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00:00If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.
00:16If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.
00:20If you're happy and you know it, and you really want to show it.
00:24If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.
00:26Yay, exactly.
00:28Should we do it again?
00:29Yeah.
00:30If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.
00:33If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.
00:36They're definitely watching the Iranians.
00:39Yes.
00:40They'll be filming us.
00:44Shall I offer them a piece of birthday cake?
00:47Best not.
00:48As you say, as long as they know we're here, that's all that matters.
00:51Although it is forbidden, and although I fear punishment, I need to write down what is
01:16happening to me and how I feel.
01:18Today, it was yet another interrogation last ago.
01:23It was the same question over and over.
01:26What is your machine?
01:28They terrorize and intimidate me.
01:32They know my weakness is my family, my child, my husband.
01:37Let's go.
01:38Start with me.
01:55Oh, my God.
02:25I'm going to leave my mom and dad.
02:28She's going to be free.
02:31She's going to be free.
02:32She's going to be free.
02:33She's going to be free.
02:38What's going on?
02:39What happened?
02:40What happened?
02:42I'm going to go to the house.
02:44I'm going to go to the house.
02:52Hello?
02:53Hello?
02:54My mom and dad just to me.
02:55How do you know?
02:57I'm going to get this.
02:59How do I get this?
03:01Who would you like to put it at?
03:03Don't let me know.
03:04Why do I go to the house?
03:05What do you want?
03:06Do you agree?
03:07I can see.
03:08I'm a driver.
03:10I'm waiting to stop.
03:13I'm waiting for you.
03:15Tell me to love you.
03:16I know.
03:17It's a shame.
03:19I'm going to go away!
03:20I'm going to let you change.
03:22I have a good friend.
03:35Good evening.
03:37Tell me, you're waiting for your time.
03:42The passport is behind you?
03:44Yes?
03:45The passport is behind you.
03:47I'll tell you, I'll tell you.
03:49Do you want to go?
03:50Come on, come on.
03:52Let's go.
04:04When you look at your eyes,
04:06do you want your head?
04:08It won't be a word.
04:16Let's go.
04:20Hello.
04:22Come.
04:23Hello.
04:24Hello.
04:25Hello.
04:35What can you do?
04:37I can't buy it.
04:38I can't buy it.
04:39Why do you buy it?
04:44Okay.
04:45I can't buy it.
04:47I can't buy it.
04:49I can't buy it.
04:50Yes.
05:15What do you have?
05:17You must go to the house.
05:20You must go!
05:21You must die!
05:23Where are you?
05:24What do you think of your car während you?
05:25Who is hiding?
05:26Shbies.
05:27From hell to hell.
05:29Let's go.
05:31There is another car chasing now.
05:33Let's go.
05:36Zhivivvili Huh muziko ii?
05:38He calls you!
05:39What?
05:40Your station's felicitary is in their private property,
05:41he calls you too.
05:42There is other people's DACI
05:44I can't do anything I can do with my own work.
06:14I don't want to catch, Missouri.
06:44Look at the camera.
07:05Good shot.
07:07Salam.
07:08Good shot.
07:10Salam.
07:12Salam.
07:14Let's go.
07:45My mother, my father is where I am?
07:48It's on the other side.
07:50You're right, you're right.
07:52Why are you talking about it?
07:54I'm going to be free of my family.
07:57I'm going to be free of my family.
08:02Let's go.
08:03What?
08:05Let's go.
08:06No, no, no. I don't want to go.
08:07I don't want to go.
08:08I don't want to go.
08:09I don't want to go.
08:10I don't want to go.
08:11I don't want to go.
08:12Don't go.
08:14Why are you doing this?
08:16My son.
08:17Don't go.
08:17What?
08:19What?
08:19I don't want to go.
08:20Good morning.
08:22¶¶
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08:42What do you mean?
08:44You are going to go to this side of the wall?
08:49I'll go to my house. I'll go to my house.
08:58I'll go to my house!
09:02You will go to my house this way!
09:05I'll go!
09:07Sarah Mascos!
09:37another lie another game and now she's god knows where can we ask have they actually officially
10:01asked the question where is she what the hell's going on or is that not allowed in fairness the
10:06foreign office will say they've already asked that question yeah but we've received not one
10:09satisfactory answer at the moment i can only follow government advice and for the sake of
10:15nazanine's safety not speak out in public yeah i can't rule out not going to iran myself
10:22i think i need to go there but it's not safe richard and the foreign office would never allow
10:29but i think that's a decision for later how much later how much later
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14:46I'm not going to do it.
14:48I'm going to do it in Iran.
14:51I'm not going to do it.
14:52I'm a model.
14:54I'm going to get my own, because I'm happy.
14:57It's sexy.
15:01Well, I'm happy to be here.
15:07Do you want to do television?
15:09No, I don't mind.
15:10Tell me what you want.
15:11No, no, there's no control.
15:13I'm happy to be here.
15:18All these shorts.
15:24I'm going to call you.
15:43She said she was to be released.
15:44She called her family and told them her car would be taking her to Kerman Airport.
15:49Yes, I saw.
15:51Did she get inside the car?
15:52Did she travel to the airport?
15:53Where is she now?
15:59These are my concerns.
16:00Is she alive is another.
16:02We are raising these shared concerns, Mr. Ratcliffe.
16:06Let me assure you, we are taking this matter very seriously.
16:12One question.
16:19Why are you here?
16:22When you still have other more important things to be getting on with.
16:26Yeah, I'm doing my best, Patrick.
16:31I'm getting some things done.
16:34I don't think I've been totally useless.
16:36Richard, I'm not suggesting anything other than pay leave of absence.
16:41So go.
16:42Get Nazanin home safely.
16:45Then come back and do your job.
16:46Take a look at this photograph.
17:12This picture was taken from my phone.
17:16Who are these people?
17:24Who do you think they are?
17:26You know who they are.
17:28They're my family.
17:30It's my husband's brother, his new wife and an elephant.
17:36Do I need to tell you which is which?
17:43How's the right, buddy?
17:46There's no shoddy feet in a chair.
17:51I don't know.
17:53Do you know what I mean?
17:56I'm telling the truth.
17:57You will stop lying!
17:59I'm telling you the truth.
18:12Do my family know where I am?
18:13Do my family know where I am?
18:17Do my family know where I am?
18:24Do my family know where I am?
18:26You have been trained to lie.
18:30The names you've just spoken, I don't know.
18:34I am telling you the truth.
18:36I am telling you the truth.
18:38I am told you what I am telling you.
18:39I am telling you the truth.
18:41Do you know what I am telling you?
18:43Yes.
18:44Do you know what I am telling you?
18:45Tell me you.
18:45Do you know what I am telling you?
18:46It's a model.
18:47She said you have encouraged her to flee from Iran.
18:49She says that you have encouraged her to flee from Iran.
19:00That is not true.
19:01And cross the Kurdish border.
19:04That is not true.
19:05Are you saying she's lying to me?
19:07No, I'm saying it is you who's not telling the truth.
19:10But your cell is bugged. We've heard every word spoken.
19:13Then you will know what I'm saying is true.
19:15Stop it with your lies and your tricks. Stop it.
19:19This will not end until you cooperate.
19:27We are very patient.
19:29I want to see my daughter.
19:31I want to speak to my husband, my family.
19:34Why are you doing this to me?
19:35Why? Why? Why?
19:37Why?
19:42Why?
19:49Why are we doing this to a lesbian?
19:51My darling little child, my body's aching for you.
20:21It knows you're gone and I miss you.
20:28Where have you been all this time?
20:33What have you been doing?
20:36What have you been thinking each day when I'm not there?
20:51What have you been doing?
21:01Isu! Isu!
21:04Richard! Richard!
21:06Richard!
21:08What have you been doing?
21:17It's been a lot since...
21:19I was doing my work.
21:22You can tell me something to do.
21:27I'm not sure what you're doing.
21:31I'm going to show you the job that you're doing.
21:37Let's leave.
21:38I'll give you a minute.
21:39You can see the kids.
21:42I'm going to show you this place.
21:44I'm going to show you Iran.
21:46I'm going to show you.
21:49I want to get a friend of mine.
21:57I'm sorry, did you go of that?
22:05I'm sorry.
22:27I'm sorry.
22:34Hey!
22:39Oh, let me kiss you! Let me kiss you!
22:43Oh, what's wrong?
22:46Oh, mon, mon.
22:48Oh, mon.
22:50Oh, mon.
22:52Oh, mon.
22:54My house, I'm a microphone.
22:55I'll remind you that every relationship is very important.
23:02It's a baby.
23:04You have to tell us that only one night will be done.
23:09I want you to tell me everything you've been doing.
23:13Everything you've been doing.
23:16I love you.
23:18I love you.
23:20Be careful.
23:21Be careful, be careful.
23:24Be careful, be careful.
23:31Be careful, be že neがら.
23:39Be careful, be careful.
23:42What?
23:44I don't have a problem.
23:46Hey, sister.
23:47Oh, oh.
23:57I'm not a person.
24:00I want an English person to know.
24:04And my uncle will be in the house.
24:07What's the house?
24:09What are you doing?
24:10They tell me that they are the effects of us.
24:14We can make the same man with all of us.
24:22We want to talk to you about your father.
24:25Tell us that the British government is a woman.
24:29We can accept this issue.
24:32If we can do this, she will be free to you.
24:39What's your name?
24:41What's your name?
24:43I'm going to Richard.
24:53Mr. Radcliffe, are you still there?
24:55Yes, yes, I am.
24:57As far as I've been able to establish,
24:59there is no such deal.
25:01Nothing.
25:03Well, I'm just repeating what her brother in Iran was told.
25:09I mean, if there's no such deal,
25:11then why would they say there is?
25:13The Iranians say many things.
25:15There is no deal.
25:17No agreement to be made.
25:19We have no idea why her interrogators would claim that there is.
25:23Right, thank you.
25:39Who do you think is telling the truth?
25:43The Iranians saying there is an agreement to be made,
25:45or the Foreign Office saying there isn't?
25:49I want to believe the Iranians,
25:55because that means there's a reason Nazanin's being held.
25:59But I...
26:01I also want to believe in the Foreign Office,
26:05and that maybe there's a reason they can't say anything.
26:09Well, that's right.
26:11We don't know.
26:13I desperately want to trust them.
26:16Us.
26:18The British.
26:20They...
26:22They will be doing something.
26:24They don't know.
26:25You are the same.
26:26They've been doing something.
26:27They need to be asked for their ownBCs.
26:29They're the same.
26:30They have no problem.
26:31They're asking you to leave.
26:33We will leave the universal authority in the Foreign Office.
26:34And now I will leave the forex and send her up to the Foreign Office.
26:36You can do it again.
26:38We did not do it again.
26:42We did not do it to the Lord.
26:44We did not do it again.
26:46We did not do it again.
26:48We did not do it again.
26:50We must tell you that the British government will agree.
26:54It is very easy.
26:58Yes, after that, if the British government will agree,
27:02it will not be in the case.
27:06Not great, Turner.
27:24Not great timing from us, to be fair.
27:26All anyone is interested in is Brexit.
27:30Thank you for coming.
27:34Today marks the 100th day of Nazanin's abduction.
27:40For 100 days, a mother, a British citizen,
27:44has been held inside an Iranian prison,
27:46willfully separated from her child.
27:48The intelligence services are admitting that they are detaining a mother and baby,
27:54not because of any suspicious activity in Iran,
27:56but as collateral for an unknown political deal.
28:00And they have asked me to make this unknown deal known to you, the media.
28:06Now, backed by over 780,000 voices,
28:10this petition will be delivered to number 10.
28:12I'm asking the Prime Minister David Cameron and his Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond
28:18to condemn Iran's actions in Parliament,
28:22and to ask the question, what is this deal Iran is seeking?
29:40Thank you very much.
29:43And I've been here for a moment.
29:44Thank you for the moment.
29:45And you're lucky.
29:46I'm here for you personally.
29:47There's a boy in Iran.
29:48I'm not usually a boy in Iran.
29:51No, I'm here for Iran.
29:52I'm your daughter.
29:53I'm here for you.
29:54You're not good.
29:56You're trying to make a similar relationship.
29:59I'm trying to take a look.
30:01I have a good relationship.
30:03Yeah, I'm here for you.
30:08I'm not going to do this job, I'm not going to do this job
30:14Did you work for BBC?
30:17Yes, many years ago I worked for a week
30:20I worked for a few months
30:23Did you do this job for BBC?
30:26No, I didn't do this job
30:28No, I didn't do this job
30:30If the time is going to be the legal
30:33that the law is going to be
30:35I'm going to do it
30:44Do you want to take this job?
30:46Well, I'm going to do it
30:49I'm going to do it
30:51I'm going to do it
30:53And do it
30:55I'll be happy to be here.
31:01I want to make a decision to make it to me.
31:03I'll ask you to ask me and ask you to write it.
31:06I'm not sure you can write it.
31:08If you write it, I'll write it.
31:10I'll write it.
31:13You know what I mean.
31:17The answer is the same as I said before.
31:20I don't know what I'm saying.
31:22I don't know what I'm saying.
31:24I will be asking you to go to my child
31:33Mr. Shabani
31:34If you are in your office, you will be able to do it
31:37and you will be able to do it at the time of the administration
31:38of Farda's office
31:41I will be able to do it
32:24For Nazanin, they say that stone will turn into ruby by enduring patience.
32:34Yes, it will.
32:35But with that comes so much pain.
32:38From Farah.
32:40For Farah.
32:41Thank you for your poem.
32:43I pray it will give me the strength I will need in the years to come.
32:54Bia.
32:55I have a plan and I have a plan to do it.
33:16Let me show you.
33:20It's the first time I have to do it.
33:25I don't know how much you are going to do it, but you have to do it in the same way.
33:40You have to do it in five years.
33:46Seven years ago.
33:50It's hard to do it.
33:55Why do you want me to do this?
34:14I'm going to be 7 years old.
34:25I don't mind you.
34:26I can't really tell you how to make her happy and tell you.
34:30Well, I'm sick.
34:31I'm sick.
34:32I know I'll get that some ...
34:38No, I'm sick.
34:38I'll be sick and there's no shame.
34:39You can't do the job.
34:40I can't do that.
34:41I don't want you to make my fault.
34:42Okay.
34:43Go to me.
34:44I'm sick and I can't do anything different than you.
34:46What happened to you, sir?
34:47My husband will be sick.
34:48Oh, my husband will tell you when you talk about it.
34:50I will tell you much about it.
34:52I'll tell you.
34:53But I'll tell you that I will tell.
34:54I don't know what to do.
34:56I don't know what to do in English.
34:59We just want something to do with us.
35:24Hello? Hello?
35:31Richard, my love.
35:34Nazelynn, darling.
35:36How are you? Where are you?
35:38Richard, they say I'm guilty.
35:45Of what?
35:47I've been sentenced to five years of prison.
35:50Guilty of what?
35:53Five years.
35:55That is the sentence, yes.
35:57But what is it they say you are convicted of?
36:00Five years, my baby won't be seven.
36:02No, no, Nazelynn.
36:04No, no, listen to me.
36:06We will get through this, and I promise, I promise you,
36:08I'll devote every hour to bringing you home.
36:10Five years apart.
36:12We will bring you home.
36:16I promise.
36:20Naz...
36:23No.
36:39No.
36:40No, no.
36:41No, no.
36:42No.
36:43It's a way to get it.
36:45Then you will be able to get it.
36:48You will be able to get it.
36:59I will not let you go.
37:03I will not let you go.
37:09I will not let you go.
37:13Okay.
37:18How are you?
37:26How are you?
37:43Hello.
37:59Is this Richard Radcliffe, husband to Nazanin Zegari?
38:05Who is this?
38:07I can't say. Not yet.
38:11Is this Richard Radcliffe?
38:12It is.
38:14Richard, do you have a pen and paper?
38:17You are going to want to write this down.
38:24Yes, go on.
38:25Regarding your claim of an outstanding deal between the Iranian and British governments,
38:30you are not wrong.
38:31The company you should investigate is called IMS, International Military Services Limited.
38:37They are fully owned by the British Ministry of Defense.
38:40They owe money and are currently being dragged through the British courts by M.O.D. Iran, no less.
38:46If this is all true, it would help to know who you are.
38:49It's all true, my friend.
38:51Dig deep.
38:51The information is there.
38:53Good luck.
38:542002, and we have something interesting.
39:21IMS make a payment of 400 million pounds to a U.K. court as a security, a bond.
39:27Why would they do that?
39:28A dispute.
39:29It has to be some kind of debt, doesn't it?
39:30It is a debt.
39:31Look.
39:31An award of damages plus interest was made against the company in connection with a contractual dispute with the government of Iran.
39:39There's a reduction in the debt from 500 to 400 million in 2006, but after that, there's no record of either a 400 million pound payment or cancellation of the debt.
39:50And a statement for the subsequent years shows that the dispute is ongoing.
39:57The latest negotiations taking place in 2016.
40:00IMS did indeed pay a sizable amount of money to the U.K. courts as security for a debt owed to Iran.
40:21The claimant being the Iranian Ministry of Defense.
40:26Wow.
40:28It all dates back to the 1970s, would you believe, over 40 years ago.
40:33But this argument is still very much alive.
40:39In fact, closed-door negotiations between the U.K. and Iranian governments last took place in March and May of this year, 2016.
40:50The outcome of these negotiations was what, Penny?
40:54Well, as far as I can see, no agreement was reached.
40:58We were told they were holding on to her in May.
41:00Coincidence, or were the Iranians trying to force an agreement?
41:04Penny, can you talk us through everything you found, please, beginning in the 1970s?
41:15It's 1971, and the oil-rich Shah of Iran signs a 650 million pound contract with the British government for weaponry and military vehicles, including tanks.
41:28The contract is made with the commercial arm of the MOD, International Military Services, a limited company, IMS.
41:42Fast forward to 1978, 1979, and we have the Iranian Revolution.
41:47Yeah, I remember it.
41:48I remember it being on the news.
41:55The Shah is overthrown, and he flees the country.
41:58At this point, the Shah has already paid 100 million pounds to IMS for tanks, which, bar the odd few, have yet to be delivered, and now will never be delivered.
42:14So Iran wants its money back, with interest.
42:19And why not?
42:20They're demanding their money back.
42:22This is his win.
42:23Early 1980s. It becomes a legal dispute early 1990s.
42:28Iran takes IMS to the European Court of Arbitration in the Netherlands, and they win.
42:34IMS appeals on spurious grounds.
42:36The case goes to the Dutch Supreme Court, which rules in favor of Iran, and the arbitration becomes enforceable.
42:44So where's the problem, besides us paying the silly buggers?
42:47Well, initially the Iran-Iraq war.
42:58Saddam Hussein was our man in the Middle East.
43:01Iraq actually received some of the tanks Iran had paid for.
43:04Oh, dear God.
43:05The war lasts between 1980 and 1988.
43:09Legal arguments begin early 90s, all the way through to the noughties.
43:14Then EU sanctions against Iran kick in around about 2008.
43:19But everything changed in January this year, 2016.
43:24The nuclear deal.
43:26JCPOA?
43:28Yes.
43:30What's that?
43:31Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.
43:33Between Iran, the U.S. and the EU.
43:38Very good, Jeff.
43:40Common knowledge.
43:41The plan of action allowed EU sanctions to be lifted. That is, most sanctions.
43:47Meaning that we, the UK, could pay 400 million to the Iranian Ministry of Health, for instance.
43:53But they can't pay, won't pay, the now 400 million to the Iranian Ministry of Defense.
44:00Even though it's their money.
44:03Even though we'd just be giving it back.
44:05Exactly.
44:06So it's not a payment, it's a refund.
44:08What we have to do is show that this debt is the reason Nazanin was taken.
44:15Wow.
44:16It's children.
44:32Mama?
44:35Maman?
44:50What's your name?
44:54What's your name?
45:00What's your name?
45:05I want to tell you who you are.
45:12I know where you are.
45:15Maman?
45:16Who are you?
45:35I don't know what you are.
45:39I know what you are.
45:40I've been doing a lot more.
45:42I've been cleaning up the bathroom.
45:44I've been cleaning up the bathroom.
45:45I've been cleaning up the bathroom and cleaning up the bathroom.
45:49I can't remember working, but I don't know what you're doing.
45:52This is how it is going to be doing a bathroom.
45:53That one breaks down.
45:56What's your name?
45:57What is that?
46:04What is that?
46:16You're here.
46:18Just sit down, stop.
46:19I have to go to the house.
46:21I'm going to go to the house.
46:23Hold it.
46:24Let's leave the place.
46:26Do you want to go?
46:29It's necessary to buy the food.
46:32It's not going to be done.
46:34It's been five years old.
46:36It's been seven years old.
46:39No.
46:40It's not going to be done.
46:42Why don't you tell me a little bit about it?
46:45Why don't you talk about it?
46:52Let's get together.
46:55Let's get together.
46:58Let's get together.
47:15Richard, it's me.
47:26My darling, can you hear me? I'm here.
47:29Can you hear me?
47:31I can't do this.
47:34What do you mean?
47:36I want you to care for Gabriela like I know you will.
47:40Esme, what are you saying?
47:41It would be easier for you to forget me.
47:44You must move on with your lives without me.
47:49No.
47:50That's it.
47:51No, I do not accept that.
47:53I need you.
47:54Gabriela needs you.
47:55We love you.
47:56That isn't going to change.
47:58Ever.
48:02That's it.
48:06Um, hello?
48:08I, uh, I am the man.
48:11Uh, uh, looking after your, uh, uh, wife.
48:20I hope you, uh, will collect her soon.
48:27Soon.
48:29I hope you will make her.
48:30I hope you, uh, come on.
48:32Okay.
48:33We will people, uh, come on.
48:35You, uh, you're aAR.
48:37It's like your other child.
48:38You're aAR.
48:39You're aAR, you're aAR.
48:40You're aAR.
48:42Yeah, that's fine.
48:44I want to be an alien.
48:45You're aAR.
48:46You're aAR.
48:47You're aAR.
48:48Now, what are you s o.
48:49I want to say it out loud.
49:11I want the public to know that my wife is being held in solitary confinement in an Iranian
49:18prison for the non-payment of a 40-year-old tank debt.
49:26I feel the Foreign Office know that too, but they won't admit it.
49:34So, how best do we do that?
49:39I know a journalist at the Sunday Times I might help.
49:41Is he good?
49:42Do we know him?
49:43You wouldn't know him, but he's well thought of.
49:45Sunday Times is good.
49:46I mean, a splash in the Times may well lead to more publicity.
49:50We could try for the Today programme.
49:51It is a political story.
49:53I think we should inform the Foreign Office of our intentions.
49:57I'll write to Tobias Elwood, tell him we have all the details of the tank debt and request
50:00a meeting.
50:01All right?
50:16My dear, darling husband.
50:22I've loved you so much.
50:26Forgive me.
50:28I cannot be apart from you.
50:31I cannot be apart from Gisu.
50:36And I cannot bear for you to be apart from your daughter whom you love so dearly.
50:43I release you, my love.
50:46I cannot bear for you, I cannot bear for you.
50:59But you do not bear, I have the strength of your daughter coming.
51:05I don't want to eat it, but I don't want to eat it.
51:12It doesn't have power.
51:14It doesn't have power.
51:16It doesn't have to eat it.
51:18Why do you think you don't eat it?
51:21Let me ask you about it.
51:23It's this way.
51:24Let's come back.
51:31Oh God.
51:32Oh God.
51:35Oh God.
51:36Oh God.
51:37Oh God.
51:38Oh God.
51:39Oh God.
51:40Oh God.
51:41Oh God.
51:42Oh God.
51:43Oh God.
51:44Oh God.
51:45Oh God.
51:46Oh God.
51:47I release you, my love.
51:54She must have written the note when she was refusing food.
52:02Is that all?
52:03Oh God.
52:07But now things have changed.
52:09They brought her food when we were there.
52:12She is a prize to them.
52:14She has value.
52:18She needs to know that she has not forgotten.
52:21She needs to know that we are here.
52:23I am here.
52:24Always.
52:25Do you hear me, Mohammed?
52:27Always.
52:28And I always will be.
52:29Always.
52:33She needs to know I will keep my promise.
52:36The husband of a woman who is in jail in Iran has accused the foreign office of dragging its feet on seeking her release.
52:47Mrs. Zaghari Ratcliffe's husband, Richard Ratcliffe, says the foreign office has not done all it could do.
52:53And he thinks he knows why.
52:54He says she's being used as a bargaining chip.
52:56Iran says that Britain owes it 400 million pounds as part of an arms deal dating back 40 years or so.
53:04The foreign office won't tell us anything about that particular situation.
53:07It has said that we have to...
53:12You've seen it?
53:14Yeah, I've seen it.
53:15What the fuck has happened?
53:17Were we not promised a splash?
53:19With only one source, it's you claiming one thing and the foreign office saying another.
53:24And I think we may well have been briefed against.
53:28Meaning what?
53:30Meaning that...
53:32One or two people in the media will have been told, quite sympathetically, that...
53:38Richard Ratcliffe is understandably emotional and going through a very difficult and traumatic time.
53:48So what now?
53:50You answer your phone, we'll go for a pint.
53:53It's Penny.
53:55Penny, yes, I've seen it.
53:57Forget that.
53:58That's old news.
53:59We've been offered a meeting with Tobias Elwood.
54:02When?
54:03Day after tomorrow.
54:04It's unheard of.
54:07Is he rattled, do you think?
54:09Well, we certainly have his attention.
54:13Both we at the foreign office and the Iranian minister are aware of your most recent press appearance,
54:19the BBC's Today programme and the piece in the Sunday Times.
54:24Yes.
54:26The Iranians are concerned that you're trying to politicise the agenda.
54:29No.
54:30All I want to do is to bring Nazlin home safely and soon.
54:35Which is what I told them.
54:36But it does not help that you appear to be, if not misinformed, then misguided.
54:43Your emotional response is, of course, natural and understandable.
54:49Perhaps some form of therapy might help.
54:53Thank you for your concern.
54:59And perhaps if I clarified the position in relation to the tanks.
55:03Please.
55:05The tanks were due to be sold to the Iranians in the 1970s.
55:08The British government took the money but did not supply the tanks.
55:12Instead, those tanks went to Iraq.
55:15All the money received from Iran then sat in an account.
55:18However, due to the sanctions now in place, it's not possible to deliver this money to Iran.
55:23There's no way around this? By using the Amanis, for example?
55:27No. The Iranians are aware of this.
55:30So, what did the Revolutionary Guard mean when they said,
55:34tell your government to do a deal?
55:36Well, they are part of a hard-line government who are encouraging you to highlight quite falsely
55:40that the West does not play fair. Pure propaganda.
55:45Nazanin being taken and the tank deal are very much two separate issues.
55:50Then why have they taken her? If not for leverage?
55:55Paranoia.
55:57You would agree there are thousands of Iranians in exactly the same position as Nazanin.
56:02Anyone who appears suspicious will be on their radar.
56:05This is a mother and baby. The only thing that could identify Nazanin as being suspicious is her dual nationality.
56:13Her passport is why she was taken and her passport gives them leverage.
56:18It's not us or our campaign that has politicized her kidnapping.
56:23You are emotional and under enormous pressure of that, I am certain.
56:28And pressure leads to misunderstandings.
56:33Make no mistake, the Iranians watch for every word spoken,
56:38be it Prime Minister's questions in the press or the Today programme.
56:43Your approach and your campaign are, to put it bluntly, damaging.
56:48You have people around you who are saying,
56:53well done, but they are wrong.
56:55We must be seen by the Iranians, Richard, to be as one.
56:59You could tweet that you've just met with Tobias Elwood, for example.
57:03You mean, well, of course you do.
57:06But perhaps a more useful outlet for both you and Nazanin
57:10would be to keep a diary.
57:14Well done, Mary.
57:44You can't do anything.
57:45You can't do anything.
57:46You can't do anything.
57:55You can't do anything.
57:57That's what I'm doing.
57:58Man is my father.
58:12Man is my father.
58:14Man is my father.
58:24The story continues Sunday at nine on BBC One.
58:53I'll press red now to watch the next episode on iPlayer.
58:57Also there, exclusive interviews with Nazanin and Richard in Prisoner 951, The Hostages' Story.
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