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00:00:00hello and welcome to the wrestle talk podcast here every monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday
00:00:05saturday sunday this week i'm being glib here every tuesday and friday normally but this week
00:00:11yes we are back on sunday for survivor series because it's the survivor series go home episode
00:00:18of the podcast kind of where we will be going through our predictions for the show the uh
00:00:24the championship which i hold so dearly it wasn't just on the floor no that i've forgotten about
00:00:32nope the championship is on the line we will be doing our picks do you want to get the graphics
00:00:37look at the look at the money we've spent on the graphics oh wow that is a word doc that we just
00:00:46made no expense spared we are gonna try and accurately predict every order number of the
00:00:57entrance for both the men and women's war games when we come to survivor series the review show
00:01:03on sunday we will have a score out of 20 of how accurate we were of predicting the entrance for
00:01:10the uh the war both war games matches yeah and we'll be doing our full predictions for the show
00:01:16because you know there's so many other matches on the card we'll also do those smackdown we'll also
00:01:21do those two other matches yeah yeah that's right it really feels like a raw branded pay-per-view
00:01:27raw heavy show like both the war i mean despite what cody rhodes will tell you the the war men's
00:01:33war games feels raw heavy mostly that's what punk says on this episode of raw he's like yep uh you might
00:01:39be the quarterback but this is raw i'm the champion and the leader of the team captain cody we've got one
00:01:46segment here guys better build some tension between this team well it's better than what
00:01:50they did with charlotte flair i don't like you actually rhea ripley four days later are you all
00:01:56right aren't you yeah actually i changed my mind you're all right we will be doing our predictions
00:02:01on this show but we will start off with the go home review of raw well in place of a qr code joke
00:02:09uh i did get a message uh sent to me on uh my instagram dms excuse me joke qr joke uh that i you
00:02:18know i don't obviously read out uh my instagram dms that people send me but sometimes people send me
00:02:24things that are dick pics well obviously there's a lot of that yeah sorry about those sometimes there
00:02:32are things that we just have to address and i think that it is very important that we address these
00:02:37sorts of things on the podcast so this came in from loy it says hi luke love the show great review
00:02:42as always do you mind asking ollie where he got that green knitted polo sweater he was wearing on
00:02:47the video i'd love to get one thank you oh thank you this this is nice it's a compliment that what
00:02:53yesterday's aw review yeah you were wearing a lovely uh green knitted polo yeah i don't know if you've
00:02:59noticed um but since i bought it about three weeks ago i wear it all the time um it's it's from a
00:03:06a shop called percival which had become quite a trick actually that's not what your t-shirt's
00:03:10from but i bought you a t-shirt you did you're going with the godzilla one yeah they're really
00:03:14good uh they they become quite a phenomenon in british men's fashion uh tom spider-man
00:03:20he wears them yeah ed gamble ed gamble uh gareth southgate i think they made his waistcoats for the
00:03:28world cup i think percival actually did do a deal with off-menu podcasts to do an off-menu branded
00:03:34shirt so just say in percival pick up the phone give us a call i pitched it to so that weird story
00:03:42me and laurie got into them way before it was cool and we just found out their original workshop
00:03:50was opposite our office no way we went there me you and laurie went there when they had a little like
00:03:56open day did we in 2019 yeah well when we came here for the open day no no that we were moved in
00:04:02as we are sitting in this studio right now percival's original office is two doors over
00:04:11in another building yeah i do not remember this open day at all yeah well anyway it's from percival
00:04:17they're really nice um but expensive i got a birthday discount code uh but yeah black friday's
00:04:22coming up isn't it uh sorry for all that waffle do subscribe uh but yeah should we get on with the
00:04:30raw go home episode let's do it uh it started with shots of them setting up the war games ring
00:04:36in san diego yeah which i quite enjoyed it's quite cool yeah really really nice
00:04:41um but maybe maybe it's because melter and alvarez have been this has been their latest bugbear
00:04:46so now i've heard it and can't really unhear it these episodes of raw take a while to actually start
00:04:53don't they their latest bugbear yeah yeah their latest bugbear this has been the thing i've said
00:05:00about monday night raw since you and i started doing this podcast in 2017 not not really heard
00:05:05anyone else say it the lack of things that this show accomplishes within its first 10 minutes
00:05:10but usually it's like oh because there is a 20 minute opening promo that does nothing but now it's
00:05:17like we've got to wait 10 15 minutes before the nothing promo starts i used to say because they would be
00:05:23like you know 20 minute opening segments where nothing was accomplished and the point i used to
00:05:28make was episodes of friends are like 22 23 minutes long so think of what friends accomplishes in a 22
00:05:36minute sitcom format compared to what raw does not accomplish with the same amount of time or just
00:05:42look you know there's examples in wrestling which are way better than friends 2008 episodes of tna impact
00:05:49my god that's six years of storyline in about 20 minutes you would get probably 15 segments
00:05:56in an opening 10 if you had 20 minutes of tna impact in 2013 actually 2005 through to 2013
00:06:05you would get roughly 20 odd segments at least 15 and you know we thought that was a bad way to do
00:06:12wrestling but here we are in 2025 sort of pining for a couple of weird backstage segments here's the
00:06:20thing i don't feel i don't watch this show live i've said before on time this show is not designed
00:06:25to be watched live this this show is designed to be watched on demand because pressing that skip
00:06:32forward five button man like my i think i'm gonna break the right arrow key on my key on my keyboard
00:06:38because i press it so much roman reigns comes out and then he's acknowledged me
00:06:44what do you want to talk about yeah before you know it there's a good like 15 minutes you've skipped
00:06:54there and you've got it done in 30 seconds i i started a bit in the news it's not really gone
00:07:00over i like it a couple of weeks ago where i just i go through a segment and it's usually this person
00:07:06has an entrance this person has an entrance and then nothing else happens and then i go
00:07:10people say wwe is just entrances and the last two weeks have become a parody of that line
00:07:19particularly when we get to the women's war game segment later that was a proper
00:07:23so yeah that's that's the opening of this show 10 minutes in after you know i started this putting
00:07:31over how i like joe tessitore tessitore ray uh throwing to here's some footage of the war games
00:07:38rings being built yep i also i didn't mind it too much because i got a big lol out of during the
00:07:43recap of last week's raw they used the police body cam footage from the nypd lovely little bit of detail
00:07:50and actually i think it's quite important what they chose to show because we got stuff that wasn't on the
00:07:55broadcast and the final image of the recap of last week that again we didn't see on raw this
00:08:01happened after it went off air was punk going face to face with roman reigns and bearing in mind
00:08:07what happens at the end of this segment i think your prediction that you said last week is very
00:08:12much ringing true well that is your wrestlemania one of your wrestlemania main events this was a
00:08:18prediction i said before punk won the title i was like seth's been injured they need a wrestlemania
00:08:23main event the biggest one they can do is punk roman yeah i didn't think it'd be for the title
00:08:28but i i certainly thought they would do punk versus roman at wrestlemania so yeah then then it's the
00:08:33long roman entrance and as luke's very good recap of his viewing habits and mine to be honest yeah
00:08:41it's he comes out he waits for ages says acknowledge me oklah okc oklahoma city not otc oklahoma city
00:08:52he had both sleeves i'm trying to remember how many sleeves he had in this should have noted i
00:08:59don't know maybe he had a tattoo or something that he wanted to protect and uh that's a private joke
00:09:07and then yeah he says one line cody comes out cody cody actually gets more dialogue than i thought he
00:09:16would yeah but it was a dumb dialogue yeah his point was like why have you got beef with the vision i was
00:09:21like where i know you've been over on smackdown cody but have you forgot what's happened since
00:09:25wrestlemania yeah cody goes so what do you guys want to talk about where i thought it would then go
00:09:31yeah punk comes out but he actually says what's in it for you roman and roman obviously replies
00:09:38they're the usos on your team and i hate the vision yeah i've been feuding with them since the
00:09:45night after wrestlemania i've had two pay-per-view matches with bronson reed why do you think i want
00:09:50to be on this team captain cody and then cody says in a sort of bit of scripting that we're familiar
00:09:57with from black adam oh we need to set up a cool line for someone else well let's just give this
00:10:03character a dumb setup line that they would never say so cody after being skeptical roman says that and
00:10:09cody goes well i guess i just gotta say welcome to my team yeah q cm punk long entrance cm punk
00:10:17your team yeah my team it's actually my team this is monday night raw i'm the world heavyweight champion
00:10:24i'm calling the shots around here this is my storyline i don't know why you seem to think
00:10:30you're the captain of this team yeah you're the quarterback over on smackdown but i'm the champion
00:10:35over here and roman then says well we can all what can unite us all is that we all hate the
00:10:41vision and paul hayman and while we're being honest that title would look way better over my shoulder
00:10:47yeah he was very much looking at punk but the idea was you don't know which title he was looking at
00:10:52joe tessler was very much playing that up on commentary punk was saying you're talking about
00:10:56my title or his and i think we do have a comment coming later on from our patreon post that is like
00:11:01i don't know why roman would want to win the world heavyweight title when it was a title literally
00:11:05introduced because no one could beat him for his title i thought it was great um i did so actually
00:11:12the amount of time we got to took to get here not a fan of but that little bit that really that this
00:11:19is what triple h excels at it's the little seeds for later things it's using survivor series here in
00:11:26november as the start to the start of the road to wrestlemania we are setting things up now here
00:11:33in november that are going to pay off in april lovely bit of business i love that that is rather
00:11:39than just sort of waiting until the night after the royal rumble like actually setting seeds now
00:11:43sowing seeds now that will pay off later that is a good use of your time like as a i think my problem
00:11:49is that it doesn't do a lot of build for war games like this is artificial tension between them
00:11:55to lead into the war games match it's got nothing to do with survivor series really i don't think
00:12:00that's artificial tension i think this is very well done tension but this should have been done ages ago
00:12:05it's been in the works for like a year well roman only joined the team last week yeah but there is a
00:12:12longer story here than just who joined whose team yeah but there's but i'm talking about the story for
00:12:17survivor series so he joined the team last week and now they have to like very much very quickly
00:12:22artificially artificially just create some tension between these five because like cody felt like he
00:12:26joined the team late as well and now he's the captain so we've got basically one segment here to say
00:12:32they're not really on the same page when you could have done a much bigger story that involves a bit
00:12:37more i it didn't that didn't bug me i see this as part of a longer tapestry which is all these three
00:12:46guys have had years of being enemies or partners and particularly if you look at last year's war
00:12:54games which roman referenced hit punk helped roman and then roman goes yeah but four months later you
00:12:59ruined my life you took hayman from me that you know seth took hayman but punk put hayman in that
00:13:04position i actually think it's quite good i'm just yeah wish it could be done in five minutes
00:13:12uh we cut backstage to the vision and hayman is choosing drew mcintyre's tag partner the main event
00:13:19of the show is going to be the the heels versus the faces to see who gets the advantage for the war
00:13:26games match yeah and uh it's drew mcintyre tagging with someone and logan paul suggests brock lesnar
00:13:31and paul hayman's like look brock's not wrestling on raw and that's not going to happen and so he's
00:13:35like oh bron break and he's like let's don't be bron either bronzer reed no it's going to be you
00:13:40and logan's like what a great idea that is poor old bron breaker the what a fool this is i know yeah
00:13:46it did that when logan paul says is it bron breaker the camera sort of tilts slightly to show bron he's
00:13:53got his head in his hands he looks dejected so i think the thing with bron is his story for this
00:14:00episode or like the subtle bits of story for his episode are squashed because brock falls over
00:14:05because there's a silver lining quite clearly the end one of the ending visuals was brock coming out
00:14:15doing his pose bron standing next to him not looking pleased about it and brock little brothering him
00:14:20by putting the hat onto him but because brock falls over and then laughs his tits off no one's talking
00:14:27about the bron breaker interaction that he has yeah you're probably right like bron with his head in
00:14:32his hands here is supposed to be sort of like the start of i don't want to be working with brock
00:14:36lesnar i feel like this is going to ruin the relationship i've got with paul hayman yeah it's
00:14:41uh you're right that is a story i think it's a bad story i think it's a bad story to tell with breaker
00:14:47a month six weeks after the whole seth rollins turn like when when they did the artificial let's stop
00:14:53this whoa you're getting over kid you're not ready for it i was already annoyed but i'm like whatever at
00:14:59least they'll keep him strong he is fourth fiddle in his own team right now that's because he was
00:15:06not supposed to get that big angle with seth rollins but i don't know if ron's got injured so
00:15:11they had to do that angle and now we there's no plans to follow up on that so we're not following
00:15:17up on that i feel like he's in a worse position now than he would have been if seth didn't get
00:15:22injured he had the world title on his shoulder like four weeks ago maybe longer than that five weeks
00:15:27ago a real a real bad bit of booking that is um then but we got an excellent match next
00:15:34this is awesome gunther versus carmelo hayes in the last time is now tournament very similar to
00:15:40the javon evans layout i mean it's very similar to all gunther match layouts not i'm not saying that
00:15:44as a criticism i like that match me too uh so gunther is the bully he dominates but hayes starts to
00:15:51make the underdog come back go through two commercial breaks they do a count out tease which is
00:15:57how hayes beat reed on smackdown i thought that was superb because like i think hayes through his
00:16:03physicality told that story really well of how he was looking to get the count out victory and then
00:16:09gunther just getting back in at nine i thought they were both superb in this match gunther is just
00:16:14awesome he's so great and he actually feels even more op now because he's got his original music
00:16:19and hayes was superb in this role yeah uh gunther put him over big even in defeat like this is a
00:16:26great example of people getting over in defeat like evans the previous week where gunther hits
00:16:31him with a power bomb kick out everyone's like oh my god and then another power bomb to put him away
00:16:37great match uh gunther's original music plays i can't remember the name of the classical piece
00:16:43but i don't think it's gone on this long for a while because then it cuts backstage to roman punk and
00:16:51cody's sort of talking and you can hear and it has a movement where it actually goes quite nice
00:16:56yeah it's like mankind's one of matching the actual era uh so roman punk and cody are talking
00:17:03backstage they're sort of bickering still when the usos walking because they're in the main event
00:17:07and they say get on the same page yeet yeah we've dropped all the code uh the the j character work
00:17:14that we were doing because dot dot dot war games yeah real shame well this is kind of what i was talking
00:17:19about earlier with like the it just it feels like we're sort of artificially adding in tension here
00:17:24just like you know one week out before the show to be like oh no this team is combusting i feel like
00:17:28it has come at the expense of some of the other character work that we were doing across the show
00:17:32it but built into the cody punk stuff i don't disagree with that and i think that stuff is very
00:17:37very good but it is it's artificial for just because we're doing a war games thing war games has now
00:17:42become your annual hell in a cell show which is like well it's it's november gonna do hell in a cell
00:17:47and it's because that's you know what wwe is selling the package on when they're selling it to
00:17:51city is you're getting war games the branding of war games it's it is a shame because i don't think
00:17:57you need to pause the usos stuff like is it it's more dramatic if roman's both bickering with punk
00:18:04and cody because he wants their titles but he's also bickering with jimmy and jay because jimmy feels
00:18:10like roman is manipulating jay yeah yeah that's a good point actually we're talking about jay's character
00:18:15what about jimmy's character being dropped what about like i don't want you to be little roman i
00:18:20think you're acting more like roman here's jimmy used to be like hello roman yeah like it's it's all
00:18:24it's it's it's actually quite poor i would say uh we got a little clip of john cena from his home
00:18:31planet talking about success oh here's i forgot i forgot this happened dominic mysterio then comes
00:18:41and he does a promo on cena of course he's facing him at survivor series for the ic title a lot of
00:18:49crowd heat because it's dominic and then he says he's going to embarrass john in his hometown win back
00:18:55the ic title and he's the greatest mysterio of all time he can say what he wants because cena isn't here
00:19:03and then cena's music here and i was just like no they wouldn't do that after doing so much promo
00:19:10work last week no for that being the last roar i was fully expecting the long entrance where no one
00:19:17comes out and then it just counts back to dominic zero chuckling away being like i fooled you all john
00:19:23cena's not here this that and the other sure michaels and brett hart that's exactly it right like it's a
00:19:29classic heel move instead they did a different classic heel move very classic classic in the sort
00:19:35of way where you're like i should have a trigger warning on him now classic in the gone with the
00:19:40wind at the bfi peter pan there's a little yeah there's a little note there's blackface in it
00:19:46so cena's music hits and out comes a little person dressed as cena yeah i don't think we've had this
00:19:56in wwe since 2018 big cast daniel bryan and you and i said at the time in 2018 oh this feels dated
00:20:06yeah and it's seven years later with a completely different regime it feels even more dated i feel
00:20:12like there's there's you could like contextualize it because there is a great tradition of minis
00:20:17wrestling in mexico so like if you did this and actually this was a way to introduce a mini into
00:20:26dom's act with el grande americano and the triple a stuff you know like oh okay there was a reason
00:20:32beyond the cheapness to the segment you know you could argue that um but really this was just a way
00:20:40to beat up a little person yeah which you know whatever i don't really care ray mysterio made the
00:20:45save eventually ray looking like a jeff hardy level dickhead i'm gonna wait till my son has done
00:20:53two finishing moves then i'll run out to make my save he's done he's he's done with the beat down
00:20:59now i will run down um but i say all this when they had another little person dressed as stew
00:21:07doing the filming of little person cena yeah i thought that was good attention to detail stew
00:21:13sold it quite well actually because he was really surprised by all of this so there was a weird
00:21:19infinite regress meta thing where someone was filming stew actual stew cameraman stew
00:21:26who was filming little person stew filming filming little person cena who's got the dreidel
00:21:33and they both run down and they're they're up they're at ringside and i started to think
00:21:43full size stew is a work this is someone under makeup or you know it's hangman out of page it's
00:21:53it's santos esca i don't know it's someone but no there was no payoff to this so if if there was a
00:21:59more intelligent secondary reveal to this whole thing i think i i wouldn't mind i don't think
00:22:05little people should be just removed from all angles going forward but but there wasn't i didn't i just
00:22:11don't think this was smart enough no this was just it was very vince yeah it did feel this was a very
00:22:16vince angle there is some good comedy to be had in here though because dominic mysterio has hired this
00:22:22guy to come out here and be a bad john cena but he goes into business for himself and dom has to go
00:22:29and be like what you doing man this isn't part of the plan and then the the was wade barrett called
00:22:34him john weiner uh then cut a promo on dom because it's about how you know even did the fine speech
00:22:40and then dom boots him gives him the 619 and the frog splash so there is like you know some good in
00:22:45that like the the heel was shown up but then the heel stood tall but i i think it's it felt like from
00:22:51a bygone era well i i don't even think that part was well scripted because usually you would have dom
00:22:58in the ring there and he would start doing loads of jokes or a promo at little cena's expense
00:23:04what what happened was seen cena got in the ring little cena got in the ring and immediately started
00:23:10dressing down dominic mysterio so oh well there's no reason what why is little cena suddenly doing that
00:23:17you need dom to get the heat and embarrass this little cena first maybe this little cena came out
00:23:22thinking oh i'm gonna get you know this is gonna be a good spot for me but dom embarrasses him and
00:23:27that's when he fires back otherwise i don't think the heat works i mean i don't think the heat worked
00:23:32for this at all yeah because the the second that the little person came out you felt the wind leave
00:23:40this arena everyone went oh okay yeah like it was yeah a really odd reaction to this obviously dom gets
00:23:48booed because he's being a little person but that is more oh i'm booing this because i just have to i i
00:23:52now have to boo the segment because the heel is doing something bad i didn't think this got the right
00:23:57time of heat at all but i laughed my tits off when dr ray mysterio made the save yes uh ray runs down
00:24:06um and this sort of leads into the next match which was ray mysterio versus jd mcdonough yeah nothing on
00:24:13the line which felt weird because so so many matches recently on raw have been for something
00:24:18this was just a match but it was a very good one jd mcdonough is fantastic yeah i mean this was a
00:24:24really good match i was surprised that considering that dom was in the previous segment that this was
00:24:30not used to try and further this ray and dom storyline they started a couple of weeks back
00:24:34and have since not really done much with i guess because you gotta pause because dom's now doing
00:24:39something else but yeah it's just they had a really good match and ray won yeah finn tried to
00:24:47interfere sort of backfired that's how ray got the win 619 and considering that there was not a women's
00:24:53match on this show which is too on the bounce now because there were no women's matches on smackdown
00:24:57either you could have easily had a women's match here yeah uh cody roads is interviewing i did not
00:25:06recognize no i did not either i was like who's this backstage hand that he's interviewing on the
00:25:11podcast and and then the announcers go oh it's timothy chalamet chalamet chalamet chalamet i was like
00:25:18what yeah okay he's plucked from a weatherspoon i like i really rate him as an actor i'm just i guess
00:25:27i've never seen him with a buzz cut not buzz cut but you know very short hair uh adam pierce is talking
00:25:33to raquel rodriguez raquel's like why is nicky getting a title shot rather than me and adam pierce
00:25:39says well next time there's an opportunity i'll think about it and raquel goes thanks
00:25:44what he said was in so many words sorry actually we've got a survivor series we're going to get
00:25:49through first but once that's done with and then maybe there'll be an opportunity for you i thought
00:25:54raquel looked lame here just the way she's okay that's cool she's got her monster heel uh then the
00:26:00new day and grace and wallowalkin pierce has some good news for them aj styles and dragonly uh dragons
00:26:08with smiles they want to defend their tag titles against them next week yeah and uh yeah well you
00:26:13are the only other tag team that we have on raw so i guess it has to be you there was a really funny
00:26:17so christopher daniels posted a photo of him aj samoa joe and frankie kazarian and he was like
00:26:24three of three quarters of this picture are champions in their respective federations shows what
00:26:30a great you know all the great work that we did in the mid-2000s and service here and i was looking
00:26:33at that picture being like what titles are you going on well he's the tna champion he's the what's
00:26:39what's eight oh yeah the tag titles uh but ironically i think that's the title win that went down best
00:26:44lesnar's shown walking into hayman's room backstage then we get the lady war games segment which was
00:26:53pretty generic uh what did you expect well a bit more because this has actually been well built i
00:27:00thought the way everything's come together over the last month the tag matches with kabuki warriors
00:27:06have been excellent uh but here it was just all the heels out there becky gives a promo which was good
00:27:13i really liked becky's promo because i think it was really she was doing a trump promo yeah i got a
00:27:20trump cadence from that's what and it was very purposefully done and i thought it was really
00:27:24really funny there was a bit when she went over to naya because she's putting over each person in the
00:27:29team while also slightly dressing them down and she says here's naya she's the only other person to hurt
00:27:35my face and that's crazy because my face doesn't get hurt i've got a strong face yeah exactly there was
00:27:39just like that is a trump cadence of speech yeah continue trumpeting your own work whilst also talking
00:27:46about other people's work i thought she was superb in this opening segment she was she was the best
00:27:52thing here because then it's just people talk about the promo train this was then the entrance train
00:27:56so one person comes out and i after what i the second one came out i was like okay i i figure out
00:28:03what's going on here everyone finally comes out i got through this episode of raw pretty quickly this
00:28:07morning uh so all the baby faces come down aj lee is the main person talk well the only person talking
00:28:13for them um just sort of stuff i'm gonna be crazy in a cage and it didn't really do anything for me
00:28:21and then she says then ria just clocks someone with a microphone and the brawl starts faces stand tall
00:28:27charlotte and ria are now working side by side to show they're on the same page and becky backs up
00:28:33the ramp looking scared yeah ria and flair did the suck it taunt and like brett hart at russellmania
00:28:38i rolled my eyes uh i mean in fairness to this segment they've already taped smackdown
00:28:44for this friday which has got the go home angle on it which has got like the advantage match on it
00:28:49so there's not really much more you can do here because you you've got the payoff already taped
00:28:55could have a match well they've got the match on friday you can have a different match you can have
00:28:59a women's match i mean yes you could have had a women's match but you could have had a women's
00:29:03match that wasn't war games related as well but yeah you've already taped everything so you kind
00:29:08of just have to do pretty standard stuff here so as to not encroach upon the stuff you've taped next
00:29:13week or already last week solo sokoa then took on penta this is a quarterfinal in the last time is now
00:29:19tournament uh reportedly meant to go 12 minutes as you'd expect only went to because penta very early
00:29:25on hit a hurricane rana off the barricade but landed hard on his shoulder apparently reportedly
00:29:31he dislocated it tried to pop it back in the doctor's like no we're calling off the match
00:29:38wade barrett throws to a commercial break and when we come back they announced that solo sokoa is the
00:29:43winner via injury real real shame really such a shame i think it's i don't buy because i think
00:29:50melzer said that solo was always scheduled to win i don't buy that because he's busy doing something
00:29:57else on smackdown they've already taped because he's part of the survivor series elimination
00:30:01match i don't think he was supposed to i think penta was supposed to go through and you do penta
00:30:05gunther in the semi-finals yeah maybe i mean they melt so whether people like it or not has been
00:30:12pretty accurate on things recently yeah i don't i don't buy this one i otherwise i feel like it's a
00:30:17an odd move yeah otherwise it would have been gunther versus solo which it is going to be heel versus
00:30:22heel said in my video that's uh that's an email from triple h on igm mode but yet this is a genuine
00:30:29such a shame real real shame yeah taking the world by storm then we got a clip not the world
00:30:35just just wwe right not even triple a uh a clip of cena returning at the 2007 royal rumble so we get
00:30:42his stupid face
00:30:44maxine dupree's backstage talking to adam pierce we did it i'm the ic champion i'm gonna call natalia
00:30:54like now not last week when you won it yeah was that not the friends that you were training with
00:31:00there was also a uh a tease in here as well that we're going to get a women's version of the casino
00:31:05promo we've had for the lads for wrestlemania 40 and this one's got wine so you know it's for ladies
00:31:12white wine for the ladies uh ivy nile walks up to maxine and says that title's mine
00:31:17then roxanne and raquel are there as well and they're like oh really nice title there setting
00:31:23up a feud there this to me is like oh yep this is where the ic title usually sits when becky's not
00:31:30got it yeah this did feel like a major step down for this title that felt like had real relevance a
00:31:35few weeks back even last week but you know it is usually the person who makes the title and as great
00:31:41as the maxine story's been she is barely a mid-carder i well i'm gonna put i disagree with you on that
00:31:50one you are right that uh the title does not make the man the man makes the title is the the phrase
00:31:55within uh wrestling so yes the woman makes the title but if you just give your your champion lower
00:32:01level people it makes you look lower level it's the same with kofi kingston when he went to the ww
00:32:06title they just put him against mid-carders which makes him feel like a mid-card champion
00:32:11but if you put two people in there with people who feel like main event like the second ivy nile
00:32:15walks up and i was like i don't think you've had a match all year yeah i think the last one was
00:32:19losing in an intercontinental title matches pre-becky yeah bailey's not doing anything
00:32:24lyra's not doing anything exactly could have them walk in and they would feel much bigger in terms of
00:32:30like on-screen presence than ivy nile does no disrespect to ivy nile but that's just a you know a
00:32:35victim of the booking of not being used on tv yeah so not not an optimistic first
00:32:40bit for maxine uh i think natalia is going to return and turn heel and that'll be a big feud
00:32:47stephanie vaker has a pre-film promo on nikki bella which is fine and then we get the main event of the
00:32:54usos versus logan paul and drew mcintyre winner gets the advantage in the war games match it rough
00:33:00going yeah rough going for logan and jay you can tell when someone has not had time to rehearse their
00:33:06match that's things just sometimes go awry there was about 10 seconds of just them
00:33:13stumbling yeah while hugging well yeah my guess is that jay was trying to lift him up into like a
00:33:20fireman's carry type thing but logan was trying to get into a different position and they just sort of
00:33:24in the end just both fell i thought drew was great though drew would suplex jay when he was working him
00:33:30over and then he did the shall we run it back and then he hit another one and of course on the third
00:33:36one jay fires back uh logan and drew actually they were a quite fun heel act together outside of the
00:33:42in-ring wrestling um and then breaker and bronson inevitably show up then cody and punk run down
00:33:49it's quite predictable jay even though jimmy holds down the top rope jay just clears it for a big dive
00:33:57outside but then logan gets a roll up on jimmy when everyone's taken out a surprise roll up
00:34:02to get the advantage yeah what i really liked here was logan gets the win one two three he stands up
00:34:08to celebrate punk is already in there beating him up yeah it was really nice because that is you're
00:34:13gonna be your world title program um obviously not sat on its main events but maybe that'll be one of
00:34:17the december like the january 1st episodes oh yeah punk and logan are feuding oh my god i forgot
00:34:23about that well yeah it's good you know you press pause because we've got to do war games but then
00:34:27you're going to pick that story back up games is done oh well something to look forward to
00:34:31and then everyone's out there's a big war games brawl and the faces stand tall because the heels
00:34:38are a man disadvantage so here comes brock lesnar and paul hayman he gets on the ramp the the music's
00:34:46going and he does his like beast pose he stomps down with the pyro and he slips backwards
00:34:54full credit to the guy he then turns this into an a really seamless backwards roll yeah he might he
00:35:03should make this part of his entrance all the time yeah and he didn't stand up and try to pretend that
00:35:07it didn't happen and just like his trousers ripping on smackdown stood up laughed his tits off that
00:35:14something silly has happened on the show that he cares very little about and he makes a big old
00:35:18joke of it hayman's laughing too the rest of the heel team are trying to be serious
00:35:24and yeah as he said earlier brock puts the cowboy hat on bron which now just feels like he's covering
00:35:36for the mistake as opposed to a big storyline point um it was hilarious very funny couldn't happen to
00:35:44a nicer guy but but yeah it does it does undermine a lot of what they were trying to do yeah i don't
00:35:52see what else these things happen he slipped and this is the best way to deal with it then it surprised
00:35:57me the most is it's not edited off the youtube version yeah i was fully expecting to go onto the
00:36:03youtube i actually went i was like i bet you they've edited out on this and they haven't it's there in all
00:36:07of its glory and all of the comments i just like in 2014 he introduced introduced us to suplex city
00:36:152025 slip x city slip x city very good uh overall go home episode for survivor series wasn't like it
00:36:26was a it was just an average level show i've seen all the big stuff already like last week's show felt
00:36:31way bigger and the week before that um i guess you do there is a scene a sized hole really well yeah
00:36:37and a return sized hole as well we said this on last week's episode last week's episode was awesome
00:36:44but you cannot do that episode every week it is a cheat code episode having four returns title changes
00:36:50johnson like there it's in built within the code that that's going to be a really good episode of raw
00:36:56it's almost impossible for that episode of raw not to feel good but when you don't have any of that to
00:37:00fall back on it is just an episode of raw and because you haven't got that stuff it's just like
00:37:05yeah it's all right and i had a good time with it i had a fun time with it breathed through it because
00:37:10a lot of it was entrances so yeah it's all right well yeah it was all right i thought the dominic
00:37:16stuff was was bad uh and also just the yeah the entrances it felt like the the tide had gone out
00:37:24after the excitement of last week's show and just so many entrances at the expense of wrestling and
00:37:32storylines and character i'm a bit like come on you're better than this yeah but it's there for
00:37:37the live and the live crowd are there and they want to see all of the stars come out and do their
00:37:42entrances and they got to see all of that so the people who paid for their ticket got exactly what
00:37:46they wanted to see but this is a this is you are conditioning the audience to only want the
00:37:51entrances like this is they already have they already have yes so and i don't agree with that
00:37:55i don't think that's a good idea i think they should enjoy other parts of wrestling it's like
00:38:00you know that all these veterans and people probably within wwe at the top will criticize other wrestling
00:38:05companies for being about high spots and they don't see the the cheapest pop is the entrance no i mean
00:38:12it's it's not a it's not a they do see it it's just that they won't talk about it yeah yeah good
00:38:17point but yeah i think it's a this felt like a lazy way of booking an episode relying so much on
00:38:25those cheap pops and they are going to then struggle i mean not struggle too much because
00:38:29roman will be around a bit more now as we get towards royal rumble season and then into wrestlemania
00:38:33season but man i said this on last week's show once you get past wrestlemania and all those part
00:38:38timers take their time off you're not left with a lot of those stars anymore well should we get into
00:38:45our patreon chats patreon.com forward slash wrestle talk there will be a post that goes up there
00:38:50immediately after the shows and you can put your thoughts on there if you are a patron and we'll
00:38:56read out the best on here absolutely yes and we're going to kick things off with felius zhang who says
00:39:02it's a little hypocritical of you lads complaining about how a four hour long pay-per-view is too long
00:39:06and then you post a four hour long podcast yeah
00:39:10but i would say our podcasts are meant to be enjoyed over multiple hour long sittings like i do
00:39:19with my you know four hour podcasts i listen to like dan carlin yeah and when i listen to talking
00:39:24simpsons i very rarely listen to uh their big four five hour epic podcasts in one sitting whereas
00:39:30the pay-per-views are meant to be sat through in one go yes and as you can tell the live crowd got tired
00:39:36yeah and i'm not asking people to listen to it live either with a bunch you know with 10 000 other
00:39:41people at midnight but let's be honest zhang that's a two hour on double speed that's how most people are
00:39:47listening to that uh brandon said uh this who's the leader thing should have been a story from week
00:39:52two of the team forming not an idea introduced on the go home show i don't care if you don't have
00:39:57roman start the story with punk cody jay still trying to be little roman before introducing roman
00:40:02who also sees himself as the leader to cause extra drama it was an overall fine episode overall
00:40:07besides a great match from good friend mellow and a hilarious becky lynch trump promo it was
00:40:11very forgettable also pending getting injured as soon as the lucha bros reunite hilariously continues
00:40:15ray phoenix's tag partner curse yeah that is unfortunate isn't it cammy g60 yo first of all salute to you
00:40:23guys i've adopted the tlc type format for rap battles and the follow people who follow my channel
00:40:28love it but man the editing is rough how do you do what like the best rap battles i guess so yeah
00:40:35ranking these yeah uh battle rounds good uh in the this week's raw as fun as it was in different
00:40:40areas i'm hating the endings where it fades to black in the middle of main event segments
00:40:44they hyped up that brock was coming for roman for the very start and and in the middle too but as
00:40:49soon as we are going to get the payoff it cuts to black and end of the stream feels like i'm dunking
00:40:54my biscuit of choice then watch it dissolve miserably in my tea instead it's a it's an
00:40:59image we all know um that yeah i know what you mean but there is also an argument do not give that
00:41:06bit away because that's the tease for the pay-per-view that's i completely agree with you actually i think
00:41:10it ended at the right moment i think it was quite cheap on two weeks in a row to do the executive
00:41:16credits that's the end of the show david duel overall thoughts on the show feels like war games is the
00:41:21only thing that matters everything else goes uh gets put into neutral i'll be happy when we get
00:41:26to the rumble time yeah because then at least everyone has stories about them wanting to win
00:41:32something yeah talk talk punch uh i don't know if it's just me and maybe we've just had better women
00:41:39on the mic over the past 10 years but i'm not enjoying aj lee's mic work maybe she was great in
00:41:44the divas era but i don't think she's a great promo also why are both usos coming out to jay's
00:41:48entrance song that says it's just me because it's over and people like to yeet yeah i uh and what is
00:41:55jimmy's entrance music it'd be funny if yeah jay comes out to it's just me and then jimmy comes out
00:42:04to the original usos tag music i i know what you mean about aj lee when she came back i was really
00:42:10excited and i was just happy to see her back but the this promo here and you know maybe one of the
00:42:18promos in the build to the tag match uh with her and punk it is a bit it's her character it's her
00:42:26style of doing the promos but it doesn't get me going no i never particularly liked aj's promos
00:42:32back in the day either um but that was also because i didn't like a lot of things that were on the show
00:42:36that was just another one of the things that i was not vibing with i quite i like her as a performer
00:42:40but i never really got on with her promos but now it does feel like it's kind of out of place with
00:42:45everything else that people are doing but it is unique it is it's true to her character so i do
00:42:50appreciate it from that aspect of it it kind of feels like it's one of those there's a really
00:42:53interesting comment that was left on our tlc episode that i really loved mostly because it
00:42:58was backing up what i said um when i put um money the bank uh low on my uh list of best cena matches
00:43:05which a lot of people did disagree with and i don't disagree with those people in their opinions
00:43:09but someone has a really interesting point which i've never thought about which is that match
00:43:13works if you were there at the time and it's like if you go back and watch it if you don't
00:43:18have any of the context for it it's actually not like you know it's full of botches and this that
00:43:21and the other but it's it's important to you and i because we were there at the time but if you
00:43:27weren't there at the time for it it just sort of like means nothing to you in the same way that if
00:43:31you weren't there for aj's promos back in the day maybe you don't get all of the great stuff
00:43:35great character work that she was doing back in the day great job weaving how you were right
00:43:41i'm not saying i was right i just said that one person agreed with me not everyone did and i
00:43:45think those people are fine uh will be i shut it off after the little cena segment just too much
00:43:49of vince wwe feel down to the small jokes from wade it's just uncomfortable to watch that behavior
00:43:54anymore yeah i wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater i think you can use little people
00:44:00in wrestling um but it just needs to if you're gonna do it you have to do it well and and you know
00:44:06have some actual substance there and i don't think this accomplished that right should we get into
00:44:09our predictions for survivor yes yes with the championship it's not on the floor on the line
00:44:18uh let's go through the other two matches that are on this show before we get to the war game stuff
00:44:22stephanie vacca defends the women's world championship against nikki bella
00:44:26do we yeah stephanie's stephanie vacca and and maybe nikki bella will go away now uh for the
00:44:33intercontinental championship john cena defends against dominic mysterio i think this is dominic winning it
00:44:38back because i don't see john cena versus gunther being for the ic title it could it could be but
00:44:47yeah if john cena doesn't lose it here then it's on the line in his retirement match i think that
00:44:53complicates that plus it lets cena put over what a lot of people believe to be the future of wwe which
00:45:01is dom i guarantee you if dom is winning this match which i think is quite likely if he wins this match
00:45:07john cena is getting a visual pin maybe even two so you'll gain dom yeah i quite like the idea that
00:45:16the scene of tournament is for the ic title and it's not just a retirement match not just his final
00:45:21match it's also with some stakes that we're going to get a new ic champion out of it and gunther
00:45:26reclaiming that ic title isn't really the worst position for him because he's not going to be in
00:45:31the world title scene anytime soon he's not going to be in the world title scene come wrestlemania
00:45:35so i don't think that's actually the end of the world i quite quite like that and also it just
00:45:40means that john cena's got at least one title defense under his belt as opposed to winning it
00:45:45then losing it two weeks later but that's fitting for cena's career which is crap so what what are you
00:45:53going to go for then have you talked yourself into cena for the sake of difference i'm gonna say
00:45:59seen um okay well now here's the real big stuff well should we should we do who we think's gonna
00:46:04win first and then we'll do the orders okay so we got uh team uh good lady rhea ripley eosuke
00:46:10alexa bliss charlotte flair and h.a lee taking on nia jacks lash legend the kabuki warriors and
00:46:14becky lynch in war games i love the idea team good lady oh yes good lady uh these both of these are
00:46:24quite hard to pick i don't really i don't really know what way they're gonna go because it feels
00:46:30quite inconsequential i get i feel like so spoilers for the men's i think the heel side of the men's
00:46:38team is winning their one which then makes me think that the baby face side of the women's one is winning
00:46:43their match yeah hmm i like but you know when maybe it's aj pinning becky again to set up the
00:46:52eventual aj versus becky singles match um well that's what i had in my previous booking yeah and
00:46:59that would facilitate an ic title match between becky and aj lee that's why i thought we were
00:47:04heading but it's not in there anymore is it but i don't see like you know naya getting a win doesn't
00:47:09really do much of anything like i think really it does boil down to if it's becky or aj that gets
00:47:14the win because i don't think yeah lash ask or kairi saying any of them getting the win over the
00:47:20babyface team doesn't do much for them personally in the same way i don't think it does anything for
00:47:25the other babyfaces to get the win over any of the heels yeah there's there's more possible winners
00:47:30on the babyface team because they can set up future matches so aj lee pinning becky
00:47:35or ria eo alexa or charlotte pinning one of the kabuki warriors to get the tag to get a tag title
00:47:42so yeah i would agree good lady team good lady for the win yeah and i think it's aj pinning jackie
00:47:49or aj tapping out becky and the men's is team good men versus cm punk or sorry team cody of cm punk
00:47:58cody roads the usos and roman reigns taking on bronbreaker bronson reed logan paul drew mcintyre and
00:48:02brock lesnar and man we said this before but if you'd put cena in this match that is star studded
00:48:08even without cena it's pretty star studded yeah yeah yeah it's it's one of the biggest star power
00:48:16war games matches they've ever done like even just on the men's side like i think jimmy's the one who
00:48:20sticks out like a sore thumb a little bit unfortunately but that is like it's punk said
00:48:24on the show it's an all-star team but you you also said heel you think a heel victory here
00:48:30yeah and what story happens in that for that to happen it's punk and roman combusting
00:48:38see they so punk and roman that was the tease last year but actually punk and roman worked
00:48:44together really well and it was all based around the favor punk wanted to win and help so he could
00:48:50get the favor for mania so then you can do the combusting this year and you can have logan paul
00:48:57pin cm punk to set up the title map but bron break is just there in the cuck chair
00:49:05well it's not gonna be bron is it well you know like that's roman could pin bronson reed that was
00:49:13my other one i had that was yeah because then roman gets a victory back without actually harming reed as
00:49:20much because it's taking a pin in a multi-person match that's what i said in my three count was he
00:49:24yeah i said i feel if jimmy usso takes the pin it's like what's the point
00:49:29yes look if if the good team lose i want it to be punk cody or roman taking the pin because that
00:49:40feels like a big thing that's happened feels significant but i think really the history of
00:49:44war games is wwe not doing that yeah by i think you can have roman hitting the spear
00:49:52on punk and then having an altercation with like some some words with j usso geo so seeing what
00:49:58going down the roman path might lead you towards but it can't work for him and the logan paul
00:50:04steals the win on on punk and also if you get logan punk you can have a battle of the buckshot lariats
00:50:10uh yeah that's uh i don't want punk to get injured again yeah hopefully no injuries in this match
00:50:19bronson reed you know i 100 he's getting up to do that that splash do you think yeah i took this
00:50:25and they'll make a huge deal out of it he he broke his foot the last time he did this or whatever it
00:50:30was i yeah i'm going with logan paul pinning cm punk to set up their world title match that they
00:50:37will do on january uh the first episode of january on netflix the only caveat to that is that i have
00:50:44often talked about how you have winners win matches to set up other matches and then wwe often don't do
00:50:50that they just do the matches anyway something that's unfortunately steered me correctly throughout
00:50:56this year with wwe booking is what is the safest most conservative route and i'm just trying to put my
00:51:04i'm putting myself in triple h's suit and i'm looking at this and i'm going well the team with punk
00:51:12cody and roman can't lose they're our biggest draws i'm gonna go for a baby face win okay so
00:51:19who's getting the win who's taking the pin
00:51:21roman's pinning bronson yeah that's that's the best option yeah yeah because it's not gonna be
00:51:31brock yeah and the the i guess i think i had this in my three can as well as that brock
00:51:36attacks uh brom breaker gives him the f5 that's it that's another point yeah they can combust that way
00:51:42yeah because they need to set up that match for wrestlemania because that has been the long
00:51:45reported plan okay well that's our overall predictions but the the one that actually has
00:51:50the championship on the line oh look at the the graphics here
00:51:56we'll do the women first so women one and one it doesn't matter which order they come out in
00:52:02it's just one and one so who are you having starting your women's war games match we'll alternate
00:52:11eo sky and aska eo sky for you and aska um i am gonna go yeah i think ripley's gonna be a later
00:52:22entrant they wouldn't put aj lee out there for so long so i think eo sky is gonna be the number one
00:52:30and aska's the best worker so i'm also gonna go eo sky and aska but to make it juicy aska
00:52:38and eo sky do you know who gets the advantage yes because they taped it on last week so it's the
00:52:46heels no spoilers why do you do that because the heels have got the advantage of the men's one
00:52:51so do you got to do the bait so it's got it you've got to do it spoilers for smackdown uh charlotte
00:52:55flair pins aska to get the advantage okay so the so that i'll go first next i am gonna say
00:53:03alexa bliss comes out next but is taken out which is how the heels then have the advantage
00:53:11taken out by whom somebody
00:53:14surely there's someone else yeah
00:53:20alexa bliss who's coming out next for you this is coming on someone on the baby face side
00:53:27oh man it's actually sucked but i'm actually saying alexa bliss as well it's okay it's okay
00:53:34okay so you go first for the fourth person uh kairi sane to complete the uh kabuki warriors lineup in
00:53:46the heel training i'm gonna go naya jack's monster she can start really dominating oh my god
00:53:56not only do they have the advantage but naya jack she's like three women uh so me first next i'll put
00:54:03lash in there so you think it's going to be uh the heels and then another heel is coming out
00:54:09good point so naya jack's charlotte flair will come out next because she will she will be avenging
00:54:19bliss yeah so i need someone from my you need a baby face i've got one of my baby faces is it next
00:54:27i was gonna say flair to come out to say bliss
00:54:30yeah i'm gonna say flair both got charlotte flair for the fifth entrant then i'm gonna say kairi
00:54:45saying okay no no i'm gonna stick with lash legend lash legend comes out next uh so i've then got one of
00:54:51my heels come out so now i'm gonna do uh naya jack's so i think i went too early there so you go
00:54:58next uh naya jack so on the baby face side then it will be uh rhea ripley rhea bloody ripley i am
00:55:05also gonna go rhea bloody ripley i think they save aj lee to the end and then do lash legend
00:55:11then you've got lash legend and i have kairi sane which doesn't sound right that feels like she should
00:55:18be in way earlier like i think there's actually every chance she starts yeah yeah yeah yeah i go
00:55:23that you can switch asuka and kairi sane um but i've gone with asuka um so the final baby face
00:55:32good lady is going to be aj lee yep uh and how have i got different how's one different from yours
00:55:40what have i gone wrong here what's different well i haven't got i haven't got i haven't written down
00:55:46becky lynch yet oh it's because we haven't got the becky yet oh yeah aj lee and then becky and we both
00:55:51got becky lynch as the final person coming out yeah i think she could come out earlier but uh let's
00:55:59stick with that well the thing is if you if lynch comes out i don't know who is the final entrance
00:56:03for the only one i can see is doing nia jack's because then she can come in or probably more safely
00:56:08doing lash legends now there's what wwe will probably do for the men's match which is play it
00:56:15safe so some version of jimmy usso and bron breaker or drew mcintyre i am gonna go big i'm gonna go with
00:56:24what i want the match to do because i feel like the women's one i was trying to guess what wwe are doing
00:56:30so i am starting with drew mcintyre and cm punk recapturing their feud very nice i'm going with
00:56:42jimmy usso to start for the baby faces you're getting the opposite tag and bronson reed
00:56:48okay so the i need a heel coming out um to work against punk and it'll be it'll be logan paul
00:56:58i'm gonna have logan paul out next uh for me it will be bron breaker coming out for the heels
00:57:05so you've got the bronson and bron dynamic i'm keeping breaker and lesnar in the shark cage
00:57:12so they're like being tense yeah being tense um and then you're having as a baby face my baby
00:57:21face it will then be jay usso i am also then having jay usso no i'm gonna have jimmy usso
00:57:30come out next and then for a heel that is when so brock lesnar's gonna come out last
00:57:37so i'm gonna have bron breaker out next again keeping sorry bronson reed keeping breaker and
00:57:45lesnar in that uh cage together uh i will then go for my heels be drew mcintyre drew mcintyre he's
00:57:57always in these matches and then cm punk cm punk comes out next a nice little riff so my baby face i've
00:58:07had cody and roman i'm you know what i'm gonna put cody roads in next because i like jay and roman
00:58:18being in the cage together on one side i'm breaker and lesnar being in the cage on the other yeah i
00:58:24think they've got good relationships um so for the next person you know what i'm going brock lesnar
00:58:34breaker goes to the go out and lesnar hayman says no we need lesnar in there now okay there's a war
00:58:43a war games veteran uh paul hayman it's a tactics thing it's a tactics thing i know that that goes
00:58:49against lesnar does minimal work at all times uh who have you got for the heels for my heels i have
00:58:57got logan paul great i am not bringing out brock lesnar well that's good because drew mcintyre comes
00:59:04out for yours then it's cm punk then it's logan paul that's all connected and who are you having for
00:59:11your baby face cody cody roads is at number eight i have now i'm gonna have jay uso for mine then of
00:59:22course i'm gonna have bron breaker yep and then it will be brock lesnar brock lesnar for you and
00:59:27finally roman reigns roman reigns we both got roman reigns coming out last i love your optimism that
00:59:34bron breaker is saved for the last position in war games but it's it's the further that huge push
00:59:40it's had on tv it's that what you said because of the cowboy hat it's the further the lesnar hayman
00:59:47breaker yeah i'm trying him i'm trying to find some stories dude i hope you're right i hope that
00:59:53you are right because i think it's in the men's one i have gone with the safest option that for me i
01:00:00think is the most formulaic way yeah you can do i'm not saying it's bad i'm just saying that is the
01:00:07most formulaic way to send those people out jimmy uso goes out first he is the weak link of their team
01:00:13in terms of your position on the card and you're saving roman reigns and brock lesnar and cody roads
01:00:18and punk for the end you're saving all your big stars for the end and also you're putting out uh
01:00:22the guy who's going against punk next for the title one after the other yeah i i am playing it very safe
01:00:28with the men's one the women's one i'm a bit more i've sort of like just gone with like the tag teams
01:00:32come out one after the other and then you end with becky and uh aj yeah so i don't think i've gone
01:00:38safe on the other one but i think i've gone very safe with the men's yeah um okay so the way it
01:00:43all score is if any of these are correct we get a point so it's not that they have to be
01:00:48if one is out it's all void it's if nijax comes out at number four yeah i get a point yes right um
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