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John and Steve trace the ideological roots of mystical fascism and its unsettling influence on modern religious movements. They uncover how thinkers like Savitri Devi, Helena Blavatsky, and Alice Bailey shaped occult traditions that fed into Nazi spirituality—ideas that later resurfaced in Christian Identity, Latter Rain, and the New Apostolic Reformation. Together they explore how mysticism, dominionism, and political power converge into what Steve calls a “weaponization of Christianity,” connecting early 20th-century esoteric fascism to the rhetoric of modern revivalists.
Through themes like divine unity, eugenics, and “ongoing revelation,” they reveal how the same doctrines once used to justify racial purification now appear repackaged as “kingdom power” and “apostolic authority.” This episode dives deep into the historical cross-pollination of mysticism, nationalism, and religion—showing how the pursuit of a “divine world order” has too often led to destruction instead of redemption.
Chapter List
00:00 Introduction
00:31 Weaponization of Mysticism: Setting the Stage
02:00 Themes of Perfectionism, Dominionism, and Sacred Purge
05:00 Savitri Devi: Hitler’s Priestess and the Occult Roots
10:00 Anti-Semitism, Universal Reconciliation, and Ongoing Revelation
12:50 Devi’s Life, Beliefs, and Deviant Dogma
16:05 Cross-Pollination and Ideological Movements
18:00 Billion Soul Harvest and Political Convergence
20:10 Hitler as Avatar of Vishnu and the Kali Yuga Myth
25:05 Eugenics, Mind Control, and American Revivalists
28:00 Blavatsky, Nietzsche, and The Myth of the 20th Century
30:20 Who Devi Influenced: From Dugin to Pierce to the Alt-Right
34:40 Deep Ecology and Neo-Nazi Ideologies
37:00 Radicalization and Religious Manipulation
38:30 Fourth Reich and Esoteric Hitlerism
40:00 The Coming Right-Wing Messiah and Kalki Prophecies
43:00 Alt-Right, Mysticism, and Modern Politics
45:00 Hitler’s “Kindness” and Branham’s Twisted Teachings
48:00 Jane Leade and the Devil Reborn Doctrine
50:00 Manifest Sons of God and Sophia’s False Unity
53:00 Christian Identity as a Bridge to Mystical Extremism
56:00 Conclusion and Final Reflections
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Through themes like divine unity, eugenics, and “ongoing revelation,” they reveal how the same doctrines once used to justify racial purification now appear repackaged as “kingdom power” and “apostolic authority.” This episode dives deep into the historical cross-pollination of mysticism, nationalism, and religion—showing how the pursuit of a “divine world order” has too often led to destruction instead of redemption.
Chapter List
00:00 Introduction
00:31 Weaponization of Mysticism: Setting the Stage
02:00 Themes of Perfectionism, Dominionism, and Sacred Purge
05:00 Savitri Devi: Hitler’s Priestess and the Occult Roots
10:00 Anti-Semitism, Universal Reconciliation, and Ongoing Revelation
12:50 Devi’s Life, Beliefs, and Deviant Dogma
16:05 Cross-Pollination and Ideological Movements
18:00 Billion Soul Harvest and Political Convergence
20:10 Hitler as Avatar of Vishnu and the Kali Yuga Myth
25:05 Eugenics, Mind Control, and American Revivalists
28:00 Blavatsky, Nietzsche, and The Myth of the 20th Century
30:20 Who Devi Influenced: From Dugin to Pierce to the Alt-Right
34:40 Deep Ecology and Neo-Nazi Ideologies
37:00 Radicalization and Religious Manipulation
38:30 Fourth Reich and Esoteric Hitlerism
40:00 The Coming Right-Wing Messiah and Kalki Prophecies
43:00 Alt-Right, Mysticism, and Modern Politics
45:00 Hitler’s “Kindness” and Branham’s Twisted Teachings
48:00 Jane Leade and the Devil Reborn Doctrine
50:00 Manifest Sons of God and Sophia’s False Unity
53:00 Christian Identity as a Bridge to Mystical Extremism
56:00 Conclusion and Final Reflections
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00:30Hello, and welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.
00:36I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research at william-branham.org.
00:43And with me, I have my co-host and friend, Steve Montgomery, author of The Converging Apostasy and A Quick Outline on Hands-On Eschatology, A Matter of Timing and Agency.
00:54Steve, it's good to be back, and I'm really excited for this one.
00:58I don't know if you consider this the climax of the past few that we've done, but this episode is diving into the weaponization of mysticism.
01:07And that theme fascinates me because I'm talking very much about the weaponization of Christianity in general,
01:15and some of the politics and some of the different themes that I've talked about.
01:19Now we're starting to talk about from other countries towards the United States.
01:24So this gets really, really interesting really quick.
01:27So very excited to get into this with you.
01:30Yeah, great, John.
01:31Likewise here.
01:32The whole premise I have in my larger book about converging apostasy is, of course, just like it says,
01:40and since I've identified basically 10 themes where it's like repeated offenses.
01:50You know, they keep repeating these ideas from early on, like Valentinus in the second century on up to present.
01:56And so I've mostly dealt with the three that we've talked about, which would be some form of perfectionism or elitism leading to some form of dominionism,
02:11which I know a lot of our listeners understand that, gets into the political realm,
02:15and then actually some different stances and different ways to approach the idea of a sacred purge of feeling the right to be able to do that.
02:27We doubt the no good guys and we'll take a hold of the earth and run it the way we want it to.
02:33So this is going to be a big jump, but if you bear with it and follow what I'm up to,
02:40you'll see some of the ideological imprints on the Nazi party, on Hitler, actually are still out there and they haven't been eradicated yet,
02:54but they still have a little bit of an influence, sometimes a big influence on the identity movement.
03:00So you get these groups and individuals where it might be Wesley Swift, who you know quite a bit about him, John,
03:10slash Manifest Sons of God, slash New Age in some cases, where there's a big mismatch of different concepts that flow around.
03:21And through that mishmash, which I identified the main reason that even happens is through ongoing revelation,
03:31which I've harped down quite a bit in the past.
03:34So in my book, talking about 10 different themes, what kind of loosens things up and applies to Greece to the wheels,
03:44is this concept of ongoing revelation.
03:47So you can start with the Lateran brother or sister, and they decide, oh, there's something better over the hill.
03:56The green is grass, the grass is green, or whatever you want to say, as they proceed.
04:01And then before you know it, it's sort of a contest to see who can come up with the most outlandish versions of scriptural truth,
04:13and a lot of times even hop over that and get around it to where it's not scriptural whatsoever.
04:19So I'll let the audience know that the sources I used for this kind of idea of today,
04:27and oh, and by the way, a title I came up with for what we're doing today is
04:32From Savatri Devi to the Devil to the NAR.
04:37And so, no, I'm not saying that she had a conference with the NAR people and said,
04:44okay, look, you've got to teach this and this and this, and we'll all be in the same camp.
04:48And there's not a direct, hard, fast connection between the NAR and this woman, Devi.
04:55But you'll see that through several different movements, for example, Christian identity,
05:02there's a thread here, a thread there, that some people want to take that big jump over into Devi and what she's up to.
05:13Okay, so I'll get into who she is.
05:16But first off, I'll let you hear the three sources that are primarily used for this podcast.
05:27Okay, so this is by a scholar, and I think we've might have briefly mentioned it before.
05:33What he writes about, if you weren't up to snuff and knew, you know, what he does,
05:40he's truly a scholar, and you have to really put doctor in front of his name,
05:45Dr. Nicholas Goodrick hyphen Clark.
05:49So he was very fascinated with the Third Reich, and what he wrote is highly scholarly,
05:57but the title sometimes can make you think, oh boy, here's another conspiracy theorist or something.
06:03So the three books that I read, one was called The Black Sun,
06:06another was called The Occult Roots of Nazism,
06:11which, yes, many sensationalistic kind of writings and movies have been based on that idea.
06:18And then another one was called Hitler's Priestess.
06:22Okay, that's the focus of today.
06:26Savatry, Devi, and Nicholas Goodrick Clark's opinion
06:31functioned as something like a priestess
06:34to spreading the many dangerous and blasphemous ideas about Hitler
06:41and the relation to the Jews.
06:44So, just in general comments about this,
06:48I would say that any connective tissue of similar teachings and shared sources
06:55is what allows for teachings on anti-Semitism
06:58and the devil, or the devil reborn, as the way I put it,
07:03to exist in seed form from which they may develop, grow, and cross-pollinate.
07:11And I know you've used that word also, John.
07:13It's quite true that these movements will take a little bit from this side
07:17and a little bit from this,
07:18and before you know it, you've got this horrible, horrible combination.
07:23So, I put that this mix-and-match kind of idea occurs on a continuum
07:29from just a little bit,
07:32and sometimes you don't even know what the source is, where it came from,
07:37to somewhat, there may be a little bit of understanding
07:40of where all these ideas come from,
07:42and to the all-out,
07:46where they understand, you know,
07:48entirely where the idea came from,
07:51and they just happen to be advocates for it.
07:54And all three of these are truly
07:56examples of divide and conquer,
07:59because if you're talking about the Christian faith,
08:03and you introduce, you know,
08:04like Jesus said,
08:07a little leaven,
08:08leavens the whole batch,
08:09you introduce a little bit of this,
08:11then you've got major problems.
08:15And this is something we were discussing right before you pushed a record today, John,
08:20is the idea of introducing and reconciling all opposites.
08:28That, in its basic seed form,
08:30is very, very prevalent in the occult world,
08:35and all the way down to Satanists,
08:37because they say that light and dark will be reconciled,
08:43Christ and the devil will be reconciled,
08:46and they're just going out with this kind of opposites connecting.
08:51So, I'd let it be kind of a warning to someone,
08:56if they're seeing a teacher,
08:58spiritual teacher of some sort,
09:00talking about connecting and resolving all opposites.
09:03Well, they may not all out be saying that we worship the devil,
09:09but they certainly have the principle in place.
09:12Here's an example.
09:14Not that he's somebody you want to read about and have a pleasant night's sleep.
09:18That's Charles Manson.
09:20He actually said,
09:21if you look,
09:22not what he did,
09:23what he encouraged others to do,
09:25but quotes from him come down to the same thing.
09:30It's God and the devil,
09:31and he said that he just happened to manifest this more than some others
09:37who never took action on it like he did.
09:40And then, of course,
09:41you get to Western esotericism,
09:43under the influence of Valentinus,
09:46the Gnostic,
09:47has actually set precedents
09:49that were handed down through time
09:52for anti-Semitic thought
09:55and the devil reborn.
09:57And where do they go?
09:58To this right source of all no good stuff,
10:03and that is Helena Blavatsky,
10:05and also Savatra Devi.
10:08And even to a lesser extent,
10:11to Jane Leed
10:12and those she influenced
10:14through the Lateran movement
10:15and the Manifest Sons of God ministries.
10:18So, if you take that idea
10:22and you say,
10:23what are four of the most prominent concepts
10:26that will lead to the devil reborn?
10:29And you can find this in Christianity or elsewhere.
10:32It's to attack God's people,
10:35the Jews.
10:37That's already inherently
10:38a step forward to embracing the devil
10:42because you're commending those
10:44who want to do harm
10:48to the chosen Jews.
10:51Another one is what I mentioned,
10:54a universal reconciliation.
10:56This often leads to a whitewashed
10:59devil reborn.
11:01Three,
11:02the process of ongoing relation
11:04as encouraged by Jane Leed
11:07and those in the Lateran
11:09and the Nahr.
11:11This leads away from the gospel
11:13once delivered
11:14to other gospels.
11:16Again,
11:17it doesn't mean they fully embraced him yet,
11:19but they're sort of on the precipice
11:21of being more vulnerable
11:23towards falling on over
11:25to one of those camps
11:26and just saying,
11:27oh,
11:27the Lord told me
11:28we got this new revelation,
11:30et cetera.
11:31And then four,
11:33something we hear
11:34quite often in the Nahr,
11:35and you would hear this
11:38from various manifest
11:39sons of God teachers,
11:41is that there will be
11:42a billion soul harvest
11:44to usher in the kingdom
11:45and this harvest of souls
11:48will happen before Christ
11:50is allowed to return.
11:53Well,
11:54this happens to line up
11:56with the timeline
11:57of those who are
11:59basically saying
12:00that they will receive
12:01some sort of
12:03an imposter
12:04leader
12:06a new Christ
12:07and
12:08these ideas
12:09would converge.
12:11Now,
12:12when I was making
12:12my notes for this,
12:13I kind of forgot
12:14why I said this,
12:16but I don't want to spend
12:17too much time on it,
12:18but just
12:18to toss out
12:20something that Jesus said
12:21and maybe
12:23one of the listeners
12:24can see how it fits
12:25what we're talking about
12:26better.
12:27In Matthew 6,
12:2824,
12:29Jesus said,
12:30Noah can serve
12:31two masters.
12:33Either you will hate
12:34the one
12:35and love the other
12:36or you will be
12:37devoted to one
12:38and despise the other.
12:40Okay,
12:41so we heard it
12:42straight from him
12:43and probably has
12:45a lot of different
12:46ways that could be
12:46interpreted.
12:48Okay,
12:48so just a quick
12:49introduction
12:50to Savitri Devi.
12:53She was born
12:54Maximiani
12:56Portis.
12:57She lived from
12:581905 to 1982.
13:02In honor
13:03of Savitri,
13:05who's
13:05closely related
13:07to the
13:08Hindu god
13:08Sura,
13:10she changed
13:11her name
13:12to Savitri Devi.
13:15But Devi
13:16was no dummy.
13:17Sorry,
13:17I'm starting to get
13:18to my
13:19language arts
13:21remembrance
13:22of fifth graders.
13:23Devi was no dummy,
13:24but she was deceived
13:26and deceiving
13:27of others.
13:28For example,
13:29she earned
13:29two master degrees,
13:31one in philosophy,
13:32one in science,
13:33and she received
13:34a PhD degree
13:35in chemistry.
13:37She promoted
13:38a mix,
13:40here's that idea
13:40again,
13:41of a convergence,
13:43a mix of Hinduism
13:44and Nazism.
13:46And she became
13:47one of the leading
13:48members
13:49of the neo-Nazi
13:51underground
13:51during the 1960s.
13:53This was strange
13:55when I read this,
13:56but go figure.
13:59Just like Hitler,
14:01she was a vegetarian.
14:03And like Hitler,
14:04she loved dogs.
14:05And she actually
14:06preferred
14:07animals to humans.
14:09She said
14:10that people
14:10who do not
14:11quote,
14:12respect nature
14:13or animals
14:13should be executed.
14:16Okay.
14:16So she's got
14:17a quick
14:18trigger finger
14:19there.
14:20Maybe due
14:21to this love
14:22for animals,
14:23she liked to sing
14:24the worst
14:25Riesel song,
14:26which,
14:28I'm sorry,
14:29it's not really
14:30a laughing matter,
14:31but sort of it is.
14:33Okay.
14:34So in 1929,
14:36a German soldier
14:37named
14:38Worst Riesel
14:39was shot
14:41and killed
14:41by Russian
14:42armed
14:44militia
14:45people.
14:46And the lyrics
14:47of the song
14:48go like so,
14:49this is a part of it,
14:50millions of people
14:51are looking
14:52at the swastika
14:53full of hope
14:54today for freedom
14:55and bread
14:56is dawning.
14:58Won't go
14:58into it now,
14:59but the idea
15:00of freedom
15:01and bread
15:02and connecting
15:04that to something
15:05like the swastika,
15:07there's a lot
15:07of interesting
15:08implications.
15:11This is also
15:12odd,
15:13but
15:13can't wait
15:15to hear what
15:15you have to say
15:16about it,
15:16John.
15:16In 1970,
15:18Debbie spent
15:19nine months
15:20at the home
15:22of her friend,
15:23Francois,
15:24Francois,
15:25I think I'm
15:25getting that close,
15:27that's French,
15:28Dior.
15:29And Dior
15:29was the niece
15:31of the French
15:32fashion designer,
15:33Christian Dior.
15:35But Debbie's
15:36personal habits
15:37become very annoying.
15:39She didn't take
15:39baths during
15:40the nine months
15:41stay,
15:41and she
15:43insisted on
15:45continually
15:45chewing garlic.
15:48After a while,
15:49the two friends
15:50could not put up
15:50with this anymore,
15:52so Debbie moved
15:53out with a lot
15:54of cats
15:55and at least
15:55one cobra.
15:57There's a few
15:57things that you
15:58mentioned in there
15:59that I want to
16:00highlight,
16:01a few things
16:02actually that I
16:03want to go
16:03deeper with,
16:04but one of them
16:05you mentioned
16:05the phrase
16:06cross-pollination,
16:07which I've used
16:07quite often.
16:09A lot of people
16:09try to trace
16:10the roots of
16:11doctrine and
16:11they find it
16:12difficult because
16:12there aren't
16:14linear trees
16:15that you can
16:15just follow
16:16to find where
16:17doctrine came
16:18from.
16:18It's this
16:19cross-pollination
16:20of ideas.
16:21And one of the
16:22things that
16:22happens whenever
16:23there is a
16:24cross-pollination,
16:25people start to
16:26come together
16:28around ideologies.
16:30And so as a
16:30doctrine supports
16:31another doctrine
16:32and like minds
16:34joined in together,
16:35then it gets
16:37to the point
16:37where it turns
16:39into a movement
16:40and the movement
16:40takes form.
16:42You mentioned
16:42the billion soul
16:44harvest,
16:45which interestingly
16:46this just came up
16:47in a podcast
16:48that I was doing
16:49a couple of days
16:50back,
16:51but I was
16:52studying the
16:52timeline whenever
16:54Vice President
16:55Nixon,
16:56I think at that
16:56point in time,
16:57when he was
16:57addressing the
16:59full gospel
17:01businessmen
17:02during the
17:03national prayer
17:04breakfast,
17:04he was saying
17:05that communism
17:05is attacking us
17:06and we have a
17:07battle of the
17:08minds.
17:08We need you all
17:09to go out
17:10and fight
17:10this battle
17:10of the minds,
17:11which ended up
17:13to be in many
17:14cases in these
17:15destructive cults
17:16brainwashing.
17:17So you had
17:17those agendas
17:19were coming
17:19together and
17:20those were
17:20political agendas
17:21mixed with
17:22religious agendas,
17:23so that cross-pollination
17:25began to happen.
17:27But where I'm
17:27headed with all
17:28of this is
17:28as this happens,
17:30as these people
17:31come together
17:32on ideologies,
17:33it turns into
17:34a case where
17:35they want
17:36to conquer
17:37and they want
17:38to forcibly
17:40convert because
17:41of the political
17:42themes behind it.
17:44And what I find
17:45fascinating about
17:45all of this
17:46and your research,
17:47when you dive
17:48into the
17:49underlying themes
17:51of mysticism
17:52and how that
17:53works and how
17:54that propagates,
17:55there's this idea
17:56that Sophia
17:57will bring
17:58divine unity
17:59to everything.
18:00and so they
18:01want to convert
18:03to their mystic
18:04world.
18:05Well, the cults
18:06are fighting this.
18:07Whenever this
18:09ideology was
18:09spreading and
18:10William Branham
18:11was spearheading
18:11the revivals,
18:12he was saying
18:13they're trying
18:14to form a
18:14one-world religion
18:15and we must
18:16fight this,
18:17brothers and
18:18sisters.
18:18I remember
18:19hearing this
18:19over and over
18:20and over.
18:21Well, I never
18:22really thought
18:22about the
18:23reverse of that.
18:24What they're
18:25attempting to do
18:26is they're
18:26trying to
18:27forcibly convert
18:28everybody to
18:29their one-world
18:29religion.
18:30It is both
18:31the same
18:31thing, right?
18:33And it wasn't
18:34long after
18:35Nixon's charge.
18:35I'd have to go
18:36back and see
18:37the dates.
18:37I want to say
18:38it was the
18:38next year,
18:39maybe.
18:40They started
18:40pushing that
18:41we're going
18:41to have a
18:42billion soul,
18:43they didn't
18:44use the word
18:45harvest, I
18:45think,
18:45billion soul
18:46revival,
18:46maybe.
18:47So they were
18:47pushing the
18:48same exact
18:49agenda.
18:50And when you
18:50look at the
18:51two competing
18:52forces,
18:53their intent
18:54was to create
18:55a one religion
18:57that conquered
18:57the other one.
18:58Yeah,
18:59John,
18:59that's
19:00truly amazing
19:01as always.
19:03And sort
19:04of that
19:05contrast that
19:06happens with
19:07both of us,
19:07I know,
19:08and with other
19:08people doing
19:10similar things,
19:11is there is a
19:12linear path to
19:13take,
19:14and so-and-so
19:15was sitting
19:17under the
19:18teachings of
19:18so-and-so.
19:20So,
19:20okay,
19:20well,
19:21that's where
19:21Sam Fyfe and
19:22Bill Britton
19:23got so much
19:24of the
19:24similar ideas.
19:26Britton was
19:27getting it
19:27straight from
19:28Jane's lead,
19:31at least a
19:31lot of his
19:32eschatology.
19:34And his
19:34close connection
19:35with Sam Fyfe,
19:36well,
19:36they just
19:36kind of
19:37breathe the
19:38same rarefied
19:39air,
19:40whatever you
19:40want to
19:40call it.
19:42But yeah,
19:43Devi was
19:44definitely in
19:45on a lot of
19:46those kind
19:46of things,
19:47just from a
19:48slightly different
19:49angle and a
19:50different point
19:51in history,
19:51a different
19:52country.
19:52So here
19:54for the
19:54next part,
19:55I just
19:56put this
19:57as,
19:57again,
19:58excuses for
20:00the alliteration,
20:02Devi's deviant
20:03dogma,
20:04because it
20:05was definitely,
20:05yeah,
20:06okay,
20:07add another
20:07deviant,
20:08it was
20:08definitely
20:08dogma,
20:10and it
20:10was definitely
20:11deviant.
20:12Okay,
20:13so she
20:15saw Hitler
20:15as the
20:16ninth avatar,
20:18meaning the
20:19ninth incarnation
20:20of the
20:21Hindu god
20:22Vishnu.
20:24Okay,
20:24so one
20:25of the
20:25concepts
20:25comes up
20:26with this
20:27quite a
20:28bit,
20:29is that
20:29when you
20:30try to
20:30bring out
20:33the idea
20:34of an
20:34eschatology
20:35when it
20:36comes to
20:37esoteric
20:38folks,
20:39a lot of
20:40times,
20:40oh no,
20:40they couldn't
20:41believe that
20:41because they
20:42just think,
20:43you know,
20:43after they
20:44die,
20:44they're
20:44being
20:45reincarnated
20:46again,
20:46it just
20:47keeps going
20:47and going
20:48and going,
20:49recycling
20:49souls.
20:50and
20:52actually
20:53Blavatsky
20:54and some
20:55of the
20:55other
20:56major
20:56writers,
20:57major
20:57thinkers
20:57talked
20:59about,
21:00quote,
21:00the
21:00final
21:01incarnation
21:02and
21:03although
21:04in the
21:04big picture
21:05they might
21:05be thinking
21:06of a
21:09system,
21:10you know,
21:10looking through
21:10all the
21:11yugas,
21:12Kali yuga
21:13and all
21:15the other
21:16ones that
21:16they have,
21:17the idea
21:18of this
21:18last
21:19culminating
21:20incarnation
21:23is what
21:25they thought
21:25Hitler was
21:26at that
21:26point.
21:27Of course,
21:27they had to
21:28rewrite things,
21:29but when they
21:29found like,
21:29oh,
21:30he didn't
21:30quite make
21:31it.
21:31So,
21:32here's another
21:32kind of
21:32deviant
21:33idea,
21:34that Hitler
21:35made a,
21:36quote,
21:37sacrifice for
21:38humanity,
21:39yes,
21:39disgusting,
21:40it sounds
21:40like Christ
21:41to lead
21:43to the
21:44end of
21:44the Dark
21:45Age,
21:46aka the
21:47Kali yuga
21:48under the
21:49reign of
21:50the Jew.
21:51This would
21:52then usher
21:52in a
21:53golden age.
21:55So,
21:55yeah,
21:56you can see
21:56how that
21:56kind of
21:57runs
21:57parallel
21:58to
21:59prophecies
22:01we hear
22:01through the
22:02Nara and
22:03others,
22:05but with
22:06Debbie's
22:07own touch
22:08to it.
22:09So,
22:10speaking of
22:10touch,
22:11this was
22:11one of
22:12her major
22:12works,
22:13which has
22:14been
22:14influential
22:15in many
22:16aspects of
22:18what I
22:18think of
22:19as the
22:19converging
22:20apostasy.
22:22In her
22:22The Lightning
22:23and the
22:24Sun,
22:24she says
22:25that Hitler
22:25prophesied
22:27in 1928
22:29the new
22:30order.
22:31He said
22:32of himself,
22:33I am
22:33not he,
22:34but while
22:35nobody else
22:36comes forward
22:36to prepare
22:37the way
22:37for him,
22:38I do
22:39so.
22:39Now,
22:40you know,
22:41people
22:41ascribe
22:42quotes to
22:44people to
22:45say whatever,
22:46so I
22:47don't really
22:47know if
22:48that's
22:49something that
22:50can be
22:50verified,
22:51but it's
22:52quite interesting
22:53if it is
22:54true.
22:55Another
22:55thing
22:56Debbie was
22:57real into
22:58from her
22:59embracing of
23:00Hindu ideas,
23:01she liked the
23:02caste system,
23:03where he
23:04had different
23:05levels of
23:05society,
23:07different
23:07forms of
23:09reincarnation
23:11as either
23:11a very low
23:12caste on
23:13up to
23:13the higher
23:14ruling
23:15caste.
23:17And if you
23:17look at
23:18Plato's
23:18writings,
23:19there's a
23:19little bit
23:19of that
23:20there too.
23:21And in a
23:24very general
23:24way,
23:25you can put
23:25this as
23:26something like
23:27submission to
23:28apostles and
23:29prophets,
23:29as we see
23:30this in
23:30the NAR.
23:32Very
23:32generally
23:33speaking,
23:34I'm it,
23:36you're almost
23:36it, you're not
23:37it, that kind
23:38of stuff.
23:39I know that we
23:39talked about
23:40this in
23:42another podcast,
23:43but what
23:45was known
23:45or is
23:46still known
23:46as Hindutva,
23:48which is
23:49the Hindu
23:50nationalist
23:50ideology that's
23:52led by
23:53India's
23:53prime minister,
23:55Narendra
23:55Modi,
23:57actually has
23:59some aspects
24:00to what we
24:01would say
24:01we have
24:02MAGA.
24:03And so
24:05I'll let
24:06people take
24:06that and
24:07run with
24:07it as far
24:07as they
24:08want to.
24:09She also
24:10believed in
24:11quality
24:12control,
24:13through
24:14eugenics,
24:15another one
24:16that you
24:16might want
24:17to look
24:17it up if
24:17you don't
24:19know much
24:19about that.
24:21And so
24:22some people
24:23have described
24:23her as
24:24being a
24:25pessimistic
24:25pantheist.
24:28Yes,
24:28there's unity
24:29of all life
24:30and all life
24:30is sacred,
24:32but she
24:32takes them
24:33to that
24:33kind of
24:36open door,
24:37if you will,
24:38into a
24:38reconciliation
24:39of all
24:41things.
24:42And so
24:42if you do
24:43that,
24:43and say
24:45like her,
24:46dark and
24:47evil aspects
24:48will be
24:49united with
24:51this colossal
24:52view of
24:52the whole
24:53universe as
24:55divine,
24:58then you end
24:58up with
24:59some ideas
25:00that are
25:01very easy
25:01to take
25:02into the,
25:04whatever you
25:05want to say,
25:05like I've
25:06said,
25:06devil reborn.
25:08You know,
25:08whenever I
25:09left the
25:10Branham cult
25:10and after
25:11I discovered
25:12that white
25:12supremacy was
25:13so closely
25:14tied to it,
25:15and then
25:16discovered
25:16Christian
25:16identity,
25:17my world
25:18was changed.
25:19But as I'm
25:20studying all of
25:20this,
25:20and I go down
25:21these different
25:21pathways,
25:22one of the
25:22pathways that I
25:23found was
25:23eugenics,
25:24which you
25:24mentioned.
25:25And it's
25:26really hard
25:27to believe
25:27that this
25:28was even
25:30taught in
25:30schools in
25:31the United
25:32States.
25:33It's the idea
25:34for anybody who
25:34doesn't know,
25:35it's the idea
25:35that you can
25:36improve the
25:37genetic quality
25:38of the human
25:39population by
25:40controlling the
25:41reproduction.
25:43And this was
25:44a widespread,
25:45this was a
25:45science,
25:45you go to
25:46science class
25:46and they
25:47would teach
25:47you this
25:47kind of
25:47stuff.
25:49And what's
25:49interesting is
25:50the reason that
25:51I went down
25:52that rabbit
25:52trail is because
25:53there were
25:54actually,
25:55ministers and
25:56revivalists who
25:58were trying to
25:59teach this as
26:00Christian science
26:01as well.
26:02And I don't
26:02mean Christian
26:03science like
26:03the cult,
26:04I mean like
26:04literally this
26:06is the Christian
26:07way we should
26:07be,
26:08we should breed
26:08out the
26:09inbreds and
26:09they use all
26:11kinds of
26:11derogatory terms
26:12to talk about
26:15this,
26:15but that was
26:16something that
26:17plagued the
26:17United States.
26:19To think of
26:20what Hitler did
26:21and now you
26:22bring that into
26:22the aspect of
26:23all of this,
26:24he's doing
26:24much the
26:25same thing
26:26and where
26:27it gets
26:27really,
26:28really scary
26:28is many
26:29of the
26:30mind control
26:30techniques that
26:31Hitler is
26:32using are
26:33being used
26:33by ministers
26:34in the
26:35United States
26:36to try to
26:37do the
26:37same agendas.
26:39Hitler just
26:39had more
26:40success with
26:41them and
26:43I did the
26:44study on how
26:45Hitler was
26:46using the
26:46mind control
26:47on the
26:47people,
26:48the different
26:49techniques he
26:49used and
26:51no, we
26:52can't say
26:52that we
26:52had
26:53concentration
26:54camps and
26:54all of
26:55this, but
26:55what I
26:55can say
26:56is ministers
26:57were enthralled
26:59with the
26:59idea that
27:00you could
27:01control
27:01somebody's
27:02mind enough
27:03to get
27:03them to
27:04believe your
27:04ideology and
27:06good or bad,
27:08some of the
27:08men and women
27:09who were
27:10preaching this
27:10way, some
27:12of them probably
27:12did have good
27:13agendas, but
27:14think about the
27:15ones who did
27:15not have good
27:16agendas.
27:16Yeah, that's
27:18right, and
27:19it reminds me
27:20of something
27:21that, you
27:22know, occasionally
27:23we'll have a
27:23comment where
27:25somebody says,
27:25you guys didn't
27:26really define
27:27that, and I
27:28can just say
27:29sorry for past
27:31times, sorry
27:32for those
27:32things, sorry
27:32for the future
27:33because there's
27:35such huge cans
27:36of worms, but
27:38as you're speaking
27:38about Christian
27:40identity, that
27:42just comes up
27:43right away, is
27:45not only
27:46who did
27:47Debbie
27:48influence, but
27:49who influenced
27:50her.
27:51Okay, so
27:51who influenced
27:52her is not
27:53too hard to
27:53follow in
27:54some respects
27:55because it's
27:56a blend of
27:56Gnosticism,
27:58Blavatsky's
27:59form of
28:00theosophy, and
28:01traditionalism, and
28:03that one gets
28:04confused quite
28:04often, so the
28:06quick, easy
28:07answer, but
28:07there's a lot
28:08more to it, is
28:10that it's sort
28:10of a Plato-based
28:12perennial wisdom
28:14that supposedly
28:14exists in all
28:16religions, and
28:18if you have
28:19the time to
28:20pursue it, you
28:21could go down
28:21the rabbit hole
28:23of Alice
28:24Bailey as
28:26being one
28:27that follows
28:28a lot of
28:28this stuff
28:29in the wrong
28:31road.
28:32Then that
28:33brings us
28:34to another
28:34individual who
28:36we know had
28:37somewhat influence
28:38on Hitler and
28:39the Nazis, and
28:41that's Friedrich
28:41Nietzsche, and
28:43Debbie said
28:44that she
28:45was markedly
28:47influenced by
28:49his Beyond
28:50Good and
28:51Evil, another
28:52work of his
28:53called The
28:54Will to
28:54Power, and
28:56another one
28:57called Oddly
28:58Death, The
28:59Antichrist.
29:00Now, there's
29:01another writing
29:02that really had
29:04an impact on
29:05her by Alfred
29:06Rosenberg, and
29:07it was called
29:08The Myth of
29:09the 20th
29:09Century.
29:10So, this
29:11is a
29:11pseudoscientific
29:12book about
29:14divine blood
29:16and racial
29:16purity, and
29:18it won't take
29:19much thought to
29:19see how that
29:20reacted, worked
29:22with the
29:23Third Reich.
29:25Another one
29:26that generally
29:27fits, but you
29:28can see how
29:28this one is
29:30acting itself
29:30out through
29:31Debbie and
29:32others, is
29:33Social
29:33Darwinism.
29:35If you just
29:35Google that,
29:36you'll get a
29:37lot to learn
29:38about, and
29:40basically, it's
29:41the strong
29:41and the
29:42ruthless
29:42survive.
29:44Those who
29:44can't quite
29:45keep up
29:46don't survive.
29:49Another person
29:50who's quite
29:51interesting is
29:53and was
29:54praised by
29:55Steve Bannon.
29:57Without the
29:58long discussion,
29:59he was highly
30:00influential on
30:02Steve Miller,
30:03and that
30:04individual's name
30:05is Julius
30:06Evola.
30:07he was an
30:08occultist, and
30:10he was
30:10actually associated
30:11with fascist
30:12Italy and
30:14Nazi Germany.
30:15Have you ever
30:17wondered how the
30:18Pentecostal movement
30:19started, or how
30:20the progression of
30:21modern Pentecostalism
30:22transitioned through
30:24the latter reign,
30:25charismatic, and
30:26other fringe
30:26movements into the
30:28new apostolic
30:29reformation?
30:30You can learn this
30:31and more on
30:32William Branham
30:32Historical Research's
30:34website,
30:35william-branham.org.
30:37On the books
30:38page of the
30:38website, you can
30:39find the compiled
30:40research of
30:41John Collins,
30:42Charles Paisley,
30:43Stephen Montgomery,
30:45John McKinnon,
30:46and others, with
30:47links to the
30:47paper, audio, and
30:49digital versions of
30:50each book.
30:51You can also find
30:52resources and
30:53documentation on
30:54various people and
30:55topics related to
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31:16Okay, so those
31:17are a few other
31:18folks that had an
31:21impact on Davy,
31:22although there was
31:22quite a few more.
31:24And who did she
31:25influence?
31:26This is another
31:26interesting area to
31:27look at.
31:29Well, she provides
31:30a doctrinal
31:31connected tissue to
31:33reach deeper into
31:34the world of
31:35violent-prone
31:36Satanists of all
31:37people.
31:38people, but at
31:39the same time to
31:40those in Christian
31:41identity, the
31:43right and
31:43potentially to
31:44manifest Sons of
31:45God-based present
31:47truth ministries who
31:49are in the search
31:50of the next deep
31:51revelation.
31:52She also had an
31:53impact on some
31:55New Age feminists,
31:57on some UFO Nazi
31:59groups, and there's
32:00more of those than
32:01you'd imagine.
32:02And then on a
32:03person who, John,
32:06excuse me, I'm
32:07quite sure you
32:08know about this
32:08fellow, William
32:10Luther Pierce.
32:12And he is the
32:13author of a racist
32:14book or two.
32:16The more popular
32:17ones were The
32:18Turner Diaries, and
32:20the other one is
32:21Hunter.
32:22And these
32:23inspired the
32:25Oklahoma Bomber,
32:27in which quite a
32:28few people, I
32:29don't have it on
32:30my tongue, 130-some-odd
32:32perished.
32:32and then also the
32:34January 6th
32:35insurrection of the
32:36Capitol, where you
32:38heard things like
32:39hang so-and-so,
32:40hang so-and-so.
32:41Well, if you were to
32:42read these two books,
32:43you'd find out it
32:44says, oh, the
32:46righteous will rise
32:48up and be poured
32:50upon Washington, D.C.,
32:53where there will be
32:54many people hung
32:57who are not going
32:59with this proper
33:00way to see the world.
33:01So, another
33:03person who's
33:04influenced by
33:06Devin is the
33:07omnicidal, that
33:08means kill them
33:09all, nuke them
33:10all, mystical
33:12fascist, Alexander
33:14Dugin.
33:15Okay, Dugin is
33:16also interesting
33:17because he has
33:18such a big
33:19influence over
33:19Putin.
33:23So, if you have
33:24Dugin influencing
33:25Putin, and then
33:26take that back to
33:27the step of
33:28Savitri
33:29influencing Dugin,
33:31you have this
33:33really soiled
33:35connection, which
33:36doesn't bring get
33:37to anything.
33:38So, another thing
33:40that I found out
33:40about, which I
33:41hadn't read much
33:42about, but it
33:43makes sense, is
33:45deep ecology, and
33:47it has other names
33:48like deep green, or
33:50the green movement.
33:50not everybody
33:52involved in those
33:53movements is a
33:54fanatic and
33:55dangerous, but
33:57the ones that
33:58have anything to
33:59do with Savitri
34:00believe the world
34:02population must be
34:03reduced to more
34:04than 100 million,
34:06and she felt that
34:08this should be done
34:09at any means, or
34:10by any means
34:11possible.
34:12So, that means
34:13let the starving
34:14starve, let the
34:16diseased and old
34:17die, and allow for,
34:20euthanization, or
34:23to be forcibly
34:23removed for the
34:25sake of the
34:26planet.
34:27Another one, it
34:29sounds like you're
34:29talking about
34:30Charles Manson,
34:31people get these
34:32guys confused, but
34:33James Mason, who
34:36ran with all these
34:37type folks, his
34:40periodical called
34:42Siege helped to
34:43make Charles
34:44Manson a hero of
34:47neo-Nazi Satanists.
34:49So, their answer
34:50crops up again.
34:52Is this saying that
34:53the NAR is teaching
34:54this?
34:55No, but it is
34:56saying that if you
34:57put Savitri in the
35:00middle, and you have
35:02a reaching back to
35:03the Nazis,
35:04essentially, and then
35:06you have folks on the
35:08other end of the
35:08spectrum who have
35:10connections with,
35:11say, Stephen Miller
35:13and Steve Bannon
35:15and alt-right
35:16kind of folks,
35:19and also would go
35:20with that as
35:21the Turner
35:25Diaries and all
35:26the other things.
35:27Then what you have
35:28is an ideology in
35:31the middle, which is
35:31really, really out
35:33and out corrupt in
35:34one way, but
35:36potentially very
35:37corrupt, and
35:37already corrupt, but
35:39it could get much
35:40worse on the other
35:41hand.
35:41Finally, you get
35:43to, in this group
35:45of people that she
35:46influenced, David
35:48Myatt.
35:49I'm not sure if
35:50that's how you
35:51pronounce it, M-Y-A-T-T.
35:55I've heard him
35:55described as the
35:56most dangerous
35:59man on the
36:00planet.
36:02Interesting fellow,
36:03but he was a
36:04violent neo-Nazi.
36:06He was very
36:07impressed by
36:08Debbie's The
36:08Light and the
36:09Sun.
36:09There we go again
36:10with that one.
36:11He happened to
36:12call 9-11
36:14attacks of
36:16heroism.
36:18Okay, so he
36:18totally approved
36:19what they did.
36:21And then he
36:22became leader of
36:23the satanic
36:24group called
36:25the Order of
36:26Mind.
36:28It's not
36:29angels.
36:30It's the Order
36:31of Nine
36:32Angles, which
36:33actually promotes
36:35human sacrifice and
36:36killing of Jews.
36:37So again, that
36:38thing of cross
36:39pollination, you
36:41have a lot of
36:42different ideas
36:42mingling together,
36:44and then people
36:45that are in the
36:46latter range,
36:47literally, who
36:49take several
36:49steps to where
36:50they get closer
36:51to this sort of
36:51stuff.
36:53You know, and the
36:53radicalization is
36:54insidious.
36:55We did some
36:56podcasts recently
36:57about Vance
36:59Belter, who
37:00was the
37:00assassin who
37:02Minnesota, you
37:03can look up the
37:04news, I won't go
37:05deep into that, but
37:05the idea was that
37:09he was radicalized
37:10by ministers who
37:12were working with
37:13or I think he was
37:15even trained by
37:16people in Christ for
37:17the Nations
37:17Institute, which
37:19was led by Gordon
37:20Lindsay, who was
37:21William Branham's
37:21campaign manager, who
37:23was also a speaker in
37:24Christian Identity
37:24Conferences, so I
37:27was getting
37:27questioned by
37:28different news
37:29journalists, was he
37:30radicalized by these
37:32people, and I think
37:33what you said is key.
37:35I could probably say
37:37yes, I don't know,
37:38there's no way to
37:39know unless I'm
37:40actually examining
37:41him, but radicalized
37:43to the point of an
37:44assassination, no, I
37:46wouldn't say that.
37:47However, once you
37:48have changed the
37:50ideology of a person
37:52and you've
37:53radicalized them,
37:54they are more
37:55susceptible to other
37:56radicalization, so
37:57it's not a pure
38:00black and white
38:01trail of history that
38:02you can find how he
38:03got radicalized.
38:05Now, take this to the
38:06broader scale of what
38:07you're describing here.
38:08You've got mysticism,
38:10you've got politics,
38:11you've got the
38:12Russian agendas, you've
38:13got all kinds of
38:15different themes of
38:17ways in which you can
38:18radicalize people, each
38:20one of them just as
38:21destructive, the
38:22combination of which is
38:23deadly.
38:24Yeah, and that makes
38:25me think a question I
38:27came up with for my
38:28own self as I was
38:29doing this research was
38:32what comes after the
38:33Third Reich, you know,
38:34does that mean
38:35everything's done and
38:36settled?
38:37Well, no, for neo-Nazis,
38:39they still have this
38:40hankering for the
38:41Fourth Reich.
38:42And for them, this
38:44means a Western
38:45Empyrean, aka a
38:47Pan-Aryan world
38:49empire.
38:51So, Devi and the
38:54Nazi Satanist
38:55Miguel Serrano,
38:57Miguel Serrano, I
38:58believe it's pronounced,
39:00they emerged as
39:01proponents of this,
39:03what is now known as
39:04esoteric Hitlerism,
39:06like David Ebo and
39:08other manifest sons of
39:09God-based races.
39:12Serrano said,
39:13there's nothing more
39:14mysterious than blood.
39:16The alchemist
39:17Paracelsus considered it
39:19a condensation of
39:21light.
39:22I believe that
39:23Aryan blood is not
39:25the light of a
39:26galactic sun, but the
39:28light of the black
39:29sun, of the green
39:31ray.
39:31I know you have
39:34plenty to say about
39:35parts of that,
39:36John, but also I
39:38found this very
39:39interesting article,
39:40very current,
39:42June 2025 by
39:45Frank
39:46Lyons,
39:47Lyons, it's L-Y-O-N-S,
39:51it's called The
39:52Coming Right-Wing
39:53Messiah,
39:54quote,
39:54Sturmurk.
39:56Lyons says,
39:57quote,
39:57there is the
39:59unavoidable sense
40:00of something or
40:01someone great and
40:02terrible coming.
40:04He said,
40:06quote,
40:07I am now more
40:08confident than
40:09ever before that
40:10he is coming to
40:12begin a golden
40:13age.
40:16Devi wrote that
40:17this final world
40:18leader, who she
40:19calls Kalki,
40:21will be the
40:21tenth avatar of
40:23Vishnu.
40:24He is equal
40:26parts sun and
40:27lightning,
40:29creator and
40:30destroyer.
40:32The Satanist,
40:33who we already
40:33mentioned,
40:34Devi Meats,
40:35the invocation of
40:37Vindex as,
40:38quote,
40:39the Avenger,
40:41is inspired by
40:42what Devi wrote
40:42about Kalki,
40:44who comes to
40:45destroy non-Aryans.
40:48I hate to say
40:48it, but every time
40:49that you mention
40:50the black sun,
40:51I keep thinking
40:52of the song
40:52Black Hole Sun.
40:54It's going through
40:55my head all the
40:56time.
40:57But, you know,
40:59there's so many
41:00things here that
41:01my mind, when it
41:02gets overwhelmed
41:03with things that
41:04are evil, I go
41:05to my happy place
41:06and my happy
41:07place is music.
41:08And what you're
41:09describing, this is
41:10some scary stuff.
41:11We're talking
41:12about, I'm
41:14looking through
41:14the names that I
41:15have in my list
41:16in my head of
41:18all of the new
41:19Apostolic Reformation
41:20leaders, some of
41:21which you've
41:22mentioned are
41:23openly declaring a
41:24purge, but many
41:25of them who
41:26aren't really
41:27declaring it in
41:27public, but yet
41:28they are in
41:29private.
41:30Jed Hartley, who
41:32does the podcast
41:33with me about
41:34IHOPKC, he says
41:36things on the
41:36podcast that just
41:37my jaw drops to
41:39the floor.
41:39I can't believe
41:40that these are
41:40Christian themes.
41:42And what it is,
41:43these are men
41:45and women who
41:46are taking
41:47political ideologies
41:48that are very
41:49driven towards
41:51purging out any
41:53opposition, mixing
41:55it with
41:55Christianity, and
41:57then trying to
41:58combine this and
41:59say we need to
42:00purge the evil
42:01from this planet,
42:02not realizing,
42:03recognizing that
42:04they are part of
42:05the evil that's
42:06on this planet.
42:07And it all comes
42:08back to the idea
42:09Sophia is supposed
42:11to come down and
42:12bring this divine
42:12unity.
42:13There's different
42:14ways that this
42:15theme comes out in
42:15mysticism.
42:16Well, if you
42:18understand how
42:19that works, it's
42:20almost a summoning
42:22of Sophia.
42:23With these new
42:24apostolic leaders,
42:25it's like a
42:26summoning of God
42:27instead of looking
42:28for Jesus to
42:29return.
42:30It's something they
42:30must do to
42:32forcibly call down
42:33the power of God.
42:35The two are very,
42:36very similar, but
42:37yet one is using
42:38the name Jesus and
42:39one is not using
42:40the name Jesus.
42:42Yeah, that's
42:42right.
42:42That's why if
42:44somebody has the
42:45time to actually
42:47read the larger
42:48book I wrote,
42:49they'll see that
42:50I've divided it
42:51off into a
42:52so-called Christian
42:53version and a
42:54so-called esoteric
42:56version.
42:57And Alice Bailey
42:59is actually,
43:00excuse me,
43:01sort of the
43:01epitome of that
43:02because several
43:05points in her
43:06writing, she
43:06would refer to
43:07herself as a
43:08Christian esotericist.
43:10Oh, okay, she's
43:11both.
43:11Well, no, she's
43:12not both.
43:13She's only one of
43:14those esotericists.
43:16Okay, so I'm
43:18thinking here
43:18again, excuse
43:19the title, but I
43:21just kind of got
43:21off to being a
43:22fifth grade teacher
43:23again.
43:24Is the alt-right
43:26all right or
43:27entirely wrong?
43:28Okay, so forgive
43:29me.
43:30So I found this
43:31article by David
43:33Lawrence, 2018.
43:35It's called
43:36Hindu Mysticism and
43:37the Alt-Right.
43:38Well, that's
43:38getting a lot of
43:39the stuff we're
43:39talking about,
43:40especially if
43:42you're talking
43:42about melting
43:45of ideas and
43:47ideas being
43:47brought into
43:48the Christian
43:49world, although
43:50on extreme
43:51peripheries.
43:54So, Lawrence
43:56says that
43:57Debbie's views
43:58are reaching
43:58a wider
43:59public through
44:00alt-right leaders
44:01such as Richard
44:02Spencer and
44:04Steve Bannon,
44:06Trump's former
44:07chief strategist
44:08Stunt Chair of
44:09Bright Bart News.
44:11Spencer jokingly
44:12deified Trump as
44:14an incarnation of
44:15Kalki, the
44:17destroyer aspect
44:18of the god
44:19Vishnu.
44:20Spencer has
44:21also, quote,
44:22invoked
44:23Debbie by saying
44:25that white people
44:26are the children
44:26of the sun.
44:28Hmm.
44:29So, quote,
44:29a brown, black,
44:30Asian, I guess,
44:32not of the sun.
44:34Another very
44:35excellent thing,
44:37which I think you
44:38could still get
44:38this on YouTube,
44:39was by Maria
44:41Margaronis.
44:43It's called
44:44Savatra Divi,
44:46From the
44:47Arians to the
44:48Alt-Right.
44:49Again, that's
44:50right on center
44:50of what we're
44:51talking about.
44:52According to
44:53this writer,
44:54she says that
44:55Debbie once
44:56prayed for the
44:57Nazi victims
44:58of Nuremberg
45:00trial, who
45:01were unjustly
45:02accused of war
45:03crimes against
45:04humanity.
45:06Debbie said,
45:08mother, dark
45:09blue mother,
45:10avenge them,
45:11avenge them,
45:12avenge them,
45:13the martyrs
45:14of Nuremberg.
45:16She followed
45:17up by saying,
45:18that's Debbie
45:19saying,
45:20Hitler's only
45:21mistake,
45:22he was just
45:23too kind.
45:24And ironically,
45:25in the latter
45:26reign revival,
45:27Branham was
45:27saying,
45:28how blessed
45:28it would be
45:29if Hitler
45:30came and
45:30knocked at
45:31your door.
45:31I grew up
45:32with this.
45:33This was
45:33programmed into
45:34my head.
45:34It was supposed
45:35to be blessed
45:35if Hitler
45:36came to
45:37knock at
45:37the door.
45:38And it's
45:39just, it's
45:39unbelievable
45:40when you
45:40think about
45:41the way
45:43that evil
45:44is viewed
45:45by the
45:45leaders in
45:46this movement
45:46is not the
45:47way that a
45:48normal human
45:49being would
45:50view evil.
45:51You would
45:51usually walk
45:52away from it
45:53and say,
45:53no, I want
45:54no part of
45:54this.
45:55But they
45:55almost glorify
45:56the evil.
45:57Yeah, John,
45:58it is astounding.
46:00There's something
46:00I hate to say,
46:01but it's
46:02sort of
46:03true.
46:04Because I've
46:05been dealing
46:07with this
46:07sort of
46:07information
46:08since, well,
46:09it's been
46:09about 45
46:10years now,
46:12one of my
46:13biggest reactions
46:14at the first
46:15year, you
46:16get reactions
46:16like, you
46:18just can't
46:19believe it,
46:19you know, and
46:20then another
46:20one could be
46:21fear.
46:22One of this
46:23stuff really
46:23plays out.
46:25But not
46:27that they
46:27should dissipate,
46:28but they've
46:29dissipated in a
46:30certain way.
46:31And the
46:32way that I
46:32can reconcile
46:33with my
46:35faith in
46:35Christ, that
46:36they have
46:37dissipated, that
46:38urgency, is
46:41that you
46:43can only do
46:44what you can
46:44do.
46:45And to be
46:46faithful to
46:47Christ is
46:49not fixing the
46:50whole problem,
46:51which you won't
46:52be able to do
46:52that.
46:53And if you
46:54look at
46:55scripture, you
46:56really won't
46:57be able to
46:57do that,
46:58because it
46:59shows sort
47:01of a societal
47:02descent rather
47:03than a societal
47:04ascension, if
47:06that can be
47:07said.
47:09So, since I've
47:10talked about
47:10Jane Lee so
47:11often, the
47:13idea comes up,
47:14did she have
47:15ongoing
47:15revelations that
47:16would lead to
47:17the devil
47:17reborn?
47:19She does
47:19have some
47:20that can be
47:21seen as
47:23predecessors to
47:24racist ideas,
47:26but here's a
47:27couple of
47:28things that she
47:28wrote.
47:29According to
47:30the lettering
47:31participants,
47:32Larry and
47:32Betty Hodges
47:33leads a
47:36revelation of
47:37the everlasting
47:37gospel message,
47:39that's 1697.
47:40it communicates
47:42the message
47:43that full
47:44restitution
47:45includes the
47:46fallen angels.
47:49Yes, even
47:50Lucifer himself.
47:52Now, if you
47:52looked at
47:52much writings
47:55that are
47:55talking about
47:56universal
47:57reconciliation
47:59and all
48:00things coming
48:00together and
48:02everything is
48:05going to be
48:05worked out,
48:07the logical
48:08outcome of
48:08that is that
48:09what do you
48:10about those
48:11really negative
48:13evil sorts of
48:15spiritual forces?
48:16And of course,
48:17if you look
48:17at a lot
48:19of good
48:20writers,
48:21Christian
48:21writers,
48:22you'll see
48:23that you
48:23can't really
48:24reconcile
48:25those two
48:26together.
48:26So, here
48:27goes Leigh
48:28again.
48:29She says
48:30that God
48:30has both
48:31light and
48:32darkness,
48:34good and
48:34evil,
48:36death and
48:37life,
48:38bounded up
48:39in unity
48:40and harmony.
48:42There is a
48:43colossal
48:44mistake,
48:45if you want
48:45to have
48:46give her that
48:47much in
48:48those words.
48:50Then, to
48:52get right to
48:53the latter
48:53range, folks,
48:54this again is
48:55one step
48:57closer to
48:58anti-Semitic
48:59ideas and
49:00these so-called
49:01devil reborn.
49:02And I
49:04just say
49:04that it's
49:04latter range
49:05prophets
49:05influenced by
49:07Jane Leigh's
49:07practice of
49:08ongoing
49:08revelation.
49:10You have
49:11George
49:12Houghton,
49:12highly
49:13influential.
49:14He says
49:15the children
49:15are born
49:15of mixed
49:16couples or
49:16mongrels.
49:18He says
49:18some other
49:19stuff,
49:19but no time
49:20can get us
49:22into that
49:23right here.
49:24Jay
49:24Preston
49:25Eby,
49:25another one
49:26influenced by
49:27Leigh.
49:27God is
49:28both good
49:28and evil,
49:30male and
49:30female.
49:31He also
49:31said that
49:32Jesus called
49:33himself
49:34Lucifer.
49:35Very strange,
49:37but I guess
49:38it has a
49:39reason somewhere.
49:41Roel
49:41Cronquist,
49:42he taught
49:43something that
49:44a lot of
49:44racists teach,
49:46and that's
49:47about the
49:48pre-Adamic
49:48man.
49:50Bill
49:51Britten
49:51authored
49:52Lucifer,
49:53the shining
49:54one.
49:55And he also
49:55taught that
49:56Jesus is
49:57not a
49:57Jew.
49:59David
49:59Ebo,
50:00taught about
50:01the sin
50:02of usury,
50:03which is
50:03a colossal
50:06red flag,
50:08if you want
50:09to put it
50:09like that,
50:10of anti-Jewish
50:12thought.
50:12They're
50:13constantly
50:13talking about
50:14usury.
50:15Ray
50:16Prinzing
50:16said this,
50:18we should
50:18see no
50:19evil in
50:20Satan.
50:21He is
50:22only an
50:22instrument
50:23in the
50:23hands of
50:24God.
50:25Now,
50:25he happened
50:26to be
50:26another one
50:26of those
50:27present truth
50:28manifestants
50:29of God-based
50:30teachers who
50:31came out
50:32of the
50:32latter
50:32rain.
50:33There
50:33you have
50:33him.
50:35Roland
50:35plates
50:36would
50:36fit that
50:37same
50:38description
50:39coming out
50:40of the
50:40latter
50:40rain.
50:41So,
50:41plate
50:42says,
50:43Jesus
50:44will
50:44harmonize
50:45the two
50:46realms
50:46through
50:47himself,
50:48including
50:49all who
50:50follow
50:50Satan
50:50to make
50:52a perfect
50:53new
50:54order.
50:54And there
50:55you have
50:55it.
50:55That's
50:56the
50:56manifestation
50:57of the
50:57Sophia's
50:58one
50:58world
50:58order,
50:59the
50:59perfect
51:00harmony
51:01that is
51:01supposed
51:01to come
51:02down
51:02with
51:02mysticism,
51:03and ironically
51:04the same
51:04exact thing
51:05that the
51:05NAR claims
51:06that they
51:06can do.
51:07If through
51:08militant
51:09pushing
51:10through
51:10politics
51:11and
51:11controlling
51:12governments
51:12and all
51:13of this
51:14mess that
51:14we see
51:14in
51:14Washington
51:15today,
51:16the
51:16end
51:16game
51:16is
51:16the
51:17same.
51:17They
51:17want
51:17the
51:17same
51:18so-called
51:19harmony,
51:20and look
51:20what it
51:21has caused,
51:21wars and
51:22discrimination
51:23and hate
51:24riots.
51:25This is
51:26not a
51:26good
51:26thing,
51:27but each
51:27side
51:27thinks
51:28that
51:28they're
51:28doing
51:28the
51:29work
51:29of
51:30whatever
51:30is
51:30their
51:31god
51:31or
51:32goddess.
51:33Yeah,
51:33and that
51:33leads me
51:34to just
51:35kind of
51:35sum up,
51:36if we
51:37can do
51:37that,
51:37going back
51:38to where
51:38we began,
51:39which is
51:40Savitri
51:41Devi,
51:42because,
51:44again,
51:45probably
51:46or highly
51:47unlikely
51:47are you
51:49going to
51:49run into
51:50a NAR
51:51person who
51:52says,
51:52oh yeah,
51:53I've
51:53studied
51:54Savitri's
51:55stuff,
51:55oh she's
51:55great,
51:56but what
51:57you have
51:57is you
51:58have people
51:59with sort
51:59of stepping
52:00stones,
52:02and that's
52:02what I'm
52:02thinking of,
52:03connective
52:03tissue,
52:05where you
52:05can go
52:05from the
52:06NAR
52:06and into
52:07slightly
52:08deeper
52:08teachings
52:09that maybe
52:10manifest
52:10sons of
52:11god
52:11teachers.
52:13Oh,
52:13and
52:13Kevin
52:14and
52:15Barb
52:16Sisti,
52:17if you
52:18find their,
52:19she's
52:20recently,
52:20they have
52:21recently set
52:22up a
52:22new
52:22podcast
52:24on
52:25YouTube
52:25and
52:26they
52:27deal
52:27with
52:27this.
52:28It's
52:28very
52:28interesting,
52:29very powerful
52:30stuff they're
52:30going with.
52:32So,
52:33but it
52:33leads back
52:34to the
52:34beginning
52:34where I was
52:35talking about
52:36Vitri,
52:37and that
52:38is this
52:39convergence
52:40of taking
52:41the way,
52:42way deep
52:42stuff,
52:43slightly
52:43deep
52:44stuff,
52:45moderately
52:45deep
52:46stuff,
52:47barely
52:47deep
52:47stuff,
52:48and
52:48having
52:49these
52:49roads
52:50or
52:50rungs
52:52along
52:52the
52:52ladder
52:52for you
52:53to
52:53follow.
52:54So,
52:54I put
52:54in that
52:55is the
52:56bridge
52:56to
52:56identity
52:57Christianity
52:58is a
52:59bridge
52:59to the
53:00devil
53:00reborn.
53:01It's
53:01supported
53:02by
53:03ongoing
53:03revelations.
53:05So,
53:05I found
53:05this article
53:06very
53:07fascinating.
53:08I've
53:08referenced
53:09it before,
53:10but it's
53:11by
53:11Viola
53:12Larson
53:13is called
53:13Christian
53:14Identity,
53:15a
53:15so-called
53:16Christian
53:16Religion
53:17for White
53:18Races,
53:191992.
53:20She writes
53:21that since
53:22many identity
53:24inherits
53:25look for
53:26so-called
53:27new truths,
53:28they come
53:29to identity
53:29from teaching
53:30of the
53:32man of
53:32or sons
53:33of God
53:33ministries.
53:35That is a
53:35mouthful
53:36there,
53:36but it
53:37really,
53:37really gets
53:38down to
53:38the nitty
53:39gritty
53:39of what
53:39we're talking
53:40about.
53:41Because
53:42identity
53:43is an
53:45area
53:46that's
53:47receiving
53:48ideas
53:49from
53:50folks
53:50like
53:51Savitri.
53:53And
53:53so,
53:54Larson
53:54also says
53:55that the
53:56identity
53:57movement
53:57can largely
53:58be traced
53:59to one
53:59man,
54:00Wesley
54:00A.
54:01Swift.
54:02Why is
54:02this
54:02significant?
54:04Because
54:04Swift
54:05stood at
54:06a crossroads
54:07between
54:07manifest
54:08sons of
54:08God
54:09teachings
54:09and
54:10full-blown
54:11anti-Semitic
54:12devil-friendly
54:14occult-inspired
54:16ideas.
54:17Now,
54:18this last
54:18quote is
54:19just,
54:20I keep
54:20on the
54:21itch
54:21in my
54:21head and
54:21say,
54:22where did
54:22he pick
54:22this one
54:23up?
54:24But here's
54:24an example
54:25of Swift.
54:26He says
54:27in his
54:27teaching
54:27called
54:28The
54:28Heavenly
54:28Light
54:29that the
54:31quote,
54:31mystery of
54:32law
54:33unites
54:34two
54:34opposites,
54:36one of
54:37satanic
54:37power and
54:39one of
54:39divine
54:40power.
54:40they will
54:42come
54:42together
54:43in
54:43conjunction.
54:45Now,
54:45he might
54:46as well
54:46be writing
54:47a newsletter
54:48for Alistair
54:50Crowley when
54:50he's talking
54:51about that.
54:52I really,
54:53really don't
54:53know where
54:54he got
54:54it.
54:55I can
54:55see what
54:55it sounds
54:56like.
54:57And,
54:58like you
55:00said,
55:01I have
55:01no idea
55:02of really
55:03understanding
55:03where he
55:04got that.
55:05Yeah,
55:05and oddly,
55:06I'm thinking
55:06back through
55:07the things
55:08that I
55:08believe
55:09growing up.
55:11And we
55:11were taught
55:11that the
55:12phrase that
55:14came from
55:15the Bible,
55:15the two
55:15would be
55:16so close
55:16to deceive
55:17the elected.
55:18We gave
55:18far too
55:19much power
55:19to that
55:21side that
55:22was supposed
55:22to be so
55:23close to
55:24the extent
55:24that we
55:25believed that
55:25it would
55:26deceive the
55:26very elected.
55:28And we
55:28thought it
55:28was real
55:29power,
55:29it was
55:30kingdom
55:30power,
55:31whatever you
55:31want to
55:31call it.
55:32I use
55:32kingdom
55:33loosely
55:34there because
55:34John Wimber
55:35said that
55:35these people
55:36who are
55:37clearly
55:37devils,
55:38wolves in
55:39sheep's
55:40clothing,
55:41who are
55:42preying upon
55:42people,
55:43he says
55:43that they're
55:45having the
55:45real thing
55:46because they're
55:46tapping into
55:47that kingdom
55:48power.
55:49And that's
55:49the exact
55:50thing we're
55:50talking about
55:51here.
55:51It's the
55:51convergence
55:52of good
55:52and evil.
55:53And some
55:54of the
55:55leaders in
55:55the movement
55:56have claimed
55:56for many
55:57years that
55:58when you mix
55:59those two,
56:00it's okay
56:00because there's
56:01still some
56:01good mixed
56:02in with
56:02it.
56:03And I
56:03always go
56:03back to
56:04the fact
56:04that if I
56:05were serving
56:05my kids
56:05a birthday
56:06cake and
56:06somebody told
56:07me they
56:08put just a
56:08little bit
56:08of cyanide
56:09in one
56:09corner,
56:10you can
56:11eat the
56:11rest but
56:11that corner,
56:12I'm like,
56:12no, I'm
56:13not going
56:13to let my
56:13kids eat
56:14that.
56:15And that's
56:16what we
56:16have here.
56:17So thank
56:18you so much
56:18for doing
56:19this.
56:20No problem,
56:20John.
56:20Enjoyed it.
56:21Well, if
56:22you've enjoyed
56:22our show and
56:23you want more
56:23information, you
56:24can check us
56:24out on the
56:24web.
56:25You can find
56:26us at
56:26For more
56:28about the
56:28dark side of
56:29the New Apostolic
56:30Reformation, you
56:31can read
56:31Weaponized
56:32Religion from
56:32Christian Identity
56:33to the NAR, and
56:35for more about
56:35the Converging
56:36Apostasy, you
56:37can read the
56:38book The
56:38Converging
56:39Apostasy, and
56:40also a quick
56:41outline on
56:42hands-on
56:42eschatology, a
56:43matter of
56:44timing and
56:44agency.
56:45Weaponized
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