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00:00this is a to me a fascinating conversation but like if i if this were to get to joe wants out
00:06of cincinnati if i'm the bengals there are two things i'm looking for number one get him the
00:11hell out of my conference that's number one and number two i've paid 80 million dollars for my
00:18two wide receivers i don't want to go into the draft and start over with a pup i would like
00:23draft capital and an established qb so i'm going to look to the nfc for who would be willing to give
00:30me their quarterback and picks in exchange for my quarterback and i bet you'd have a handful of teams
00:37that would that would say let's ride i bet the cowboys would do it because they'd actually
00:42save money if they went from their quarterback to this quarterback brock and you have picks anymore
00:48yeah that's a fair point you know but i mean brock and joe's um uh contracts are relatively similar
00:54joe's got more guarantees but five 275 five got more years exactly exactly joe's in the third year
01:02brock is about to start his first so again a completely mythical deal but in other words
01:08sure there are teams that would die for him the arizona cardinals would love to have joe burrow
01:13and they'd be like you want kyle murray right and the bengals would be like no thanks
01:17what else you got yeah so it'd be interesting if this gets to that which teams would the bengals
01:26call which ones would take that call i threw out that mythical idea because it does feel a little
01:33golf and stafford-esque where the rams needed to give golf and picks in order to get stafford so that's
01:41what it would be like the niners who of course yes they love brock there's no problem with keeping
01:47brock this is like shopping for a car when you've already got one that's great that's a power
01:51position um i'm a huge fan of brock i don't need to tell our audience that um but brock purdy and
01:58two first rounders for joe burrow my answer would be yes absolutely provided that i knew he wasn't
02:04ah that's a giant provided well sure but i mean i to me it's it's baked into any conversation if you
02:09can't get an answer to that then it's a then everyone would say no of course yeah if he doesn't
02:13want to play football then this is a non-conversation for me you're going down the same road you went
02:18before with trey lance which has given up first round picks which ultimately in my opinion might
02:24have cost you the super bowl and now you're in a spot where you don't have the depth you should have
02:28because you don't have first round picks you didn't have it two years ago you didn't have first round
02:32picks that you would have used on hopefully usable players that would have helped you and in turn you
02:39didn't have the depth that you would have liked to have and what you're talking about is oh your
02:43old line you need to start building that old line up well if you use those first round picks that you
02:48wasted in the trey lance deal you might have had a tackle or a guard or god forbid a center there
02:54would be a mainstay now there are other rounds i know but the best offensive linemen typically go in
02:59the first round to me this is just an opportunistic thing the niners don't need to do this the same way
03:03they didn't quote unquote need to go get christian mccaffrey but when a great player is available
03:09and you have an opportunity to go do it you know like a lot of people are like well the giants didn't
03:14need rafael devers but like if a great player becomes available and it's like oh this price feels
03:22fair or this is a way for us to better ourselves like your trey lance comp that in that situation you're
03:28going to get a quarterback who's a total unknown and as it turns out is not good this is
03:33not that this is joe flipping burrow fine if you want to put burrow as the whatever best quarterback
03:39in the league you can say i don't know second third fourth it doesn't even matter he's definitely top
03:44five where's brock purdy um top 12 okay so you're going to go from number 12 to number five let's just
03:51say for me the upgrade from 12 to five is not worth two first round picks i get that opinion i totally
03:57get it by the way a hall of fame quarterback he's going to weigh in on this in about 10 to 12 minutes
04:01kurt warner joins us now in about 10 minutes or so while we're at it should mention uh our buddy
04:08johnny avello from draft kings he's going to try to help get dibs out of his cold streak yeah boy
04:144 15 jason la confora nfl insider for odyssey at five o'clock as we try to translate what joe burrow
04:22just said to everybody yesterday you know if i want to i want to keep doing this i have to have fun
04:27doing it uh you know i've been through a lot and if it's not fun then what am i doing it for
04:31so that's the mindset i'm trying to bring to the table there's just a lot of things going on right
04:36now a lot of things going on right now football related personally all the above yeah yeah yes
04:41all of the above football or at home yes yes and i just the whole thing so much that is intriguing to
04:49me and i i wonder about like and i've never been a pro athlete but what makes it fun now winning
04:56makes it fun i think we can all agree to that when you win and kurt warner coming up here in 10 minutes
05:01we'll talk about how much more fun it was in st louis as opposed to new york for example and he's
05:07talked about that on our show how he went to new york and the scheme didn't fit him and he didn't
05:11play great i would imagine that year was less fun than when he won the super bowl with the greatest
05:16show on turf i would agree with you so what beyond that makes it fun i think all of the industries if
05:21you're lucky enough to do something you love i can only relate to it based on what you and i are doing
05:26now i haven't loved every year of my career i love me either i love this industry i love what we do
05:32but there are external factors sometimes to where there are years where they go great and then there
05:38are years where you want to wring somebody's neck whether it's a partner a boss a company or whatever
05:43and that that is that to me is probably i don't know that's probably what's happening here i have
05:51to think he's like this is these fancy receivers who probably get mad at me every other week by the
05:57way jamar chase i don't think loved last week t higgins got all the run and jamar looked very
06:03frustrated in a game where the bengals scored over 35 points or over 30 points and lost and lost and
06:09that's the deal like joe is getting sacked too much there's no defense to stop the other side
06:14it's just it probably becomes painful um even though in a normal sense it would be fun i'm sure
06:22like he's never looked like he doesn't enjoy playing football maybe that's where this is going i don't
06:27know i i don't either i don't pretend to know joe burrow but when i hear him say what he said about
06:33you know and the follow-up question about is it on the field is it off and he's like it's everything
06:37well yeah i mean maybe you just wait a month and get into the offseason and then you can do a
06:41little soul searching and then you can decide how you feel you always uh highlight this like why now
06:47why would he come out now and say it and just listening to that and watching it earlier this man is
06:53down he is broken and it feels more than just boy we lost a tough game been a lot of years since
07:00he's been in the playoffs now and a lot of pain since that time and a lot of losing even while he's
07:05playing really well let's go to caleb in newark hey caleb thank you for calling what's up
07:10what's going on fellas how y'all doing good man how are you i'm doing good uh divs i got
07:18divs i gotta get on you man about your uh brock purdy and joe burrow debate and let's go do it
07:26don't do it on the bush come on yeah yeah yeah yeah well you might have to uh stay out of this one
07:31okay all right i'm gonna go use the restroom go ahead caleb all right so look and this is coming
07:37from an lsu fan so i'm gonna be as non-biased as i can when it comes to joe burrow you know i think
07:43that 2019 team is the best college team i've ever seen but look before before i say that
07:47did do you really think that brock purdy is better than joe burrow like with a straight face
07:53caleb did did you hear what i said earlier caleb it's more than about no no no i'll let you finish
08:00i'll let you finish but what i said is about scheme and style and fit it's not about who's
08:07better a versus b and this is not fantasy football caleb go ahead joe burrow is basically a better
08:13version of brock purdy that's basically what he is like this isn't like uh lamar jackson colin murray
08:20war okay well you know they're they're a dual threat they can run use their legs something no
08:24like joe burrow is a basically he's a better version of brock like better arm he's more accurate
08:31and brock purdy has had way more around him than joe burrow has had throughout his career
08:35you know i mean i you know what i'm saying like joe if you i agree with willard if you trade two first
08:40round picks for joe and you swap out brock purdy the niners get infinitely better now that's no disrespect
08:45to brock because i like brock he's a good player but joe burrow that's that's a different level man
08:49then let's just not i'm sorry mark i didn't know you'd come back to the bathroom but let's just
08:54not then uh talk ever again about the tackle of the future that's a first round pick you won't have
09:00let's not talk about the edge rusher that you all want that's a first round pick this is not
09:05preventative of the whole roster of it's getting the elite people that you want the elite players at
09:11the elite positions they come in the first round the rams have gotten players without any picks
09:17for a decade right honestly like you can an edge rusher yes his name is jared verse and he's awesome
09:24right you can get people not in the first round the niners don't so there you go well then then all the
09:32more reason to not have your first right and the niners have so i mean they've used a first round pick
09:36on a tackle and they didn't keep them and they had to go out and get a free agent trent williams
09:41to be their tackle i mean now we're getting off subject like i we're on the subject of the niners
09:45and first round picks and they need them i in theory agree with you but everything has its price
09:51and this to me would simply be an exception um joe burrow in the nfl is like colby bryant in the nba
10:00that's a stretch no listen to what i'm gonna let me finish the sentence there's no system
10:05that he doesn't fit you know how does he fit our system joe burrow fits all of them one size fits all
10:15hundo percent
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