00:00How would you judge Zelensky's leadership and diplomatic skills, Fred?
00:04Do you think Zelensky can manage getting his country through the end of this war?
00:09I think Zelensky is a hero in getting the country through this war so far.
00:16I think he's made some missteps in his dealings with Trump, but I think he's corrected them.
00:21And right now, he's trying to find a way to get out of this war in an honorable way.
00:27And obviously, it's very painful for the Ukrainian people to contemplate any concessions to Russia or to agree to a peace deal while Russia still holds Ukrainian territory.
00:39And he's going to have to find a way to get the Ukrainian people to realize that they're going to have to make these painful concessions.
00:45I think he can do that because, look, realistically, Ukraine will lose this war.
00:50They will run out of troops.
00:52They're not going to be able to hold out indefinitely.
00:54I don't think we're near that point, but Zelensky needs to think about that and to convince the Ukrainian people we have to make the best deal we can.
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