Is Europe More Divided On Ukraine?

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00:00And I find it really interesting that you think Russia is losing this fight because I've also

00:06had many people on right now. We've been talking about Europe and especially Europe when it comes

00:12to giving Ukraine Russian assets. The European Union appeared very, very divided on this decision.

00:20They ended up not releasing those Russian assets to Ukraine and they made a different deal.

00:27President Donald Trump has really been pushing Zelensky to make concessions where it doesn't

00:32appear that Putin has had to make many concessions. So I wonder if you think that Europe has been

00:40more divided than ever during this time. Well, we've seen that Europe is awakening

00:47and standing towards the challenge because, you know, in difference to the United States,

00:55I mean, it's a union of 27 member states with different opinions. And, you know, it takes time

01:03before we agree on something, before we build consensus. We don't have a European president,

01:10EU president as such with the power of US President Donald Trump. And we are democracy, not autocracy,

01:18like in Russia, where President Putin is governing both, I mean, not only government, but also the

01:27media and people's minds. So having said this, of course, Europe has still to play a geopolitical

01:35game, which has not been used to do so. I think those, I mean, 190 billion or whatever assets, frozen assets,

01:44in Europe could be and should be used as a leverage to encourage Putin to introduce a ceasefire and to

01:55respect that ceasefire and the peace deal in return of possible defreeze. Hopefully, we'll come back to

02:03that in the near future.