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00:00Dayball was fired by New York, and with that Dayball firing, Bill Belichick was asked in a press conference,
00:09you know, what do you think about the Giants' job, and he did not say he wasn't interested.
00:15Very deliberately said he did not say he wasn't interested.
00:19He just said he was focused on Wake Forest, which is like coaching the Giants.
00:25I mean, that's kind of how many times do you say that from the podium in New England were focused on a rather small D1 institution from North Carolina.
00:34Now, Bert, what are the chances that Belichick gets the New York Giants job?
00:42I don't think they're great.
00:45I just think the Giants are going to look at this from a big picture perspective.
00:51They've sort of looked at every category of coach over the last 10 years.
00:57The last time they successfully hired a head coach was in 2004 when they hired Tom Coughlin.
01:02So it's been a long time since they've gotten one right.
01:05And, you know, they went the young offensive coach route with Ben McAdoo.
01:09Then they tried the retread with Pat Shermer.
01:11Then they tried the kind of walk-around generalist type of coach in Joe Judge.
01:15And then came back to, like, the quarterback guru and Brian Dayball, and none of them worked.
01:20So they're going to spend the next two months really casting a wide net and trying to evaluate everything.
01:27And so, like, do I think they're going to look at Belichick?
01:32Yeah, they're going to look at everything.
01:34But I have a hard time seeing that being the conclusion that they come to.
01:39You know, I just look at, like, the makeup of their team, where they are.
01:44You know, I think they owe it to themselves to talk to him.
01:47And I think they probably will talk to him.
01:50But I think a lot of things would have to be right.
01:52Who's your offensive coordinator going to be?
01:54Who's your defensive coordinator going to be?
01:56Who's the head coach going to be in three years if you're not there anymore?
02:00I think all those questions have to be asked.
02:02And the thing to me that's, like, really key about this, if you're an NFL team, is one of the things that Bill did at a great level,
02:09and that program did at a great level, when they were really churning over those 20 years, was they developed people.
02:14Players, coaches, front office.
02:16And so they had Josh McDaniels ready to replace Charlie Weiss.
02:22They had Bill O'Brien ready to replace Josh McDaniels.
02:25They had the line of defensive coordinators from Rack to Mangini to DMPs to Matt Patricia to Brian Flores.
02:38The last five years, one of the reasons why the whole thing fell apart is because that pipeline stopped.
02:44And there's a reason why they had to turn to Joe Judge and Matt Patricia to be the offensive coordinator,
02:48because there wasn't somebody there to replace Josh McDaniels.
02:52So what have you seen at North Carolina that would convince you that all of a sudden he's going to be able to put together an NFL staff again?
02:59Well, you hired Lombardi.
03:01Well, that's so, like, I don't know where the proof is that he's going to be able to do it.
03:05Do you think, Bill, if he were to go for this Giants job or any other NFL job,
03:10is he going to completely back away from the notion that he needs to run things from a GM standpoint also?
03:17Oh, I think he would be, yeah, I think he would back off of some of that now.
03:20Like, I do think, like, he would, like, it's the Giants.
03:23I know he's said that before, but nobody believes him.
03:27It's the Giants.
03:28You know what I mean?
03:29And he's got a good understanding of what the Giants have always been that way,
03:34where the coach and the general manager has always sort of been the authority there.
03:37Even when Parcells was there, it was George Young.
03:40You know, so Bill's got a good enough understanding of history to understand, like,
03:44the way that that organization has always been running.
03:46I think he'd walk across hot coals to get that job.
03:48Okay, so what, in the last seven years, can you tell me one positive thing that he's done
03:53that would make you want him to be a coach?
03:55And that's the thing, Fred.
03:56Like, it's like, you have, I think you owe it to yourself to have the conversation with him.
04:00Because maybe he gives you some good ideas.
04:01He's going to be 74.
04:02I know, and that's the thing.
04:04It's like, if you're looking at it from a Giants perspective, it's like,
04:06look, a lot of things that we have done, a lot of things that, like, we have done over the last 10 years
04:17have gone absolutely the wrong way, and we need to rethink things.
04:21At the same time, there are two best hires, by far, over the last half century.
04:28Or who?
04:30Bill Parcells, Tom Coughlin.
04:32Right?
04:33Parcells was a promotion from within, and Tom Coughlin was a guy that they had had there before.
04:40So, like, their greatest success, that's why that's sort of like the crutch of that franchise,
04:47is to always go back to something you know, because that's where their greatest success was.
04:52Now, the most recent regime, they didn't do that.
04:55They went outside the organization for the first time.
04:57Guys they had no connection to, and that didn't work out either.
05:01So, now do they go back to what they know?
05:04Which would be Belichick?
05:06Huh?
05:07Belichick would be something when they know?
05:09Yeah, because they had him there.
05:10Yeah, but, you know, I was in middle school.
05:14No, no, no, no, no, but the family stayed in touch with him, though.
05:17Like, that's a known quantity.
05:17Yeah, but that's not having him.
05:19That's a known quantity, though.
05:21But that they were on the planet together?
05:23Well, I mean, Tom Coughlin was gone for 14 years.
05:2715 years and came back.
05:29So, like, it's not the same.
05:30I'm not saying it's the same.
05:31No, this is like 35 years.
05:34But I'm just saying, like, if you're...
05:3696 is when he took the Cleveland job?
05:38It's 30.
05:39Yeah.
05:39I'm just telling you that, like, one crutch of that franchise,
05:43and it's been a great franchise and has done a lot of things right for a long time.
05:47They're on hard times now.
05:48But one crutch of that franchise has been that they always go back to the familiar.
05:54So, that's why I'm saying, like, I think the phone call happens between John Mara and Bill Belichick.
06:00I don't think it goes anywhere, to be clear on this.
06:03Like, I don't think it goes anywhere.
06:04But I think the phone call happens.
06:06I don't think it goes anywhere, to be clear on this.
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