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00:00I'm very happy to see that is a sitting-down dress. I saw you backstage
00:03I thought will that be a sitting-down dress, but it's good. I'm praying that it is
00:10So what is it it so we can see through it you can it's it's by Dallara
00:15It's like latex. I think Sarah said it best. It's like condom with a doily underneath it
00:22I'm wearing a couch and she's wearing a condom
00:30I know Rachel am I right that you and Kim met at the Academy
00:37Museum gala gala. We were at the same table, but I know I couldn't see anyone
00:46Let's so this is Rachel. This is Rachel who's on the host committee. I was hosting
00:52Looking lovely you're thinking why couldn't Kim see Rachel
01:00You know what I really wanted to commit before I before I walked out
01:05I was in the car and I was about to put the mask on and I text my sister Kylie a picture and
01:10I said should I wear the mask or to go in and take it off or just wear it at the table and
01:15Pretend to not eat or something and she said commit and so I could see through it a little bit
01:21And I saw your hair and the color of your dress and I I knew it was you and then I'm like felt so awkward going up to people like hi
01:30It's Kim
01:32The photo looks like you're in the witness protection
01:42Did have like a full two and a half hour hair and makeup full glam under there
01:49Pitch that when the designer said and the the final piece
01:53Yes, you're gonna love it
01:55It is a man's runway piece like I thought how it was on the runway and I really loved it and it was just it's his vision
02:03It was Glenn Martin at Margiela's vision and I wanted to honor his vision and your shoulder makeup
02:08We get to see that it was lovely your shoulders have never looked finer glowing glowing
02:11Yeah, and Brian is there. I know you bet because Brian you gave Sarah her Emmy
02:17Yes, I did and I I was pleased to do it. I'm trying to remember which one I've only won one. That's the one
02:29Yeah, I you did hand me my Emmy and you don't remember the face that I gave you when I was I was climbing the stairs
02:34Yes, oh living in like an apoplectic terror that I was gonna face plant
02:38Yes, and so and that's why I oh, yeah, what you're not seeing is that I'm looking at you like
02:43Yeah
02:45I was like really giving him the old yeah the old what for in the eyeballs and what's sweet is that Brad would say which one?
02:52He has seven. I know
02:54How dare you?
02:56How dare you?
02:58How dare you?
03:00You just won your latest, you just won your latest for the studio
03:05Which you are so good in. So good. You are so good. You play a kind of big studio
03:10Uber boss. Yeah, and there's that mad final show in the series where is it mushrooms you're on?
03:16I'm I'm on all cut. That's yeah, I'm wearing
03:19I'm wearing a phallus hat and and I'm eating
03:23I'm eating a lobster. I'm absolutely supposed to be out of my mind high. I love this. Thank the experts
03:31Let's see the big this is you. I love that
03:33And that's
03:35They did a weekend of Bernie's tribute to try to get me up and out of the way
03:40And so we're we're doing the scene and and the way Seth Rogen works on this show is fantastic
03:46You all got to say yes when they call you because you have to get out the plot points
03:51But then say whatever you want do whatever you're you're playing the whole time and throwing out ideas
03:57and one time on the this last episode I was in inside the fountain at the Venetian hotel in Las Vegas and there was this
04:08Venetian woman and it was like, oh my god
04:11She was beautiful and and I was you know first kissing her and the next take I was I was fondling her and the next take
04:19She was fondling me and and at one point I thought I'm just gonna try to make the writers laugh because now it's take 16
04:26and
04:29Well, I started copulating this statue. Oh, yeah. Yeah
04:34Yeah, and yeah, and so you and me no
04:39Note to self when in doubt copulate
04:43So I and it was like an interesting thing because I just wanted to make them laugh and that's the take they use
04:50I didn't I didn't realize they were gonna use it at the end didn't realize
04:56Ignore these moves
05:00Let's get started Kim Kardashian and Sarah Paulson are together in the new legal drama series all's fair
05:07It starts here on the 4th of November on Disney plus and now there's a lot of excitement about this
05:14The trailer was the most watched trailer on Hulu of all time
05:18200 million views
05:20ladies and gentlemen
05:26Let's add to those numbers by watching a bit of the trailer now
05:29There you go
05:39Ryan Murphy who you both worked with before so you worked with him so much so many times. He's like the only person who continues to hire
05:46So
05:48So let's get into it. It's an all-female law firm
05:52Who do you play Kim? I play a Laura Grant and we used to work at the same firm, but we leave her which behind
05:59Which is what turned very bitter?
06:01Yes
06:02Yes, and it's me Nisi Nash and Naomi Watts with our mentor Glenn Close
06:07Yes, and we start our own all-female led
06:11Family law divorce firm. Yeah, and you're dealing with your own divorce and yes, I get yes
06:16And is that way so you end up being kind of arch enemies. Well, I was left behind. They started their own firm
06:22We were sort of growing up together. I go out on my own after they don't take me and then I make my life's work about
06:29Murdering them basically
06:31Okay
06:33Fair enough
06:35Here's the thing Kim obviously you are so you know seasoned as a TV performer, you know the queen of reality television, but this is
06:44Different, you know stepping into the acting thing. So what were the kind of do's and don'ts?
06:48What were the things that people told you about before you started this?
06:51I mean working with a cast like this and this is my first big
06:56Project on my own
06:57I wanted to just make sure that I was really prepared
07:00I wanted to make sure that I if I could what if what I can control is
07:04Making sure I absolutely knew my lines was on time super professional. I just wanted it every day
07:09She was on Kim time
07:19I
07:21Mean I've just had the best time the best it's just you have no idea what working with these women is like it's like
07:30Summer camp
07:32It looks it looks like it strikes me that it compared to a lot of the other things in your life. This must be so fun
07:37It is like we've seen those pictures of you guys all the cast in Paris just having such a life. That's your birthday, isn't it?
07:42Yeah, yeah, yes, yes
07:44Was it before production you had the slumber party at your mom's house? It was during production. I
07:50Had never seen fatal attraction. Can you believe this? So working with Glenn?
07:54That's like a must
07:56So we had a slumber party at my mom's house and all watched it
08:00Oh, is that you at the slumber?
08:01This was actually Ryan's our first of course that statue. This is Ryan Murphy's house. There's the statue
08:10What's the left of it
08:15And so you all sat there with Glenn close watching her film yeah, we got her her favorite
08:20Oreo cookie shake Oreo cookie shakes from what's that place? Uh, it was a dairy queen. Yeah, and
08:25Um, and lots of martinis. Yeah. Oh nice. Glenn was lit
08:33Was Glenn relaxed about you all just watching her film? Well first of all she was a little drunk
08:37Yeah
08:39Very very very very very very drunk
08:42Yeah, and hearing her commentary about everything that was going on was so fascinating
08:47And it was so funny like it was yeah
08:51She was talking about needing to like drink a pitcher of margaritas during this one sex scene in the elevator
08:56Yeah
08:56And she said that there was like a pitcher of margaritas on the bottom of the elevator floor
09:00And like every time they cut she would drink one because it was you know that very
09:04Yes scene where there's a lot of things happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah
09:08Yeah, nice nicely described
09:11Including hand gestures
09:13You can tell that like I have a lot of action, right?
09:14Yeah, a lot of things happening
09:16And the good thing I suppose Kim is that you're not going to be intimidated by all these famous actors because you grew up around
09:22Like I remember right was Madonna your neighbor?
09:25She was I would walk her dog when I was eight years old
09:28I would walk her dog and she paid me in remember those like jelly rubber neon bracelets
09:35She paid me in those
09:36She's so cheap
09:40She handed them to me in a shoe box and I went to school
09:42She's a moron child
09:47I remember going to school wearing them and all my friends were like oh my god, that's so cool. Where did you get that?
09:51And I was like Madonna gave it to me
09:54Yeah, right just 70 hours of walking your dog
10:00Sitting in school with the dog
10:02This is her dog
10:03She asked me she's like do you still have the bracelets and I was like no, I don't know what I did with them
10:08She was like that's like you lost the coolest thing in the world
10:12And I was like how could I have given away Madonna's bracelets? I wish I still had them
10:17I like that she's annoyed
10:21You gave them away to a child
10:23Who was walking your dog for free
10:25How precious were they?
10:27I'm talking about Madonna and famously Madonna also played Evita did she rock up to see you?
10:35No
10:37She's cheap, she's not supportive
10:40I love that film
10:42Um, no, but elaine page who originated the role out here came twice which is amazing and then she came again
10:48Did you know she was there?
10:49No
10:49Oh god
10:50I prefer not to
10:51No, of course
10:52Terrifying
10:53You got a letter you got a lovely letter
10:55I got a lovely letter from Dame Judi Dench
10:57Whoa
10:58Which was
10:59Good noise everyone
11:01Again
11:02No, it was not Judi Dench
11:03Yeah
11:04And um
11:05I came into my dressing room and there was this letter on blue paper sitting on my dressing room table
11:10And I didn't I completely like skipped the letterhead
11:12I just was reading what it said
11:14And it was so complimentary so sweet and wonderful
11:17I couldn't really read the um
11:20Signature and then I turned to look at the letterhead and it says from the desk of Dame Judi Dench
11:23And I freaked out it is now in a double-sided frame
11:26That's correct
11:27See watch and learn
11:28Yeah, see
11:29That's where my Julie bracelets would have been
11:34But cut to Dame Judi Dench in the theater she opens up a basket
11:39Eh, nothing
11:41Let's get rid of this one
11:42Man
11:43She made it seem so personal
11:45I would still take it
11:46I would still take it
11:47I'd take a napkin that she like wiped her mouth after eating a hot dog
11:51Yes
11:51I'd take it
11:52Yeah
11:53Absolutely
11:53That would be valuable
11:54Sorry
11:54That would be valuable
11:57Like a mustardy sauerpate
11:59I would just take it and
12:00Mmm
12:01Yeah
12:01I'd put it in a Lucite box
12:03That's what I'm saying
12:04Let's continue
12:05Let's throw all this out
12:08In all's fair obviously we're saying it's the legal drama and Kim you are trading
12:11Where are you in that you're very nearly qualified aren't you?
12:14Um yes
12:14I uh took the bar exam in July and I get it I get the results a few days after our premiere so in two weeks
12:22Oh my god
12:23Oh Yaron please pray for me
12:24I worked really really hard
12:27Why does it take so long?
12:29I don't know
12:30I don't know
12:30It's hand-graded
12:32Yeah
12:32Okay
12:33Yeah
12:33The essays are hand-graded
12:34Was this something that you just always wanted to do or are you going to actually practice law?
12:38I hope to practice law
12:40Oh really?
12:40Maybe in like 10 years I'll give up being Kim K and be a lawyer like a trial lawyer
12:45Amazing
12:45Yeah
12:46That's like my
12:46Kim
12:46Kim
12:47Don't wear this
12:48Unless you want to distract the jury
12:53Yes
12:53It could be my strategy
12:55Yeah
12:55It could be
12:56Yeah
12:56Um because and obviously the law is in your blood your father Robert Kardashian
13:01He was famously part of the team that defended OJ Simpson
13:05How old were you when that was happening?
13:06I was 14
13:07Oh so you do remember it
13:08Yeah I do remember I went to the trial once to visit because my dad was like this is a piece of history
13:13I want you guys to witness it and my mom was Nicole's best friend
13:17So we were at my dad's that week and so my mom and my stepdad are sitting with the brown family on this side
13:23And then my dad pulls us in and we had no idea my mom was going to be there and we're skipping school for this
13:29Oh my god no idea
13:30So we like look over and my mom is like girls you know trying to get our attention in the middle of the trial and we're like do not look at mom
13:38She's like get out of here
13:40I was like well it's dad's time you know like we're with him so yeah
13:45And famously then sarah you played uh marcia clark yes uh in the people versus oj
13:51So did you discuss the trial at all while you're working together?
13:55No not enough actually not enough we did we touched on a few things
13:59But yeah like tea stuff that we really wanted to
14:03Get us yeah, I mean it's such a weird thing to connect you to
14:07Yeah, it is yeah
14:08Yeah, it really is it's really interesting because this was like a really big part of our lives
14:13I mean they portrayed me and my sisters in the show as well
14:17so it was interesting to see that and
14:20I was so I mean like marcia clark would call the house and talk to my mom and I would answer the phone so like i've been
14:26I was so
14:30So was it your father's fame that kind of made the kardashians interesting because you I know you worked with paris hilton and things
14:38What was the thing that kind of sparked the maybe a combination but a lot of like my stepdad and he was like
14:45um
14:46You know doing reality shows and he was kind of out there in the spotlight a lot
14:51So I think it was just the combination of all those things of all of those things and hanging out with paris and being a part of that life
14:59And also just being really good at it
15:01And then well and then they asked us to shoot a pilot
15:04We had no idea what it would really turn into and then a show fell through that they were doing on the e-network
15:10And they're like can you start filming next week and film a whole series?
15:13And so we just kind of got thrown into it and it lasted 20 years. Yeah, it's our it's our
15:1937th season filming a reality show
15:25Well, I mean we switched networks so we did 20 seasons of keeping up with the kardashians 10 seasons of spin-offs
15:31And now this is season seven of the kardashians wow wow spill the tea did you recreate?
15:36No, never no well, we didn't have to every time we were filming something sometimes at the end of the season we were like
15:44every time we're filming we'd fight
15:46We're gonna be so boring we've we filmed every crazy thing that's possibly happened to us
15:50What could we possibly film next and then like my stepdad will turn into a woman and it'll be like
15:56We have like two more seasons
16:08But also we must congratulate you on the success of skin yes
16:16So you know you have an underwear line you think well that's nice what is it valued at something like four billion dollars
16:23I mean that is nuts
16:26And you are properly involved
16:29Yes, yes, I do everything from all the design to pick out all the campaigns I
16:35I do everything that's what like that's my daily job when we were watching
16:38uh fatal attraction the thing that kim was doing was snapping pictures of the
16:42Lingerie that glenn was wearing and then because she was thinking about
16:46Skims ideas and things so it's like it all comes from
16:49That the idea that crazy horse crazy horse we went to the crazy horse the other night
16:53But also it's that thing where you you just have that knack of
16:58Marketing where you come up with something that someone else might have thought of and got it well
17:01No, I'm not going to do that
17:02But you go no, I will and then it just takes over the world like the face
17:07What is it called the thing the face is it a face the face shapewear face?
17:11Yes, we all need a little double chin snatch
17:14So don't say that again
17:16Oh wait
17:21No, we don't
17:22Mine would come up and cover my lips
17:28And is this your idea it was and you wear it at night
17:35All day
17:38But yeah, I mean I just I figured a lot of women they use shapewear for other body parts to hold it up
17:46Why wouldn't you want to hold up your face?
17:48No, it's so I mean hello
17:52Patient zero
17:57And this there was some controversy with your thong and what was it called the ultimate the ultimate bush the ultimate bush the ultimate bush
18:06So we've got so many different colors. There's a selection
18:11A chocolate box
18:13Why don't you ever say chocolate box again, okay?
18:15Don't say chocolate box
18:17Don't say that
18:19Why don't you not say chocolate box again?
18:21No
18:23Wow
18:25Does the carpet match the drapes campaign?
18:27Is that a yeti?
18:29That's like a clear one
18:31A mature platinum blonde
18:33Played clothes
18:35Oh
18:37I recognize that
18:39How the hell did this idea come up?
18:41I love it
18:43I did a photo shoot once and they wanted me to have it was like a crazy shoot and they wanted me to have hair in my
18:52Pantyhose and so then like just to look very like 70s
18:57Like a 70s bush and I just thought how do you get this like
19:04Do we cut like our hair
19:07What
19:11Wow
19:13How do you get your 70s bush and so we just like cut hair extensions and put it in
19:19Like
19:21Lala
19:23But again, we're laughing at it, but at the same time, people love me.
19:28It's sold out. It's sold out in 15 minutes.
19:31I'm wearing one right now.
19:34Please, let's give an applause. Let's see.
19:40I thought I heard something.
19:42Oh, nice rustling.
19:45What does that sound? It's my bush.
19:49My ultimate bush.
19:51What's the next big idea? What's the next thing?
19:54We're going from Merkin's to Skims Beauty.
19:58Oh! Exciting!
20:00We're launching all makeup and fragrance and, yeah.
20:05Oh, my God, I love it.
20:06Starting with fragrance, then into beauty and amazing body products
20:10and really fun Skims Beauty.
20:13I told you, an impressive person.
20:15The unstoppable Kim Kardashian.
20:17Genuinely.
20:18It really is.
20:21All right, let's move on to Rachel Zegler.
20:24Talk of the town this summer in the sold out run of Evita at the London Palladium.
20:28Now, the cast album, if you didn't see it, you can hear it because the cast album is out now.
20:35Yes!
20:36So, we were talking about saying, so you're doing your eight shows a week, you're stepping up, you're being Miss West End.
20:45Yes.
20:46But you're recording this at the same time?
20:48Yes, in a very amazing way that allows people who listen to it to hear it the way that it was performed.
20:54It was recorded live at the Palladium, which is amazing.
20:57And they recorded the whole show over the course of like eight or nine of them.
21:00And then when we came in for like, you know, what we would call pickups, where we would just, you know, refine certain things.
21:05It was all on stage at the theatre.
21:07Oh, wow.
21:08With the mics that we were using every night.
21:09And the finished product, I'm very, very proud.
21:12I think it's so fantastic.
21:13Well, listen, let's just remind ourselves of Rachel's amazing performance.
21:18Oh, God.
21:19So good.
21:20I had goosebumps.
21:22I had goosebumps.
21:23You were at opening night, weren't you?
21:27I was at opening night.
21:29I was at opening night with Pedro Pascal and, yeah, there we are.
21:33My angel.
21:34Yeah, his...
21:35My mom and dad.
21:36Mom and dad.
21:37Am I really old enough to be your mother?
21:39No.
21:40No.
21:41No.
21:42And even if you were, no.
21:43Yeah.
21:44Totally not.
21:45One second.
21:48I was at opening night.
21:53It was one of the more extraordinary things I've ever seen.
21:55I know.
21:56And you were there.
21:57I saw it.
21:58I saw it later.
21:59Yeah.
22:00It was...
22:01That's ridiculous.
22:02And you and Pedro went to see you?
22:03We went to see you and we waited a very long time for you and you never came out.
22:08I'm so sorry.
22:09But I think it was because, you know...
22:11It was press night.
22:12It was press night.
22:13It was press night.
22:14I remember Pedro and I being like, we've never been two bigger losers than we are right now.
22:18Never, never, never, never.
22:19And we had been like weeping and screaming and jumping up and I was like...
22:21And I could see you the whole time.
22:23You could?
22:24Oh, yeah.
22:25It was the most, I think, extraordinary performance I've seen on stage in a very long time.
22:29I'm so glad I saw it.
22:30It was really remarkable.
22:32It was like...
22:33Thank you so much.
22:34Did you see it?
22:35No.
22:36Oh, my God.
22:37Amazing.
22:38And tell me this.
22:39You know, you as a little girl, I think you wanted to play Evita.
22:42Yeah.
22:43But you can't even, in your mind, ever imagined it being like this.
22:46Not at all.
22:47I thought, I will do it in my community theatre and that will be enough.
22:50And then I did it for...
22:51Do it now in the community theatre.
22:52I would love to do it.
22:53I'd go back in a heartbeat.
22:55It'd be so fun.
22:56I never could have imagined it would be in this format with these amazing people.
23:00Some of them are in the audience tonight.
23:01Really?
23:02Aww.
23:03Where are you guys?
23:04Hey!
23:09I love them so much.
23:10Yeah.
23:11So...
23:12It's the best.
23:13It was amazing.
23:14Here's the thing.
23:15So, everyone in the theatre loved it.
23:17But then there was this moment that everyone was talking about.
23:20Where people outside the theatre get to love you too.
23:24So, we've got to look at...
23:25Before we see that...
23:26Yeah.
23:27So, describe...
23:28I mean, you don't know.
23:29So, describe to Kim what happened.
23:30Absolutely.
23:31It's essentially...
23:32Intermission happens.
23:33With this act two, yeah.
23:34Yeah.
23:35And during the intermission, I'm getting into what the public knows as Evita
23:38with the blonde wig and the big white dress.
23:40And a camera at the top of act two would follow me outside to the balcony of the palladium
23:45and stream into the theatre so that the theatre goers could see.
23:49There's Rachel up there.
23:50Wow.
23:51Yeah.
23:52There's little tiny me.
23:53Wow.
23:54And so, did you know that it was going to turn into this huge withdrawal?
23:57Not at all.
23:58Because when we were doing tech for it, one or two people would kind of stop and be like,
24:02oh, looks like the girl from Snow White.
24:04Ching!
24:05And walk away.
24:06And then all of a sudden, it was like TikTok viral the next day.
24:09And then by the end of the run, we had 130,000 people that had come over the course of 12 weeks.
24:15Because they couldn't get a ticket.
24:16Wow.
24:17They couldn't get a ticket.
24:18And they knew exactly what time she was going to get out.
24:20Exactly when to come to the table.
24:21Fantastic.
24:22It was amazing.
24:23A clip that says what someone just shot from the street.
24:26Oh, no.
24:27And I don't know why this, I find this so moving.
24:30But this is just, this is Rachel singing her heart out in Argyle Street.
24:34And just listen to the crowd.
24:36All you have to do is look at me alone.
24:41It's so fire.
24:42It's a pin drop.
24:43Yeah.
24:48That was good.
24:49It was also in the audience one night was your mentor,
24:52the man who kind of shot you to fame in West Side Story,
24:54Steven Spielberg rocked up.
24:56There he is.
24:57Oh!
24:58He, he, she did see him, Sarah.
25:00Yeah, clearly.
25:01He didn't wait for an hour and a half.
25:03I'm so, so sorry.
25:05And that's what happens when you come two weeks before you close.
25:09He's the best.
25:10I can't, I still, like, it was, it was one of those really weird out-of-body experiences
25:14where I was performing on stage and I could just see his silhouette perfectly.
25:18Oh, God.
25:19And it was like I was 17 again.
25:20You didn't know he was going to be there?
25:21I knew he was coming.
25:22I didn't know when.
25:23Yeah.
25:24And I felt like I was 17 auditioning for West Side Story again being like,
25:26I hope he likes me.
25:27I really hope he likes me.
25:28And I think he did.
25:29Yeah.
25:30I, I think every, I think everyone did.
25:31I hope he did.
25:32Because actually, Brian, you've worked with Spielberg, haven't you?
25:34Yes.
25:35I, I did, uh, Saving Private Ryan.
25:37I, I, but I, just a, a small role, I played a one-armed colonel.
25:41There you are.
25:42Oh.
25:43Oh, you got, basically.
25:44Oh, good.
25:45Look at it.
25:46Yeah.
25:47And so when they shot me.
25:48As, as described, I think you'll find.
25:49Yeah.
25:50Fine.
25:51Laughing at the handicap.
25:52Uh, so my...
25:53You, you tell them, Brian.
25:54You tell them.
25:55I tell them.
25:56Doing that shot, my arm was actually on my bum, holding my bum as it is.
26:05And, uh, so I, I thought, well, how would a guy like that operate in life?
26:10And I thought, okay, I'm gonna figure out how to, how to have a little demitasse cup and a glass.
26:16And I'm reading that note down here, and I'm stirring this, tap, tap, put the spoon on the saucer, put the saucer down, turn the page.
26:24You know, and I, so I was really excited.
26:26I worked on this for like a week, because I wasn't working on it.
26:29And, and Steven comes in, and I go, Steven, I want to show you something.
26:33And I showed him the whole thing, and I go, you know, I'm reading the report.
26:36You know, I got the thing.
26:37I, I stir my coffee, tap, tap, put the spoon on the demitasse, put it down, turn the page.
26:43And he goes, yeah, good.
26:45We're not gonna do that.
26:46That's so beautiful.
26:49Do something.
26:50I like the way you look like you still remember how to do it.
26:53I was like, I was just working on it for so long.
26:56I'm really damned if you get to do it somewhere.
26:57Yeah.
26:58I know.
26:59Actually, I'm realising a lot, but you also worked with Steven Spielberg.
27:00Yes, I did.
27:01And The Post.
27:02The Post.
27:03I played Tom Hanks' wife.
27:04Oh, there.
27:05Incredible.
27:06Look at how young I look.
27:07I love that movie.
27:08Yeah.
27:09And then he, you were directing, and you asked him for advice.
27:13Yeah, I was gonna direct an episode, I did direct an episode of American Horror Story.
27:16Woo!
27:18And it was the hardest thing I ever did in my life, and the scariest thing I've ever done,
27:24and kind of very confronting, because I realised I'm really like a glass half empty kind of person,
27:28and that's really not the spirit that you want when the person is directing.
27:32But he did give me great advice, which he said, to change your shoes at lunch.
27:36Huh?
27:37Okay.
27:38For someone else?
27:39No.
27:40Like, go and bring a second pair of shoes, so that you're like, because your feet get tired.
27:44Yeah.
27:45You know, while you actors are off in your trailers.
27:46Oh, look at how it is now.
27:47You see what I mean?
27:48Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:49We're over here just really working.
27:50But you were acting in the show that you were also directing.
27:52I was.
27:53That's crazy.
27:54How did that work?
27:55That was not great.
27:56No?
27:57That was hard.
27:58So many shoes.
27:59So many shoes.
28:00I needed my shoes, my character shoes, my Steven Spielberg directing shoes.
28:04Yeah.
28:05Was your director self complimentary to your actor self?
28:07No.
28:08She thought I was terrible.
28:10Oh, very quickly, lots of rumours flying around.
28:15Will America get to see your Evita?
28:18Are you going to Broadway?
28:19It's not up to me.
28:20I would love to.
28:21Who's it up to?
28:22I don't know.
28:23God?
28:24Like...
28:25So you say yes.
28:26Dude, I need you to make this happen.
28:28So if it doesn't happen, it's not you.
28:30Yeah, I'm in.
28:31I want to do it so badly because I am a New Yorker.
28:34I want to bring this thing that I love so much to my home.
28:37And in your head, do you know what theatre you'd like to be in with a nice balcony?
28:41It would be so cool to just have something that had like a plaza across the street so that we don't have to stop traffic.
28:48Yes.
28:49In New York?
28:50Especially in the theatre district in Times Square.
28:52Oh, well I so hope it happens for everyone over there.
28:55Thank you so much.
28:56Rachel Zegler.
28:58Seven a week.
28:59Seven a week.
29:00Seven a week.
29:01Seven a week.
29:02I have more good news for theatre lovers.
29:04Bryan Cranston is returning to London's West End.
29:07They're thrilled.
29:08They're excited.
29:09He stars in Arthur Miller's All My Sons.
29:13It starts at Wyndham's Theatre on the 14th of November.
29:17And this is obviously the Arthur Miller classic directed by the great Ivo van Hove.
29:22And he's one of those people, he's a bit like Jamie Lloyd.
29:24He takes these kind of pieces you think you know and then he shakes them up.
29:28So is there a big idea behind this production?
29:31There are several big ideas behind it.
29:33I'm not at liberty to reveal what that is.
29:37But you always are surprised with Ivo's productions.
29:41You know, we did network together and it was, you know, jarring and fascinating.
29:48And we're having fun.
29:50It's a great cast and it's a beautiful play.
29:53Arthur Miller wrote this in the late 1940s right after World War II.
29:57And it's about betrayal and family and ideology and, you know, death and family.
30:06It's a comedy.
30:07And also the other thing apparently you like British audiences.
30:12I do.
30:13Very much.
30:17Have you worked here before?
30:18Oh my god.
30:19Well, what's the difference?
30:21Well, first of all, first of all, we're in a country that actually truly values art.
30:25Cares about the theatre.
30:26Yes.
30:27And theatre of all kinds and supports it.
30:29Yeah.
30:30In America, it's commercialized.
30:32Yeah.
30:33That's what it is.
30:34It really is commercialized.
30:35In America, at the end of a play, it could be a terrible play.
30:39Yeah.
30:40And everyone went, oh!
30:41Whoa!
30:42Whoa!
30:43Oh my god!
30:45And I'm sitting there going, oh my god, this play was awful.
30:48And I feel compelled now to stand up.
30:51In Britain, they do not stand.
30:54If they don't like it.
30:55And they will give you a polite applause to the level of their appreciation.
31:00And as performers, I appreciate that.
31:06Don't stand up out of obligation.
31:09No.
31:10If something we did on stage compels you to stand and cheer, fantastic.
31:15But if it doesn't, don't.
31:17I like the lazy British audience where they don't give you a standing ovation,
31:20they do the high clap.
31:22They feel like, I would stand, but fuck that.
31:26You get the idea.
31:28I really liked it.
31:29Yeah.
31:30Good.
31:31See?
31:32Oh, there you are.
31:37But no, but Rachel Zegler is nodding along.
31:41But you haven't experienced that.
31:42You did not.
31:43Your audience were on their feet every night.
31:44Well, that, yes.
31:45And that was very nice.
31:46It was a very singular experience.
31:48I did a play in New York and I completely agree with the pity scene.
31:51With the pity stand that happens where it's like, they're just...
31:54Yeah, they're just...
31:55It's just so...
31:56They're standing because it's over.
31:57And...
31:58You know, and it's lovely and it feels lovely, but not unless you feel like you've really,
32:02really earned it.
32:03And I was...
32:04We were very fortunate on...
32:05No, but I've never said...
32:06Evita, you turned people into Americans.
32:09Because the standing ovation went on for so long.
32:12Yeah.
32:13Yeah.
32:14I saw Pedro stand after Rainbow High.
32:15Yeah, yeah.
32:16No, in the middle of Rainbow High.
32:17I was like, sit down.
32:18And I was like, Dad, you're embarrassing me in front of my friends.
32:22And next, you refused to see them backstage.
32:24Yes, exactly.
32:25I did refuse.
32:26You were like, I will stop.
32:28No.
32:29I see them back now.
32:30Pedro, who?
32:31Let them sit.
32:32Steven Spielberg.
32:33Steven Spielberg.
32:34Bring them on.
32:35Bring them on.
32:36Bring them on.
32:37I'm interested, Kip.
32:38Listening to these guys talking about being on stage and kind of, you know, the highs
32:42and lows and the rewards of that, any desire?
32:44Sounds terrifying.
32:45OK.
32:46Nothing scares me.
32:47That means you'll do it.
32:48That means you'll do it.
32:49Well, then now I need it to happen.
32:50OK.
32:51Now I need it to happen.
32:52And I also am like, I know what I would not be good at.
32:55So...
32:56You don't know.
32:57You don't know anything.
32:58You know nothing.
32:59You know nothing.
33:01But you think it would scare you.
33:03Yeah, absolutely.
33:04Nothing scares her.
33:05So this is very interesting information.
33:07Yeah, I just...
33:08You don't get nervous.
33:10And I don't think I would get nervous.
33:12I just don't have the desire because I don't think I would be that good at it.
33:17So I don't...
33:18It terrifies me.
33:19There are a lot of...
33:20I see it as a challenge.
33:21They're in here writing a play for you right now.
33:23That's what we're doing.
33:25All four of us.
33:26Do you sing?
33:27No.
33:28OK, and there's another thing.
33:29Yeah.
33:30Two things now.
33:31Two things we've got.
33:32Is she going to sing?
33:33She's going to star in a Broadway play?
33:34I cannot wait.
33:35I'll be in the front row like, yes!
33:37Kimberly!
33:38And Brian, very happy news because...
33:41This is extraordinary.
33:4320 years on, Malcolm in the Middle is coming back.
33:46Oh, yeah, yeah.
33:48Is Jane coming back?
33:50Yep.
33:51Jane's coming back.
33:52Oh, my God!
33:53Have you filmed it already?
33:54Yeah, you shot it already.
33:56In Vancouver, we had a great time.
33:59I've been badgering Linwood Boomer, who was the creator of the show, for about 10 years to say, we should do a reunion show.
34:06We should do a reunion show.
34:07And finally, he relented and came up with a great idea and we got everybody together.
34:12What's so interesting is that Frankie and Chris and all the boys 25 years ago, when we first started this show, are now the age that I was when I started this show.
34:24That's wild.
34:25They have children of their own.
34:27So, I think it's interesting to see what happens.
34:30And is it a one-off or a series?
34:31No, we have four episodes that are coming on Disney Plus.
34:34Oh, my God.
34:35And, yeah, so it's coming on sometime next year, I think.
34:38And does the dad, does the dad end up in the same situation as he always did?
34:42Oh, God.
34:44You know, Graham, I need a new agent because...
34:47For some reason, they have this older guy always naked.
34:54I don't know why.
34:56It's like, for some reason, I'm in tighty-whity underwear or I'm naked.
35:01I mean, it's like, why?
35:04I'm the butt of your joke.
35:06Stop it.
35:07But here's the thing.
35:09It does sort of run in the Cranston family, the not liking clothes thing.
35:14Oh.
35:15Tell us about your Uncle Bob.
35:16Oh.
35:17Well, Bob is indeed my uncle.
35:19Yeah.
35:20Um...
35:21I'd like to say that.
35:26Oh, my God.
35:27Oh, my God.
35:28Bob's your uncle.
35:29We should say late, late uncle.
35:31Oh.
35:32He's my late uncle.
35:33Late uncle.
35:34He's passed on, but he was a nudist.
35:37Oh.
35:38Uh, yeah.
35:39Uncle Bob was a nudist.
35:40And, uh...
35:41That's the first line of a play.
35:43Yeah.
35:44And, uh, you know, he was...
35:46He was in his 90s when he passed away and he was...
35:49Still naked.
35:50Still naked!
35:51Uh, and I used to go visit him, of course, in Florida, where all nudist colonies are.
35:56Of course in Florida.
35:57Listen, I was born in Florida and you've never seen me naked.
35:59You paused for a second.
36:00Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
36:01Um...
36:02Yes.
36:03I think I sent the producers a photograph or two.
36:04Oh, wait a minute.
36:05Oh, no.
36:07Is this really a picture of your Uncle Bob?
36:08This is my real Uncle Bob in a...
36:09I think I sent it somewhere.
36:10You kid, this is the picture of Uncle Bob.
36:11No!
36:12You kid, this is the picture of Uncle Bob.
36:13Wow!
36:14I can only apologize.
36:15I mean...
36:28I see there was Uncle Ben.
36:29I see the resemblance I see the resemblance how dare you I'm sorry it was right there
36:45it's not only Bob it's bits and bobs isn't it
36:47of all the things you've chosen to wear you went with a hat
36:54well he wants to protect him from the sun he wanted to go to the to the lake there and I go visit him
37:03and and I he said I'll bring a chair for you and I said look Bob I'm not gonna go naked I'm just not
37:08gonna do that or sit on the chair and he brought a chair he said take that chair and I brought the
37:14chair and he decided I thought we were gonna sit side by side look at him no no he comes around
37:19and the chair I had sat about this
37:23very good right it's time for music this British rap artist is a mercury prize Ivor Novello and Brit
37:43award winner her sixth studio album Lotus is out now and here performing the latest single lion
37:49featuring obong jr is little sims
37:52you're right hello you're right
38:09how is it
38:12there's a glass of wine for you there are you meeting everyone for the first time um yeah I think we're
38:20meeting for the first time we meet for the first time we met yeah a couple years back did you have a
38:27mask on that thing right forward tie it up and you're good to go yeah apparently it helps your neck
38:38that was a lion and that is off the latest studio album Lotus how beautiful is that out now everybody
38:47it sounds like this was such a labor of love you know you were working in a different way it was it
38:58was hard yeah it was tough it was um I guess born out of frustration and not trusting myself during the
39:07creative process um feeling a real loss of confidence in myself as a creative person which I found really
39:14tough like I didn't I didn't trust my ear and going to the studio to make stuff um just crippled with self
39:20doubt and so lowest for me symbolizes like um you know regardless of what you're going through you
39:26can still rise above the muddy waters and become something extraordinary so that's a beautiful image
39:32gorgeous
39:33and that kind of what's kind of amazing is that that creative doubt you know because you've been doing
39:43this as young as you are yeah for a long time like how how you were a child when you started rapping yeah
39:51oh I started when I was nine wow yeah and you you did your first uh headlining show at the o2 uh was
40:01that last Friday yeah oh I mean what an amazing gig and at the start of the show before you came on you
40:10showed an adorable clip I think are you nine in this clip are you a bit older are you gonna do it
40:15you showed it at the o2 I know but no this is so sweet this is very little sims
40:24what's amazing is that there was there was a stage for a nine-year-old rapper like where was that
40:31yeah that was at a local competition in north london that um my sisters I think my sister's in the
40:38audience today so yeah my family um my family very supportive and they would they would enter me in like um competitions and stuff when I was young so that was one of them
40:51well thank you so much uh little sims it's great to finally have you on the show we've wanted you
40:57forever so uh give it up for that great performance
41:00little sims everyone
41:02that's it for tonight no time for red chairs so please say thank you to the rest of my guests
41:10Brian Cranston
41:14Rachel Zegler
41:17Sarah Paulson
41:20and Kim Kardashian
41:25join me next week for musical guests Manfred and Sonja Hozier comedian Chris McCausland
41:30White Lotus star Amy Lou Wood activist Malala Yousafzai and double Oscar nominee Keira Knightley
41:37I'll see you then get on there baby bye bye
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