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00:00Finger jewellery.
00:01The hardware upgrade?
00:02Yes!
00:03Check it out!
00:04Thank you!
00:05Thank you!
00:06Thank you!
00:07Thank you!
00:08Thank you!
00:09That's pretty good.
00:10Yes!
00:11Yes!
00:12Wow.
00:13Wow.
00:14I just like watch it like it's a TV.
00:18Yeah.
00:19I thought Greta was going to get out one of those things.
00:21I was.
00:22It's my favourite show other than the paper.
00:25Here's a very quick reminder of the engagement announcement that broke the internet.
00:30What is it?
00:3135 million likes or something that photograph got.
00:33Oh my god.
00:34And is that the actual proposal?
00:36It is actually.
00:37So he really crushed it when it came to surprising me because we had actually filmed a podcast
00:45episode.
00:46He has a podcast called New Heights.
00:47Yeah.
00:48And we...
00:49Yeah!
00:50Great!
00:51We've got some Americans.
00:52We've got...
00:53Yes.
00:54Fantastic.
00:55So we filmed the podcast for about three or four hours or whatever.
00:58And meanwhile behind his house he was having the whole back garden turned into this.
01:04Wow!
01:05And one of the things that he put in there very strategically was a wall of hedges that weren't
01:11there before.
01:12And inside the hedges was my tour photographer hiding in bushes that had not previously been
01:18there.
01:19It was...
01:20He went all out.
01:2110 out of 10.
01:22And we were now going, oh Jesus.
01:23I was going to propose this weekend.
01:25What's the point?
01:26For everyone else.
01:27That is amazing.
01:28Take note.
01:29Yeah.
01:30It's really fun that we actually have the exact moment.
01:32Yeah.
01:33Well congratulations to you.
01:34And Cillian Murphy, congratulations to you.
01:36You went and won an Oscar last time.
01:38Oh yeah.
01:42Last year.
01:43Cheers for that.
01:45This is a great core.
01:47You know exactly what I'm like.
01:48Cheers.
01:49It's a heavy core.
01:50Congratulations.
01:51Cheers.
01:52Cheers.
01:53Cheers.
01:54Cheers.
01:55Congratulations.
01:56That's a serious laugh.
01:57It's fantastic.
01:58Was it after that Oscar win that you then met Taylor Swift?
02:03Yeah.
02:04We were at a party.
02:05I had the whole gang and my family and my kids.
02:10I don't think my kids were legally allowed to be there really.
02:13I don't know but they were delightful.
02:15Your sons are the future of our world.
02:18Oh.
02:19They were such great conversationalists.
02:22They were interesting and interested.
02:23Like that's the real accomplishment is if you can...
02:26They're here aren't they?
02:27Yeah.
02:28One of them is here.
02:29Yeah.
02:30Yeah.
02:31There was one clown.
02:32There he is.
02:33Put the camera on him.
02:34Put the camera on him.
02:35Put the camera on him.
02:36Put the camera on him.
02:37Somebody turn the camera.
02:38Where is he?
02:39Oh there's a...
02:40Oh no he's not here.
02:41Maybe he's not here.
02:42They're hiding.
02:43He's right there you can tell.
02:44Oh my god he's so...
02:45He is so brilliant.
02:46Oh my god that's evil.
02:47Oh my god that's evil.
02:48Where are you?
02:49Awesome game.
02:50I love you ladies.
02:52If this was a game show we've all just won a prize.
02:56That was easy.
02:58And Jodie Jodie Smith you're unusual I think.
03:00In that you know that you've met Taylor Swift but you don't...
03:04I don't know why everyone's saying that.
03:05I don't remember where I met her.
03:07Because we were drunk.
03:08Oh okay.
03:09It was at the gold party and I remember that...
03:13No no no.
03:14It was at Madonna's party.
03:15Was it at Madonna's party?
03:16It was at Madonna's party.
03:17I think it was at Beyonce's party.
03:18I was at Beyonce's party but I didn't meet you there.
03:21You weren't at Beyonce's party.
03:22We got a link up.
03:23We got to get the group chat going.
03:24I know.
03:25This is how I know.
03:26Was that Madonna's party?
03:27I've not been invited to any of these parties.
03:30But I remember that the gossip was incredible but I don't remember what it was.
03:36We were having a great night.
03:37Yeah.
03:38It was fantastic.
03:39And Donal.
03:40Hi Glenn.
03:41No no.
03:42Thank you for having us.
03:45I'll bet good money you know Cillian Murphy.
03:52Not really.
03:54No no no.
03:55Yes.
03:56Yeah yeah.
03:57One of my...
03:58My third or fourth filmed job was in a film that Cillian was the lead in and he was...
04:02And I met you when I was like 19 doing my first job and he's always been amazing.
04:06Yeah.
04:07An amazing actor.
04:08An amazing person.
04:09Yeah.
04:10I met Donal when he was doing a Martin McDonough play in the West End and he was like magnetic
04:13back then.
04:14And still is.
04:15Back then.
04:16That was very cool.
04:18You should have seen him then.
04:21We've got lots to talk about tonight but let's start with the big one.
04:27Taylor Swift's new album her twelfth is The Life of a Showgirl.
04:31And this is exciting.
04:34Here it is.
04:37This is the actual album.
04:41And you've gone all out.
04:44Look it folds out.
04:46Yeah.
04:47There's all kinds of stuff in there.
04:48And this is cool.
04:50The album is the same colour as the glittery...
04:53Thank you for noticing.
04:55Are they all like that or is this the collectors?
04:58They're all like that.
04:59It's...
05:00I love creating vinyls that are completely unique inside and just doing different things.
05:06There's also a poem on the inside.
05:08Sort.
05:09Vinyl flap.
05:10And there's different poems on each variant.
05:13And if...
05:15No, I'm not going to tell about that.
05:16But they'll figure that out.
05:18There's something about the poems that's fun.
05:20Oh.
05:21Okay.
05:22Yeah.
05:23Please hold.
05:24Yeah.
05:25No, because I just got this so I haven't read the poem.
05:28Now it's out today and it's kind of...
05:31I mean you were writing these songs while the era's tour was going on.
05:35Yes.
05:36I was writing it during the European leg which was last summer.
05:39And it was actually like the craziest schedule that we had on the European tour.
05:43Like...
05:44So I was more physically exhausted than usual because it was a three and a half hour show.
05:48It's all in heels.
05:50It was...
05:51I was starting to sort of get sick and kind of worn down.
05:54And so I thought I really need something to sort of spark up my imagination and creativity.
05:58Yeah.
05:59And hopefully that will fuel my physical exhaustion.
06:02And it did.
06:03Because I would do like three shows and then I would fly to Sweden and make three songs.
06:08And then do three shows.
06:09Wow.
06:10And it was having that little like secret passion project behind the scenes that was...
06:14That really helped me not ever hit a wall on that tour.
06:18Wow.
06:19So...
06:20We've got a little taste of the first single on the album.
06:23The Fate of Ophelia.
06:25Here it is.
06:48That was so good!
06:50I couldn't have liked it more.
06:51You know what strikes me?
06:52I remember you were on this show before and you were talking about how you write songs that are, you know, kind of in your wheelhouse.
07:06They're easy for you to sing.
07:07Mm-hm.
07:08That song sounds like more of a stretch.
07:11Am I right or wrong?
07:12Yeah.
07:13I think it's a little bit harder to sing.
07:14But I think the wheelhouse is a little bit of a bigger wheelhouse now that the Arrow store happened.
07:18Oh.
07:19Like, I'm a little bit like, I think I could, you know, sort of do anything while running in heel.
07:26I'm just sort of like, it's given me the confidence to write like, higher choruses and jump the octave and do falsetto stuff and like, don't take a break for 35 seconds.
07:34It's like, I'm like, I don't know, like, I'm pretty sure I could do it now that I've done that tour.
07:40So.
07:41Let's talk about some of the other tracks on the album.
07:44Uh, Opalite is such an earworm.
07:47It's proper...
07:49It really is.
07:51My dad is excited somewhere.
07:52That's his favourite.
07:53Oh, great.
07:54So.
07:55It obviously appeals to the dad demographic.
07:56No, it doesn't.
07:57It's also...
07:58Yeah, this is great.
07:59No, it's my fiance's favourite too.
08:01Oh, okay.
08:02Yeah, but...
08:03But Opalite, I think there's a beautiful idea behind the idea of Opalite.
08:08Yeah, it's basically, I become obsessed with certain phrases or words and one of the words on my long list was Opalite because I learned that just like they can do man-made diamonds, you can do man-made opals.
08:20Um, and it's called Opalite.
08:22And I just thought that that was such an interesting metaphor if you take it and you apply it to the fact that often times in life we have to make our own happiness.
08:30It's not just there.
08:32It's not just naturally in place.
08:34We have to make our own happiness and get through life and it says like you had to make your own sunshine but now the sky is Opalite.
08:41And it's just basically like you are happy because you did that on your own.
08:45It's kind of like fake yourself happy kind of thing.
08:47Exactly.
08:48Fake it till you make it.
08:49I do that all the time.
08:50Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:51Seriously.
08:52I believe you've done it really successfully.
08:54Yeah.
08:56Write the book.
09:00And I mentioned the year's tour.
09:01I'm sure lots of people here were at that concert.
09:07It was phenomenal.
09:09It was so, so good.
09:10The thing that was...
09:11And this is not a complaint today.
09:13Wow.
09:14Yeah, I think that was Wembley.
09:15That looks like Wembley.
09:18Three and a half hours.
09:19When did you know?
09:20When did you know?
09:21Was it like opening night when you realised, oh this is three and a half hours?
09:24It was...
09:25It was...
09:26We tried so hard to get it to be shorter than that but...
09:30I just...
09:31I wanted to over deliver.
09:33You know?
09:34I really wanted people to get more than they expected.
09:38It just really felt like something that I had to do because I'm like I know these tickets
09:42are going to be hard to get.
09:43I didn't know how hard they would be to get.
09:45And people are going to like...
09:47I don't know.
09:48People have lives and priorities and if they're going to dedicate any part of those lives to
09:52coming to this big show, to packing stadiums like this, I want to over deliver on production,
09:57over deliver on the length of it, the exertion, the kind of surprises they're seeing.
10:04And I'm really...
10:06I'm endlessly proud of feeling like we achieved that.
10:09Oh, you so did.
10:10You really, really did.
10:13And I'm sure people were there.
10:15I thought...
10:17It was so lovely being in the stadium.
10:19The atmosphere...
10:20You knew that in that stadium, everyone had been like 90,000 people.
10:23Nothing bad was happening.
10:25No one was having a fight.
10:26There was no argy-bargy kicking off.
10:28Everyone was having the loveliest time.
10:30It was the loveliest time.
10:31Yeah.
10:32And I would hear all these stories about people making friends and the whole friendship
10:36bracelet thing was pretty beautiful too, where people would make friendship bracelets
10:39and they would trade them with each other and they'd meet each other.
10:42They are the friendship bracelets.
10:43Yeah.
10:44And it was kind of the sweet thing that the fans did on their own.
10:46We didn't like market this.
10:48This wasn't like a thing that we did.
10:50Or else I would have invested in beads.
10:53So...
10:55Taylor, we'll talk some more as we go on.
10:59But for the moment, just a reminder that the album The Life of a Showgirl is out now.
11:04Right.
11:05Yes.
11:06We're getting it.
11:07We're getting it.
11:08We're getting it.
11:09Killian Murphy.
11:10Killian Murphy brings us an extraordinary new film.
11:13It is called Steve.
11:14It is in select cinemas and available globally on Netflix now.
11:18And to give us a taste, here's a bit of the trailer.
11:21It really is an extraordinary film and brilliant, brilliant performances in it.
11:28And people might know Max Porter.
11:30Yeah.
11:31And this is based on his book Shy.
11:32Yes.
11:33Which apparently you read and thought that isn't filmable.
11:36Yeah.
11:37Max and me are pals and he gave me the proof of the book.
11:41I was very lucky to read it before it came out.
11:43And it's like this beautiful, compassionate piece of work, but it's all inside of Shy's head.
11:48It's like a stream of consciousness from, you know, inside of his character's head.
11:52And I thought like, well, some books shouldn't be adapted.
11:55And then we were like, we'd made two pieces of work together and then we thought we were trying to figure out what next to do next.
12:03And then he had this brilliant idea to kind of spin the story on its axis and to kind of adapt the world of the book rather than the book itself.
12:11So there was this minor character in it, who was Steve, and he kind of began to show the, it all happens over 24 hours.
12:18They began to show like the, you know, what happens over that day through Steve's eyes and then overlay it with Shy's experience.
12:25And who is Steve?
12:26So Steve, I guess, is a very overworked, underpaid, quite broken, trying to do the right thing, headmaster of a kind of reform school in the 90s in Britain.
12:38And it's interesting you decided to keep it in the 90s.
12:41Yeah.
12:42Why did you decide to not bring it to now?
12:44I mean, well, there's a few reasons.
12:47The music was so good then.
12:50And like, Max is obsessed with drum and bass.
12:54And he wrote the book, Listen to Drum and Bass.
12:57And I was 20 in 96, my kids and Aaron, he's like 18 now.
13:02So, and also we could tell a story where we didn't have to deal with smartphones and the internet and all that.
13:07Yeah.
13:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:09And you talk about the music in this film.
13:10Yeah.
13:11The kind of 90s drum and bass.
13:12Was that your, because you took music very seriously.
13:15Was that your music?
13:16It, I love drum and bass.
13:17I always find it really difficult to dance to.
13:19To, to, you know, there's a lot going on.
13:22It's very.
13:23Thrashing.
13:24Yeah.
13:25It's all that polyrhythms in it.
13:26I could never, I was never that guy.
13:27Yeah.
13:28But, but I, I did listen to it and.
13:30Yeah.
13:31But, but when I say you took your music seriously, you were in a band and not just, you know, and often people were in bands.
13:37Did you, you got a five album deal?
13:39What?
13:40Well, yeah, technically we did.
13:42Yeah.
13:43What does that mean?
13:44I mean.
13:45Yeah, we, we were, we were kids and we, we, yeah, we got offered, we got offered this record deal.
13:49Um, I don't know why I'm telling you.
13:51No, no, no, no.
13:52You didn't have a long day.
13:54Yeah.
13:55So enjoy your chart success.
13:56It could have been me.
13:57Five albums is too long a term.
13:58Yeah, I thought it was too long a term.
14:00Yeah, I thought it was too long a term.
14:01So just sign us up young for five albums.
14:03That's it.
14:04That was part of it.
14:05It was, cause I, my brother's in the band and he was only 18, my parents went, no.
14:09Oh, is that, was it, was your parents, cause I got, cause I, cause I, cause normally you would pick, like the first
14:12bit of success you find, you cling onto it, but you turned it down.
14:17Well, it was, they wouldn't let him, they wouldn't let him ruin his life.
14:20So they allowed me to go and potentially, but then we all just disbanded and it didn't happen.
14:25And this was Mr. Green Jeans.
14:26Sons of Mr. Green Jeans.
14:27Sons of Mr. Green Jeans.
14:28Sons of Mr. Green Jeans.
14:29We've got a picture of you here.
14:30Now, is that the bus station in Cork?
14:32Wow.
14:33That's the bus station in Cork City, yeah.
14:35Oh yeah, I thought it was.
14:36I don't know.
14:37That's fantastic.
14:38They're good.
14:39I mean, I don't know, is that building still there anymore?
14:42It is, yeah.
14:43Cork people might not.
14:44It is?
14:45It is, yeah, yeah.
14:46Is that lovely, old, um...
14:47That I don't know.
14:48I haven't been inside for some time.
14:49Don't get the bus anymore.
14:50Who do you think I am?
14:53And actually, talking of you, Greta, you were in a band.
14:58Oh really?
14:59Uh huh.
15:00What?
15:01No, you were.
15:02You took music really seriously.
15:03I did?
15:04Yeah.
15:05Um, so, Killian and Taylor.
15:07I am also a musician.
15:09Well no, we've got an adorable...
15:11I want to know more.
15:12This is, this isn't quite a radio tour, but it's kind of there.
15:16You're very young, and you're doing a gig.
15:18Mm-hmm.
15:19Is this a shopping mall you're in?
15:20Yeah.
15:21Now here you are.
15:22How old are you here?
15:23Oh my God.
15:24Yes!
15:25I think I was 11.
15:28Wow.
15:29And I'm singing, you can see the Vocal Power Institute.
15:32Yes.
15:33I'm, uh, in front of Mervyn's, um, in a, uh, in a mall.
15:37That's incredible.
15:38Is it Christmas time?
15:40Uh, I hope so, for that answer.
15:43But it just, it doesn't look like there's any Christmas decorations or anything.
15:47Yeah, no.
15:48You look like you're dressed in the French Resistance.
15:49Yeah, I know.
15:50Great outfits, great outfits are, they've been happening since for a long time, I see.
15:54I think I was doing a cover of New York, New York, um, which is, it all makes sense.
16:00Amazing.
16:01In L.A.
16:02It's Christmas for only one person.
16:04And there I am.
16:05And what, again, what, what, what happened to that dream?
16:09Uh, what do you mean?
16:10Well...
16:11No, that's, that's just what I'm doing.
16:14Uh, aspiring, I'm here to announce my, uh, my album.
16:18Yeah.
16:19Yeah.
16:20Yeah.
16:21Taylor didn't know that there's some competition.
16:22Yeah.
16:23Uh, it's the past life of a showgirl.
16:24Yeah.
16:25Yeah.
16:26Yeah.
16:27Taylor didn't know that there's some competition.
16:28Yeah.
16:29Uh, it's the past life of a showgirl.
16:30Yeah.
16:31Yeah.
16:32Exactly.
16:33Exactly.
16:34A Christmas album.
16:35Yes.
16:36A Christmas album.
16:37A spectacular event.
16:38Well, look at you now.
16:39Our next movie tonight is a Greta Lee and Jodie Turner-Smith together in the new Disney blockbuster,
16:48Tron Aries.
16:49It's in cinemas from the 10th of October.
16:52That is next Friday.
16:53So, a lot of people love Tron.
16:56Yes.
16:57The previous two Tron films.
16:58Thank God.
16:59So, what's happening in the Tron world now?
17:02Take it away, somebody.
17:03Hey.
17:04Okay, well, normally, this is about, like, humans always going into the grid, right?
17:07You, that iconic first film, 1982.
17:10Some of us weren't born yet.
17:12But, you know, Jeff Bridges goes into the grid.
17:18He goes into the computer, which was so...
17:20And it was also, the 1982 film was the first time that any film had computer-generated images,
17:26which at the time was absolutely, they were like, this is not filmmaking.
17:29Yeah.
17:30They were disqualified from the Oscars that year because it was considered cheating to use computers.
17:33Really?
17:34Yeah.
17:35To use special effects.
17:36So, it really changed the face of our business as well.
17:38So, it's, like, incredibly iconic.
17:40Yeah.
17:41And then the second film was scored by Daft Punk.
17:44Again, just, like, visually so incredible.
17:46And now, we are coming out of the grid into the real world.
17:50Sweet Jesus.
17:51That's what's happening.
17:52Oh, that's amazing.
17:53And by we, I mean me.
17:55No.
17:56Ellis, we've got a clip.
17:57This is the two of you as Eva and Athena.
17:59And, uh, I'm sensing here that you don't get along.
18:03Yes.
18:04Anything could happen.
18:05Anything.
18:06And, uh, Greta, you, uh, you know, you kick ass in this film.
18:15Yeah.
18:16So, you decided you were going to get in shape for this film.
18:18Uh-huh.
18:19Actually, I was reminded of something, um, Taylor, I had heard that there's something you do to prepare for your tours.
18:25Yes.
18:26It's horrible.
18:27Uh, treadmill while singing.
18:28Doing the whole set list while doing, while running on the treadmill.
18:30No way.
18:31Yeah, yeah.
18:32It's one of the worst things I did.
18:33Three and a half hours.
18:34It worked.
18:35But it's incredibly...
18:36It worked.
18:37It didn't work for me.
18:38Oh, my goodness.
18:39I tried that and failed.
18:42Uh, and it's...
18:43I don't think it's a spoiler, but there's a...
18:45I have to run a lot in this movie.
18:48And there's a difference between, you know, an athlete...
18:51I have to play a human person who is running for their life.
18:54So, when you read a script, um, you have to pay attention for things like running for your life, running,
19:02and how many times that appears in the script.
19:04Yeah, yeah.
19:05Because, actually, that's tiring.
19:07It is.
19:09And you can do all the things to train and prepare.
19:12And we certainly did to get into top physical form to do this movie.
19:18Um, and we got all the trainers.
19:20I had, you know, the guy who trains Brad Pitt.
19:24All the Chris's and me.
19:26All the Chris's and you.
19:27Yes.
19:28That's so good.
19:29Um, I...wow.
19:30Um, and, you know, former ex-Navy SEAL.
19:33And then we realised, um, because you were also doing your thing and we looked good.
19:38I'm in my 40s.
19:39I had abs for the first time.
19:42Ever.
19:43Wow.
19:44Nice.
19:46Shout out to Al.
19:47However, we realised none of it would be shown.
19:52We were covered head to toe.
19:55Deeply upsetting.
19:56Yes.
19:57And I, and I even, I mean, all that hard work, can you imagine?
20:00I mean, with the Chris's and...
20:02Sometimes it's okay to object to our women, okay?
20:04Yes.
20:05It genuinely was so upsetting after our first fittings, our, our light suit fittings.
20:12Um, we, I, I even pitched to the director a, a fight scene where, um, our characters could tear each other's clothes off.
20:21And strategically sort of, like, rip Athena's stomach.
20:26Just to show the work.
20:28Three of the abs.
20:29Please.
20:30I didn't go for it, unfortunately.
20:32And this was not about sex, it was strictly vanity.
20:34Yeah.
20:35Yeah.
20:36I am walking so hard.
20:37So hard.
20:38So hard.
20:39Someone see this eight pack.
20:40Yeah.
20:41I know.
20:42But now you know, so at least there's someone.
20:43Yeah.
20:44You got, you got the word out.
20:49You guys know, right?
20:51Yeah.
20:53But Donald, you have been through the physical rigors of big fantasy movies and things,
20:59because you were in, uh, Star Wars, Harry Potter, and Black Mirror.
21:03Now, Black Mirror, you really suffered for your art.
21:05That was crazy.
21:06Yeah.
21:07Thank you, Taylor.
21:08Sorry, that was it now.
21:09Thank you, Taylor.
21:10It was, it was crazy.
21:11I thought about that for months.
21:12So good.
21:13So did I.
21:14It was shocking.
21:15Yeah.
21:16So basically, I, it was, this was Channel 4, Black Mirror.
21:19This is before it went to Netflix and got the big bucks.
21:21Oh.
21:22So this was quite low budget.
21:24And I am in it at the beginning and then my character dies, and then he comes back as
21:27a sort of a replicant of himself, and the decision was made away from me that he should, he appears
21:32for the first time from the bathroom naked, and the decision was made by somebody else that he
21:37should be also hairless from the neck, from the, from the neck down.
21:41And I was like, sci-fi, baby.
21:43I mean, how are we going to go about this?
21:45And they, I just got back to my trailer at lunchtime and there was a chicken salad and
21:48an electric razor.
21:49It was the saddest lunch I've ever had.
21:57Yeah.
21:59And, er, and I probably had an eight pack, but I can't remember.
22:02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:03And, er, now, Killian, you are such a big fan of Tron.
22:07Tell us what you did.
22:08Oh, er, yes, I, I asked to be in the Tron, which one was it?
22:13The one before.
22:14The second, legacy.
22:15The second legacy, yeah.
22:16Yeah.
22:17Yeah.
22:18So I was in that briefly.
22:19I did like one day in it.
22:20Yes.
22:21Wow.
22:22Because I was such a big fan.
22:23I know.
22:24Uncle Dillinger here.
22:25Oh, is that who I am?
22:26You are the, er...
22:27It was a long time ago.
22:29Well done for knowing, right?
22:30I know, well done for knowing.
22:31That's who you are in the family tree, you know?
22:34And, and then, Taylor, am I right, the video for Bad Blood,
22:37the bit is, is a bit of that, a Tron reference?
22:41Yeah, we made a little reference to it with, um,
22:43I did a music video for the song Bad Blood with Joseph Kahn and,
22:46yeah, Jessica Alba.
22:47Yeah.
22:48She had one of the...
22:49We've got a clip, but let's say a little clip.
22:50Oh, I like the motorcycles.
22:51This is a little clip of you doing your Tron.
22:53Oh, cool.
22:54Oh, yeah.
22:55Yeah.
22:56Yeah.
22:57It's giving Athena.
22:58Right?
22:59Look how...
23:00She's so amazing.
23:05Wow.
23:06Hey!
23:09I think they might have based Athena off of this music video.
23:12Because I'm looking at it and I'm like, wait a minute.
23:14I mean, it might have based Athena off of this music video.
23:17It would be an honour.
23:18Yeah, that was one of my favourite directors to work with, Joseph Kahn.
23:21And, uh, Taylor, we should celebrate because, of course,
23:23you now own that video.
23:29Yes, you did.
23:31Yes, you did.
23:33Cheers!
23:35Cheers!
23:36Cheers!
23:37Cheers!
23:38Cheers!
23:39Cheers!
23:40Ah!
23:41Cheers!
23:42OK.
23:43So...
23:44No, no.
23:45Basically, my big, long, lifelong dream came true recently,
23:48which was that I was able to buy all of my music,
23:51all of my music videos.
23:53I didn't know that.
23:54And the artwork.
23:55Which...
23:56I didn't realise that it was also the artwork,
23:58the album covers, all that.
23:59It's everything.
24:00It's so...
24:01It's your entire catalogue.
24:02And thankfully, they weren't...
24:03They didn't split it up first.
24:04Oh, yeah.
24:05They didn't, like, sell it off,
24:06sell the music videos to these people,
24:07the album artwork to these people.
24:09Um, this album to this.
24:10Thankfully, it was all still one acquisition.
24:14Um, but thank you to everyone who came to the Ayers tour.
24:17That's why I was able to, you know, make that happen.
24:21But I love, I love the story because you imagine...
24:23It's so fucking cool.
24:24It's so fucking cool.
24:25I'm sorry.
24:26It's crazy to still talk about it.
24:27It's so cool.
24:28Like, it's so cool.
24:30And you know, like, this is...
24:31You've changed the business by what you've done.
24:34I mean, this is, this is so cool.
24:36It's...
24:38I feel exactly the same way.
24:40You're just like...
24:41But I love that everyone's so obese for you.
24:45I'm so happy for you.
24:46Well, I made it everyone's problem, is the thing.
24:47It's like, I very...
24:48You know, I've, I have this policy where I do not respond to, like, rage-baiting,
24:53people who want to, like, try to, like, provoke me in a multitude of ways.
24:58I don't respond to stuff.
25:00But when some...
25:01This pissed me off so much...
25:03Yes.
25:04That I did say what was going on in my life, which was that all of the music I had made
25:09for my first six albums was sold out from under me.
25:12I had been trying to buy them for a very long time.
25:14Yeah.
25:15I didn't think I should be given them.
25:16I know that they're worth money.
25:17I wanted to buy them.
25:19At a premium.
25:20Was willing to.
25:21Was never given the opportunity to.
25:23And so, I ended up re-recording and re-releasing four of those six albums.
25:28Yes.
25:29And I think that, that was a huge part of why I was able to get them back.
25:32The fans really got behind them and championed this entire cause.
25:36I could not be more grateful.
25:37I still can't believe it happened.
25:39It's, it's the craziest thing ever.
25:40And thank you for bringing that up and for caring about it.
25:43But I like, I like the idea that just, you know, you bought it, you bought it all back
25:50from a big kind of corporate entity.
25:52And you imagine that there would be an army of lawyers talking to another army of lawyers,
25:55but that is not how it went down.
25:56No, I sent in my mom and my brother.
25:58Were you on the phone?
26:03Were you on the phone?
26:04No, no.
26:05I, so basically it was, my music was owned by a company called Shamrock Capital.
26:11We had to try to figure out how to convince them to sell a very lucrative entity to us,
26:18even though it was still making them loads of money.
26:21And so I was like, the only people for the job are the people who have known me my entire life,
26:26who know this entire journey I've been on, who have been supporting me,
26:29and who I work with every day.
26:31They both work with me.
26:32And they are like the smartest people I know.
26:35And also the most compassionate, the kindest,
26:38the people who could tell the story of what we've been through as a family.
26:41So they went in, and they got my music back for me.
26:45Very good.
26:51By the end of the night, Jody and me are going to be gossiping.
26:53You know what I heard about him.
26:56Girl, I heard that same thing but worse.
26:58I think we started there actually before.
27:00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:01I was like, girl.
27:02Listen, we move on to Donald Gleeson's latest work.
27:04It's a very funny new sitcom.
27:05It's called The Paper.
27:07All episodes are streaming on...
27:09Yeah.
27:10Cheers, everybody.
27:13Cheers.
27:14Cheers.
27:15Cheers.
27:16Thank you very much.
27:17Cheers.
27:18Cheers.
27:20All episodes are streaming on Sky and Now.
27:23And now, this show, people have heard about it,
27:25they know that it is related in some way to the American office.
27:29Yes.
27:30Discuss.
27:31Discuss, you said?
27:32Well, tell us.
27:33At length.
27:34Yeah.
27:35Go on.
27:36Basically, it's the documentary crew from the American office.
27:38Yeah.
27:39All these years later go looking for Dunder Mifflin,
27:41which was the paper company that they all worked in.
27:43They kind of run out of road but end up in this place in the Midwest,
27:46a place called Toledo, Ohio.
27:48And they find an old sort of newspaper that's fallen on hard times.
27:53A local newspaper.
27:54And it's really not doing well.
27:56And they're sharing half the floor with a toilet paper company
27:59who are doing way better than them.
28:00And just as they arrive to film this newspaper,
28:04a new editor-in-chief arrives who really wants to make them a great paper
28:09again because they're really bad.
28:11And he wants to make them...
28:13He wants to make them matter.
28:15Listen, we've got a clip.
28:17This is you trying to impress your new bosses.
28:24It's properly, properly funny.
28:25And I heard you talking about, as an actor,
28:28how weird it is to then be in a kind of mockumentary,
28:32that that's hard as an actor.
28:33Oh, yeah.
28:34You spend your life being told not to look straight down the lens
28:36and somebody will scold you if you do that
28:39and they have to scrap the take.
28:41And then all of a sudden you're on a job
28:42and they're encouraging you to look down the lens more
28:45and kind of have a real relationship with the camera,
28:47which is part of what made the UK office great
28:49and made the US office great.
28:51And I think it's part of this.
28:52The people...
28:53Everyone does it in a different way.
28:54It's kind of really cool.
28:55Is it something you had to learn, if you know what I mean?
28:57Oh, yeah. I was terrible at it.
28:58Yeah, yeah.
28:59I wasn't doing it enough.
29:00And Chelsea, who is in it, who's fantastic, plays Mare.
29:03They told her after, like, three episodes,
29:05you need to stop looking at the camera so much.
29:07And they told me you need to look at the camera a lot more.
29:09Yeah.
29:10Can I just say Donald is magnetic in that show.
29:12I love that.
29:13I love that show.
29:14I want to say to them, I'm so happy it's coming back
29:16and his character is, like...
29:17It's so good.
29:18The loveliest, most romanticising character.
29:20He, like, romanticises his life.
29:22And it's really sweet and beautiful.
29:24And also, I don't think that you just sound American,
29:26you seem American.
29:27I know.
29:28Your accent is so good.
29:29Like, you are American.
29:30You have to leave that in the show.
29:32Your numbers are about to skyrocket.
29:34Thank you, Taylor Swift, very, very much.
29:36Can I also say it?
29:38Thank you, Gillian.
29:39Thank you, everybody.
29:40Thank you, Gillian.
29:41Thank you, Gillian.
29:42Thank you, Gillian.
29:43He started it.
29:45Can I also say it's just worth watching
29:46for Donald's dancing alone.
29:47Oh, my God.
29:48Yes, absolutely.
29:49Absolutely.
29:50What?
29:51I'm hoping to get in the Taylor Swift music video.
29:53Yeah.
29:54There you go.
29:55Have you always been able to do the American accent?
29:58Yeah, why is it so good?
29:59So good.
30:00Wow.
30:01Thank you, that's very nice.
30:02Yeah.
30:03I'm terrible at accents normally
30:04and I've worked really hard on that,
30:05so I'm happy it worked really hard.
30:06Yeah.
30:08And this is the first time you've ever lived in L.A.
30:13You moved to L.A. for this.
30:14Yeah, I was over there for, like, four or five months.
30:17I was over there.
30:18Tim Key was also over there as a fantastic actor,
30:20a very funny man.
30:21So, yeah, there's a few of us away from home on that.
30:23It was amazing because you're, like, working in an old,
30:26like, the old studio, like Universal Studios,
30:28and you go in past the fake New York Street and all the rest of it
30:31and then every morning you're going to work in this place
30:33where they've built an office.
30:34It was beautiful.
30:35Yeah.
30:36And the good news is you can stay in L.A.
30:38because, am I right, it's been recommissioned.
30:40Yes, it's season two.
30:41Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:42Thank you very much.
30:43Thank you very much.
30:45Yeah.
30:46Very nice.
30:47Yeah, yeah, we're really happy about it.
30:48Yeah.
30:49So, I think we go back January or February, we go back
30:51and we do another season.
30:52Yeah.
30:53Listen, also returning is Peaky Blinders, Killian.
30:55Oh!
30:58So, there's a movie.
31:00Yeah.
31:01So, is the movie done or...?
31:03Yeah.
31:04So, it's done.
31:05Yes.
31:06And, now, here's the thing.
31:07Peaky Blinders were so successful that that haircut,
31:09Tommy's haircut in the early series, it kind of took off.
31:12Yeah.
31:13It became, like, you know, it became a thing.
31:14Yeah.
31:15I mean, it's so disgusting, really.
31:18But it's everywhere because of you.
31:20Yeah, but, you know, the story behind that is
31:22it's to prevent lice infestation.
31:25Wait, why?
31:26How?
31:27Because if you have no hair, the lice can't...
31:29But there's still all that up on top.
31:30But they know what that is up there.
31:32But maybe they don't know how to travel.
31:33Well, like, you get, like, a 60% better chance
31:36of not getting them, I guess.
31:37Yeah.
31:38Dr. Donal, I mean, yeah.
31:39I'm in my trailer just doing the thing.
31:41Yeah, Donal.
31:42That's amazing.
31:43And when is the movie going to be in the world?
31:46Next year.
31:47Next year.
31:48OK.
31:49All right.
31:51And because you're here, Taylor, I've got to ask you,
31:54is next year the wedding year?
31:56Is that when it's happening?
31:57Oh, you'll know.
32:00So, you're going big.
32:02I just mean that I was going to invite you to it.
32:05I'm going to invite you to it.
32:06I'm going to invite you to it.
32:07I'm going to invite you to it.
32:08I'm going to invite you to it.
32:09If you're inviting me, it's very big.
32:13It's huge.
32:14I think I can see Taylor.
32:19Well, I'm sure it'll be a fabulous day.
32:24Are you in the middle of planning it all now?
32:26No, I just am doing the album thing now, which is a big thing.
32:30Yes.
32:31And then I think the wedding is what happens after that in the scheme of the planning.
32:37OK.
32:38But I'm really, you know, I'm so excited about it.
32:41I'm just like, I know it's going to be fun to plan because I think the only stressful
32:47weddings are the ones where you have a small amount and people are on the bubble.
32:51Yeah.
32:52Right?
32:53Yes.
32:54And you have to evaluate or assess your relationship with them.
32:57Yeah.
32:58To see if they should be there.
32:59Yeah.
33:00I'm not going to do that.
33:01OK.
33:02OK.
33:03This is why you're invited.
33:04Anyone I've ever talked to.
33:05Thanks, Greta.
33:06Yeah.
33:07It's going to be great.
33:08There's no bubble.
33:09You'll be there.
33:10I'll take it.
33:11No, it's like, oh, we had to have hung out eight times.
33:14Yeah, yeah.
33:15It's like you're on the bubble.
33:16Yeah.
33:17We've hung out five times.
33:18We don't have to think about it.
33:19I'm on the bubble.
33:20It's going to be fun.
33:21I shouldn't have said any of that.
33:23Well, listen, seriously, we just wish you all the best.
33:27Thank you so much.
33:28And have a lovely, lovely day.
33:29Thanks.
33:33It's exciting.
33:34It's exciting.
33:35Right.
33:36It is time for music.
33:38This great Scott has had six UK number one singles,
33:42including his latest release, Survive,
33:44which became the fastest selling single in the UK this year.
33:48Here performing his new single, Something in the Heavens,
33:51it is Lewis Capaldi.
33:53Come on over to you.
33:55Lewis Capaldi, everybody.
33:58Welcome back to the world.
33:59Hello.
34:00Nice to see you.
34:01It's good to be back.
34:02Lovely.
34:03Lovely.
34:04I was so happy I fell down.
34:05Yeah, lovely.
34:06Good to fucking heal it.
34:07Lewis Capaldi, welcome back to the world.
34:08Hello.
34:09Nice to see you.
34:10Fuck.
34:11It's good to be back.
34:12Lovely to have you back.
34:13You know, you know Donald, don't you?
34:14We met, we met, I stood behind you.
34:15I stood in front of you.
34:16I admired your back.
34:17For a Fontaine's DC gig.
34:18Yeah, that's right.
34:19In New York.
34:20I kept on asking if you and your friends wanted to stay in front of you.
34:21I was so happy.
34:22I was so happy.
34:23I was so happy.
34:24I was so happy.
34:25I was so happy.
34:26I was so happy.
34:27I was so happy.
34:28I was so happy.
34:29I was so happy.
34:30I was so happy.
34:31You, now you know Donald, don't you?
34:35We met, I stood behind you.
34:37I stood in front of you.
34:38And I admired your back.
34:40For a Fontaine's DC gig.
34:42Yeah, that's right.
34:43In New York.
34:44I kept on asking if you and your friends wanted to stand in front of us.
34:47You're the most conscientious tall man I've ever met in my life.
34:49Thank you very much.
34:50Yeah, that was lovely.
34:51Good times.
34:52And do you know anyone else on the couch?
34:54I've met Taylor before, and I've met you before Jodie, obviously, as well.
34:58On this very so far.
34:59Oh, OK.
35:00I should have known that.
35:01Don't you remember?
35:02LAUGHTER
35:03Family pregnant.
35:04Yeah, and I swore, and I apologised to your baby bump.
35:07You did.
35:08I've often wondered if your child's first word was, I don't know, cunt.
35:12LAUGHTER
35:13I wondered if it would be that too.
35:16Thankfully it was Mama.
35:18LAUGHTER
35:19LAUGHTER
35:21Leave it.
35:25The song is beautiful.
35:29Oh, thank you very much.
35:30It's stunning.
35:31It's so gorgeous.
35:32You're like an angel.
35:34Stop it.
35:35I've got the single here, Something in the Heavens, but it's from an upcoming EP.
35:38Yeah, I was told I wasn't allowed to talk about it.
35:41Oh.
35:42What?
35:43By who?
35:44Fuck it.
35:45Yeah, it's coming out.
35:46LAUGHTER
35:47The EP is coming out.
35:49I can tell you, it's called Survive, and it's coming out later in the year.
35:54Fantastic.
35:55Yeah, thank you very much.
35:56There's two songs.
35:57He's singing like a canary.
35:58Yeah.
35:59We all are tonight.
36:00Yeah.
36:01Tell me about your EP.
36:02Yeah, yeah.
36:03Two more songs on it.
36:05Listen.
36:06It's...
36:07It's...
36:08It's...
36:09Songs.
36:10LAUGHTER
36:11I mean, I'm excited about it.
36:13Yeah.
36:14Well, it was so gorgeous when that triumphant return to Glastonbury,
36:17which just made everyone so happy.
36:19CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
36:21You've got the same outfit on.
36:22Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:23The identical outfit.
36:24You've very graciously pointed out that I'm wearing the exact same fucking thing.
36:28LAUGHTER
36:29Take it in this.
36:30If it's not broke, I don't think so.
36:31If it looks good, yeah.
36:32All right.
36:33If it looks OK, let's wear it again.
36:34LAUGHTER
36:35And I hope you don't mind me bringing this up, because I think people should know this.
36:36You took...
36:37Between Glastonbury's, it was 734 days off.
36:38Yeah.
36:39And you took...
36:40And I hope you don't mind me bringing this up, because I think people should know this.
36:42You took...
36:43Between Glastonbury's, it was 734 days off.
36:44Yeah.
36:45And you took...
36:46Between Glastonbury's, it was 734 days off.
36:47Yeah.
36:48And you did an amazing thing.
36:49Tell the people what you did.
36:50We...
36:51Yes.
36:52We partnered with BetterHelp.
36:53They'll be glad that I'm saying their name on this programme.
36:54And we...
36:55Yeah, we partnered with BetterHelp and we gave...
36:56To give out 730,000 hours of free therapy to people.
36:57Wow.
36:58Isn't it amazing?
36:59Yeah.
37:00Very...
37:01It's such an amazing thing to have done.
37:02Yeah.
37:04Yeah.
37:05Yeah.
37:06There's a lot.
37:07There's a lot.
37:08There's a lot.
37:09There's a lot.
37:10There's a lot.
37:11There's a lot.
37:12There's a lot.
37:13There's a lot.
37:14There's a lot.
37:15There's a lot.
37:16There's a lot.
37:17There's a lot.
37:18There's a lot.
37:19Mentally ill people out there, Graham, and they need my help.
37:21But it's serious.
37:22That's a serious amount of time.
37:23Yeah.
37:24Yes.
37:25And listen, I hope people use it.
37:27And therapy's been a big thing for me and getting like...
37:30You know, getting back to this position and getting back to a place
37:32where I can feel comfortable enough to come and do this stuff,
37:35and obviously it's not accessible and some people, you know,
37:38different people's situations.
37:40So we want to try and give, you know, just give back to the people, you know?
37:45No, seriously, no, I know you're...
37:47Well done.
37:49APPLAUSE
37:50You should also...
37:52Talking of people, you've got to see a lot of them,
37:54cos you've got your tour coming up.
37:57Yeah, yeah.
37:58You've got a lot of it sold out, and the ones that aren't are all new dates.
38:01Yes, well, this is... I'm glad you said that.
38:03You can see it says sold out, sold out, sold out, new date, new date, new date.
38:06If you notice, there's, like, space next to Leeds.
38:09And I would like to use this moment if I can speak from the heart, Killian.
38:13Yeah.
38:15Can I look into the camera and speak to the people at Leeds?
38:18Yeah, one of those over there, yeah.
38:19Which one? Which one? Here.
38:20There you go, you're in it, you're in it, you're in it.
38:22Leeds, what the fuck are you playing?
38:24LAUGHTER
38:30Honestly, the tickets...
38:32The tickets are not selling well at all.
38:36LAUGHTER
38:37So, if you're in Leeds, just buy it for someone you don't like.
38:40I don't know.
38:41LAUGHTER
38:42Yeah, it's...
38:44It's all going really well, except from that pocket of the country
38:47which seems to hate my fucking guts.
38:49LAUGHTER
38:50Well, we don't. We're very happy to have you back.
38:52Thank you so much for that gorgeous performance.
38:54Lewis Cabaldi!
38:55CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
38:57That is it for tonight. No time for red chairs ever played,
39:01so please thank the rest of my guests.
39:03Donald Gleeson!
39:04CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
39:06Jodie Turner-Smith!
39:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
39:08Brenna Lee!
39:10CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
39:11Killian Murphy!
39:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
39:14And Taylor Swift!
39:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
39:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
39:18Do join the next week with music from Robbie Williams,
39:21pop legend Gloria Estefan, acting greats Benedict Cumberbatch and Colin Farrell,
39:25and Oscar winner Julia Roberts.
39:27I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye!
39:28CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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