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00:00Actually, and actually welcome to the room Tessa because you haven't been in this studio before you know
00:04We were on zoom on the dreaded zoom. This is better right much. Yeah, yeah free drink
00:12Bruce is that you walked on there to born to run this year?
00:16I think it's that's not 50 years old. I was 10 when I recorded it. So yeah
00:20Yeah, that's incredible isn't it? Yeah, I was born to walk
00:25And uh jeremy allen white i've just got to say we all love you in the bear you know that
00:33And the thing is we have had lots of actors on the show talking about playing real people
00:38I don't think they've ever been on sat next to the real person
00:41Yeah, yeah, this is kind of unprecedented
00:44So how involved was bruce during the filming?
00:47I mean bruce bruce was there we spent a little bit of time before we got started shooting
00:52We met here actually in london for the first time at wembley
00:55I met him before a show and and we got together around new jersey right before filming and then and then bruce was around
01:01You know on set with us
01:04I always feel a little guilty about that. You know, I go like okay
01:08Not only does this fella have to play me
01:11He has to play me while my stupid ass is sitting in the chair
01:15Watch watching himself. Oh, that's awful
01:21Have you apologized?
01:24But he was incredibly tolerant of me and i'm always thankful he was so generous of me of me being there
01:29And i and i had a great time and actually tessa elmer you have a really strong connection to bruce
01:35Yes deeply my dad went on tour with bruce for a while during the secret session for a year
01:40You and your papa played together and there you are there we went all around the world together
01:46Mark anthony and he's a fabulous musician and a great guy and i came to one of your shows
01:52Which was amazing oh really yeah because you know growing up with a musician for father
01:56I would always go to shows with him and i i don't even know the early ones i went to when i was tiny
02:01but i would have like
02:02You know cotton in my ears and my dad would put me on his shoulders and then we went to your show together
02:07And i kid you not the guy next to me said do you want to get on my shoulder so you can see
02:11Because i couldn't see anything your fans are so incredible
02:15And then i met you backstage very little yeah i almost asked for your shirt but i decided not to
02:23And jennifer there's a slight link between you and bruce because was it when you were filming mother yes
02:30Tell us um when i was filming mother and i would have to do really intense scenes
02:35I listened to a song of yours that would kind of bring me out of the funk really yeah
02:40Can you guess which song it was bruce
02:43Not born to run that would bring you out of the funk yeah made me really happy it's not in the brain
02:50One could even say jolly
02:53Uh waiting on a sunny day no no
02:59Shall i put you out of your misery yes it was this
03:05Oh
03:12Look how happy jennifer is i try to be sad that always works
03:19Listen we uh start tonight with our big two-hander jeremy allen white is bruce springsteen in springsteen delivery me from nowhere
03:28it's in cinemas from the 24th of october and uh here's some of the trailer to get us in the mood
03:35And listen we should tell people that this isn't uh a biopic from
03:43No boy to man it focuses on this really specific moment in your life which of you wants to tell us about that
03:52It's me you yeah it's your yeah
03:54It only focuses on about a year and a half or two years in my life when i was making this record nebraska
04:04And going through a variety of different personal struggles at the time
04:09And uh so it's it's it's nice it's it's not a regular music it's not really a musical biopic almost at all it's really a
04:18Character-driven drama with music you know and i'm right in thinking these struggles that are portrayed in the film
04:24We didn't really know about them like they weren't widely known well
04:28I wasn't disseminating that i was losing my mind at the time yeah
04:34So i tried to keep it's a big thing to know
04:37You know so no no i it was went pretty unknown you know
04:41And and jeremy you know you sing these songs i do but you're a non
04:47Singer so how well i suppose how daunting but also how the hell do you prepare from a standing start to
04:56Do that yeah it was tough i mean i've been a long time admirer of
05:01Of bruce's but it took me some time to sort of accept because i remember telling scott our director
05:07You know you're sure you don't want to cast someone who already knows how to sing and play the guitar that might be easier for you guys
05:13um
05:14But i got together with like really talented people i mean this guy eric vitro who uh
05:19Yes yes he works with a lot of singers uh he works with sabrina carpenter and ariana grande and rosalia and um
05:27But also actors helps a lot of actors yeah like like austin butler and timothy chalamet get ready for
05:32Sort of these films and and so i worked with him uh about
05:38Six times a week for six months to sound
05:43Something like bruce yeah and was that kind of rasp in your voice already
05:47um
05:48I think you get that rasp or i got that rasp from sort of singing songs over and over and over
05:56um
05:57It kind of came uh it came naturally i'd have to get warmed up sing very hard and then i could kind of find that that voice
06:04Yeah, but but he does a very
06:06A very telling thing he he he sings the song
06:11jeremy's performance is not imitative in any way
06:15You know when he's singing the songs he's he's leaning into the music's internal life
06:20And uh he captures the most important thing about about performing a piece of music
06:26And not only does he do that in the in the songs but he also does it in his performance
06:30And it just feels very very real and very very authentic you know
06:34It really is a extraordinary performance and we're just going to watch a bit of your performance performance
06:38You on stage as bruce this is you uh performing born to run this is jeremy here we go
06:45Amazing
06:47Like it's like you're channeling him it's amazing
06:51And like what strikes me is you must have had so much going on in your head
06:58Doing that because there's a real audience you're thinking the movements the voice of everything
07:02Yeah, yeah, I mean it was it was daunting I remember those days being particularly sort of uh sort of scary
07:09Um, you know, but but what's nice about those environments is you know everything else is very real. I was on stage with real musicians
07:17Uh, uh, the audience was really excited to see the actual bruce springsteen who was there that day
07:24And uh, you know everything was real except for me. I was really the only pretender but once everything gets going
07:30Um, yeah, it's really easy to I guess um get lost but the build-up. Yeah mind is racing trouble trouble
07:37Uh, yes, yeah, and was it we're watching things like that being filmed odder than watching the more intimate scenes
07:45I'm going to be stealing some of those moves on my next door
07:49That's how well he did
07:49You know extraordinary and uh did you always intend to be there as much as that?
07:54Uh first part of the film when they first started we were touring in canada so I wasn't there but scott the director said gee
08:00You know, I'd like you to come, you know, so so I went but uh
08:05uh, I I was always I always had a little bit of like, yeah, I don't know, you know, but uh
08:11He was very kind about it. I appreciate it
08:13I think I think in the beginning in that first week when you're on any job whatever it is, you know
08:17You're kind of finding your footing and you're you're a little bit nervous and and I think in that first week
08:22I didn't know what to expect and you know
08:24You're kind of trying to like strum up some delusion and imagination and you know you you see the man you're playing in the corner
08:31It gets difficult to kind of fall into that uh delusion but
08:35But then he showed up so frequently it did it became uh it became normal
08:39Um, and then you know, I think like in his presence there was a a lot of permission for me and for scott our director and
08:46And uh, you know, he was a great support and uh did bruce give you notes and things no, I think he knows that would have broken me
08:54Um, that would have been unsafe because you you've both played real people did you get feedback from the real people?
09:01Um, no, I played joy mangano in the miracle mall joy, yeah, yeah inventor of the miracle map
09:08But no, I mean I I had like drinks with her occasionally, but I don't I think if she had come on set I would cry
09:15Yeah, I played diane nash and she didn't give me any tips or anything
09:20But she had to approve my casting
09:23So that felt really sweet that she said yeah
09:26Oh, I thought you were gonna say bitchy
09:30No
09:31I mean that too
09:32Say it
09:34She was like she'll do
09:35Actually, that's a good point the casting did you have to approve jeremy?
09:40No, no, I but all I said when when scott came down to my house the first day we spoke
09:45Uh, I'd seen jeremy on the bear I loved his performance I saw how the camera read his interior
09:54Life and how it read and how
09:57What a psychological actor he was and he was always he was the first guy I mentioned and he was there was there was no number two
10:06He was my first choice. I still can't believe
10:08Yeah, I feel very fortunate that he that he took the job and uh jeremy not a singer
10:16He's not a singer. Well, he is now, but uh, but a proper dancer
10:21Yes, I've been told yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah child you studied and it's true
10:26Yeah, yeah, I started around eight years old
10:29I had a lot of energy as a kid and my parents kind of threw me into anything and everything
10:34A lot of sports that wasn't enough we did ballet tap and jazz for a very very long time until I was like 12 or 13
10:43I guess something like that and you still do the tap right
10:46uh
10:47No, I thought
10:49I thought in between takes you would do tap
10:51Yes, there is a sort of nervous tick
10:53I've found that people on set have told me I have which is kind of like during the setup in between
10:58Shots and stuff. I'll kind of do a shuffle ball change in place as a almost like a meditative sort of thing
11:07I didn't realize I did it until I was told by um by castmates. Jennifer looks like she's never going to work with jeremy allen white
11:15No, I just I I just didn't expect it
11:20I'm like I didn't know that that was really you singing as I'm like wow and then like kickball change
11:25I'm just like wow like there's just all sorts of different directions
11:29But jenna when you were young I love your parents for those parents. They were so encouraged
11:33I really the infer I hate the information that you get
11:39Your mother your mother particularly my mom thought I could do anything
11:42She was just like you are so pretty and you can sing
11:46And so I was like, okay, and so I sang in front of my school and I can't I cannot sing
11:50There's like a video of it. It's really really bad. And weirdly it's it's almost it's also a christmas song. It's also a christmas song
11:58Yeah, you're obsessed with christmas
12:02So were you finding out in real time that you couldn't sing yeah
12:08I kind of I had it I had an inkling at rehearsals because I remember just like not knowing like what key and I was just like
12:16uh
12:21Lady kind of go like
12:25People started laughing and I and that was when I was kind of like I wonder if I'm not as good as my mom
12:32But it didn't stop me from going in front of the whole school
12:35Well tessa you are a musician like your dad
12:38You sing and in creed as bianca we saw you sing but apparently you were hanging out with musicians
12:44And that did not end well
12:48Well no, I mean so I grew up around musicians a lot and so I've sort of come from a musical family
12:55But I'm not a trained musician at all but when we were making these creed
12:59I was like I really want to immerse myself in the musician's life and
13:02Ludwig Gorison and I locked ourselves in a studio for two weeks to make this original music which was so fun
13:07And mostly we just like ate noodles and you know tried to make up these songs
13:12But also we invite these amazing musicians in and some of them like to like smoke a little pot
13:17So one day I was like well, I should I'm gonna do that because now I'm a musician
13:21It was your first and only time no
13:25But it was like
13:27The stoniest I've ever been in my entire life just so stoned like I remember
13:35Just being there on the couch and then being like okay, let's lay down some vocals and being like I don't know how to move
13:40Did you think everybody was mad at you?
13:42Yeah, everyone was mad. I was mad at myself. I had to go outside to like be like like okay
13:48I get back in there you can do it and then I did and we got through and it was fine
13:51But I was like okay, I'm never gonna smoke pot again when I have to perform lesson learnt. Yes
13:57I used to do a thing where I'd go out in the middle of the concert
14:02Somebody would hand me a full beer and I'd chug the beer
14:06It was always okay. I went to Germany
14:12Beer is very strong in Germany and somebody handed me a huge
14:18a huge cup of beer and I
14:20You know, okay, I'm gonna get it down
14:22chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug chug
14:25I get the whole thing down and about 30 seconds later. I realized I'm stoned out of my fucking
14:34Was it like ecstasy?
14:35Yeah, I got on stage and I said I sound so fucking good right now
14:40I can't believe this.
14:45These people are so lucky.
14:47And very quickly, Bruce, I just wonder,
14:51having been through this process of making the film with Jeremy,
14:55like, when you go to perform now,
14:57do you think it's going to make you kind of self-conscious?
15:00Where you go, oh, I'm doing that thing with my shoulders now,
15:02or I'm doing that thing, you know?
15:03Well, the funny thing was,
15:05he did pick up a lot of my onstage mannerisms,
15:08so that does make me think, oh, yeah, I do do that, you know?
15:13So I think I'll be all right.
15:15I think you'll be all right.
15:16Yeah, we'll get back into the swing of it.
15:18Just a reminder, you can see Jeremy Allen White as Bruce
15:21in Springsteen, Delivery From Nowhere,
15:23and that's from next Friday.
15:25OK.
15:31Meanwhile, Jennifer Lawrence brings us a powerful drama.
15:34It's called Die My Love.
15:36It's in cinemas from the 7th of November.
15:39And this is really your baby.
15:42I mean, it's your production company made it.
15:44But the project was brought to you by a very posh person.
15:48Well, I don't know if you've ever heard of this filmmaker,
15:51Martin Scorsese.
15:53I think who?
15:55He read the book in his book club.
15:59That's adorable, isn't it?
16:00Who else is in his book club?
16:01I don't know.
16:02Oh, man, we've got to figure that out.
16:03I know.
16:04And, like, I could ask.
16:05Yeah, you should ask.
16:06I just don't want to bother him.
16:08But, yeah, and he was like,
16:10I think that you should play this character.
16:11And then when I read the book, it was like, it was...
16:13I had a hard time kind of imagining it as a movie,
16:15because it's all, like, inside her head.
16:17But I wasn't, like, going to go back to Marty and be like,
16:19I don't know.
16:20I think it's a bad idea.
16:21And it's...
16:22You and Robert Pattinson, and you play a young couple.
16:25Yeah.
16:26But then a baby enters your life.
16:28Yes.
16:29A baby...
16:30We have a big move.
16:31A baby enters our life.
16:34We start going through some marital, you know, troubles,
16:39and I'm getting a little cuckoo in the face-ah.
16:43Um...
16:45That's it.
16:46Yeah.
16:47You and Robert are so good in this film.
16:51Before we talk about it tomorrow, let's look at a clip.
16:53Uh, this is you and Robert Pattinson, uh,
16:56well, essentially not getting on.
17:03I love that scene.
17:04All that rage trying not to wake a baby.
17:06Yeah.
17:07There were so many moments like that,
17:09because, like, you read the script and it's like,
17:11oh, fighting, you know, and they have a baby and everything.
17:13But Rob and I are both parents.
17:14I mean, he had a new baby, like a newborn baby.
17:17And so we were like...
17:18There was a scene where we were in the car
17:20and we were supposed to be screaming at each other
17:21and the baby was supposed to be in the car.
17:22And then we were like, we can't...
17:24We will traumatize this child.
17:27And so there were lots of...
17:29I don't know.
17:30The babies ended up having a great time,
17:33Victoria and Kennedy.
17:34And they were very well taken care of.
17:37And I just wondered, you know, you and Robert Pattinson,
17:41in an odd way, you share this kind of almost unique experience
17:47where you both found enormous early fame in big franchise movies,
17:52him and Twilight Younger Games.
17:54And I wondered, did that bond you in any way?
17:56Or was it kind of a, oh, that's a thing that happened back then?
17:59Not really.
18:00I think because, like, what else?
18:01I mean, if you think I didn't ask him about Donald Trump
18:03tweeting about the breakup with Kristen, obviously.
18:06Oh, my God.
18:07Yes!
18:08Yes!
18:09I don't remember that at all.
18:10It was like three days after the photos came out with her,
18:13with, you know, whatever.
18:15Young people make mistakes.
18:16And Donald Trump was like, he better leave her!
18:20He can do better than her!
18:22Like, a huge rant.
18:23That's like a different kind of, I made it, you know?
18:25Yeah.
18:26Yeah.
18:27I mean, he wasn't president.
18:28Yeah.
18:29Right.
18:30Yeah.
18:31We could sleep at night.
18:32But...
18:33Anyway, I brought that up.
18:34But, um...
18:36No, that wasn't, we, I think we bonded mostly, this is so boring,
18:38but, like, over our kids.
18:40Because, like, when you have babies, like, you just want to show
18:42people, like, videos and pictures and, you know...
18:45But I know you had him over.
18:47Uh...
18:48Okay.
18:49Did you have him over for dinner?
18:50So...
18:51Not exactly, so I had my girlfriends over.
18:53We were in our pajamas.
18:54We were watching Little Women.
18:55It was December.
18:57Um, so we were watching both versions.
18:58Right around Christmas time.
18:59Yes.
19:00Um, and then, and he was like, hey, I just wrapped something,
19:02like, a block away from you.
19:04And I was like, oh my God, because Rob is one of the girls.
19:07Like, he wants to gossip.
19:08He wants to, like, he is just one of the gals.
19:11And so I was like, come over.
19:12But he's also, like, my daughter.
19:15Like, he's very...
19:17He's a great father.
19:18He's a professional.
19:19He shows up on time.
19:20But, like, I wouldn't, like, trust that, like,
19:22he, like, put a coat on.
19:24Or, like, you know, like, he's not gonna, like, eat on time.
19:27Or something.
19:28He, like, brings out a very, like, maternal.
19:30So he comes in and I give him a hug.
19:32And he's like, you have any food?
19:34I'm so hungry.
19:36And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:37Come in, come in.
19:38And then he goes to the bathroom.
19:39And I do have food.
19:40But it's in the trash.
19:42And so while he was in the bathroom,
19:44I was just, like, pulling food out of my garbage can.
19:47And my girlfriends were like...
19:50And I'm like...
19:51And then so he eats it.
19:53And we're all just kind of, like,
19:55watching him eat this trash.
19:58And then when he was finished,
20:00he was like, I'm still hungry.
20:02There's no mole.
20:03And I'm like, well, there is.
20:04But it's in the garbage.
20:05And he was like...
20:06I don't mind.
20:07And then he was like,
20:08I'll get out of the trash and he kept eating it.
20:12He sounds like the ideal house guest.
20:14Yeah, yeah.
20:15And this film, this is made by your production company.
20:20Yes.
20:21And this is you kind of taking control of being,
20:24you know, choosing your projects carefully.
20:26Because was there a time where you kind of wanted to step away?
20:30You wanted to kind of take the heat off being Jennifer Lawrence?
20:33Yeah, I made Covid happen.
20:34OK.
20:38That'll do it.
20:39Yeah, I was just like, I want to take a break.
20:40And it was like, the world is shutting down.
20:42Yeah, I took a little time.
20:46I mean, I was like working all my 20s, you know?
20:48So then I was like, what's out here?
20:50Yeah.
20:51What's going on?
20:52And did you worry about, you know,
20:54maybe you wouldn't be able to get back into it or...?
20:57I think I was like, I think I was at peace with that possibility
21:01of happening.
21:02I was like, you know, this is a lot.
21:06I think I would have been fine.
21:08Well, I mean, no.
21:09I mean, I would be really upset, but I don't know.
21:11No, because Jeremy, obviously because of the bear,
21:13you're famous everywhere.
21:14But in Chicago, you're like, apparently unbelievably famous
21:18in Chicago.
21:19Extra famous in Chicago.
21:20Yeah.
21:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:22Yeah, um, yes.
21:23And is it fun?
21:26Is it fun?
21:27Um, uh, yeah, I mean, I can get like a dinner reservation
21:31and that kind of stuff is really nice.
21:33And, uh, but I do have, I mean, after the first season
21:38was as successful as it was, they gave me a security guard,
21:43this wonderful man, Moody.
21:45Um, and Moody follows me around, uh, on set everywhere.
21:49And, um, there was one particular evening.
21:51We were shooting on location, uh, in Chicago.
21:54And we were very near a, um, or very near a school, a college.
21:59And there was kind of like a group of mostly very small,
22:02young women that were, like, excited to see everybody there.
22:06You.
22:07No, no, no, no.
22:08I was there.
22:09And, um, and they were kind of barricaded very, very far away
22:13from where we were shooting.
22:15And I kind of get out of the van and I'm approaching
22:18and they all kind of shout out.
22:20Again, they're maybe 20 yards away.
22:23They start shouting and Moody, this very large man,
22:27lifts me in the air by my hips,
22:30parries me up the stairs,
22:32shoves me in the door as if these young women were gonna,
22:35you know, really, really get me.
22:38And I remember telling him, please do not ever, ever.
22:43Grab me by the hips again.
22:45So, so insane.
22:47And he felt very bad.
22:48I love you, Moody.
22:49Uh, if you're, if you're seeing this, it's all, it's all okay.
22:52But it was a wild, wild thing that he did.
22:54Yeah.
22:55Not good.
22:56I have the same problem except everyone is 70
22:58and you don't have to worry about it.
23:00And now, Tessa, you're another actor who, you've got a production company now.
23:10You're kind of taking control of your career.
23:12What's your production company called?
23:13It's called Viva Mod.
23:15Oh, that's beautiful.
23:16It's a good name.
23:17It's like this spirit of, uh, a character called Mod from a movie that I love called Herald and Mod.
23:22Oh, yeah.
23:23Well, listen, the first project from Tessa's production company, uh, to hit the screens is Hedda.
23:27It's available to watch globally on Prime Video starting on the 29th of October.
23:32Uh, so obviously, the, the source material for this is Hedda Gobbler.
23:36Yeah.
23:37But this is, uh, how are you describing it?
23:39It's more than an adaptation, isn't it?
23:41It's sort of a reimagining.
23:42I mean, we tried to capture the spirit of the play, but it's set in 1950s in the UK in an English country house.
23:48It sort of feels like part murder mystery in a way.
23:51And Nia DaCosta, who's the brilliant director, writer, has sort of updated the text in some interesting ways.
23:57One of the iconic characters from the piece has been gender swapped.
24:00So it feels, yeah, different than the original.
24:04But hopefully for people that like it, it satisfies that too.
24:07All right.
24:08Well, here's a clip just to give us a taste of the feel of the whole thing.
24:20What did you say?
24:21I said her cheekbones are fucked up.
24:25In a beautiful way.
24:27Yeah.
24:28Now, here's the thing.
24:29Everyone's very familiar with the story of Hedda Gobbler,
24:32but just a little refresher for the people.
24:35What is Hedda Gobbler about?
24:37The original piece is about a woman named Hedda.
24:40Gabbler.
24:41Or gobbler, depending on how you want to say it.
24:43And she is in a marriage that she isn't too happy with.
24:47And someone from her past comes along and kind of unravels her night.
24:51In our rendition, there's...
24:53So in the original piece, there's a party that happens off stage.
24:56In our rendition, we brought everything to the party.
25:01So the film is a big party.
25:03And also it is significantly gayer and kinkier than Ibsen's original.
25:09Yes.
25:10Stupid Henrik.
25:11And here's the thing, though.
25:13English accent, very good.
25:14Thanks very much.
25:15And really, such a specific English accent.
25:17Yeah.
25:18Where...
25:19How did you find it, if you know what I mean?
25:20We like the idea of it being sort of like...
25:22I want...
25:23I really like, like, very close to the Queen's English.
25:26I just think it's so fantastic.
25:28And I like people that are, like, so posh that they just don't even move their mouths at all.
25:33You know?
25:34Like, I really love that.
25:35We couldn't go quite there, but it's sort of inspired by a lot of voices during that time.
25:39And, of course, we have heard your English accent before as Valkyrie in Thor.
25:44But that was filmed in New Zealand.
25:46So apparently the New Zealand accents were more challenging than your English accent.
25:50Oh, yeah.
25:51Hugely, because they...
25:52I mean, first of all, our accents in that are sort of, like, in the comics, it's just italic.
25:57So we do, like, an inspired by.
26:00But in New Zealand, they say, like...
26:04Instead of they say, well, Natalie Portman, because she's so much shorter than Chris Hemsworth,
26:09they had to build this deck for her so that when they're walking alongside each other,
26:13they look like they're relatively the same height.
26:15But in New Zealand...
26:16It's adorable.
26:17It's so sweet.
26:18And she just, like, always had to have it around.
26:20That's true.
26:21Um...
26:22You said you do that sometimes?
26:24I feel like sometimes I need an apple box so things don't look too strange.
26:27Yeah.
26:28Yeah.
26:29That is so cute.
26:30I live that life, too.
26:31Um...
26:32So she had this deck that they built, but there, with the accent, it doesn't sound like deck.
26:39Sounds like something else?
26:40Yes.
26:41So they'd come in, they'd be like, just bring in the deck.
26:45Natalie's gonna get on the deck.
26:48Fantastic.
26:49And we really loved it.
26:51I thought it was hard to keep an English accent when you're surrounded by New Zealand accents.
26:55Yeah.
26:56That's why it's, you know, hodgepodge.
26:58It was perfect.
27:00And, but it wasn't just the accent, you've been very vocal about the costume as well.
27:03You did not like Valkyrie's costume.
27:04No, I love her costume.
27:05I just think that...
27:06I don't know if you felt this.
27:08No one prepares you for when you play a super...
27:11Sweater uniforms.
27:12Oh, my God.
27:13So uncomfortable.
27:14Why do they do it?
27:15They didn't give me, like, a thing to pee, like, with Mystique.
27:19There was nothing.
27:20What do you mean?
27:21I mean, I couldn't pee.
27:22Okay, so the first...
27:23They were like, she doesn't have to go to the bathroom.
27:24Same.
27:25So I had that issue and then I was like, we have to do something about this.
27:28Yeah.
27:29And so they put, like, a zip in there.
27:31But you still have the whole costume.
27:32Oh, they gave me a funnel.
27:33Yeah, they gave me that, too.
27:34They gave me that, too.
27:35But I was like, I don't...
27:37Good for you.
27:38I don't...
27:39I can't do it.
27:40Wow.
27:41Rock on.
27:42You used the funnel?
27:43Yeah.
27:44You used the funnel?
27:45Yeah.
27:46I was like, oh, sorry!
27:47It was mostly...
27:48Did you ever have accidents with it?
27:50Mm-hmm.
27:51So you would just, like...
27:53I would just, like, come back with little drops of pee.
27:55Same!
27:56And everybody was like, oh!
27:57That's why I was afraid...
28:01It was more that I was afraid of my ability with the funnel.
28:04I'm so impressed that you've made it work.
28:06Well...
28:07I use the funnel myself.
28:08You use the funnel?
28:09Yes, I'm very often.
28:10Bruce uses the funnel.
28:11Well, you're born with a funnel, no?
28:15I was born with a funnel.
28:18I have two sons.
28:19I know how this works.
28:21And, oh, here's the thing.
28:24Jeremy, you know about big movie franchises,
28:27because you are...
28:28You're joining the Star Wars world, aren't you?
28:30You are?
28:31Yes, it's true.
28:32Yeah.
28:33Yes.
28:34Now, is this correct?
28:35You are playing Rotter the Hut.
28:37That's correct.
28:38Rotter.
28:39Yes.
28:40And is Rotter any relation to Jabba the Hut?
28:44That's correct.
28:45Yes.
28:46Oh.
28:47That's Dad.
28:48Oh!
28:49Yeah.
28:50I'm hoping the apple fell quite far from the tree.
28:54You know, it's interesting.
28:55I can't say too much about it.
28:57But, no, I look very much like that in the film.
29:00I just do voice work in the film.
29:02Oh.
29:03I'm not, you know, putting on any...
29:04So you won't need a funnel?
29:05No funnel necessary.
29:06No, no, no, no.
29:07He has a funnel.
29:09We have our funnels.
29:11He's just a bit broader, but still like a hut, yes.
29:16It's kind of like him and the Mandalorian running around
29:19for a lot of the movie together.
29:21So Rotter can run?
29:23Rotter can move, yeah, quickly, yes.
29:25OK.
29:26Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:27I'm intrigued.
29:28Yeah, good.
29:29And very quickly, Bruce, your band, the Cast...
29:32I might say the Castiles.
29:33That's correct.
29:34Was it...
29:35Were you literally named after the soap?
29:36Yes, I was.
29:37Or we were.
29:38Did you pick...
29:39I mean, how did you come up with that name?
29:41It was a...
29:42It was a popular shampoo in Freehold, New Jersey at the time.
29:46And in those days, it was kind of on the cusp of the 50s and 60s,
29:51so names like the Dells, the Shirelles, you know,
29:56so the Castiles sounded, you know, suited for its moment anyway.
30:02And how old were you when you were in the Castiles?
30:03I was 15.
30:0415.
30:05We've got a picture of you in the Castiles aged 15.
30:09Here we go.
30:11Now...
30:16I know, guess which one.
30:17I know, guess which one.
30:18I mean, I figured it out by elimination, but it's not obvious at all.
30:23It's the guy with all the acne.
30:25Well, that doesn't narrow it down.
30:31It's this one, right?
30:32That's correct.
30:33Yeah.
30:34I mean, you do look really different.
30:36You're the hottest one.
30:37The hottest one.
30:38The one on your right, who's he?
30:42He got in the band because he was just so handsome.
30:45Right.
30:46I still think he's number two.
30:47And his hair was perfect.
30:50A friend of mine, Paul Popkin.
30:54Which meant a lot in those days.
30:56And I'm guessing you were slightly influenced by the Beatles.
30:58Would I be right?
30:59Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:00It's just a whiff of it.
31:02And let me tell you, it took a lot to get my hair that straight, let me tell you.
31:07Do you have curly hair?
31:09I have curly hair.
31:10When I had hair.
31:11And I used to steal my mother's long bobby pins and stick it in my hair at night and sleep
31:19it like this on the pillow until it would be some semblance of...
31:23Well, it was worth it.
31:24It was fabulous.
31:25There you go.
31:26Look at you there.
31:27And what a Bruce Springsteen, everybody.
31:31Oh, Bruce.
31:36At right, it's time for music.
31:38Since her debut in 2009, she has won Brit Awards, headlined Glass Marie and sold over
31:4210 million albums worldwide.
31:44Here performing her new single, Everybody Scream, it is Florence and the Machine.
31:49Hello.
31:50Thank you so much for that.
31:51It's gorgeous.
31:52Come on up here.
31:53It's Tessa, Jenna, Jeremy, Bruce.
31:59Oh, wow.
32:00Thank you so much for that, Florence.
32:02Now, you know people, don't you?
32:04Yes.
32:05And Tessa.
32:06It's so nice to see.
32:07Yeah, you're probably your friend.
32:08Tessa knows everybody.
32:09No.
32:10And I know you know Bruce because weirdly you were on the show together before.
32:14This is where we hang out.
32:15I don't know.
32:16Yeah.
32:17It's absolutely true.
32:18Yes.
32:19So, yeah, this is where me and Bruce meet up every four years.
32:21Yeah.
32:22So, this is our annual meet-up.
32:23So, I'm so glad you came.
32:25I'm glad you're here too.
32:28And, but here's a weird, last time you did not reveal that you have history with Mr.
32:33Springsteen's music.
32:34I was too shy, but, and overwhelmed by bright lights and I don't even know if I said anything
32:40when I sat down, but I basically was too shy to tell you that one of the first songs
32:46that I ever started performing was I'm Going Down.
32:49So, we used to.
32:50Really?
32:51Yeah.
32:52I used to play it with my friend Kid Harpoon and we sang it as a duet.
32:54Holy cow.
32:55And we used to play it in all like the pubs and clubs of London and, because you know
32:59when you're starting out you don't really have any songs.
33:01Of course.
33:02Like we had like, I had three of my own songs and I'm Going Down was one of the other covers
33:07I used to play along.
33:08So, yeah.
33:09It's, I was too shy to tell you that last time, but I'm so glad that we had our annual
33:14meet up.
33:15I love it.
33:16And that's an unusual choice for a duet.
33:20But, uh.
33:21He doesn't like it.
33:22I'm flattered.
33:23Take it back.
33:24So, this is another four years.
33:27We'll discuss it.
33:28We'll be back here.
33:29Or you two will do it here.
33:30What?
33:31That's a lovely idea.
33:32Yes.
33:33Oh.
33:34Yes, Jessie.
33:35Yes.
33:36Oh.
33:37Yes, Jessie.
33:38Yes.
33:39A collab.
33:40A collab that was born on the show.
33:41I'm producing now.
33:42Yeah.
33:43Yes, I should say, that single, Everybody Scream, it's from the upcoming album of
33:49the same name, Here It Be.
33:51And it's out.
33:52Yes.
33:53Yeah, round of applause.
33:56Here it all is.
33:57It's, um, and fittingly for Everybody Scream, it's out on Halloween.
34:01Yeah.
34:02Was that all planned?
34:03Yeah, it was all planned and I actually turned this album around faster than usual
34:08because I just wanted to make this day.
34:10I was like, no, we have, it all rhymes.
34:12We have to make this date because it all rhymes.
34:14Front to the Machine, Everybody Scream, out on Halloween.
34:17And...
34:18OK.
34:19Marketing genius.
34:20Yeah.
34:21Marketing genius.
34:23And Front to the Machine on tour next year.
34:26Yeah.
34:27And am I right, this is academic because it's so...
34:30What is it?
34:31Did the whole thing sell out in an hour or something?
34:33It sold out very fast.
34:35Yeah.
34:36Yeah.
34:37And this is not just the UK, it's Europe as well, all gone.
34:39UK and Europe, it's all gone.
34:41But you are going to...
34:42Presumably, like, you know, I'm not your manager, but are they adding dates?
34:46LAUGHTER
34:47No, that's it.
34:48OK.
34:49It's gone.
34:50It's gone.
34:51It's on, but it's gone.
34:52I'm just saying here, it's 242,500 tickets all gone.
34:57Wow.
34:58Wow.
34:59Wow.
35:00That is impressive.
35:02And you are putting on a show.
35:04It's not like...
35:05Is the idea that it's going to be, like, spooky?
35:09Yeah.
35:10So, um, we wanted to do something a little different.
35:14It's such a personal record that there needed to be a really solid world around it.
35:19And we also wanted to do things we'd never done before.
35:21And I wanted moments of it to be, like, really genuinely terrifying.
35:26So, yeah, you know, it's good if you didn't get a ticket.
35:29It's very funny.
35:31LAUGHTER
35:32People handing them back now.
35:33Oh, stop complaining!
35:35Well, listen, good luck with the tour and thanks again for that amazing performance.
35:39Florence and the Machines!
35:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
35:48It's a hug.
35:49It's a hug.
35:50It's a hug.
35:52Right, that's really it before we go.
35:54Just time for a visit to the big red chair.
35:56Who have we got?
35:57Hello.
35:58Hi, what's your name?
35:59Jonathan.
36:00Hello, Jonathan.
36:01And where are you from?
36:02I'm from, um, East Horsley in Surrey.
36:05Wow, very specific in the end.
36:09And what do you do there?
36:10Um, I'm retired.
36:11OK.
36:12What did you do before?
36:13I worked at the London Stock Exchange.
36:15Oh, OK.
36:17Did you take early retirement?
36:18Yes.
36:23We stopped caring about the story now.
36:25Off you go, Jonathan.
36:27OK, so I'm at a family barbecue at the in-laws and the children are running around in the garden and we have a new puppy.
36:38Um, when we're tidying up after eating the meal, I'm sure that I see a chicken drumstick fall off a plate to the floor.
36:50Um, but when I look at the floor, it's not there, but the puppy is.
36:54Now, I have a hard time persuading anyone that this puppy, which is this big, has swallowed a drumstick that's this big, but I persuade my in-laws to search the rubbish to count the drumsticks.
37:09And lo and behold, there is one missing.
37:11So, um...
37:13LAUGHTER
37:15I like this story.
37:16It's very mysterious.
37:17Oh, I was going to say dump him.
37:19No, no, I like it.
37:20Well, my wife says, well, if the dog had eaten a chicken bun, it has to go to the vet.
37:25So, she takes him off to the vet, and, um, I stay behind with the children, and, um, long story short, um, she runs off with the vet.
37:35LAUGHTER
37:38OK, that is an excellent story.
37:40APPLAUSE
37:41You can walk, sir.
37:43LAUGHTER
37:44Yeah.
37:45APPLAUSE
37:47LAUGHTER
37:48I mean...
37:50Wow.
37:51..make that movie, somebody.
37:53LAUGHTER
37:56LAUGHTER
37:57That's all we've got time for.
37:59If you'd like to have a show on the red show yourself and tell your story, you've got that good fire on our website.
38:04At this very address, please say a huge thank you to all of our guests tonight.
38:07Florence and the Machine!
38:09CHEERING
38:10Tessa Thompson!
38:12APPLAUSE
38:13Jennifer Lawrence!
38:15APPLAUSE
38:16Jeremy Allen White!
38:18APPLAUSE
38:19And...
38:20Mr Bruce Springsteen!
38:22CHEERING
38:23APPLAUSE
38:25Join me next week with Little Sims, Rachel Zegler, Bryan Cranston, Sarah Paulson, and Kim Kardashian.
38:32I'll see you then.
38:33Good night, everybody!
38:34Bye-bye!
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