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00:00And so welcome back to Jack and Rosamund and Michelle.
00:03First up, welcome to Glenn.
00:05And you are friends with Jack Whitehall?
00:07Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:08We got to hang out a little bit while I was shooting the Lion Man.
00:11Yeah. The last time we met was at Glastonbury Festival, right?
00:14That was, yeah.
00:15We bumped into each other at Glastonbury.
00:16And we'd met, like, a couple of times before that.
00:19And I bumped into Glenn there, and I was with my fiancé
00:22and then two of my fiancé's girlfriends,
00:24who are both single ladies from Essex,
00:26who, the minute they saw that I was friendly with Glenn,
00:29just, like, locked in.
00:31And then for the rest of the weekend, that's all they talked about.
00:34So, like, every day I'd wake up and I was like,
00:36oh, so, what do you want to see today?
00:37They'd be like, Glenn Pal.
00:39Or maybe bands.
00:41And then they encouraged me to, like, message you loads.
00:43So then I sent all of these messages to you going,
00:45hey, Glenn, what are you doing today?
00:46Like, what acts are you going to go and see?
00:48I'm, like, booty calling you at, like, 11 o'clock at night.
00:52I did think you were a little thirsty.
00:54Exactly!
00:55Because you didn't realise that I was with these two girls.
00:58And then on the Monday morning, I was like,
01:00oh, my God, he's going to think that I'm like his baby reindeer.
01:03I'm reading through all of these messages.
01:05One of them that you did not respond to,
01:07and I'm quite within your rights not to,
01:0911 o'clock at night on the Sunday,
01:11I'd sent him a message saying,
01:12Scissor Sisters question mark.
01:14I thought that was some, like, British slang.
01:18I didn't know what that...
01:19Yeah, they weren't even playing at the festival, to be fair.
01:21Good, good.
01:22I was like, never accept the Scissor Sisters emoji, you know.
01:27And here you are, the new action hero on the block,
01:30sat next to one of the greatest action heroes of all time, Michelle!
01:33Absolutely, absolutely.
01:38But, of course, you're not here kicking ass tonight,
01:41you're back with Wicked.
01:42And so, last time, the Wicked press tour was insane.
01:46So, where are you off to this time?
01:47You're off to Paris after this?
01:49Tonight.
01:50Oh, wow, okay.
01:51We have our screening in Paris tomorrow,
01:53then we come back here to London,
01:55and then we go to Singapore,
01:56and then we go to New York,
01:58and then the movie comes out.
02:00Wow.
02:01A new trip around the world.
02:02I guess, I mean, because it's been so many years,
02:04you're going to miss it when it's gone, aren't you?
02:06We are missing it already.
02:07Oh.
02:08It's been such an amazing family.
02:10And also, great that you put all that work in,
02:12and then it was a success.
02:13Phew!
02:14Can you imagine in Wicked?
02:16It's why you didn't turn out the way you did.
02:18No, can't you imagine?
02:20Just limping around the world.
02:22Here's more of it.
02:24There's two and a half hours more.
02:26No, no problem.
02:27Thank God.
02:28No, thank God.
02:29Thank God.
02:30And, now, it's a warm welcome back to Rosamund Pike.
02:32The last time we were here, it was a Zoomy thing,
02:35and you were Zooming us from a cabin,
02:37was it in Eastern Europe somewhere?
02:39It was my home, Graham.
02:41Oh.
02:42Wow.
02:43My home in Prague.
02:44Shade.
02:45A cabin in Eastern Europe.
02:46My home in Prague.
02:48It didn't...
02:49Do you have any lights?
02:50It looked very dark.
02:52Well, it was locked down.
02:54It was...
02:55We were, you know, hunkering down like the rest of the world.
03:00LAUGHTER
03:01Here's the thing.
03:02The last time you were on, broadcasting for your beautiful home in Prague...
03:06LAUGHTER
03:07We all at Envik.
03:09LAUGHTER
03:10You went a bit...
03:12You kind of found new fame, but in a very niche way.
03:15Oh, my gosh, yeah.
03:16You asked me about my family, my children speaking Chinese.
03:19Yes.
03:20And you asked me if they'd taught me anything,
03:23and I came out with one thing they'd taught me,
03:25which is a Chinese proverb, I suppose you'd call it,
03:28and apparently that clip went viral around China,
03:32and now I am recognised as the girl who tells fart jokes...
03:37LAUGHTER
03:38..and speaks proverbs about farting.
03:40So, when I was doing the play, in the summer,
03:43at the National Theatre, people would come
03:45and bring me pillows and teddy bears,
03:47which, when I pressed the button,
03:49would come out with this Chinese phrase...
03:51..and I'd fart.
03:53LAUGHTER
03:55Loving it.
03:56Yep.
03:57Loving it.
03:58Wow.
03:59It's hard.
04:00She really did say fang pi, OK?
04:03LAUGHTER
04:04If it's so funny, Michelle let out a little fart.
04:06LAUGHTER
04:07Let out a little fart.
04:09LAUGHTER
04:10Now, Jackie, you have also found international fame
04:13from a story on the show.
04:15I mean, it's very different to Chinese proverbs,
04:18but, yes, I do sometimes get recognised for my appearances
04:21on The Graham Norton Show.
04:22The last time it happened, I was on tour in Australia
04:25and I was in an airport with my family
04:28and a guy who recognised me was like,
04:30Oh, yeah, we love you, Jack Whitehall, yeah.
04:32That story you told on Graham Norton
04:34about not being able to flush your shit down the dunny.
04:37LAUGHTER
04:38And he stamped my passport and let me through.
04:40LAUGHTER
04:42People remember that story and then they just come up to you
04:44and say it with, like, no context.
04:45OK.
04:46So, Glenn, the challenge is on.
04:48LAUGHTER
04:49I've got to throw something out there.
04:50Do you remember when we had dinner at that place?
04:52What was the, with Pete, what was the name of the place
04:55we grabbed dinner?
04:56Dorian.
04:57Yes, Dorian.
04:58This place has one bathroom.
05:01This is the most awkward fan interaction I've ever had.
05:04I go to the bathroom and, you know, sometimes, like,
05:07you go to the bathroom and there's, like, toilet paper
05:09already, like, on, in the bottom of the toilet, right?
05:12Yeah, yeah.
05:13So I'm just, like, lift up the seat, pee, do the thing,
05:16and flush, and I realize now why there was toilet paper on there.
05:20It just flipped all this stuff underneath it.
05:25And I was like, oh, my God.
05:27So I'm, like, trying to do, and I'm like, this is crazy.
05:29So, wash my hands, leave, and as I open the door,
05:33there's about eight girls outside the bathroom door.
05:38And they go, oh, my God, sorry, we had to meet you.
05:41We wanted to say hi.
05:42And they're like, and I was like, are you guys going in here?
05:45And they're like, yeah.
05:47And I go, it wasn't me.
05:49That was, like, the whole other person.
05:51I didn't do that.
05:52They're like, what are you talking about?
05:53I was like, you're going to see a whole situation.
05:55I just want to know, like, I added to it,
05:57but not, like, in that way.
05:59I just want you to know Jack Whitehall did that.
06:02He's material.
06:04He's material.
06:05This guy, this guy.
06:06All right, let's get started tonight with a new movie
06:08from Glenn Powell.
06:09It's called The Running Man.
06:11It's in cinemas from the 12th of November.
06:13And before we talk about it, here's a taste of what's in store.
06:16It is a fantastic kind of action thriller.
06:23Huge sequences.
06:25You play Ben Richards.
06:26Tell us about Ben Richards.
06:28Ben Richards is a guy who was kind of put on a blacklist
06:33for trying to stand up for some of the guys he worked with.
06:35So he can't provide for his family.
06:38He can't get any job.
06:39And his daughter's really, really sick.
06:40So he signs up for this game show where no one's ever won it,
06:43called The Running Man, where the entire world can hunt
06:46someone down for 30 days.
06:48And it's life or death.
06:50So everybody, yeah.
06:51And if you win, you get a billion dollars.
06:53Wow.
06:54It's a hell of a show.
06:56And this is based on a Stephen King short story.
06:58Is that right?
06:59Yeah, it was.
07:00Stephen King wrote a book in the early 70s.
07:03Came out in 82.
07:04It's set in 2025.
07:05That's what I love.
07:06I love that he set it this year.
07:08Which is wild.
07:09Because everything that's happening in the story,
07:12it's all about deepfakes and fake news
07:15and all the things that are happening around it.
07:17And this all predated reality TV.
07:20Wow.
07:21It's pretty wild.
07:22It is The Running Man.
07:23And clearly, there is a lot of running in this show.
07:25Yes, yes, yes.
07:26So who better to advise you than king of running,
07:29Mr. Tom Cruise?
07:30That's correct.
07:31Yeah.
07:32Because he is.
07:33Yes.
07:34He is.
07:35And did he advise you?
07:36He did.
07:37I mean, you know, I sort of thought Tom was going to give me,
07:40like, I mean, you've been doing stunts, like, your entire career.
07:43I mean, this was, like, kind of my first, you know,
07:45time being out in front of an action movie.
07:47And, you know, so I was just like,
07:48all right, what do I need to know about, you know,
07:50kind of being in front of a thing?
07:51I thought it was going to be, like, a ten-minute phone call.
07:52It turned into two and a half hours, like, about him being like,
07:54this is how you don't die.
07:56Wow.
07:57And doing it, you know, doing an action movie.
07:58I mean, there's a lot of ways.
07:59I mean, I don't think I really realized, you know,
08:01you're like, okay, like, the explosions are real,
08:03but I know kind of when they're coming.
08:05He's like, no, those can kill you.
08:06And, like, you know, you jump off a bridge, like, things snap,
08:08you know, people are tired, you know.
08:10So it was like, really, Tom kind of giving me a lowdown.
08:12But he also kind of gave me running lessons.
08:15He kind of said, you should film yourself running,
08:18because you don't look as cool as you think you do.
08:21And he was really right.
08:23Like, yeah.
08:24I don't think...
08:25I don't know if the last time, like, you've run on camera,
08:27but you start paying attention to other people running,
08:29you're like, humans are weird-looking things
08:31when they're trying to go fast, you know?
08:33And so, yeah, I tried to, you know,
08:34meet with a sprinting coach and kind of do it right.
08:36Yeah.
08:37And, Tom, I mean, you, I guess, credit Tom
08:39with this amazing career opportunity of Top Gun.
08:42Oh, absolutely, yeah.
08:43Yeah, I mean, Top Gun was a movie that changed my life,
08:46and there was a time in which I wasn't going to do it, you know?
08:49I originally auditioned for Miles Teller's role,
08:52the role of Rooster.
08:53Oh, yeah, yeah.
08:54And so then I get a call from Joe Kosinski,
08:56who was the director, and he called me.
08:58I remember it was on July 4th,
09:01and I was wearing an American flag tank top.
09:06I was on my balcony having a tequila soda,
09:10and Joe Kosinski called me and said,
09:13hey, you know, we're not giving you the role,
09:15it's going to go to Miles.
09:16And my buddy thought I was getting Top Gun,
09:19so it's me sad in an American tank top.
09:22He was filming me getting this, like,
09:24super sad phone call in an American flag tank top
09:26on July 4th, just like, just not great.
09:29But then Tom and I sat down,
09:31and, you know, he kind of gave me the advice.
09:33He's like, you know, I said,
09:35I just don't think the role was up to snuff.
09:39And I was a little bitter.
09:40I was kind of like the, you know,
09:42you don't want to get broken up with
09:43and then be like, hey, can we still be friends?
09:45You know what I mean?
09:46So I was kind of like, you know,
09:47I didn't think the role was really there.
09:49And he said, do you know how I've, you know,
09:50kind of done my career?
09:51And I said, how?
09:52And he said, well, I don't, you know,
09:54choose, you know, the roles.
09:56I choose the movies.
09:57You know, he goes, I choose good movies
09:59and then I make the roles great.
10:00And so he kind of convinced me right then and there
10:02and it was like the best decision I've ever made.
10:04That is really good advice.
10:05Because, Rosamund, you worked with the great Tom Cruise
10:08and Jack Reacher.
10:09You reached out to him for advice, didn't you?
10:11Tom is amazing.
10:12You remind me of him, actually.
10:13Oh, OK, great.
10:14You know, in a kind of, there's a, there's a,
10:16there's a lovely warm quality about you.
10:18All right, Rosamund.
10:19He has.
10:20Oh.
10:21You know, I mean, we've, we've...
10:22You're on television.
10:26I'm going to get the Scissor Sisters text a little later.
10:30Maybe.
10:31I, I, yeah.
10:32I think I might write better texts.
10:34Um.
10:35You've had more than enough to drink, Rosamund.
10:37Um, but, but Tom, no.
10:39He, I mean, he is a, he does sort of strike one as a mentor
10:42because he's been in the business for so long
10:43and he started so young and he's been a lead for his whole career,
10:46really.
10:47I mean, I love his advice about, you know,
10:49not choosing the roles, choosing the movies,
10:50but he has had the best roles in all the movies.
10:52Totally.
10:53He's done.
10:54Totally.
10:55It's great advice, but also, you know, um...
11:00But the night before I started filming Gone Girl,
11:02I was so frightened because I'd never had that sort of pressure
11:06of a, of a character in that kind of book
11:08with that level of director and those eyes on me
11:11and having to be American and all the rest of it.
11:13And I, I couldn't sleep.
11:15And at four in the morning, I thought,
11:16who, who can I write to, to get something?
11:18And I wrote to Tom saying,
11:20I'm not up to this and I'm terrified and I'm,
11:23and he wrote me back the kindest letter that immediately,
11:28because he obviously knew the call time was coming
11:30in about three hours.
11:31Yeah.
11:32And he sort of said, you know,
11:33you've, you've got this and you are ready.
11:35And, and, and other things.
11:36But it was a very, it was a very significant,
11:40it was a very significant gesture.
11:41Yeah.
11:42Yeah.
11:43Um, someone with that level of fame and people writing to him
11:46and probably how busy he is.
11:47I mean, the guy sleeps one hour a night or something.
11:49I mean, you know, that could have been his hour of sleep.
11:53He was very tired the next day.
11:57And Glenn, tell me this, because Topcon, you, you know,
12:00you were in it, you saw it, you knew that you were good in it,
12:03this is going to change your life.
12:05And then it got delayed.
12:06And I don't even remember this because of COVID.
12:08It kept getting delayed.
12:10You must've been going out of your mind.
12:12Well, it's also like, you're going out of your mind.
12:14You're also running out of money.
12:15You know what I mean?
12:16Like, you're, you're also like, oh man,
12:18I'm sort of waiting for this movie to come out for,
12:20for my career to start.
12:21I'm a very poor movie star.
12:22I'm a very poor movie star.
12:23It's like, it's not great.
12:24You know, and so, you know, and every time it got delayed,
12:30I would get a call from Tom to like, let me know
12:34it was getting delayed, which was really sweet of him.
12:36But it was also like, you start like dodging Tom's calls
12:39like a loan shark.
12:41You're like, shit, Tom's calling me again.
12:43I know what this means.
12:44Please don't call me again.
12:45Yeah, please don't call me again.
12:46But then it's funny.
12:47I'm actually hosting SNL next week.
12:49Oh, cool.
12:50I'm really excited about it.
12:55But I was supposed to host SNL.
12:59That fault, like, so they had to literally,
13:01Warren Michaels had to take back the offer
13:04for me to host SNL.
13:05So I was supposed to host SNL like four years ago.
13:07Wow.
13:08And so I finally get to host next week after.
13:11So every time Top Gun got delayed,
13:13Lauren called me up and I'm like,
13:15is everybody taking everything in my life?
13:17What's happening?
13:18I'm a movie star.
13:20Let me be a movie star.
13:22Well, listen, you can see Glenn in the running band
13:25from next Wednesday.
13:26Very good.
13:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
13:35Meanwhile, in another part of the forest,
13:37Michelle Yeoh brings us the epic conclusion
13:39to the wicked saga, Wicked For Good.
13:42It's out on the 21st of November.
13:45So this is essentially like the second act.
13:47Yes.
13:48Right.
13:49So if people miss the first act or...
13:50Doesn't matter.
13:51Yeah.
13:52But you know the yellow brick road.
13:53Yeah.
13:54So...
13:55You should watch the first one.
13:56Of course.
13:57Of course.
13:58So where do we find Madame Marble now?
14:01What's going on as we join act two?
14:03So act two is much more emotional
14:05because as in act one,
14:07you've met all the different characters
14:09and they've made choices.
14:11And with choices, there are consequences.
14:14The yellow brick road is being built
14:16and then Elphaba has been ostracized.
14:20She's now living by herself in the forest.
14:23And she's got the Book of Spells,
14:26which is something that Madame Marble wants back
14:28most desperately.
14:30So she's made Elphaba the Wicked Witch.
14:33When, in all honesty, Madame Marble,
14:36MM, flip it around,
14:39Wicked Witch!
14:40Oh!
14:41Oh!
14:42Yes!
14:43She's a real manipulator!
14:45Yeah!
14:46Wizard of Oz!
14:48Oh!
14:49I'm still trying to work it out.
14:51World Wide Web!
14:56It's stunning.
15:03I mean, John Chu, as usual,
15:05with Alice Brooks,
15:07it's such a cinematic experience,
15:09like one.
15:10But this one leads you down paths.
15:13You meet who's the Tin Man,
15:15who is the Scarecrow,
15:16who is the cowardly lion.
15:19Yeah.
15:20And most important,
15:22what happens to Elphaba and Glinda?
15:25And part of Madame Marble's job
15:28is kind of promoting Glinda as the Good Witch.
15:31And we've got a clip,
15:32and this is you helping Glinda on her way.
15:35LAUGHTER
15:41And love me Ariana Grande there.
15:44Oh, she's brilliant.
15:45And am I right,
15:46because you've never been in a musical before?
15:48Never.
15:49This is my first time.
15:50I went...
15:51Jon Chu, bless him,
15:52because we worked together in Crazy Rich Asians.
15:54Yeah, yeah.
15:55And so he wrote to me and he said,
15:57Michelle, can you read the script?
15:58I would love you to play Madame Marble.
16:00And I was like,
16:01Madame who?
16:02And Wicked.
16:03I knew...
16:04I've heard of Wicked,
16:05but I hadn't gone to see it in West End or in New York.
16:08There's a gasp of horror.
16:09I know.
16:10How could you?
16:12So anyway, I read it and I go,
16:13I call him back and go like,
16:14uh, excuse me, it's a musical.
16:16She sings, you know?
16:18And he go like,
16:19you know I don't sing, right?
16:21He goes, nah, you'll be fine.
16:23And typical of Jon,
16:25he can convince you to do the impossible.
16:28And so he convinced me.
16:29Wow.
16:30And I'm so glad he did,
16:31because the first time when I walked onto the stage
16:34and it was a forest scene
16:36and I suddenly,
16:37you know,
16:38it's like you walk in,
16:39it's silence,
16:40like this,
16:41and suddenly you hear a voice.
16:44And it was just Cynthia warming up.
16:46She wasn't even singing a song yet.
16:49Her voice is just so incredible.
16:51Yeah.
16:52So when I had my singing,
16:54and thanks to her,
16:55I'm in Billboard 100 in that song because of her.
16:59Yeah.
17:01Woo!
17:02That was amazing.
17:05They sing life,
17:07both her,
17:08Cynthia and Ariana,
17:09even when she's in the harness,
17:11doing all those somersaults,
17:13she's singing life.
17:14It's amazing.
17:15These two girls are just like little angels.
17:18And when it came to my turn to sing with her,
17:21typical, you know,
17:22we have the tic tic tic tic,
17:24and then it's your turn to sing,
17:25and I'm like...
17:26I literally was just doing,
17:29like miming the words.
17:31And Cynthia just took my hand,
17:33she goes like,
17:34I know you can do this.
17:35I've heard you before.
17:37And having that kind of,
17:39you know,
17:40when someone takes you out and giving you that confidence,
17:43was one of the most beautiful things I had.
17:45And so I sang with her.
17:47Yeah.
17:48And we were on Billboard 100.
17:49I did.
17:54This is rare.
17:55Very rare.
17:56We have not one,
17:57but two Bond girls on our sofa long.
18:00Honestly.
18:01Because Rosamund...
18:05Rosamund was in Die Another Day,
18:07and then Michelle,
18:09you were in Tomorrow Never Dies.
18:11Tomorrow Never Dies.
18:12Both of your bonds were Pierce Brosnan.
18:13Yes, Rosamund.
18:14Is it true?
18:15You said no to this.
18:16You didn't want to do it.
18:17Or is that not true?
18:18I thought I was offered to play 007.
18:23You were like,
18:24yeah, good idea.
18:25Yeah, I'll do that.
18:26Because I didn't fit in the traditional Bond girl.
18:31I thought.
18:33So I had to prove them wrong.
18:35Yeah.
18:36Yes.
18:39But Pierce was keen that you did do fighting.
18:41Yes.
18:42He's amazing.
18:43He's...
18:44You know when you are confident as a man,
18:47right?
18:48When you see a woman fighting,
18:49you go,
18:50good for you.
18:51You know how to take care of yourself.
18:53I don't have to lift you up all the time.
18:56So when we did the action sequences,
18:58Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson were fantastic.
19:00I'm sure you knew them.
19:01Mm-hmm.
19:02And she...
19:03They...
19:04I brought my own team from Hong Kong.
19:06I would love for you to do stunts in Hong Kong.
19:09If you love to do your own stunts.
19:10I would love to do that.
19:11Yeah.
19:12That's the place to do.
19:13I will not be a Bond girl.
19:14No.
19:15Okay.
19:16We'll do the Bond girl thing.
19:17Okay.
19:18Yeah.
19:19And we did this whole action sequence in the bicycle shop.
19:22You know?
19:23And the...
19:24Because in Hong Kong, we don't have rehearsal times.
19:28We walk onto the set, fully dressed, ready to go,
19:31and we are told exactly what we have to do.
19:34So right there and then, they'll say,
19:36okay, these two guys are coming at you.
19:39And we shoot it right away.
19:41That's how...
19:42Oh, my God.
19:43I know.
19:44Super dangerous.
19:45Super dangerous.
19:46Yeah.
19:47But I think that's the way we've always made movies in Hong Kong
19:50in the 80s.
19:51Because that was how it was.
19:53And Pierce would just come onto the set, fold his arms,
19:56watch, and go like, yeah, I like this.
19:59So, yeah, he was really, really cool.
20:01He didn't have any feeling that...
20:04And it's true.
20:05You're James Bond.
20:06Who's gonna take that away from you, right?
20:08Totally.
20:09Yeah.
20:10I had a great time.
20:11Cos, Rosamund, am I right that you didn't know a lot about Bond?
20:14No, I mean, this story makes me sound like an idiot.
20:17LAUGHTER
20:19I was so young, but that's very sweet of you.
20:21It's not really an excuse.
20:23LAUGHTER
20:24Yes, I hadn't...
20:25No, yes, I hadn't...
20:26I hadn't seen a Bond film when I got cast.
20:28Is that...
20:29Your parents were very protective.
20:30They thought they were too...
20:31We didn't have a television.
20:32OK.
20:33Weirdo.
20:34LAUGHTER
20:37She grew up in a cabin.
20:39It's lovely.
20:40It's really nice.
20:41It's not COVID at all.
20:42She lives off-grid in Prague.
20:44LAUGHTER
20:49But then you got invited to...
20:51To audition, yeah.
20:52Yeah.
20:53And they said, you know, just wear some of your own clothes,
20:55you know, some business attire and an evening dress.
20:58And I didn't have...
20:59Well, I didn't have business attire, so I had to go to my neighbour
21:02and borrow that.
21:03But I did have evening dress, cos my mother was a singer.
21:07So she had a great sort of 80s evening dress made by my grandmother,
21:11which was beautiful, kind of big silk taffeta, you know,
21:15like a peacock.
21:16It had huge roses on it.
21:17I thought the roses were a bit much, so I took them off.
21:19Anyway, I arrived with this dress in its huge bag,
21:22you know, at the...at the audition.
21:25And the costume designers and Barbara Broccoli looked at this dress
21:28and they said, well, that...
21:29That is...that is a very, very beautiful dress,
21:32but Bond girls wear things more like this.
21:35And they held up what looked like, to me, like five pieces of string.
21:39LAUGHTER
21:41That's true.
21:42And I realised then that I had a whole education yet to happen.
21:46But you got the part.
21:47I did.
21:48Well, they thought, we've got to teach this poor girl something.
21:50LAUGHTER
21:51Listen, you can see Michelle in Wicked For Good from the 21st of November.
21:56November.
21:57Yeah.
21:58Meanwhile, Rosamund Pike's latest movie offering is
22:03Now You See Me, Now You Don't.
22:05It's in cinemas from the 14th of November.
22:07That's next Friday.
22:08So, yeah.
22:09So this is the third item in this series of kind of magicians,
22:15kind of Robin Hood magicians who do these big heists.
22:18Yes.
22:19So how do you fit into the world?
22:21Has anyone seen the Now You See Me movies?
22:23CHEERING
22:25They're gorgeous.
22:26They're gorgeous movies, which is why I wanted to be part of it.
22:28It's a group of magicians who are a motley crew,
22:31a kind of motley family, a dysfunctional family, if you were.
22:34And they set out to tear down some of the nastiest people on the planet
22:40and redistribute their wealth, people who've earned wealth
22:44through very, you know, nefarious methods.
22:48And I play one of those people.
22:49It's my villain era.
22:51LAUGHTER
22:52I play a diamond heiress who's heiress to a diamond mine.
22:56She's South African and she's definitely trading with people
23:00she shouldn't.
23:01Her diamonds are covered in blood.
23:03Her money's covered in blood.
23:04It's all the nasty stuff.
23:06I love her name.
23:07And we will relish.
23:08Tell us her name.
23:09Her name is Veronica van der Berg.
23:12Or Veronica van der Berg.
23:14Ver Berg?
23:15If we're South African here.
23:18LAUGHTER
23:19But listen, we have a clip.
23:20This is you as Veronica van der Berg showing off your diamond
23:24to one of the four horsemen played by Jesse Eisenberg.
23:26The wonderful Jesse Eisenberg.
23:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
23:33Now, Rosamund, you are known for doing research for roles,
23:36so how do you get into this?
23:38Did you kind of meet people who own incredibly big diamonds and things?
23:42Well, I tried.
23:43I mean, I tried to meet all the people who deal with, you know,
23:46in the arms trade and who sort of fund small wars.
23:49I mean, I really tried.
23:51I tried to...
23:52I'm playing a horrible person.
23:53Wow.
23:54Would you like to be my muse?
23:55Would you like to be my muse?
23:56LAUGHTER
23:57Can I take you out for lunch and ask you all about the nefarious dealings
24:00you do?
24:01And, of course, everyone I managed to find was utterly reasonable,
24:06very kind of ethical, and that was just not what I wanted.
24:09So I knew that within about five minutes of meeting them
24:11and thought, now what do I talk about for the rest of the lunch?
24:14LAUGHTER
24:15Because, you know, all I'm interested in is how you do this job,
24:18how you do ill in this business.
24:20Yeah.
24:21Which, of course, you know, for all I know, they were my character
24:24and they were just hiding it, but, you know, maybe.
24:26Well, weirdly, someone who does know about the whole jewellery industry
24:30is Jack Whitehall.
24:31This is so weird.
24:32What?
24:33What?
24:34Didn't you do...?
24:35Oh, no.
24:36No, didn't you...?
24:37No, I did an event recently.
24:38Yes.
24:39The Louvre?
24:40Robert?
24:41No, it wasn't the Louvre.
24:42LAUGHTER
24:43You're near here.
24:44You're not that hot.
24:46It was so bad.
24:47That's a good one.
24:48I was doing this thing, I was booked to do the jewellery awards,
24:51the Grand Prix de la Haute Jewellery in Monaco,
24:54and it was full of French speakers.
24:56It was like the sort of Oscars of jewellery.
24:58They put me as host for some reason and I was like,
25:02what the hell am I going to talk about at jewellery awards?
25:04And then it was the same week as the Louvre heist.
25:06So I was like, oh, my God, thank you, comedy gods.
25:09Like, there's my monologue.
25:11I turn up to this event, it was all French speakers.
25:14I was the only person speaking English on the stage.
25:17The woman that came out before me was like the Anna Wintour of jewellery
25:21and she gave a speech in French that obviously I did not understand
25:24but I was subsequently told that in the speech she had said quite
25:28earnestly that the Louvre heist was one of the most tragic things
25:31ever to happen to the French people and that the nation would
25:35rally together and get through this difficult time.
25:38Ladies and gentlemen, Jack Whitehall, I walked out in a high-vis vest
25:42with a load of prop jewellery that I bought on Sheen.
25:46I was like, right, who wants Napoleon's tiara?
25:49Fucking tumbleweed.
25:52It was...
25:53Oh, right on my arse.
25:55It was...
25:56Oh, no.
25:57That is amazing.
25:58Oh.
26:02I think I said the word heist five times in my monologue,
26:05which it turns out at jewellery awards saying heist
26:07is like shouting bomb at an airport.
26:09It was horrendous.
26:11It was horrendous.
26:12I love that thing that came out a couple of days ago
26:14that their security password is Louvre.
26:17Really?
26:18Probably with a zero instead of an O.
26:22No, no.
26:23Not even an exclamation mark at the end.
26:25Just Louvre.
26:26Louvre.
26:27Yeah.
26:28Got it.
26:29Reminder that Now You See Me, Now You Don't.
26:30That opens next Friday.
26:32But...
26:35If psychological gorillas are your thing,
26:37Jack Whitehall brings us a new series.
26:39It's called Malice and it's out on the 14th of November
26:42on Prime Video.
26:43And here is a bit of the trailer.
26:50I was saying to you backstage, Jack, this is so impressive.
26:53It's a really different sort of role for you.
26:56So tell us who you play, what's going on.
26:58Yeah, so I play Adam, who is this very charming Manny tutor
27:03that's invited into this wealthy family's home to look after
27:07their kids, but he's got an ulterior motive and is sort of
27:12hell-bent on getting vengeance on David Duchovny's character
27:15who plays the sort of patriarch of the family.
27:17And it is proper.
27:19It goes to really dark places.
27:21Yeah.
27:22I mean, it's kind of got a White Lotus-y vibe.
27:23There's a little bit of, as Rosamund was saying backstage,
27:26wealth porn.
27:29There's definitely a bit of that sort of, you know, glamorous,
27:31you know, picturesque Greek island and all of that.
27:35But then, yeah, it's got a kind of talented Mr Ripley vibe
27:38as well.
27:39Yeah.
27:40This cuckoo-in-the-nest thriller.
27:41For me, it's just a completely different part to anything I've
27:43ever played before because I'm playing a proper villain in it.
27:46And, yeah, it was really fun.
27:49And now, there's quite a lot of sexy time in Malice.
27:52There's a little...
27:54Yes, my character is also sexually quite adventurous.
27:58Oh, yes.
27:59And...
28:00Episode two, everybody.
28:01Yes, episode two.
28:02Episode two.
28:03In the second episode, he attends a sex club and participates in an orgy.
28:09Oh, wow.
28:10Of the homosexual variety?
28:12Well, I think it's all welcome.
28:13Every variety.
28:14Everyone's welcome.
28:15Yes.
28:16No, the phrase just came into my head there that it's definitely not
28:19appropriate for a television show.
28:20Anyway...
28:21We can cut it out afterwards.
28:22Any holes of gold.
28:23I, er...
28:24Please do.
28:25And please do.
28:26Um...
28:27Anyway...
28:28Oh, God.
28:29My mum and dad are in tonight.
28:30I, er...
28:31Right.
28:32So, yes.
28:33He goes to an orgy.
28:34And I read that on the page.
28:35And I was like, oh, you know, my head, it's like sort of eyes wide shut.
28:38It'll be quite erotic.
28:39Far from erotic.
28:41We filmed it at eight o'clock in the morning on a Tuesday in a strip club in Watford called
28:46Beavers.
28:47And I was there with a lot of other people.
28:51And there was one gentleman in particular who I had to have quite a lot of intimacy with.
28:55And he was, er, not a Bond girl.
28:58He was a middle-aged man from Hemel Hempstead called Jeff.
29:02He was stood there with like a cushion strapped round his midriff.
29:06And the actual intimacy with him was quite awkward.
29:10But the most awkward bit was like the breaks in filming.
29:13When there was like a little pause and then we had to...
29:15Yeah, the chit-chat.
29:16Yeah, the chit-chat.
29:17Yeah, yeah.
29:18During one of the breaks of this very intense scene, he genuinely turned to me and went,
29:22Jack, I hope you wouldn't mind, but could I get a selfie?
29:25I was like, er, yeah, maybe we could wait till after the orgy.
29:30It's not orgy etiquette to have a selfie.
29:33He was like, it's just that my son's a really big fan of yours.
29:36I thought he fucking won't be when he sees this.
29:39Malice starts next Friday.
29:44Jack Whitehall, everybody.
29:47OK.
29:48It is time to meet our music guest tonight.
29:52This man has won four Grammys and seven Brit Awards
29:55and is one of the biggest names in pop music.
29:58Please welcome Mr. Ed Sheeran.
30:00Here he comes.
30:01There you go.
30:02Yeah.
30:03It's Ed Sheeran.
30:04Right now.
30:05Woo!
30:06You good.
30:07I'm good.
30:08Excellent.
30:09Now, do you know Glenn?
30:10No.
30:11No.
30:12No?
30:13Oh, well, now you do.
30:14I know who he is.
30:15Oh.
30:16It's Ed Sheeran.
30:17Not as close as me and Jack, but we'll get there.
30:20Were you in the orgy as well?
30:21I was.
30:22I was.
30:23It's a busy time, yeah.
30:24I'm still left out.
30:25It'll be season two.
30:26Don't worry, Ed.
30:27Michelle Yeoh.
30:28A big Ed Sheeran fan.
30:29Big fan.
30:30We've met before, yeah, yeah.
30:31He met at the Met Garland.
30:32You were so sweet.
30:33You were with Stella.
30:34That was a mad night.
30:35It was a big man.
30:36It was a big man.
30:37I was a big man.
30:38I was a big man.
30:39I was a big man.
30:40I was a big man.
30:41I was a big man.
30:42I was a big man.
30:43I was a big man.
30:44I was a big man.
30:45I was a big man.
30:46I was a big man.
30:47You were so sweet.
30:48You were with Stella.
30:49You too.
30:50That was a mad night.
30:51It was the first time I'd ever been to anything like that.
30:52And it was like, you know, you go in on your own and suddenly there's just everyone you've
30:56ever seen, ever.
30:57Wow.
30:58Is that the first Met Gala you've been to?
31:00Yeah.
31:01I don't know.
31:02I'm kind of like, I feel like I've done it now.
31:04You know?
31:05There was a curiosity.
31:06Yes.
31:07And it was fun.
31:08You could walk up to anyone.
31:09No one had any entourage.
31:10You could just walk up to anyone and be like that.
31:12Sounds like my orgy.
31:13But he had a beautiful suit on, okay?
31:16Yeah.
31:17Nice.
31:18It's not just a cushion.
31:19No.
31:20With a cushion.
31:21Is that what it was for?
31:26Have you been back to Beavers since?
31:31No.
31:32Do you know it?
31:33I think it's amazing that there's a strip club called Beavers.
31:36You're called Beavers.
31:37I love that.
31:40Now, we're very excited, Ed, because you are performing for us tonight.
31:43I hope so.
31:44Yeah, no, you are.
31:45I hope so.
31:46We all hope so.
31:47There's a lot of lights over there.
31:50Something better happen.
31:51What are you performing for us?
31:53Playing a song called Camera.
31:54Ah, okay.
31:55Whoa!
31:56That is off the album Play, but now Play is out in a deluxe.
32:00You've got the new version.
32:01Yeah.
32:02This is the deluxe one.
32:03It's out on the 28th of November.
32:04It's almost like a coffee table book.
32:06It's gorgeous.
32:07Yeah, do you know what?
32:08There was a few iterations of this record.
32:11I did a lot of exploring musically and different things.
32:15And then I ended up just moving to India for a bit and making the record there and finishing
32:20it with, like, amazing Indian musicians and producers and translators and blah, blah, blah.
32:25But there was, like, a good two months where I made a load of songs with Dave as a producer
32:30on this, but they sort of live in their own world, but they didn't necessarily live.
32:34So the iterations of the record are essentially the extended version of this.
32:39Now, this one's called Play.
32:40And we know, you know, a lot of your album titles were kind of the mathematical symbols,
32:45multiply each other.
32:46So Play, so this is a new era?
32:49Yeah.
32:50So this, I kind of see this as it's called stereo.
32:52It would be like play, pause, rewind, fast forward, stop.
32:55And I don't want to bring everyone down, but you have already got a plan for a posthumous album.
32:59What?
33:00Yeah, I think that's just sensible.
33:02I've had friends die without wills and it's fucking chaotic.
33:07And all I'm saying is I have a plan for when I pass away.
33:11I know what songs I want at my funeral.
33:13I know where I want to be buried.
33:14I think that's a sensible thing to have.
33:16And there's so many...
33:17Ed, you're very organised.
33:18I don't know, but I think that there's a lot of posthumous albums
33:23that have come out of artists that we know and love that I don't know
33:26if they'd have wanted them out in that sequence or the mixes of it or blah, blah, blah.
33:31So all I'm saying is when I pass away, the thing that comes out is the thing that I want to come out.
33:36And has that album got a title?
33:37Eject.
33:38Eject.
33:39What?
33:40Eject.
33:41Eject.
33:42Right.
33:43That's amazing.
33:48What does that tour look like?
33:50What, the eject tour?
33:51Yeah.
33:52Maybe I'll just be putting formaldehyde and just sort of taking around.
33:55Ed, this is very exciting.
33:56We must mention the documentary film One Shot.
33:59This is going to be on Netflix.
34:01It's directed by Philip Barantini.
34:03Yeah.
34:04And he's the man who directed Boiling Point and Adolescence.
34:07So One Shot is the thing.
34:09So what is your One Shot, Ed?
34:11I think...
34:12I honestly think that this is the best thing that I've done in my entire life.
34:14I love it.
34:15I love it.
34:16It was...
34:17While I was doing it, I kept looking at Phil being like, you're mad.
34:21The fact...
34:22What his mind does...
34:23Like, the fact...
34:24It was one camera and we start in a venue and then we go out the venue.
34:27And bear in mind it's all live.
34:29There's no, like, extras.
34:31It's just people that we meet on the street.
34:33And by...
34:34We did three takes and by the third take it was, like, chaotic.
34:36People knew that we were doing it.
34:37We couldn't really, like, move around.
34:38But we go from the stage into a taxi.
34:41We then drive in the taxi to the High Line and then we walk across the High Line
34:44and then we play a gig, all playing songs as we walk.
34:48And then we get on the top of a bus and the bus gets...
34:51There's a traffic jam which we didn't, like, take into account.
34:55And then I get off there and then I go into a hotel.
34:57We go up to the top of a hotel.
34:59They then put the camera on a drone which flies down as I'm performing.
35:02And then I run across to an Irish bar and then I leave the Irish bar and get in a car.
35:06And then I drive from the car to the subway.
35:08Then I get on the subway, travel, then play another song walking to the venue
35:13and then play a gig.
35:14It is, it's mad.
35:15Like, really, really mad.
35:16I love it.
35:17We've got a clip.
35:18This is, I just love this.
35:19This is very near the end.
35:20Yeah.
35:21So this is your inner shock.
35:22I genuinely think that's the best thing I've ever been involved in in my career.
35:29Well, listen, seeing you walking to that theatre has got us all in the mood for hearing you sing.
35:34Right.
35:35So, if you'd like to head over to that stage.
35:41There goes Mr. Ed Sheeran.
35:43He's approaching the stage.
35:45He has arrived.
35:46Here, performing camera, it is Ed Sheeran.
35:50Sit, sit for your land, sit for your land.
35:53That choir, so lovely.
35:54Flames, clenched people.
35:55Yeah, yeah, so good.
35:56Well, thank you very much, guys.
35:57Thank you so much.
36:03And, talking of young performers, Ed Sheeran, you've had, this sounds unlikely, you've had a busy week in Parliament.
36:09Yeah.
36:10Yeah.
36:11Yeah.
36:12Ed, tell us what happened.
36:13I wrote Keir Starmer a letter, because I feel like the arts in general, but in schools, have really been, like, underfunded and cut over the last, well, ever since I was a kid.
36:26And I feel like, I went to a state school in Suffolk, and my music teacher was fantastic, and I feel like he is one of the reasons why I am where I am.
36:37And we were just sort of rapidly losing that, and I feel like, as a country, like, yes, we have a lot that we offer, as a country, but the thing that we are most proud of, like, that we are really proud of, everywhere we go around the world, is our art, it's our painters, it's our filmmakers, it's our actors, it's our musicians, it's our poets and comedians.
36:58No, but seriously, but the arts, and it's the thing, you know...
37:04I wasn't even mentioning television.
37:07If, er, you know, and also, not just that, like, financially, it brings 7.6 billion music alone into the UK economy, and so to, like, defund all of that, and then wonder where the next generation of, like, art is going to come from, and, you know, so I wrote a letter to Keir, and I said, er, for one thing,
37:27there's a thing called EBAC that was put on music that, basically, it made it the DOS subject, that if people took it, it wouldn't count as much for universities and blah, blah, blah.
37:36So I asked for that to be removed.
37:37I asked for funding to be put into underprivileged schools for music.
37:41I asked for the curriculum to be changed so it wasn't so classically focused.
37:45It could be, like, pop music, or it could be rock music, or it could be things that make kids want to go, do you know what, I want to learn a Taylor Swift song, not I have to learn Bach and be able to read.
37:55Cos that's not the way that I learnt music.
37:57So that was a curriculum change, and I asked for instruments to be bought for schools.
38:03And I sent this letter maybe, like, eight months ago, and I just thought he'd just read it and gone, do you know what, like, I'm in enough shit at the moment.
38:11But I got a letter back from him maybe two months ago, just basically saying, thank you for your letter, I'll have a think about it.
38:19And that was kind of it, and then about two, three days ago, they said, oh, they're going to bring it up in Parliament, and he approved it.
38:26And it's, yeah, it's gone, it's gone, yeah, it's gone through.
38:29And it's like...
38:31That's so amazing.
38:33Yeah, I think it's like, it's the first step in a lot of things.
38:39I think that Keir Starmer has listened to the first step, my foot's in the door now, and then I can continue badgering him.
38:46Ed, thank you for caring, and I'm sure kids up and down the country, thank you for that.
38:50Always a treat to see you, and thank you for that amazing performance.
38:53Ed Sheeran, everybody!
38:55That's it for tonight, no time for red chairs for the parade, so please say thank you to the rest of my guests, Jack Whitehall!
39:05Rosamund Pike!
39:08Michelle Yeoh!
39:11And Glenn Poe!
39:14Next week is children in need, so we won't be here, but do join me the Friday after that with the music from Sombra, Oscar winner Divine Joy Randolph,
39:22comedy genius Ben Stiller, and the stars of Song Sung Blue, Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman.
39:28I'll see you then, good night, everybody, bye-bye!
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