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American Monster Season 13 Episode 5
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00:00Isn't that cute?
00:02Yeah, beautiful.
00:04Thank you for modeling for us.
00:06Grandma Vicki was always a huge ball of light.
00:12Everybody was welcome with open arms.
00:16Ryan was just a funny, cute kid.
00:19Oh, buddy, no!
00:21What is that bag?
00:23But as he grew older, that's when trouble started.
00:26Vicki's fear was pretty intense,
00:31but her love for Ryan was awesome.
00:34Mom, for your own safety,
00:37get him out of that house.
00:39Lifetime worth of hate and anger.
00:43Just brutality and savagery.
00:56So that's her.
01:03I'm trying to remember what's in there.
01:05Oh.
01:06That's Debbie's.
01:07I know what's in there.
01:09That's my one.
01:10It's pizza.
01:11Woo-hoo!
01:12Woo!
01:1355-year-old Vicki Burks is enjoying the festive season
01:16with her family.
01:17I sit at my parents' house,
01:19but my mom's handing out presents.
01:21Ryan is playing a game in the background,
01:25sitting next to my mom.
01:27When things like this would happen,
01:28like Christmas time and stuff,
01:30he kept to himself for the most part.
01:33Christmas was probably the most exciting time for Vicki.
01:37It's purple, baby.
01:38Don't look.
01:39It's got my heart on it.
01:40I've got my girlfriend.
01:41Grandma really did love Ryan.
01:43So anytime the whole family was together,
01:45she was as happy as could be.
01:47Vicki is born in Bradenton, Florida, in 1953.
01:56But when she is young,
01:58the family moved to Ohio,
02:00where she meets Martin Burks.
02:02Vicki went to Cumstall High School,
02:04and our first date was actually a Swedish day dance.
02:08Me and Vicki got married on July 17, 1971.
02:13I was 19 and Vicki was 18 years old.
02:18It was a great day.
02:23Mike was born on November 26, 1971.
02:26Definitely exciting, you know.
02:29Brand new start.
02:31New house.
02:32New family.
02:34Jason was born in March, 1976.
02:39And it seemed good at the time.
02:45I believed she would always be like that.
02:49I wasn't the one that saw the problems.
02:52She did.
02:56It probably started around 1985,
02:59and it just developed from that point forward.
03:04We got divorced.
03:05After that, she was seeing this young guy,
03:08and she ended up marrying him.
03:10It wasn't very long.
03:13It took for Vicki to realize
03:15that things just weren't quite the way
03:17she had hoped they would be.
03:20Now, she's six months pregnant.
03:22She called me one day and made the comment
03:25that she just wasn't very happy.
03:27And I said, tell me what you want to do.
03:30I'll see what I can do to help you out.
03:32And we made arrangements for her
03:35to come back to Springfield.
03:39Vicki came back in 1986, in December.
03:42Come on, Mom.
03:43You're on camera.
03:45Hand and camera.
03:47We were just kind of happy to have my mom back
03:49and her parents back together.
03:51But when she moved back, she was already pregnant
03:54with my younger brother.
03:56Ryan was born on May 1, 1987.
04:02I was excited.
04:03I was happy that it was happening.
04:06I was 11 years old when Ryan was born.
04:10I was really looking forward to being an older brother.
04:14Dad took him and raised him as his own.
04:17It's May, 1988.
04:21The family celebrate Ryan's first birthday.
04:26Ryan's sitting on my mom's lap.
04:28So they're just unwrapping presents.
04:30Can you get the hang of it?
04:32Yeah!
04:34Vicki loved her sons tremendously.
04:36She really did.
04:38Oh, Vicki was quite protective of her.
04:45Because she felt like she was the only one that he had.
04:53I told Vicki that he's just like the other two boys.
04:56There'll be no difference.
04:58He called me Dad all the time.
05:00Because, you know, I was there from day one.
05:02This is when we got remarried in Kentucky.
05:11I was excited.
05:13It was back together.
05:15We were happy.
05:17And now I've got three kids.
05:25We moved into the house on Mill Urbana.
05:28That house, in my eyes, was my last home.
05:39The Burks family gathered to celebrate Jason's high school graduation.
05:44Check, check, check.
05:45Hello, all there.
05:47All my family was there.
05:48My friends, my band at the time was there.
05:50It's time to wake up the neighborhood.
05:53My mom's in a good mood.
05:54She's excited.
05:55Her baby graduated.
05:57Oh, she was bubbly.
06:00Any music, you get her going.
06:04One of my friends come over that was trying to introduce me to somebody.
06:09That person would end up being my first wife.
06:12Mama Burke's down there with her two sons.
06:15I'm going to bring her down the alley.
06:18And nearly three years later, in January 1997,
06:2220-year-old Jason ties the knot.
06:24Vicky was definitely excited about Jason getting married.
06:28It was a big deal.
06:29Mr. and Mrs. Jason Burks.
06:32Ryan didn't want his brother to get married.
06:35He didn't want him being with this girl.
06:39You know, she's invading my area.
06:41Actually, the day of the wedding, he behaved.
06:47But he was only nine, see.
06:49He wasn't really acting up a lot then.
06:52But as he grew older, that's when trouble started.
06:56My first child, Christina, was born on March 29, 1999.
07:12Because my mom never had a daughter of her own,
07:16this was her chance to raise a girl.
07:19Say hi, Papa.
07:21Yeah.
07:23What happened to this one?
07:25Grandma's helping me open my presents.
07:27All of the gifts.
07:29Grandma absolutely spoiling us.
07:31Christina.
07:33Hi, Christina.
07:34Hi, Christina.
07:35Here's Ryan.
07:37Ryan was 11 years old when Christina was born.
07:42Being an uncle was one of the few things he actually cared about.
07:46I always thought of Ryan as, like, my big brother.
07:52My nickname for him was literally Uncle Bubba,
07:55because I couldn't say brother.
07:57And I followed him around everywhere, like a lost puppy,
08:00any time I was over at my grandparents'.
08:07In a way, it was me and Uncle Bubba against the world.
08:13Play it, Ry.
08:16Ryan wasn't super popular.
08:18He had some friends.
08:21Once he started hanging out with the wrong crowd,
08:23getting out a negative reaction for him
08:26was his form of entertainment.
08:28Talking to yourself?
08:30No, I'm talking to him.
08:32If he could make you angry,
08:34he would laugh.
08:41When Ryan is 14 years old,
08:44he has his first run-in with the police.
08:47When I got home from work,
08:49I got a phone call from the Sheriff's Department.
08:52And they were holding Ryan.
08:55The deputy sheriff explains to us
08:58that these boys were in the press box
09:01at the football field at Kenton Ridge.
09:06They had gotten onto the loudspeaker
09:09and were shouting profanities
09:11for the whole neighborhood to hear.
09:13He had to apologize to the school
09:16for what he had done.
09:17He got a small fine.
09:20And he had to do community work.
09:23It didn't seem to phase Ryan.
09:27He didn't care at all.
09:29It was quite apparent how much different he was
09:33from the other two boys.
09:35I mean, it was like night and day.
09:37And it just kept getting worse.
09:38There's two paths you can go along.
09:40The right way of doing something
09:42and the completely wrong way.
09:44He would always choose the wrong path.
09:46Every single time.
09:48Mike needs a Santa Claus outfit on.
09:51He looks like Santa Claus sitting there handing out gifts.
09:52So this is Christmas of 2001.
09:55That's my brother Mike there.
09:59And there's my mom.
10:00My dad's filming.
10:02So you didn't get down that place when we happened.
10:04Let me get this.
10:06I had bought that three, four weeks in advance of what you told me.
10:11And then there's blue eyes.
10:13Christmas for Ryan.
10:15As he got older, he didn't partake as much.
10:18He would look at his gifts and open them.
10:20And then he would be gone.
10:22I don't see you now.
10:24I don't see you now.
10:26I'm sorry.
10:27I'm sorry.
10:29I'm sorry.
10:31I'm sorry.
10:33I'm sorry.
10:35I'm sorry.
10:37I'm sorry.
10:39I'm sorry.
10:41I'm sorry.
10:43Ryan spent probably six, seven hours a day playing video games.
10:49It kept him from getting in trouble more than anything.
10:57In 2002, Ryan was charged with disorderly conduct from yelling out death threats out of the car.
11:04That was new.
11:06He never did that before.
11:08Ryan has to pay a fine and attend counseling.
11:10I could see that this was just going to keep getting worse.
11:17We were at the point then that we just didn't know what to do.
11:21Stephanie.
11:23Hi.
11:25Hi.
11:27Hi.
11:28My second child Stephanie was born on January 26, 2003.
11:34Hanging out with me and my sister really helped my grandma take a step back from living with Ryan.
11:42And the other one goes with the other one.
11:44We were her highlighter of life's innocence, in a way.
11:49I see, baby girl.
11:51I see.
11:53Mike is playing Santa Claus.
11:54He needs his outfit on.
11:56Thank you, Mikey.
11:58There's another one of those that say Christina.
12:00Do you want to put this one on?
12:02That says Ryan.
12:04That doesn't have a problem.
12:06Ryan got a closer.
12:08I think that we probably thought that he'll grow up, he'll mature and he'll settle down.
12:15But that never really happened.
12:17It only progressed worse and worse.
12:21Yeah, Ryan took it off when he's mad.
12:24He's always...
12:25In January 2004, the court places 16-year-old Ryan on probation indefinitely for drug abuse.
12:33The way I saw Ryan growing up and all of his violent outbursts, that was just Ryan being Ryan.
12:40I had this idealized version of my uncle that was Uncle Bubba, and that was the good person that I knew.
12:51But Ryan was the monster that everybody else knew.
12:55They were two different people, but the same entity.
13:03In 2004, Ryan decided to take Vicki's car out, which he wasn't allowed to.
13:08When he got home after that incident, Vicki was going to call the cops and report a stolen car.
13:19And he said, if you call the cops, I'm going to hurt you.
13:25We're constantly trying to figure out what to do.
13:28How do we deal with it?
13:30The court charges Ryan with menacing and violating his probation.
13:34They place him in juvenile detention for a minimum of six months.
13:40The last time he went to juvenile, he was turning 18 at that time.
13:44The judge straight up told him, he said, if you don't straighten your act up, you won't be going to juvenile now.
13:52You'll be going to the jail.
13:55Vicki still was his mother.
13:58And I kept telling her, let him figure this out.
14:01And she couldn't do it.
14:03She couldn't stop taking care of it.
14:05I wasn't scared of Ryan.
14:07I felt off by his energy.
14:12Hey, we're here today.
14:16I'm going to introduce you to a movie.
14:19So this is Ryan filming.
14:22Now across the street, they had just built some new houses for a senior community.
14:26I'm going to tell you a story during this movie.
14:32See over there?
14:35That's where the old people live.
14:37And Ryan got in trouble a few times there, too, because they called the police on him.
14:41Man, these .
14:43They don't like me right now.
14:45I was hoping that once Ryan matured, things would get better and they only got worse.
14:52In May 2006, Ryan hits another car and speeds off.
14:59He is charged with one count of hit and run.
15:03We get a call from the sheriff's department to come pick him up, which I did.
15:08He come back and he was just mad as a horn at everybody.
15:15I told him to leave the house, go find some place to stay, but you're not living here.
15:19I was chasing him out of the house.
15:23And he started just going in the kitchen and that's where Vicki was standing.
15:27Ryan ended up pushing my mom down and she fell on her arm, broke her arm at four places.
15:34And from there, he went into the front room where Mike was standing.
15:39He pushed him down and kicked him in the face.
15:42Police were called and then he was arrested.
15:45Ryan was charged with domestic violence.
15:49They served him 180 days, but they reduced that to 90.
15:55Ryan never showed any remorse over that. None.
16:00He was still angry because he got 90 days in jail.
16:03Every time I kicked him out, she would let him back in the house.
16:09And I kept telling her not to do that.
16:12She just couldn't do it.
16:14Where is he going to go?
16:16What's he going to do?
16:18As bad as Ryan treated my mom, my mom still loved him.
16:22My mom still protected him.
16:23I'm like, Mom, something bad is going to happen.
16:29Get him out of that house.
16:30Mike passed away in December of 2007.
16:47He was driving to work one day, had a massive heart attack and died instantly.
16:57Probably the worst day of my life.
17:01Mike, see ya. Root the bingos on to victory.
17:06Mike was kind of the glue to kind of help keep them all together.
17:09Ryan is back in jail on drug-related charges, but attends the funeral with a deputy sheriff.
17:20So when Ryan came to the funeral, he was shackled by his ankles and by his wrists.
17:27Ryan's crying his eyes out.
17:29And I was kind of in shock because that's the first time I really saw Ryan show that kind of emotion.
17:34And I remember going up to him, I gave him a hug, and I'm like, Ryan, we got to stick together.
17:50Christina, be sure above us if you want to give them to him.
17:54It's Christmas 2008, and Ryan's at home again with his family.
17:58If you look, he's not interested in anything that's going on at this point.
18:01I didn't want him to come back home. I really didn't.
18:082009, I was driving Ryan and a friend to his party.
18:14We got in an argument because I didn't want his friend in my truck.
18:18I was mad. I said, I am not taking that kid anywhere.
18:22I don't want him around you.
18:24Ryan was smoking a cigarette, and he put it out my cheek.
18:27Then I filed charges.
18:28I was the only one that wasn't scared, because I knew I could handle it.
18:37But Vicki was the only one I was concerned about.
18:42I didn't know Ryan was capable of such violence.
18:46I'm like, Mom, keep him out of that house. He is going to kill you.
18:53But her reaction was, I don't know what to do. He's my son. I can't let him live on the streets.
19:00One occasion, when we got home, the truck was missing.
19:06So I drove around, never found it. Come home, and there's the truck.
19:11So I walked in the house, and I told him, I said, you're not going to take that truck.
19:17I did report it stolen, because he shouldn't have been driving.
19:22When the police showed up at the house, they grabbed him and hauled him away.
19:29The police arrest Ryan because of an outstanding warrant for domestic violence from his attack against Martin.
19:36He was given nine months in prison.
19:38When Ryan was locked up, my parents were stress-free.
19:46But whenever Ryan would come back, you could cut the tension with a knife.
19:53When you come out of prison, he was definitely worse. He was nasty.
19:59I had to put a lock on my bedroom door to keep him out.
20:04We never knew at any time what he was going to do or when or to who.
20:12We were so desperate. We were trying to figure out how we could get him in a situation like a halfway house, just getting away from us.
20:23Vicki was so upset that she wrote a letter to the judge.
20:27I'll read it for you.
20:28Honorable Judge, Ryan Dillon is our son, and he threatens us daily.
20:35He says if he goes back to jail, when he comes back, he will kill us or burn the house down.
20:43We feel our safety is a concern.
20:47We didn't get a whole lot of response from him, you know, because he's an adult.
20:52They were just trying anything.
20:57They needed help and they didn't know what to do.
21:02So I was trying to get my parents to move to Florida.
21:06My dad thought he could just buy a duplex and have Ryan live in one side.
21:12And then they could live in their separate house.
21:17They came down here to visit me just to see if they liked it.
21:22Ryan was acting great. He's very relaxed.
21:26We thought, OK, this might work.
21:29When we got back home from that vacation, things were normal for a short period of time.
21:35But then everything started coming back again.
21:40And it was progressively getting worse.
21:44Vicki's fear was pretty intense.
21:49But her love for Ryan was also.
21:53She just wanted what was best for him and to protect him.
21:57She was his mom.
21:58He just couldn't stand her.
22:03It was so obvious.
22:05You could see it.
22:11May 8th of 2012, I had come home from work and I noticed the pickup was missing.
22:19If Ryan got in an accident, we could get sued and lose everything just because of him.
22:28When he got home, Vicki was very upset.
22:32The main concern with Ryan was we had no idea what to expect.
22:39He was relentless.
22:41He would not let up on arguing with his mom.
22:44The argument continued until 1 o'clock in the morning.
22:50The worst part was him standing at the door, beating on it and screaming at both of us.
22:56He shouted.
22:58He might as well kill us both and just take everything.
23:04When I get up, I would give her a kiss before I went down and got cleaned up and went to work.
23:09After putting the lock on the door, I would lock it when I walked out just to make sure she was okay.
23:18I knew Ryan was awake because I could hear him in his room.
23:22I went to work because every day I'd come home at lunchtime.
23:28When I got home, Ryan was standing in the kitchen.
23:33That was not Ryan.
23:34He would normally be asleep.
23:36Ryan said to me, I wish she hadn't told mom about the truck.
23:43I asked Ryan, I said, hey, where's your mom?
23:46And his response was she went shopping with her sister.
23:50That was Vicki's day off.
23:52So I didn't think anything about it.
23:56After I went back to work and finished out my shift, I come back home and the truck was gone again.
24:03I'm looking around, Vicki's nowhere to be found.
24:10I called her sister and she informed me that she hadn't been with Vicki.
24:17Now I'm a little nervous, so I just kept calling everybody.
24:24No sign of Vicki anywhere.
24:26No sign of Vicki anywhere.
24:31919?
24:32Uh, yes.
24:33Um, I think I need to report a missing person.
24:35919?
24:369-1-1, what's going on, man?
24:49We have a son leaving with us, and you have records on him, I'm sure, Ryan Dillon.
24:54We have a pickup truck that's also missing, and my wife's car's here.
24:59She's not.
25:01As far as I can tell, she's been missing since at least six footers this morning.
25:07When the deputies arrived on the scene, they met with Martin Burks.
25:13I responded to meet with the uniformed sergeant and deputy that was on scene.
25:19Investigators take Martin to the sheriff's office to be questioned.
25:23I immediately called Clark County Prosecutor Andy Wilson.
25:27He found some smudges of blood and said, hey, Andy, something's not right at this scene.
25:32With my experience and gut instinct, it appeared that we might have had homicide on him.
25:41I request that Spatial Agent Brian White respond to process the scene.
25:46A lot of the bloodstains that we saw were airborne at one point, meaning they could have been discarded from some sort of weapon.
25:57You could see kind of the movement of where that blood had been flung.
26:04And it was right above where that chair was.
26:07And on the floor were a couple of divots.
26:11He's like, I think whatever happened, happened right here.
26:19The way the blood was disturbed, something had been dragged through it.
26:24Everything flows from the kitchen to the back porch.
26:27And there's a doorway there.
26:29Items were piled on top of it to make it look like it's never been used.
26:36However, those items also had bloodstains on them.
26:39And Brian said, I bet our bodies down there.
26:46It was an entrance into a cellar.
26:49We could immediately see bloodstains leading down from the steps.
26:56And at the bottom of the steps, we find a body.
27:07Martin Berg gave us information that she had a tattoo on her ankle.
27:13When we saw the body, we was able to see the tattoo.
27:15We were able to identify the body as Vicki Berg's.
27:22The trauma to her body was probably one of the worst I've seen.
27:26It looked to us that there was some sort of a blunt object that was used to beat her.
27:33We found in the laundry room there were clothes that tested positive for blood.
27:40Then we knew we did have a clean-up type situation.
27:45Everyone that was on scene or had contact with Vicki Berg's were considered a possible suspect.
27:52It was important for us to interview Martin.
27:55So you don't have anything to do with Vicki's disappearance?
27:58Yeah.
27:59How can you prove that?
28:01Because I was at work.
28:02She disappeared.
28:04The whole time.
28:04I clocked in at probably about 6, I'm guessing 6.38.
28:09I clocked out exactly at 3.15.
28:11But I didn't come home at lunch.
28:16So was Ryan home at 11.30?
28:2011.35, yeah.
28:21What was his demeanor?
28:23Calmer than he was the night before, quite a bit.
28:26So when Marty was interviewed by the sheriff's detectives,
28:29he gave a pretty good timeline of what he had done the morning that Vicki went missing.
28:34He made the comment at lunchtime today and wished I hadn't told him all of the truck being gone.
28:41I just kind of blew him off because I didn't want to get in an argument with him on my lunch break.
28:46I was able to obtain statements from his employers of his schedule for that day,
28:50verifying that he was at work.
28:52At around 10.30 that evening, our advocate and the detectives went in that interrogation room
29:01and told Marty that his wife was dead.
29:07I was shocked.
29:11I was upset.
29:13I was mad.
29:14First words out of my mouth is, Ryan did this.
29:20He made comments like, it's one of these days.
29:23One of these days, you people aren't going to wake up or something like that.
29:27You know, one of these days, I will get eaten.
29:30I wanted them to catch him so bad.
29:33And I didn't care what they did or how they did it.
29:37Based on the information that we received, Ryan Dillon was our prime suspect.
29:47When a suspect flees from a murder, somebody who's got a criminal history,
29:54you're worried about the safety of anybody who comes across him.
29:57At that point, it's a race against time to get him into custody before he can do something else.
30:02We had put a, be on the lookout for the Dodge Dakota pickup truck
30:07and checked to see if anybody may have ran the license plate.
30:12We had found that a deputy from Aldglase County, around 70, 80 miles north of Springfield,
30:18had stopped the pickup truck for a traffic violation at 2.29 p.m.
30:24The deputy found that it was Ryan Dillon that was driving the truck.
30:27He issued him a written warning and let him go about his way.
30:35As detectives are working to hunt down Ryan Dillon, the family received the devastating news.
30:42I get a call, and it's my dad.
30:46He said, Jay, I've got bad news.
30:49Your mom's dead.
30:51And it wasn't an accident.
30:53I said, oh my God, Ryan killed mom.
30:58And he's like, yes.
31:00All I can think of is, my brother's on the loose.
31:04Where's my kids?
31:06My mom sat me down on the couch, grabbed my hand, and she said,
31:10Ryan killed grandma.
31:12I remember just screaming, what?
31:16And I just remember feeling like my entire world had been shattered.
31:23She loved him with everything in her heart and soul, and that didn't matter a lick to him.
31:29I don't remember when I started crying until after I processed that the noise I was hearing was me screaming and crying into my mom's chest.
31:47On May 10, 2012, the medical examiner carries out Vicki Burks' autopsy.
31:55The coroner described her manner of death as blunt force trauma to the head.
32:02Both of Vicki's pinkies were broken on both her hands.
32:06It appeared to me as in a manner like she was trying to protect herself.
32:09We asked Martin Burks if he would look around the residence and see if anything was missing that would resemble a blunt instrument.
32:19And he later reported that an aluminum baseball bat that was kept in the mudroom was missing.
32:29I received a call at the Delavan Police Department.
32:33Had located the truck.
32:34The Delavan Police Officer found Ryan Dilling walking down the road.
32:43He lies about having the keys to the truck.
32:47He lies about being involved in the truck.
32:49He initially gives them a fake name.
32:53After Ryan was arrested, we sent a team of detectives and investigators up to Wisconsin to conduct an interview.
33:01What's going on with this truck?
33:02Well, the truck was stolen and I wasn't driving.
33:08Okay.
33:09This guy is just fabricating and making up these bizarre stories.
33:14Detective Bronfield came into the interview later on.
33:17We're here investigating the theft of the motor vehicle.
33:22And we're also here to conduct an investigation on the death of your mother.
33:29You know she was murdered.
33:32What we really want is we want him to make a confession.
33:41On May 14th of 2012, Ryan was formally charged with Vicki's homicide.
33:57Ryan requests to speak to a detective from Wisconsin called Shannon Illingworth.
34:02She had developed a little bit of a rapport with Ryan.
34:05And like I said, whatever's happened has already happened.
34:08There's nothing we can do about it.
34:09All we can do is move forward.
34:12I just don't want to get blamed for something that I didn't do.
34:15Detective Illingworth interviews Ryan on May 15th, hoping to get a confession.
34:20I could see in your eyes, you're hurting about something right now, Ryan.
34:25But if they're not going to tell you the truth, then the next best thing is to give us easily disprovable lies.
34:32Single or married?
34:34Widowed.
34:35Widowed?
34:36You weren't married?
34:37No.
34:38She died.
34:40Or just disappeared.
34:42He gave us lie after lie after lie that we very easily could disprove.
34:48Do you realize you never even asked me how she did it?
34:53Never once.
34:55Do you know why you didn't ask?
34:57I don't know how she did it.
34:59No, I don't.
35:00Yeah, you do.
35:01There was none of it because he was the one who did it and he knew exactly what had happened.
35:08On May 18th, Detective Illingworth interviews Ryan again after looking into some of his previous claims.
35:14There's two people in the house between 7 and 11 on that day.
35:19I wasn't there that day.
35:21We know that he's not telling the truth during that interview.
35:26Why does nobody have a marriage certificate for you?
35:29And what happened to her?
35:30Where is she?
35:31She's a marriage with a kid.
35:34You have a kid too?
35:36There was no record of him ever being married.
35:38He said that he had a child.
35:40No record at all.
35:41I mean, it just wasn't true.
35:42I really, I have no clue.
35:45I know I didn't do any of this.
35:49It would have hurt me.
35:51And honestly, it was the skeptic.
35:56At some point, he starts to maybe try to deflect towards Marty a little bit.
36:01The deep-seated anger and the issues that he had with his mom and with Marty.
36:07My mom probably had a lot of enemies out there.
36:11He also really ran down his mom a lot.
36:14She's a terrible person.
36:15Lots of people don't like her.
36:17Again, deflecting attention away from him, trying to put it on an outside person.
36:22Ryan was extradited back to Ohio on July 17, 2012.
36:30The trial was in February 2014, and he pled not guilty.
36:34Ryan has maintained his innocence regarding us, and I don't believe that has changed to today.
36:39In my opinion, this is what happened on the morning of May 9, 2012.
36:44So Marty leaves for work.
36:49Vicky's still in bed.
36:50She comes down that morning and is sitting at that kitchen table.
36:55Ryan comes down.
36:57He sees Vicky sitting there.
36:59He hits her across the head.
37:02I think that she was knocked out of this chair.
37:08She was probably on the ground.
37:11He's throwing this blood up on the ceiling.
37:13He's throwing this blood on the curtains.
37:16He beats her until she stops moving.
37:20Dragging that body.
37:22He throws her down in the cellar.
37:24He spends the next couple hours before Marty gets home for lunch, cleaning that area up.
37:29At some point, Marty gets home, eats a sandwich real quick, talks to Ryan real quick, goes out.
37:38So we think shortly after Marty leaves for work is when Ryan hops in that truck and takes off.
37:49Part of me wanted to hate him for what he did to my mom.
37:52And I remember seeing him, and I kind of felt guilty that I almost had a little bit of sympathy for him.
38:02The trial lasted five days.
38:05The jury found him guilty of aggravated murder, felony murder, purposeful murder, tampering with evidence, and receiving stolen property.
38:14I had to realize that Uncle Bubba really didn't exist, and it was just Ryan the monster.
38:26The defendant was sentenced to life in prison without parole.
38:31After the trial, there's the appellate process.
38:35He actually was able to have the aggravated murder conviction overturned.
38:40The court said that there was plenty of evidence that he had actually done the murder, but there wasn't enough evidence of premeditation.
38:53Ryan ultimately was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 18 years.
38:58The fact that he hasn't accepted responsibility for what he's done shows that he isn't reformed, shows that he's not remorseful.
39:10And if you can't be sorry or remorseful for killing your mom, what kind of threat do you pose to society?
39:19I have no emotional connection with Ryan at all, other than anger.
39:26And he's not my son anymore.
39:28If he gets out, it would be nothing for him to do the same thing again.
39:35Sitting here now, I hate Ryan with every fiber of my being.
39:41I'll never forgive Ryan for what he did.
39:44Isn't that cute?
39:45Yeah, beautiful.
39:47Thank you for modeling for us.
39:49When my grandma was still alive, I was still going by Stephanie.
39:55I actually came out as transgender.
39:59And I wish my grandma was here to support me being trans.
40:03She was always supportive, always very loving.
40:08I miss her a lot.
40:11Definitely miss her.
40:15Keep thinking, what would it be like if she was still around?
40:18The first event I had after grandma died was a dance recital.
40:30And when I looked out into the audience, I saw Steph, I saw my dad, I saw my stepmom, I saw my grandpa.
40:42And right next to all of them was one empty seat.
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