not true because he was passed out.

00:27:39Right.

00:27:40And you can't get a hard on when you're asleep.

00:27:41Anybody who has any like rational thought whatsoever knows that a guy can wake up with a tent.

00:27:49We all know that also at this point, I'd like to, I'd like to think that we all understand

00:27:55that even when a man is completely terrified, their body can still give them a hard on because

00:28:02it's about the blood.

00:28:04It's about the blood rushing.

00:28:06It's not only because they're sexually turned on.

00:28:08There are other ways that this happens.

00:28:11So it's just not rational.

00:28:14You're not listening to a person.

00:28:16You're, you're making that guy part of the group.

00:28:18And then if the group can't be raped, so that guy can't be raped.

00:28:22Right.

00:28:22You know, that's not fair.

00:28:24Right.

00:28:24It's just not fair.

00:28:26And it's unfortunate.

00:28:28And I don't think social media has really helped us in that.

00:28:30I, I, I feel like sure.

00:28:33It's gotten a lot of things out and some women have got some stuff off their chest and some

00:28:36men have gotten some stuff off their chest.

00:28:38Sure.

00:28:40But it's, but we're just individuals and we're just people.

00:28:44Right.

00:28:44And we're playing with something.

00:28:47All of us thinking we're a professional playing with a very dangerous toy and we're, none of

00:28:54us are professionals and we're just wielding this thing around.

00:28:58The problem is, is giving a platform to everybody to speak.

00:29:03And, you know, a lot of people don't think about what they say or they stop sometimes and

00:29:07go, did I ask your opinion?

00:29:09Yeah, I know.

00:29:10Right.

00:29:10When I put on my, look at my new tattoo.

00:29:12They're like, you need to erase that.

00:29:14Why would you do that?

00:29:15I, what were you thinking?

00:29:16What?

00:29:16No, no, no.

00:29:18You're on my social media because you want me to share my life.

00:29:21Right.

00:29:21I'm sharing it.

00:29:23I'm not asking for permission.

00:29:25Right.

00:29:25I'm not asking for, you made a mistake when I said, look at the tattoo of my dog.

00:29:31You thought there was a question mark.

00:29:33Clearly my punctuation did not show a question mark.

00:29:38Right.

00:29:38And I, I have lost the ability to explain to people that are too stupid to realize I

00:29:45didn't ask them a question.

00:29:47I now just block.

00:29:49Yeah.

00:29:49I don't have time to explain to every single person that doesn't realize I didn't ask you

00:29:54a question.

00:29:54And they're like, oh, well, I can't have an opinion.

00:29:56You can.

00:29:56I didn't ask for it though.

00:29:58Right.

00:29:58You can.

00:29:59I didn't ask you for it.

00:30:02Right.

00:30:02It was interesting.

00:30:03Brianna Banks, I had Brianna Banks on and she mentioned something about how the interaction

00:30:07with fans is so much different now on social media because back in the day, you know, they

00:30:11would have to come to events to see you.

00:30:13They would have to stand in line and come see you dance.

00:30:16And those were the people that truly appreciated you and would go out of their way to drive

00:30:22two hours to see you, would stand in line for an hour.

00:30:25So, you know, these were the people that really like, they were fans, like they loved

00:30:29you, you know, they're not going to stand in line for two hours to be like, Julia, you

00:30:33shouldn't have that tattoo.

00:30:34But now with social media, because people can just say whatever they want and they can

00:30:37hide behind an anonymous avatar and they don't have to like tell you who they really

00:30:42are.

00:30:42They'll just say fucking anything to you.

00:30:45And it's become this like breeding ground for so much negativity, so much criticism.

00:30:50I mean, some of the things that people say, they think they know what you're thinking

00:30:54always, like always.

00:30:55So like, if I, if I were to be like, you know, I didn't ask you, then people were like,

00:31:00oh, no, if I, if somebody said something horrible to me and I would be like, dude, I hear you.

00:31:05I don't really care.

00:31:06Well, obviously you care.

00:31:07You answered.

00:31:08That means I answered.

00:31:11I answered you as a person.

00:31:14I honestly don't really care.

00:31:16Like there is a difference.

00:31:18You can try to make it whatever you want to make yourself feel good.

00:31:21But at the end of the day, I'm really explaining to you that your arrogance has no place here.

00:31:28That you're wasting your words and my space.

00:31:32And if anybody's going to care, it's going to be the other people who care about me,

00:31:35not me.

00:31:36So how about you spare them your BS?

00:31:40You know, I, I just don't have time for the BS.

00:31:44Like it's too much.

00:31:45And if you're going to come on and I will block you because you are too arrogant to

00:31:52realize I didn't ask you.

00:31:54Yeah.

00:31:54You are so arrogant.

00:31:56I mute people.

00:31:57That's on Twitter.

00:31:58So, oh, okay.

00:31:59So they don't even know.

00:32:00But yeah, if I get someone aggressive on Instagram, I don't even bother responding.

00:32:03I just block them.

00:32:04Yeah.

00:32:04I just block to the second, the second you say something that at all triggers me just

00:32:10to be annoyed.

00:32:12Right.

00:32:12Just to be annoyed.

00:32:12And it's not, I'm annoyed.

00:32:14I'm not annoyed at your words.

00:32:15Yeah.

00:32:16I'm annoyed that you think you're so fucking smart and important that you had a right to

00:32:25spew your venom at me.

00:32:26Right.

00:32:27It's your arrogance that gets you blocked.

00:32:29And also too, I mean, there's a lot of cowardice behind that because they're not saying that to

00:32:33your face.

00:32:35Cowards.

00:32:35They know that you're never going to come after them and actually like show up at their

00:32:38door and be like, what do you mean by that?

00:32:40Yeah.

00:32:40Right.

00:32:41Can you imagine?

00:32:42Yeah.

00:32:42Can you imagine if like that was the case?

00:32:44Like you, you know, you show up at their door like, Hey, you left that comment on my Instagram.

00:32:48What do you mean by that?

00:32:49Yeah.

00:32:49Oh my God.

00:32:50They're all arrogant little cowards.

00:32:52Yeah.

00:32:53And that is really, if you're one of those people out there, I'm going to tell you right

00:32:56now, that's all we think of you.

00:32:58Yeah.

00:32:58That is really all we think.

00:33:00Oh, look, another arrogant little coward who needs a hobby and a hug.

00:33:06Like that's literally all that kind of entertains us before we go.

00:33:11So I have to go get a pedicure now, like, and move on with my life.

00:33:16Right.

00:33:16What would you give to new girls coming into the industry?

00:33:20Get a Sep IRA.

00:33:21Get a what?

00:33:22A Sep IRA.

00:33:24What's that?

00:33:25Oh my God.

00:33:27Wait, what's a Sep IRA?

00:33:28A what?

00:33:29Sep S-E-P IRA account.

00:33:32Oh, oh, like a retirement, like IRA.

00:33:36Are we going to have to have a meeting when this is over?

00:33:38Actually, it's really sad.

00:33:40I have those and I don't know anything about it.

00:33:43And I just set up a meeting with my financial advisor because I've just like let that money

00:33:47sit in there and I haven't added anything to it.

00:33:49I've been very financially responsible in that way.

00:33:51Okay.

00:33:52But when I work for my parents, they set one up for me.

00:33:55Of course.

00:33:55Mommy and daddy did.

00:33:56So I still have that.

00:33:58I haven't touched it, but I haven't added anything to it.

00:34:00Okay, so you're saying like set up a retirement account.

00:34:03Yeah, set up a retirement account, set up a savings account, stash stuff away, do your

00:34:08taxes.

00:34:08You don't want to come in after you.

00:34:10God, do your taxes.

00:34:10Jesus Christ.

00:34:12It's just brutal.

00:34:13I get letters from the IRS every year on performers who haven't paid their taxes telling

00:34:18me to put a lien on their income.

00:34:21It's too much.

00:34:21Like all the time.

00:34:22It's too much.

00:34:23You're never going to get away from the IRS.

00:34:24I've just now got Jenna on it.

00:34:26Yeah.

00:34:27I've just now got her on it.

00:34:28She's getting that shit done.

00:34:31Yeah.

00:34:31I'm not going to get this done.

00:34:32Yeah, you do.

00:34:32So, yeah, no.

00:34:35Put some money aside because you never know what's going to happen.

00:34:41And if nothing else, you could decide, hey, you know what?

00:34:44I want to take a break and I want to go do this for a minute, but you can't do it if you

00:34:47don't have a little something stashed, you know?

00:34:49So just have something stashed.

00:34:51And so that's really super, super important.

00:34:56And also, I would say whenever you're in a position where there's something you may

00:35:04not want to do, say no.

00:35:06But that's, it's too easy to say.

00:35:09And it means nothing because when you're in the situation, it all gets crazy.

00:35:13Has that ever happened to you?

00:35:14No, I have gotten into situation, situation is a really bad word because people are going

00:35:21to read bias into it.

00:35:22Okay.

00:35:23So I have put myself into scenes that afterwards I said, I will never do that again.

00:35:35I absolutely acknowledge that I had a right to walk out.

00:35:40And of course, you're not going to get paid.

00:35:41I don't understand why people are like, get all upset.

00:35:45Like, yeah, but then she wouldn't have gotten paid.

00:35:46No, you didn't do the scene.

00:35:47Of course, you're not going to get paid.

00:35:48You know what?

00:35:49If I ask my gardener to do something and then like partway through, he's like, you know

00:35:52what?

00:35:53I'm not doing this.

00:35:54I'm like, that's fair.

00:35:54I'll get somebody else.

00:35:55Like, you know what I mean?

00:35:56Like, but he's not going to ask for the money for it.

00:35:59It's not a thing.

00:36:01I think though that to be fair, a lot of these girls are probably in situations they didn't

00:36:04know what they were getting themselves into.

00:36:06And, and also in that case, a lot of girls like you got to do your fucking research,

00:36:11man.

00:36:11Do not show up for a company, not having looked them up or having any idea what kind

00:36:16of scene you're going to be doing.

00:36:17Because I see that happened a lot.

00:36:19Like girls being upset that they are like, you know, doing a scene for, that's okay.

00:36:24I do the same thing.

00:36:25We're both like straightening the tablecloth.

00:36:27Tablecloth is making me crazy.

00:36:28I'm like, it's off here.

00:36:29And then it's probably off on your side.

00:36:30So you're probably pulling it back.

00:36:31And then I'm going, no, but it's not right.

00:36:36That's the worst.

00:36:37Okay.

00:36:37You know, I get that.

00:36:39I, I, I get that you, you, you say yes to something and, and you don't partway through

00:36:45you realize, okay, I didn't ask enough questions.

00:36:49I didn't sign up for this.

00:36:50I didn't know what I was going to do something too.

00:36:52Yeah.

00:36:52I didn't know that it was going to go this far or like me, I knew it was going to be

00:36:57something, but I didn't know if it was something I was going to like yet or something I wasn't

00:37:03going to like.

00:37:03Right.

00:37:03And therefore this was my test to see if it was my thing or not my thing, but because

00:37:10it was my test and I took it upon myself, I went through the whole thing because that

00:37:16was who I was.

00:37:17I was like, you know what?

00:37:19BDSM, whipped ass, kink, right?

00:37:21You had a bad experience there.

00:37:23I remember.

00:37:24Yeah.

00:37:24But that, that, that was not an accident.

00:37:26It was an accident.

00:37:27Yeah.

00:37:27I mean, I've heard like kink's amazing.

00:37:30I've heard wonderful, only wonderful things about kink.

00:37:32Kink is amazing.

00:37:35But accidents happen on, but there are, but, but the scenes, but the certain acts are, are

00:37:40aggressive and they're especially aggressive if you're not aggressive.

00:37:43Right.

00:37:44So I decided I was going to sub and I was going to do whipped ass and like hours into this,

00:37:51I thought to myself, I am, I'm going to beat the shit out of the next person who hits

00:37:56me.

00:37:57Right.

00:37:59It's, it's, we're going to, it's going to go down.

00:38:01Right.

00:38:01The next person who spits on me, I'm decking.

00:38:04Right.

00:38:04But then I realized, no, no, no, you're the submissive.

00:38:09So I recognized and I resigned myself to the situation that I decided I wanted to see if

00:38:16I would like, because it's not anybody else's fault.

00:38:18I use this as a testing ground.

00:38:20Right.

00:38:20So I, I finished my scene and then never did it again.

00:38:25I, I've done it as a dom, but I've never done it again as a sub.

00:38:29Yeah.

00:38:29So that was my, my, my trial and error.

00:38:31But of course I went through with it because that's who I was.

00:38:33I was like, ah, you know, I can do anything for another hour that I could, I would die

00:38:36if I had to do for the rest of my life.

00:38:38Yeah.

00:38:38So I can do this, you know, and, and, and I realized that, you know, this is not, it's

00:38:44not something I am, so I won't do it again.

00:38:46Right.

00:38:46Um, but I, was I victimized by it?

00:38:49Absolutely not.

00:38:51Absolutely not.

00:38:52A victim means, it entails that I didn't feel I had a voice.

00:38:56I absolutely knew I could have walked out.

00:38:58Absolutely.

00:38:59So you didn't feel like personally violated.

00:39:01It was just like, this is not my cup of tea.

00:39:03This is not my thing.

00:39:04No.

00:39:04Every time I got hit, I was like, I'm going to beat somebody.

00:39:06You hit me again.

00:39:08Ah, ah, chick hit a nipple.

00:39:11Like I was just like, you know, oh my God.

00:39:15Like just, I'm not, I'm not somebody you, every time you strike me, I want to kill another

00:39:19member of your family.

00:39:21Like, it's just not okay.

00:39:23It's not okay.

00:39:24But at the end of the day, it was my decision to try something I didn't know if it was my

00:39:31personality or not.

00:39:32And it's not.

00:39:33So hence, I don't do it again.

00:39:36Right.

00:39:36Um, you know, uh, I could have been the dom and then decided, no, I think I'm a better

00:39:41sub and decide not to be the dom again.

00:39:43Like it's just, it's a trial and error and, and, uh, I, I feel fortunate enough to be

00:39:49in an industry where I can trial and error myself.

00:39:51I was going to ask you if, uh, I've had a lot of girls tell me that they feel like porn

00:39:55has been a great, like safe place for them to try different, um, you know, sexual things

00:40:01and discover themselves sexually.

00:40:03Has that been the case for you?

00:40:05Um.

00:40:07Or do you feel like you kind of knew yourself in a sexual way before you came into the industry?

00:40:12Uh, you're ever changing.

00:40:15You're ever changing.

00:40:16Who I was when I did my first porn is not who I am today.

00:40:21And there was about three different people in there in the middle, depending on who I

00:40:26was.

00:40:26Like at first I was like, Oh, I'm going to do it because I want to make extra money on

00:40:31the road dancing.

00:40:32Like this was very financial.

00:40:33And then it went into, Oh my God, people love me.

00:40:37Uh, don't you know who I am?

00:40:39And then, right.

00:40:41Cause that's the early twenties.

00:40:42Like you are like, you're like 24 years old.

00:40:44You'd be like, excuse me.

00:40:46I'm Julia and I will beat you down.

00:40:48If you don't, you will lose your job.

00:40:50I will get you fired.

00:40:51Motherfucker.

00:40:51Like you will never DJ in this town again.

00:40:54Like you, you, you get a little attitude, which is why I always feel for the girls who

00:41:00kind of get everything handed to them right out the gate because I'm like, how can I get

00:41:05mad at her?

00:41:06But nobody gave her any skills to do with this stuff.

00:41:09Right.

00:41:09Like I was the first person that was standing there looking at some grown ass man cursing

00:41:14him out for playing the wrong DJ song.

00:41:17Now I look at my behavior and I was like, Oh damn, I was ugly and so lucky that somebody

00:41:26didn't pummel me in the parking lot.

00:41:29Like, yeah, I don't know.

00:41:30Who the hell do you think you are?

00:41:32A little girl.

00:41:33Yeah.

00:41:33So, so do you see some of these like younger divas kind of like lashing out on social media

00:41:38and just kind of laugh and feel like, Oh, that was me.

00:41:41No, I didn't have social media by the grace of God.

00:41:45Right.

00:41:46For me to like, thank God the internet wasn't there to like capture all the bullshit that

00:41:50I pulled in my 20s.

00:41:52We're so safe.

00:41:53I know, right?

00:41:54I would have victimized the hell out of myself.

00:41:56Yeah.

00:41:57So in any case, you know, but there was a lot of different people in there.

00:42:00And then I was in my 30s, 30, the most amazing age ever, because you can be like, you better

00:42:09listen to me.

00:42:10I'm a 30 year old woman.

00:42:11You say I'm 29, second twin.

00:42:15The end comes out of your mouth.

00:42:17I'd be like, you're in your 20s.

00:42:18Yeah.

00:42:19But you say, second you turn 30, you are like, I am a 30 year old woman.

00:42:26And people are like, Oh yeah, she's got experience.

00:42:29Did you say 29 and a half, 29, three quarters, 29 and 11 months.

00:42:34They'd be like, you're 29.

00:42:37I'll have to listen to you.

00:42:38But that means that 40s are even better, right?

00:42:40But okay.

00:42:41So 40.

00:42:42Because I'm in my first year of my 40s.

00:42:44Okay.

00:42:44So I'm like, I need someone to tell me.

00:42:46I'm in my last year.

00:42:47Okay.

00:42:47Of my 40s.

00:42:48And the 40s were your best time ever, right?

00:42:5050 is next.

00:42:51So I would say my, my finest ages were between, I would say between 35 and 42.

00:43:02Okay.

00:43:02But that's because I got hit really hard with perimenopause.

00:43:09I got hit hard.

00:43:11So I went through a lot of emotion, a lot of like, there was a lot, you shot me.

00:43:18Okay.

00:43:18So.

00:43:19I remember.

00:43:19Yeah.

00:43:19You can remember this.

00:43:20I remember.

00:43:21So back in the day I shot with her mother.

00:43:25So your mom used to shoot me a lot.

00:43:27Actually, your mom used to shoot me a lot.

00:43:29And so that's great.

00:43:31You know, I mean, what did I have to complain about back then?

00:43:34You know, no, you can't touch me when we're going to do this shoot.

00:43:37Cause everything is like not R rated.

00:43:40It's not X.

00:43:41Okay.

00:43:41Cause that's how it was back then.

00:43:43I swear sooner or later in this picture, I might have brushed up against his scrotum.

00:43:48Like, it's just like, you didn't actually touch each other in these stills.

00:43:52So, but that was our, you know, that was it.

00:43:54You know, you just, I'm pretty.

00:43:56And then by the time you shot me, I was having hot flashes.

00:44:04I remember that.

00:44:05And I literally would have to stop because the sweat would just come.

00:44:10And it was like, I was standing on the sun.

00:44:14And so, so my, those years have gotten trying just from a physiological aspect, you know,

00:44:24being female and, and going through hormonal changes.

00:44:28Fucking brutal.

00:44:29But my late thirties, that 40 ish, you know, I was like, I have my shit together.

00:44:38I know what position is my favorite.

00:44:40I'd be like, bitch, you're going to go down on me like this.

00:44:43I was like, I was like, Oh, wait a minute.

00:44:47You're next.

00:44:48You're next.

00:44:49You're next.

00:44:50Come on.

00:44:50Like I, I had a, I had a thing, you know, I had, I had people that I wanted to work with

00:44:57so bad that I was like, I will totally charge you so much less if I can just have sex with

00:45:05that person or quiz.

00:45:08I'll remember when I was doing a scene with Tony Rebus and I was like, can we do anal?

00:45:12And he was like, I'm not paying you for anal.

00:45:15I go, that's not my question.

00:45:17Can we do anal?

00:45:19And I looked at Rebus.

00:45:20I'm like, can we do anal?

00:45:20He's like, who am I to say no from a beautiful woman?

00:45:23So you're saying that in his accent.

00:45:25Yeah, yeah.

00:45:26Who am I to say no?

00:45:28Of course.

00:45:29I know.

00:45:29And then Mike is like, I'm tragic.

00:45:31So I'm just tragic.

00:45:34God damn.

00:45:36So tragic.

00:45:39So in any case, you know, like there were all these varying people in there, you know,

00:45:44like it used to be like, I'm not doing that for less than this.

00:45:47At this point, I was like, I'll show up for free.

00:45:49If you can just give me so-and-so like, you know, I mean, I just want to bang that dude

00:45:53because he's hot.

00:45:54Like these are just totally different people.

00:45:57And now I, you know, I'm a little bit like, I don't know, I should be naked anymore.

00:46:04You know what I mean?

00:46:05Like, I'm not even so sure my husband should see me naked right now.

00:46:09Like, so it's hard because there's all these varying degrees of people when you've been,

00:46:15you know, somewhere for so long, you know, you've, you've morphed and changed and accidentally

00:46:23reinvented and never did it on purpose.

00:46:25And so you just continuously evolve.

00:46:29And, uh, so yeah, my scenes evolved.

00:46:32Um, you know, they started out pretty vanilla.

00:46:34Then they went into something, well, they started out vanilla.

00:46:37No, they started out artsy, went into vanilla, ended up being like, I'll do that bro bang.

00:46:43And then went into a little bit insecure and that's just my aging process, right?

00:46:52So right now I'm working on the insecure thing, which is no, I have not retired.

00:46:58Cause she doesn't get asked that question enough.

00:47:00Yeah.

00:47:01Yes.

00:47:02I stopped doing boy girl.

00:47:04No, it's not because I got married.

00:47:07I've been with the same man for seven years and was fucking everyone.

00:47:10So just no.

00:47:11However, in my hormonal situation, I've taken a step back because I kind of need to focus

00:47:23on my health for a minute before I shoot, shoot.

00:47:28Um, if I do boy girl again, it will probably be for my website, but the girl girl, I will

00:47:34eventually do with other people, uh, with other companies again.

00:47:38But right now I just am focusing on my health and I'm in college.

00:47:43So I'm also focusing a lot on that, which is when you're studying a lot, you sit a lot.

00:47:52So I, I am trying to get my health back and everybody can just, you know, take a chill for

00:47:58a second, give me a minute and realize after since 91 to now, I've been pretty consistent.

00:48:07Give me a break.

00:48:10Taking a sabbatical.

00:48:11So how do you feel about, um, like the new kinds of scenes that everybody's shooting,

00:48:17like the trends that are important today, like the, like how you're either like a teen

00:48:22or a MILF.

00:48:24I mean, has that been something that's been a little bit frustrating to you?

00:48:27Do you find that you're just like pigeonholed into particular roles?

00:48:30I don't know that it, I have a lot of children out there apparently, a lot of stepchildren.

00:48:38I have sex with a lot of my stepchildren, um, and they're friends.

00:48:44Um, you know, I don't really think about it.

00:48:49It's par for the course.

00:48:50It's, it's, it's being, uh, it's being human.

00:48:57I think no matter what happens in your life, you, you, as you age, you change gears and

00:49:02people see you as different roles.

00:49:05So I don't know why the industry should be any different.

00:49:07It's the microcosm of the macrocosm.

00:49:09Like, uh, you know, if I were, I don't know, if I were working in a restaurant, you know,

00:49:16people would be like, Oh, look at the cute, hot maid or cute, hot waitress.

00:49:20And then, you know, by the end of it, they'd be like, Oh, Polly's been working here a long

00:49:24time with the pineapple hairdo, you know what I mean?

00:49:28Like, it doesn't matter kind of where you're at, like you're viewed a certain way and that's

00:49:33placed upon you well before the industry gets a hold of a title, you know, and then they

00:49:40just work with what they've got, you know, that's, it's a reality.

00:49:43We aren't making the stuff up.

00:49:46We're just kind of embellishing on what people are already doing.

00:49:51Do you find that like you encounter like ageism and is it frustrating to you at all?

00:49:57Uh, I don't, I think the most, the ageism that, that could happen, I'm placed on myself.

00:50:03Um, I recognize if anything else in college, I see it for sure.

00:50:08Yeah.

00:50:08You know, like when the teacher turns and he's talking to the, all the students he's like,

00:50:12and then he's like, does anybody, and then all of a sudden he'll be like, yeah, so let's

00:50:15talk about TV.

00:50:16And then he'll look at me and he'll be like, can you tell them something about when TV

00:50:21was, and I'm like this, I, I, I do this every time.

00:50:25Cause I'm loud.

00:50:25Right.

00:50:26I go, you just called me old in the middle of a classroom.

00:50:29He's like, no, I didn't.

00:50:31I go, you did.

00:50:31Y'all heard it.

00:50:32Right.

00:50:33Teacher said I was old.

00:50:35Why do you have to drag me down this road of dismay?

00:50:37You know, like, I mean, I asked you that because I am like starting, I, you know, I'm 40 and

00:50:43I'm, I'm at that point where I'm just like, I think you do it more to yourself than anybody

00:50:48because you are thinking, are they viewing me?

00:50:51Like they view, like I viewed that other one that was, that still shopping at forever 21.

00:50:58And I remember when I was never forever 21.

00:51:03I never shopped at that store way too pedestrian.

00:51:07When I was 22, I was dating, uh, somebody who worked at wicked and he had a very good

00:51:14friend.

00:51:15I know you know who I'm talking about.

00:51:16I don't know if I'm going to name her, but he had a very good friend who was in probably

00:51:21the age I am now.

00:51:23And they were very, very close.

00:51:25And I'm like found out later that basically he was fucking her the whole time that we were

00:51:30supposedly together and I was like so naive and I didn't know.

00:51:34And I remember being like so angry and competitive with her and being like, oh, well, she's just

00:51:41this old bitch and I'm this hot, like 22 year old, you know, like fuck her.

00:51:44You know, what did she know?

00:51:45And like, how pathetic, you know, is she trying to be like, you know, hot at her age?

00:51:50And I am now her age.

00:51:52But wait a minute.

00:51:53Are you now thinking, oh, this is what she was thinking of me?

00:51:58Yes.

00:51:59Because now you're going, oh, she was looking down her nose at me.

00:52:02Yes.

00:52:03Poor little girl.

00:52:03Yeah.

00:52:04You stupid little girl.

00:52:05Yeah, exactly.

00:52:05So now like the roles are reversed.

00:52:07Now you realize I wasn't as hot as I thought I was because she was looking at me like, oh,

00:52:13aren't you sweet?

00:52:15Yes.

00:52:16Yeah.

00:52:16I mean, the perspective change has been really interesting.

00:52:19I know it's it's it's funny because I'm condescending on both ends of the spectrum.

00:52:22Right.

00:52:22She was condescending me.

00:52:24But yeah, so and, you know, I have some friends who are much younger than me.

00:52:30And like, I went to the Playboy Midsummer Night's Dream Party with who did I go?

00:52:36I went with.

00:52:37Yeah.

00:52:37Like Bailey Rain.

00:52:38And I was like, invisible.

00:52:41Yeah.

00:52:42And and I was like, fuck, man.

00:52:44And then the other day.

00:52:46To a point where you rely on your name.

00:52:48Yeah.

00:52:48Well, you get you rely on your name.

00:52:50It's not so much the looks.

00:52:51Now you're relying on your name.

00:52:52You rely on your past.

00:52:54Right.

00:52:54To dictate how your day is going to be or the how that moment or your experience.

00:52:58So it used to be like where you'd be like, I was hot.

00:53:02What's your name?

00:53:02Holly Randall.

00:53:03Oh, you're Holly Randall.

00:53:04Yeah.

00:53:04Now it's like, oh, hi.

00:53:06Who are you, Julianne?

00:53:07Oh, you're Julia Ann.

00:53:09But but the initial hello is really just like, who's this mature lady who's here?

00:53:15But a lot of it is you're putting on yourself.

00:53:18You've already decided how that other group is going to view you.

00:53:24Right.

00:53:24According to your own experience in life.

00:53:27And I think it doesn't may or may not be true that I'm surrounded constantly by 20 year olds

00:53:32and I'm shooting naked 20 year olds all the time.

00:53:36And I'm like, yeah, but think about it.

00:53:38The you're also getting the experience of this.

00:53:41Right.

00:53:42Recognizing that they think you're hot and they would bang you in a hot second.

00:53:47I don't know about that.

00:53:48Yes, they would.

00:53:49I don't know about that.

00:53:50Oh, I can't tell you how many times I hear about how Holly's so fucking hot.

00:53:56Holly's so fucking hot.

00:53:57Yes.

00:53:58Go on.

00:53:59No, I'm going to tell you Holly's fucking hot.

00:54:03And because I also do makeup.

00:54:05Uh huh.

00:54:05I do makeup a lot.

00:54:06Especially for Quasar.

00:54:07And so I'm the one saying, oh, Holly, oh, Holly's so hot.

00:54:12You know, or they'll be on the, Jenna, fuck, Holly's so hot.

00:54:15Well, Jenna loves MILFs, so.

00:54:17Yes, but that's not the point.

00:54:19The point is, is that they think that's, okay.

00:54:23Dana DeArmond, 10 years ago, when Diana Lorraine came back and was doing some stuff, she was

00:54:29like, fucking Diana's so fierce.

00:54:32She's just fierce.

00:54:33You know?

00:54:34And she's older than both of us.

00:54:35Yeah.

00:54:35Right?

00:54:36So, you know, the realities are, is that we are in an industry where you can't look at

00:54:43these girls that you shoot and think they're just like the average girl that's on the street.

00:54:47I know.

00:54:48I have such a skewed perspective.

00:54:50But even living in LA.

00:54:51These women that we, that are shot in our industry are a cut above.

00:54:58Yeah.

00:54:58They are, they are in a whole nother level, whole nother playing field of acceptance of

00:55:06other women being beautiful and not feeling like it takes away from them.

00:55:11They're actually like, they will look at you and be like, you're so hot.

00:55:16You know what I mean?

00:55:17Where you'll have another girl look at you and be like, she ain't nothing like, yeah,

00:55:20like, uh, which what we call civilians, but the women in our industry, all in all, a lot

00:55:26of them love women are very much pro.

00:55:31I'm going to tell you, you're fucking hot.

00:55:33You are hot.

00:55:34She's fucking hot.

00:55:35Like, it's, it's different.

00:55:37Yeah.

00:55:37Like we're actually, uh, we can really build each other's self esteem.

00:55:42Do you think that there's like a camaraderie there too, because we're kind of like the

00:55:45black sheep of the entertainment industry.

00:55:47So sometimes like more before social media, the social media has, like I said, I think

00:55:53split us apart a little bit and then in some levels clicked us.

00:55:57Yeah.

00:55:57Although contract girls were often clicked, but it wasn't because they really clicked

00:56:02themselves.

00:56:03It was because the companies kind of clicked them.

00:56:05Like, we're going to make our own click, you know, and then we don't want you to hang

00:56:08out with the other ones.

00:56:09Right, right, right.

00:56:10So, uh, but yeah, no, I think that we're fucking girls are like, Holly Randall's so hot.

00:56:19Like I hear it so much.

00:56:21It's ridiculous.

00:56:23In fact, I'm sitting there going, um, I'm Julia Ann.

00:56:29By the way, this is my favorite topic that we've, let's talk more about what other people

00:56:35say about me, uh, no, but seriously, though, I do recognize though, that like I look in

00:56:43the mirror and, and this is so funny because it's like, it's so counterintuitive against

00:56:49once what I know, because, you know, I'll shoot girls who are themselves might be kind

00:56:53of insecure and be like, Oh, I need to get my boobs done or, Oh, this is wrong with me.

00:56:57This is wrong with me.

00:56:58And I'm like, you're out of your mind.

00:57:00Like you're fucking stunning.

00:57:01Like, how do you not look in the mirror and see that?

00:57:04Right.

00:57:04And I can even see some people who might have like certain flaws here or there, but overall,

00:57:09they're a beautiful person.

00:57:10And a lot of it has to do with their energy.

00:57:12And, you know, I really admire them as a human being.

00:57:15So collectively, like I, they're gorgeous, but I look in the mirror and all I see is those

00:57:21little flaws.

00:57:22And I know like intellectually, the way that I'm seeing myself is wrong.

00:57:28You see Walmart?

00:57:29I see.

00:57:29When I look in the mirror, I see Walmart.

00:57:30What do you mean you see Walmart?

00:57:32I see Walmart people.

00:57:34I'm to the point now where I see Walmart people.

00:57:36I look in the mirror and I go, Oh yeah, I've turned into that.

00:57:43I need to go get a job at Walmart.

00:57:45Like literally Walmart people.

00:57:47Like I look in the mirror now and I see the aging Midwesterner that, you know, has a little

00:57:57too, had too much fucking Popeye's chicken.

00:58:00And I'm like, my, my skin's getting that color.

00:58:03I got cougar chest, which is, uh, you know, from the tanning from back in the day.

00:58:08I, I have, I have wrinkles in places that I didn't know you could get wrinkles.

00:58:16I'm like, what's happening.

00:58:18And then one angle I'm good, but I turn the other way and I'm like, who's that bitch?

00:58:23Like, like the worst is when you got your camera.

00:58:25I'm like two different people.

00:58:26I'm like two different people.

00:58:28I'll see pictures of myself and I'll be like, Oh, I remember once I was shooting sides like

00:58:32Tarjay, the other side's like Walmart.

00:58:36I was shooting for twisties once and we were shooting an eight K right on the red.

00:58:40And I went to go, nobody wants their porn in this.

00:58:42You guys know that, right?

00:58:44It's like gotta be a number one fan gripe.

00:58:47We downgraded to six K.

00:58:48But I went to go slate in front of the camera.

00:58:53Um, and it was a low shot cause we were like shooting up and we were shooting like

00:58:58Kira Noir.

00:58:58It was like perfect.

00:58:59She looks great from every angle.

00:59:00Right.

00:59:01And I went to go slate.

00:59:02And so I'm looking at the rushes later and I just see that and it's in slow mo too.

00:59:08Right.

00:59:08So I just see this slow mo, this upshot of me in eight K and I'm like, and I just freaked

00:59:18out.

00:59:18I was like, Oh my God, I'm so ugly.

00:59:21And so my boyfriend comes home and I'm like on the couch throwing a sulk and he's like,

00:59:25what's wrong with you?

00:59:25And I'm like, I'm so ugly.

00:59:27Why didn't you ever tell me how ugly I was?

00:59:29How come nobody told me?

00:59:31And he was like, what the fuck?

00:59:34And I was like, I'm so ugly.

00:59:35Like three days.

00:59:37I was in like the worst funk.

00:59:40And so now I'm like, I'm not slating anymore.

00:59:41I'm not getting in front of that fucking camera.

00:59:44Like no way.

00:59:44It's so wrong.

00:59:45Yeah.

00:59:46See me, I'm like, I have got to get my shit back together because, okay.

00:59:50So there was a point in time where like Janine was like, I don't know if you guys remember,

00:59:54but she didn't kind of let herself go a little bit.

00:59:56She had, she had some moments, right?

00:59:58She gained a lot of weight, you know, of course all the tattoos, which is fine.

01:00:01I think they're great, but, but she gained a lot of weight.

01:00:04She wasn't taking care of herself.

01:00:04She was really much in a funk and I'm now there.

01:00:09And it's funny cause I'm one year behind her.

01:00:10So when I was telling her, she's like, you're exactly where you're supposed to be.

01:00:14I totally know this.

01:00:15I just did this.

01:00:17And she said, I woke up one morning and I was like, am I really going to go out like

01:00:22that?

01:00:23Am I, am I really going out like this?

01:00:26So what you have to do, Julia, is you need to go on YouTube and you need to look up exercises

01:00:32for women over 50 and 60.

01:00:33And I said, if you ever say these words again, I will put on Twitter, everything I know about

01:00:40you.

01:00:41I swear to God, if you ever say to look up videos of women over 60, I will have you killed.

01:00:47And she's like, no, no, no.

01:00:48I'm just saying I did this.

01:00:50And I was like, my God, that six year old woman can do that.

01:00:53I have got to be able to do that.

01:00:55So, so now she's all like 136 pounds, fucking ripped off because she's now,

01:01:03naturally that muscular person that has the baby and then afterwards looks better.

01:01:08I don't know how that happens.

01:01:10So with me, I haven't had children, but if I even had children, there would be no coming

01:01:16back.

01:01:16Like there's just none.

01:01:17But her, it was literally like her body went, you don't have a kid.

01:01:20You should be rocking.

01:01:21Yeah.

01:01:22Why?

01:01:23And so, you know, now she's like, I have to tell you, there was at this period of time

01:01:29because she'd always been so solid and her body was always so great.

01:01:33Kind of liked it.

01:01:34I'm a little fucked up there.

01:01:35Like I was like, look at her.

01:01:37She's a little heavy.

01:01:37I'm kind of liking this.

01:01:38And instead of next to me, I'm like, so I got my shit together, right?

01:01:42Like I'm looking good.

01:01:43Now she's like, I'm 136 pounds.

01:01:45I've been rocking this shit.

01:01:47Julia, let's go do this.

01:01:48And I'm like, I don't want to stand next to you anymore.

01:01:51Fuck you.

01:01:53No.

01:01:53So now I'm like, I have got to get back into shape.

01:01:55I cannot go out like that because she's not going out like that.

01:02:00How is Janine doing?

01:02:01She's good.

01:02:02We're going to be at Portland Exotica.

01:02:05Oh, cool.

01:02:05Yeah.

01:02:06In June.

01:02:07So the first week, I think it's like the first weekend in June and we're going to be signing

01:02:10there.

01:02:10But now I'm like, I don't want to sign next to you because you look good.

01:02:13I liked it better when you look like shit.

01:02:15What the hell?

01:02:16Because that's true friendship.

01:02:17So one thing that I know that you're extremely passionate about is animal rescue.

01:02:22And actually, when we were talking on the phone the other day, you had a parrot that

01:02:26you had just rescued, right?

01:02:27I did.

01:02:28So how many, do you just foster animals a lot?

01:02:31Like how do you, how exactly do you work in animal rescue?

01:02:34It really depends.

01:02:37I'm older.

01:02:38Depends.

01:02:39Sorry.

01:02:40Okay.

01:02:42I just got it.

01:02:44You know, one time Jenna Fox asked me, just depends.

01:02:47Do they make, do they make diapers for, um, for, um, older people too?

01:02:53I was like, no, they only make, what's wrong with you?

01:02:56Wait, who else needs diapers?

01:02:58I don't know.

01:02:59Oh, did you think like babies?

01:03:00I don't know.

01:03:01But the only thing I say to her every day is what's wrong with you.

01:03:03Something's wrong with you.

01:03:04Happens every day.

01:03:05What's wrong with you?

01:03:06Something's wrong with you.

01:03:07I'm special.

01:03:09Yes, you are.

01:03:10Okay.

01:03:11So, um, animal rest, you know, it really depends on the situation.

01:03:15Like, okay.

01:03:17So the other day, uh, Melissa Monet is like, um, there's a hoarding case.

01:03:22We have a problem.

01:03:22Um, do you want to reach out to, uh, reptile rescue, um, and, uh, and see if they can take

01:03:31any, any reptiles and, and, uh, and I said, well, how many?

01:03:36And she's like, well, I'm, I'm not quite sure.

01:03:38So I actually went to the house and altogether there was probably like 400 animals or something

01:03:44from what I understand.

01:03:46How big was the house?

01:03:47It's a small, normal, modular kind of.

01:03:51Okay.

01:03:51So it's not like a ranch or anything like that.

01:03:53No, no, it was like a trailer park kind of situation.

01:03:56So no, very, very normal size.

01:03:59And, um, but there's parrots and pigs and guinea pigs and, uh, rabbits and turkeys and tortoises

01:04:08and parrots and, uh, reptiles and, and the list goes on.

01:04:15Ducks and turkeys and, uh, and pigeons and doves.

01:04:19And I like, I could literally just keep going.

01:04:22Like there was every, there was literally everything, but probably horses, like everything else was

01:04:27there.

01:04:28I swear to you.

01:04:29And, um, so I went in to get, uh, the reptiles.

01:04:33There were no reptiles.

01:04:34Somebody already swept the reptiles.

01:04:36And I ended up with, but I ended up taking out five tarantulas, um, five random paradise

01:04:46fish that were in their own little things.

01:04:48Um, that I just grabbed, we put it, I got them in Tupperware.

01:04:53Um, well, Melissa and my aunt brought them to me in Tupperware.

01:04:56I got the tarantulas and the tarantulas and then the one parrot I took out of all the parrots.

01:05:02How many pets do you have?

01:05:03I'm not legally allowed to say.

01:05:05Okay.

01:05:07No, actually it's not that bad.

01:05:08Um, um, I have a few dogs.

01:05:12I don't have like a, I don't have a ton of dogs.

01:05:13Like, cause I always try to be within my limit unless I foster because then the foster, you

01:05:19know, obviously it's going to go.

01:05:21So it's not like the city can be like, you have too many dogs.

01:05:24Uh, so I tried to stay within reason there.

01:05:26Um, I have, uh, I have the two Chinese water dragons, a parrot, the dogs, and the dogs.

01:05:38Okay.

01:05:39And I might have four.

01:05:44Um, I don't think that's insane.

01:05:46No, it's not.

01:05:47But I think the legal limit might be three.

01:05:49Okay.

01:05:50So is it, is it like per square footage or something like that?

01:05:54Right.

01:05:54No, it's like County it's per household.

01:05:57Yeah.

01:05:57It'd be like whatever the city is.

01:06:00So like Glendale was actually two unless you got a personal kennel license and then you could

01:06:06have four.

01:06:07Oh, weird.

01:06:08Yeah.

01:06:08Cause their parents, well, they don't now they have four, but they had five, but they have

01:06:12a 30 acre ranch.

01:06:13Yeah.

01:06:13But you didn't notice.

01:06:15Yeah.

01:06:15But honest, they, but those are the words they didn't notice.

01:06:21Like technically they may only be allowed three.

01:06:25Interesting.

01:06:26So if they had them all licensed to the city, the city would be like, you can only have three.

01:06:30Interesting.

01:06:31Yeah.

01:06:32Okay.

01:06:32I didn't know that there was actually a limit on how many dogs you could have.

01:06:35Like I knew that like there was a certain point that like they would call you a hoarder

01:06:38and come in and take your animals.

01:06:40Yeah.

01:06:40But I didn't, I didn't realize that there was actually like some kind of law there.

01:06:43There are city limits.

01:06:44I think that they were wanting to raise it to either four or five.

01:06:47Like in San Diego, there's various parts where you can have five and six, but up here it's

01:06:53generally in that two, three kind of range.

01:06:59My chihuahua is going to die soon though.

01:07:01So I'll be down to three and I'll be good.

01:07:03He's a horrible animal.

01:07:04So I'm just saying everybody who knows the stories understands.

01:07:08Uh, and then I've got, I would have said I had five fish, but I woke up this morning and

01:07:16I had three extra ones.

01:07:19Oh.

01:07:19So apparently someone had some babies.

01:07:22Oh boy.

01:07:24So you have a lot of pets.

01:07:25I do.

01:07:27But animals are amazing.

01:07:28I woke up in the morning.

01:07:29I had to feed the dog.

01:07:30Then I had to feed the parrot.

01:07:32Then I had to feed the Chinese water dragons.

01:07:35And then I fed the fish.

01:07:36And then I had to feed myself.

01:07:37And then I had to come here.

01:07:39And that's how that went.

01:07:41Do you ever, um, yeah, I mean like for me, I, I, I want to work.

01:07:47There's part of me that like wants to work in animal rescue and stuff, but like I have

01:07:51a real problem with like, I can't go to a pound cause I want to take all the dogs home.

01:07:55Like it really gets me.

01:07:57Like I get really like attached and it makes me, nothing can kind of get me in the way

01:08:04that dogs can get me.

01:08:06I can cure you.

01:08:07How's that?

01:08:07So the very first time I decided to pull, pull a lot.

01:08:11And that was actually because I had to go to the shelter looking for another dog that

01:08:16had gotten, um, dumped.

01:08:19And in that I, I went to that shelter and I was like, Oh my God, there's a lot going on

01:08:23here.

01:08:24And then Melissa Monet was like, you know, that there's a list of like 70 something Chihuahua

01:08:29and Chihuahua mixes that are, that are a threat of being euthanized at the East Valley

01:08:33shelter.

01:08:34And I was like, Holy shit, let's go.

01:08:38So she and I got a rescue to back us.

01:08:41We took 13 dogs out, took them all to my house, set them all up in various rooms.

01:08:50Everybody had their own little kennel run with their own wee wee pads and everything.

01:08:54So I could see who had diarrhea and who wasn't drinking and who wasn't eating.

01:08:59And I, so everybody had their situations, right?

01:09:02So 13 plus mine.

01:09:07So once you have 16 and 17 dogs in your home, you develop the skin to be like, you have got

01:09:20to go, you have got to find your people.

01:09:24Like we have got to find your people.

01:09:27Cause as much as I love you, you cannot stay here.

01:09:31Like, so that's what cured me of wanting to keep all animals.

01:09:37But the other thing is my whole purpose is to find the best situation for that creature.

01:09:45And I'm not the best situation.

01:09:48Like once I have a certain amount of animals, I recognize everyone else as much as I love

01:09:54them will fall through some crack.

01:09:55And, and, and not just that, but that it will take away from my resources for my own.

01:10:02Therefore I can only handle this and everybody else has, it is actually in their best interest

01:10:08to find their people.

01:10:10Um, so once you start doing that and you start recognizing it's about finding something better

01:10:15than you, then you're okay with it.

01:10:18Cause it's better than you.

01:10:19Yeah.

01:10:20Yeah.

01:10:20I mean, I rescued a dog actually when I was shooting for digital playground, um, named Maggie

01:10:25and, uh, this is the one that was on the street, the one that Billy visual helped me catch.

01:10:30I think so.

01:10:31Cause I think I started to argue with you about it a little bit.

01:10:33I was like, you have to take it to the shelter.

01:10:35And I was like, no, I was like, no, you have to take it to the shelter.

01:10:38And you're like, no.

01:10:39And I was like, no, you have to take it to the shelter because you don't know like her

01:10:43people.

01:10:44Like you can always go back and get her, but you have to take it to the shelter.

01:10:47And you were like, no, no.

01:10:49And I was like, Hey, I can't talk to her anymore.

01:10:51I can't.

01:10:51We're going to put out posters.

01:10:53We did put out everywhere that I could possibly list her.

01:10:57And I held her for a week, but then, um, you can do that.

01:11:00Yeah.

01:11:00I mean, honestly, we did everything that we could to try to, uh, uh, help her find her

01:11:05home.

01:11:05But anyways, uh, my assistant ended up taking her and she is like the best life, the best

01:11:11life.

01:11:12He takes her on like hikes.

01:11:14They go camping out in the mountains together.

01:11:16I mean, literally she has her own Instagram and she is the happiest, most spoiled dog in

01:11:22the world and nothing makes me happier than seeing the life that he gives her is like

01:11:26beyond what I could have given her.

01:11:28So I'm super glad that he took her.

01:11:29And that's the point is that you have to get them to where they have to go.

01:11:32Yeah.

01:11:33And you are just that place.

01:11:35And if you hold on, you can't help anybody else.

01:11:38You know, you get stuck and you're like, my whole purpose is I want to help.

01:11:41I can't help if I have no place to help.

01:11:43I have no room to help.

01:11:45Yeah.

01:11:45So you have to get your ego out of the way in order to make room to help.

01:11:50Um, I just have one now that it came from the vet and I have no problem with the gateway

01:11:54animal hospital and Glendale.

01:11:57I, my, I have used them my entire adult life.

01:12:01My, my parents use them.

01:12:03My grandparents use them.

01:12:05Absolutely adored this vet.

01:12:07I did ever, I spent so much money there.

01:12:10It's absolutely, it's like literally ridiculous, but I have completely soured because this second

01:12:19time I've taken a blood donor from them, but somebody dropped off a dog there instead of

01:12:24trying to find a place for this dog.

01:12:26They keep the dog in a cage for two fucking years, use her as a blood donor for all other

01:12:31animals that are coming in.

01:12:33And then when I took her from them, she was sick.

01:12:39She was urinating everywhere.

01:12:41I had to have her tested for all kinds of things.

01:12:43I took her to a specialty hospital and everything else because they basically, this is what was

01:12:47said to me.

01:12:48We can't absorb the cost on this dog.

01:12:50If she's sick, you bled this dog for two years.

01:12:54You took her life.

01:12:57You soaked her of blood.

01:12:59You made a living off of her.

01:13:01Or you used her to save lives and now you owe her life nothing?

01:13:07Wow.

01:13:08I didn't know that.

01:13:08I was so angry.

01:13:10I didn't know that hospitals did that.

01:13:13That just kept like a donor.

01:13:14They can't.

01:13:15They can't.

01:13:16In some places though, like the owners, like let's say you work at the vet or you are the

01:13:21vet, right?

01:13:21And you have your own dogs and you'd be like, I'm going to bring my dog in just in case,

01:13:24you know, so that way you have blood standing by if you need it.

01:13:27Right.

01:13:28Right.

01:13:28That's got to come from somewhere.

01:13:30Of course.

01:13:30Right.

01:13:31But to steal her life and to then not owe her life after you made money off of her to me

01:13:40was ethically reprehensible.

01:13:42Oh, that's really disturbing.

01:13:43I, I, and I, it's very hard to let go of your vet when you've had them like forever.

01:13:50But, um, I've never been so disgusted in my life.

01:13:54And, you know, it's one thing to have done, to do the blood donor thing.

01:13:58I realized there's a lot of things that we don't like in life and, and okay.

01:14:02And it doesn't throw me, but to owe her life, nothing.

01:14:06Yeah.

01:14:06After she's sick, you've been giving other dogs blood from a dog that potentially has an ailment

01:14:14and you don't know about it or you do.

01:14:17So either you don't know about it, which means you've spent no time, had paid no attention

01:14:23to the medical needs or the medical, uh, status of a dog that you're using her blood for other

01:14:32dogs or you do know, and you didn't care.

01:14:36Wow.

01:14:37So what are, these are our options, right?

01:14:40Either way, you're, you're a tool.

01:14:42Yeah.

01:14:43So yeah, that one.

01:14:45So I have her and because I took her in and, and she has moments of being incontinent.

01:14:52We've never been able to pinpoint what the problem is.

01:14:54Uh, I've kept her.

01:14:56Are you going to plan to foster her out at all?

01:14:59Or are you just going to keep her?

01:15:00She's going to stay because it's, it's me.

01:15:02That's another thing.

01:15:03I will never rescue an animal that I don't feel I'm willing to be stuck with.

01:15:08Right.

01:15:08And this is something I'd said to other rescuers, uh, when, cause they would keep getting stuck

01:15:13and I, and I, they kept wanting like rescue to pool animals and I'm like, okay, but what

01:15:20happens when it doesn't work out?

01:15:22We can't find a place for this animal.

01:15:23This animal is sick.

01:15:24Are there something that were this animals and adoptable, then this animal ends up being

01:15:29transferred to the founder.

01:15:30And now the founder has too many animals.

01:15:33So that's got to stop.

01:15:35So here's, this is what you do.

01:15:37You look at this animal and you say, I really, really, really, really want our rescue to

01:15:42pull this animal.

01:15:42Am I willing to take responsibility for the animal that I want the rescue to pull for the

01:15:50rest of its life?

01:15:51If this goes wrong.

01:15:53Right.

01:15:53And because if you're not, don't you ask this rescue to pull it?

01:15:57Yeah.

01:15:58Because you're all going to, when it goes wrong, you all keep stashing it at the same person's

01:16:02house and that person is going to, is overrun.

01:16:06Right.

01:16:06So it's unfair.

01:16:07So I try to only also rescue what I truly believe.

01:16:11If I look at this animal, am I willing to spend the rest of your life with you?

01:16:16Yes.

01:16:17Okay.

01:16:17Then I will rescue you.

01:16:19Right.

01:16:19Well, that makes sense.

01:16:20Because not everything's perfect.

01:16:22Now you get that animal and all of a sudden you realize that animal's got like cancer or

01:16:26seizures or, or it's highly aggressive or it has thyroid problems, whatever it is.

01:16:34And then people are like, I don't want to adopt that dog.

01:16:36Well, now it's your dog.

01:16:38Yeah.

01:16:39Yeah.

01:16:40Fair enough.

01:16:42Julia, thank you so much for coming on.

01:16:44You're welcome.

01:16:44You're awesome.

01:16:46We are going to do a little Q and A for my patron members only.

01:16:50I had a bunch of people sending questions, so I'm going to ask her a few more.

01:16:56Otherwise, can you tell everybody where they can find you on social media?

01:17:00Oh yeah.

01:17:01Okay.

01:17:02So Instagram is the real Julia and live.

01:17:06If you see it in any other fashion, spelled any other way, it is not me.

01:17:14It is not my assistant pretending to be me and I need money.

01:17:20No, I will never ask you to send me money on social media.

01:17:25So that's it.

01:17:27On Twitter, it's the real Julia Ann and, or you can go to my website.

01:17:32It's just juliann.com.

01:17:33Juliaann.com.

01:17:34Or the real juliann.com.

01:17:36Whatever.

01:17:37I have them all.

01:17:40Awesome.

01:17:40And you guys can follow me at Holly Randall on Instagram and on Twitter.

01:17:46And if you like this show and you want to support me, go to patreon.com slash Holly Randall

01:17:51Unfiltered, where you can listen to this Q and A that we're going to do.

01:17:54Also, Julia signed a bunch of vintage, vintage prints that my mom shot of her.

01:18:01They're pretty, pretty cool.

01:18:03And a lot of other things.

01:18:04So thank you guys so much and we'll see you next week.

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