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LIVE NOW: Why does flooding persist in Cebu despite ongoing flood control projects? Architect Edwin San Nicolas, a 35-year industry veteran and former president of the Philippine Institute of Architects Cebu Section, joins us to talk about what’s really behind the city’s flooding problem — and why he believes it’s not just about engineering, but a failure of planning.
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01:59And welcome to Beyond the Headlines.
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02:21I'm Mildred Galarpe.
02:24And I'm DJ Moises.
02:26Today, we tackle a very important subject, Cebu's flooding problem and why our guest says the issue goes deeper than engineering.
02:36Joining us is Architect Edwin Sanicolas, a 35-year industry veteran and former president of both the Philippine Institute of Architects, Cebu section, and UAP.
02:49This is the United Architects of the Philippines' Leon Kilat chapter.
02:54Isong ng mga leon kilat, mga hegala.
02:58Architect San Nicolas believes Cebu's flooding woes are not just about failed flood control projects, but a failure of planning.
03:07We'll hear his insights on what went wrong and what were real solutions are needed to build a safer, more resilient city right here on Beyond the Headlines.
03:17Good afternoon, Architect.
03:47Full of Realizations.
03:48I think you just need somebody to point that out, what is very obvious.
03:56So my first question will be, in a Facebook post, you said that the flooding problem in Cebu is not just a failure of engineering.
04:05So when you say failure of engineering, it can be the projects that's supposed to elevate floods.
04:11So, but a failure of planning, can you elaborate on what you mean by that?
04:19Well, I was in the, at that time, rag, emotional ko pagkwan.
04:24It's not actually a failure of planning.
04:26It's, I think the plans are in place to, to, to, to, parang update na, ano.
04:32Okay.
04:32Because I mentioned in the post na, naanay plano.
04:35Each municipality and cities, especially the big ones have their own comprehensive land use.
04:44Comprehensive land use plan.
04:48It's mandated.
04:49It's mandated by all LGUs.
04:52That will be a guide for the LGU.
04:56Asa ibutang ang industrial area, asa ibutang ang commercial, residential, and it affects our water source.
05:08Asa ibadagan sa ito ang potable water, asa ibadagan ang itong drainage system if we have a drainage system.
05:15So, that's the kwanegate.
05:18It's a failure of implementing actually of the CLUP.
05:26And probably proper monitoring of the CLUP.
05:31Kung ma-implement pag yun, no?
05:33And continuous update on that.
05:35Yes.
05:36Ang akong mahibawaan sa LGU, ang CLUP, ang Comprehensive Land Use Plan, di ba mo, na siya ibasihan for the gastuhan bitaw para sa budget?
05:48Yes, that's one of those.
05:51Go on.
05:52So, it's possible.
05:56It's possible.
05:57Looks like it's happening.
05:58Na-na-na siya ang project ni na, as stated in the CLUP, mag-implement sa LGU, but wala as completely as planned?
06:07Pismill, pismill.
06:08So, what do you think?
06:10What could have happened?
06:11Pwede ingon, ana.
06:13But the CLUP, mag-implement sa LGU, is a general murag map.
06:17And then, let's say, Kinesia is critical for the development.
06:23Like, for example, katong akong gimensyon nga, ang purpose gudat tong ni mitrabaho ni sa Balamban.
06:29Kay, there was a proponent, na Musud ang shipbuilding.
06:34Kay, wala pa mo sila Musud.
06:35That was the real purpose of it.
06:37Kay, they didn't want their water resources, ang ilahang river, all the other.
06:42Kay, like, for example, na kay residential na identified,
07:12okay, this is the residential area to support this industrial area.
07:18So, ma-identify na siya.
07:25Then comes the engineering plans based on the CLUP.
07:29And from the engineering plans comes the budget proposal.
07:34And then, from budget proposal, appropriation, and then appropriation, release, and implementation.
07:41The thing is, that time frame is also very relevant in what is happening.
07:50Most of the projects, sadly, conceptualized, let's say, mauning a year, ma-implement siya seven years, eight years later, where...
08:00Data are getting, it's actually obsolete, unconceptualized.
08:05Which leads me to the next question.
08:07What are the mechanisms man to ensure that the CLUP remains updated over time?
08:15Okay.
08:16Okay.
08:18Katongan mong gibuhat sa Balamban, which was done by the Philippine Institute of Architects, no?
08:24Kanang, naanat siya provision din ha, sa kanang proposed CLUP nga.
08:32After so many years, I think five years, dapat naanay review.
08:40And then, once ma-approve, buhatan mo na o ordinance sa municipality or the city, nga i-implement na siya.
08:47So, once na-na-na-ordinance, based on the CLUP also, there's a provision there nga, okay, after five years or so many years, you have to review because, you know, population grows, the demands or the needs are different.
09:05So, kinahanglan mo, re-align, nai-adjustments, nai-adjustments.
09:11Now, the thing is, I don't know if our koan na-abay continuous.
09:17I would want to believe that they have.
09:20And I think under sa local government code, ang CLUPs, they're being updated every 10 years.
09:28Mag-muna siya i-common.
09:29That's the minimum koan, ang CLUP na plan.
09:33Buhato ni mo 10 years.
09:36Pero ang review is before mo end ang 10 years.
09:4110 years is the projection of the study.
09:45So, that means when you project, ang imun data should also be relevant to the period.
09:51Relevant to the period.
09:52Ngadili siya ma-immediately outdated.
09:55Projections.
09:56A projection.
09:56And the review keeps it current.
09:58Yes.
09:59In fact, looking back right now,
10:01We did it, we did a 10-year plan.
10:07Murad, mubura si Guru de, ay DJ ang 10 years.
10:11On the technical side, ba?
10:12I think especially right now, architect, that things are moving so fast.
10:17Things are moving so fast.
10:18Aside from that, it's more of, we did not factor in the government's actions, ba ang pace nila,
10:30Bitao, from funding to release.
10:32So, Murad, anay na, Bitao?
10:34So, Murad, there was a gap, Murad.
10:36Yes.
10:36Okay, the planning is there, but wala na factor ang process sa pagpalusot sa budget, sa pagpa-fund sa project, o pag-implement sa project,
10:49wala na ilabot if ang new administration, priority ba ito niya or diya?
10:55Yes.
10:55So, going back to your initial question to this one, ba?
11:01So, do you think, in your view, the CLUP will have to adjust to that pace?
11:07Or should the CLUP make that pace faster?
11:14In your view, kay Karol Manggud, muramang tag ka nang mo, adjust na lang.
11:21And the context of the question is in relation to the speed of development.
11:28Siguro, well, number one, siguro ang pagbuhat na ito sa CLUP instead of a minimum of ka nang 10 years.
11:36Like, I've made mention of Mega Cebu in my other post nga,
11:40ang nagkuhan nga, ang gibuhat ang Mega Cebu plan 2013, 2015 itong nagkuhan nga,
11:48pero the target is 2050.
11:51That's how long the projection is.
11:54So, siguro in a CLUP also, it should be not, kuhan, it should be more than 10 years.
12:02And then, that's the first, for the planners, the planner side.
12:07On the government side, na kuhan, I think there should be somehow a,
12:13more about, they have to redo or come up with something to somehow implement the proposed projects sooner,
12:24take away the red tapes.
12:25I don't know how they'd go about it.
12:27Okay.
12:28Familiar ko sa Metro Cebu.
12:29If it's 2050, ang akong question is,
12:34can I say, that's for a Metro Cebu plan?
12:36Are the local government units,
12:40anang members sa appeal, anang Metro Cebu plan,
12:44are also adapting to that?
12:48Ang ilang land use ba?
12:50Connect ba sa anak?
12:51Kay, ba sinyag na ah?
12:53But yet,
12:54walay,
12:55everybody's,
12:57kay Awaha,
12:57mawagin ni siya.
12:58Ikaw,
12:59opposition ka,
13:01napildi ka,
13:02ako'y nakadaog ka ron,
13:03wawagin ko kakakuan,
13:06DJ nga,
13:06there's a proper turnover,
13:08or a continuity nga.
13:09Maunis siya ang nasa si LUP na to,
13:12ngayon na,
13:12waw,
13:13maglilain o priorities ang kada administration.
13:17So,
13:19now,
13:19with what happened sa Tino,
13:21makita na ni na,
13:22maybe not the lack of plan,
13:30but sticking to the plan.
13:31Yeah.
13:32Maybe.
13:33Pag-implement ato niya.
13:34Pero,
13:36my follow-up question,
13:39based sa iimong nakita,
13:40I mean,
13:40you yourself,
13:41you participated in the drafting of the CLUP for Balamban,
13:45right?
13:45In the case of a local government unit,
13:47can you cite examples where,
13:50makita ni mo that there is an uncoordial,
13:52coordinated planning directly led to flooding or drainage failures in Cebu?
13:58With regards to drainage,
14:02Oh, naabata.
14:03Naabata'y plan.
14:04Naabata'y system in the first place.
14:07Well,
14:07ang atong drainage dairy,
14:10the term actually drainage good,
14:13it's supposed to be,
14:14moran na siya,
14:15storm drainage,
14:16it's collecting.
14:17Ang kineng atong mga kanal ka ron
14:20are actually receiving,
14:21kananggikan sa itong sa tiktang,
14:23kananggikan sa itong kusina,
14:24kanangkuhan,
14:25which is supposed to be different.
14:27It's supposed to be a sewer system.
14:29So,
14:29that's two different things.
14:32Ang ato a karon is combined.
14:36So,
14:37the plans,
14:39naabakoy makitaan nga sa CLUP,
14:41medyo complicated magura siya,
14:43I don't really,
14:44I haven't seen
14:45giyunsa nila pag-implement.
14:48No?
14:51Unfortunately,
14:52bisan pag-muingong kong siguro naagyud sila gibuhat,
14:56but what's happening in Cebu City
14:58and Mandawi City
14:59and what we've experienced,
15:01nagkuhan,
15:01that there's a failure.
15:03Somewhere,
15:05somehow,
15:06there must have been
15:08a
15:08deferment of a certain project
15:11from the CLUP
15:13or
15:14things like that.
15:16I would want to,
15:19Kwan,
15:19also,
15:20those guys nga,
15:21they're doing
15:23their efforts
15:24bang i-implement
15:26bitaw niya
15:27because of the bureaucracy
15:29matabunan na siya ba?
15:32Plus the politics.
15:33Plus the politics.
15:34The politics actually
15:35is one very big,
15:37very crucial issue.
15:38And just for perspective,
15:40if we look at
15:40the flooding situation
15:42now in general
15:43and now that we've also been
15:45talking about
15:46kind of CLUPs,
15:48in your view,
15:50what was the main
15:52contributor,
15:53Mangyud,
15:54the reason why
15:55we had so much flooding
15:56during that typhoon?
15:57Is it planning?
16:00Is it infrastructure?
16:03Is it nature?
16:05Or is it governance?
16:07Kwan lang.
16:08How you put it
16:10into perspective.
16:11Kaya karun Manggun murag,
16:11we're looking at
16:12so many
16:13and then if we see it
16:14on the feed,
16:14that's the flood control,
16:17that's the water shed,
16:19that's the water shed,
16:20that's the water shed.
16:21So,
16:22what's the thing
16:22in the overall,
16:24in your view,
16:25that contributed
16:26to why there's
16:27just so much water?
16:31Personally,
16:32it's uncontrolled development.
16:35I think that would be the,
16:37Kwan.
16:37There's a,
16:38overall Kwan.
16:40It's overdevelopment.
16:42the government
16:44or I would say
16:46the private sector
16:47supplying the demand
16:51of the society,
16:52of our metropolis,
16:54we need a lot
16:55more housing.
16:57That's a given.
16:58Kwan.
16:59And because of the demand,
17:02business sector
17:04comes in
17:04because
17:05they're
17:05supported.
17:06They support it
17:07and at the same time
17:08they're profit-oriented.
17:09Now,
17:10we don't have
17:11the flatlands.
17:13So,
17:14we go up.
17:15So,
17:16once we develop
17:17the upper Kwan,
17:18it's supposed to be
17:19part of the CLUP
17:20restrictions
17:21to develop.
17:22Now,
17:24it's either
17:25sayo
17:26or kuwang
17:27atong data
17:28pag-develop
17:29sa Aplan,
17:30nga ilahang basihan
17:32garon,
17:33but since
17:33kusug kaayo
17:34o niya hinay
17:35ang
17:35the government side
17:37on the infrastructure
17:38development,
17:40I think
17:42that's where
17:42the failure
17:43came in.
17:44Like,
17:45Kwan,
17:45blame na nila
17:46si Slater,
17:47di ba?
17:47In fairness of Slater,
17:49I think the plans
17:50are,
17:50I would say
17:51it's sound
17:52and Kwan,
17:52but the thing is,
17:54bisa kung sa panakanindot
17:55ng imong water
17:55retention din ha
17:56and everything
17:57with all
17:58but the ones
17:59accepting the
18:00downstream below
18:02is not ready.
18:05It's practically
18:06wala.
18:08So,
18:09related to that
18:10lang,
18:11okay,
18:11I've also seen
18:12this inputs
18:13also coming from
18:15different people.
18:17So,
18:17in your view,
18:18Sad,
18:19because people
18:19have opinions
18:20about urbanization,
18:22rapid urbanization,
18:23so we now have
18:24more concrete roads,
18:26we have taller
18:27or higher buildings,
18:28and we have
18:29lots of subdivision.
18:31So,
18:32how,
18:32para to educate
18:33them lang ba?
18:34So,
18:34how are these
18:35developments
18:36contribute to
18:37reducing the city's
18:39water absorption
18:41and also
18:43increasing the
18:44runoff
18:45of the water?
18:47Okay,
18:49it's very obvious
18:49since the development
18:51is going upwards.
18:53So,
18:53we have
18:54forests
18:55and the
18:55covers,
18:57the bushes
18:59are gone,
19:01reduced the water
19:05runoff.
19:06It's not
19:07as long as
19:07we have
19:08become a
19:09waterproof
19:09area.
19:13So,
19:14definitely,
19:15that's a very,
19:16very good one.
19:17So,
19:17the data
19:17before,
19:19I would like
19:19to assume,
19:20okay,
19:20water runoff
19:21is different
19:32from 25 years ago.
19:34let's say,
19:34say,
19:35for example,
19:35they have the data
19:3625-30 years ago,
19:40water runoff
19:41is different
19:46from 25 years ago.
19:48and what if
19:49they're basing
19:50the data
19:51from that,
19:53really,
19:54erroneous
19:54the volume
19:55of water
19:56coming
19:56or passing
19:58through the...
19:59So,
19:59in that
20:00regard,
20:02once I
20:02suggest
20:03for a
20:05short-term
20:05fix,
20:07okay,
20:07we do not know,
20:08there might be
20:10a typhoon
20:11coming.
20:11Now,
20:12it's low pressure
20:12and it's low pressure.
20:13So,
20:13when I say,
20:14short-term,
20:14it's low pressure
20:15for now.
20:18So,
20:18short-term,
20:19we're talking
20:20about long-term
20:21fixes,
20:21man.
20:22Are there
20:22any short-term
20:23fixes
20:24or
20:25low-hanging
20:26fruits
20:27that we can do?
20:29First,
20:29I think
20:30it was part
20:30of my
20:31at the ending
20:32of my
20:32post,
20:33which is,
20:34I think,
20:34very crucial
20:35that the
20:36people
20:36will allow
20:38it to
20:39or the
20:39government
20:40or the
20:40LGU
20:41that
20:41they will
20:42throw
20:42the
20:42sides
20:43in the
20:43side.
20:43I mean,
20:44no offense
20:45to the
20:45people
20:46who are
20:46in the
20:47people
20:47who are
20:47poor.
20:49But,
20:49you know,
20:51if
20:51one
20:52if
20:52one
20:53can
20:54find
20:55some
20:55place,
20:56I'm
20:56sure
20:56those
20:56guys
20:57can
20:57find
20:57some
20:57place.
20:58But isn't
21:02it more
21:03irresponsible
21:04to put
21:05them,
21:05because we
21:06know that
21:06they'll
21:06be in
21:07danger?
21:08Yeah,
21:08that's the
21:09thing.
21:09At the
21:11end of
21:11the day,
21:12it's the
21:12votes.
21:14I remember
21:15one time
21:16when
21:17Marcelo
21:18Fernand
21:18was
21:19constructed.
21:21I was
21:22privileged
21:22to have
21:22a pass
21:24that he
21:24can
21:25publicly
21:25publicly
21:26I
21:26saw
21:28on the
21:30left
21:31side
21:31on the
21:31left
21:32side
21:32and
21:32I
21:32called
21:35a
21:36friend
21:37to
21:37go
21:38and
21:39go
21:40and
21:41go
21:42and
21:43go
21:43and
21:45behold,
21:45look at
21:46them
21:46now.
21:47They've
21:47grown
21:47like
21:47mushrooms
21:48and
21:48go
21:48on.
21:50If
21:50during
21:50that
21:51time,
21:51ako
21:51an
21:52ordinary
21:52architect
21:53who
21:53passed
21:54there
21:54because
21:54I
21:54had
21:54a
21:54privilege
21:55to
21:55see
21:56the
21:56government
21:56officials.
21:57I would
21:57definitely
21:59assume
22:00that
22:00they've
22:01seen
22:02this.
22:02They've
22:03seen
22:03this.
22:03I think
22:04that's
22:05one of
22:05the
22:05low-hanging
22:06fruits
22:07that
22:07should
22:09be
22:09done.
22:10Typhoons
22:10will
22:11be
22:11there.
22:12Yes,
22:12but
22:12it's
22:13not
22:13as long.
22:13It's
22:14only
22:14it's
22:15on the
22:15river.
22:16If
22:17along
22:18the
22:18river
22:18banks,
22:19if
22:20it's
22:20concrete
22:20and
22:21it's
22:21not
22:22it takes
22:25time
22:25for
22:25it
22:25to
22:26build.
22:26So
22:26it's
22:26not
22:26there.
22:26You
22:27can't
22:27back to
22:29our
22:29officials.
22:30Why
22:30are
22:31they
22:31not
22:31in
22:32what
22:33to
22:33nilagi
22:33pa
22:33unda?
22:34What
22:34in
22:34it
22:35tabo?
22:36When
22:36you
22:36said
22:37earlier
22:37of
22:38this
22:38uncontrolled
22:39development,
22:39this
22:40means
22:41we
22:41fail
22:42the
22:43two
22:44months
22:44to
22:44CLUP
22:45because
22:45CLUP
22:46designates
22:47the
22:47areas
22:48where
22:48development
22:48should
22:48happen.
22:50Not
22:50necessarily.
22:51it
22:52could
22:53be
22:53part
22:53of
22:53the
22:53CLUP
22:54that
22:54this
22:55mountain
22:55here
22:56could
22:56be
22:56residential
22:57area.
22:58It
22:59could
22:59be
22:59part
23:00of
23:00the
23:00plan.
23:01And
23:01absorption
23:02and
23:02runoff
23:03were already
23:04taken
23:04into account
23:06and the
23:06downstream
23:07is
23:08gone.
23:09But
23:10I
23:10remember
23:11that
23:12the
23:12bucket
23:13was
23:14the
23:15quote
23:16quote
23:16that
23:16they
23:17were
23:18the
23:18central
23:20Cebu
23:20protected
23:21landscape
23:21because
23:22it
23:22used
23:22to be
23:23national
23:23park
23:23because
23:25of
23:27the
23:27developments
23:28that
23:28they
23:28have
23:29title
23:30so
23:31protected
23:35area
23:36for
23:36controlled
23:37activity
23:37but
23:38there's
23:38a subdivision
23:39there
23:40so
23:42within
23:42the
23:42watershed
23:43area
23:43because
23:43it's
23:46in a
23:46fault
23:46line
23:47how
23:47did
23:47it
23:47ever
23:47happen
23:48there
23:49is
23:49the
23:49map
23:50there
23:50is
23:51the
23:52map
23:53right
23:54I don't
23:56have
23:56the
23:57unfortunately
24:00our
24:00politics
24:01in the
24:02Philippines
24:03we have
24:03what we
24:05call
24:05accommodation
24:06legal
24:06accommodations
24:07and all
24:08those
24:08stuffs
24:09like you
24:11said
24:12those
24:12are
24:12titled
24:12lots
24:13so
24:15but
24:16Bisanturo
24:17titled
24:18not
24:18sila
24:19because
24:19they're
24:19in the
24:20protected
24:21area
24:21they're
24:22supposed
24:22to be
24:23limitations
24:25you
24:28also
24:28that's
24:30a good
24:30input
24:30when you
24:31said
24:31about
24:32those
24:32situated
24:33already
24:34on the
24:34riverbanks
24:35and it
24:36would
24:36take
24:36political
24:37will
24:37for that
24:38to be
24:39corrected
24:39that's
24:40example
24:40of a
24:41low
24:41hanging
24:41fruit
24:41I've
24:42also
24:42heard
24:43people
24:43and
24:43your
24:43technical
24:44expertise
24:45can
24:45also
24:45come
24:45in
24:45handy
24:46they
24:46also
24:47wondered
24:47why
24:48in
24:48sections
24:49like
24:49Compostela
24:50even
24:51Liloan
24:52and even
24:53Danau
24:53they're
24:54so
24:54close
24:54to
24:55the
24:55water
24:55but
24:57they're
24:57flooded
24:57why
24:59and so
25:00some
25:00of the
25:00people
25:01were
25:01saying
25:02there
25:03could
25:03have
25:03been
25:04just
25:04you
25:05don't
25:06have
25:07to
25:07go
25:07all
25:07the
25:08way
25:08to
25:08Danau
25:08you
25:09can
25:10just
25:10go
25:10to
25:10SRP
25:11remember
25:13the
25:13flooding
25:13in
25:13front
25:14of
25:14SM
25:15right
25:17across
25:17the
25:17road
25:17it
25:18then
25:19go
25:20no
25:20it's
25:21it's
25:22the
25:22sea
25:22water
25:23intrusion
25:25nga
25:25ang
25:26water
25:26level
25:27ang
25:27imong
25:27balimrog
25:28I
25:28remember
25:28si
25:29Dr.
25:30Faye
25:30Walag
25:31used to
25:31be
25:32sa
25:32USC
25:34Water
25:34Resource
25:35Center
25:35to
25:36gain
25:36na
25:36sila
25:37campaign
25:37na
25:37nga
25:38ang
25:38water
25:40sea
25:40water
25:41intrusion
25:42sa
25:42Cebu
25:43na
25:43nas Kapitulyo
25:44that's
25:45on our
25:46water supply
25:47also
25:47water supply
25:47every
25:49time
25:49so
25:50ang imong
25:50magtubig
25:52mag
25:52baha
25:53naka
25:53ditch
25:54sa
25:55high
25:55tide
25:56di
25:56naging
25:56out
25:57out
25:57what
25:57na
25:58dili
25:58na
25:58ka
25:59to
25:59sa
25:59dagat
25:59ba
25:59okay
26:00one
26:00problem
26:01I could
26:01see
26:02nga nung
26:02di
26:02na
26:02siya
26:03kagawas
26:03we have
26:04those
26:04kanang
26:05ba-ba
26:05sa
26:05itong
26:06kwa
26:06no
26:06sa
26:06itong
26:06river
26:07if
26:09you
26:09have
26:09denuded
26:10areas
26:11upstream
26:12wala
26:12na
26:12tong
26:12mga
26:13covers
26:13nato
26:14sa
26:14kwan
26:14so
26:14ang
26:15runoff
26:15is
26:16kusog
26:16na
26:16so
26:17runoff
26:18then
26:19we
26:19have
26:20soil
26:20erosyon
26:20so
26:22the
26:22siltation
26:23of
26:23the
26:23kwan
26:24is
26:24paspas
26:26mubaga
26:26then
26:28I
26:29remember
26:29before
26:30kanang
26:30mananga
26:31that's
26:31one
26:31of
26:31the
26:31sources
26:32of
26:32sun
26:33and
26:33gravel
26:33pero
26:35ang
26:35negosyanti
26:36said
26:36mukotkot
26:37sa
26:37kwan
26:38di
26:38rin
26:38upstream
26:39kai
26:39maumay
26:40magamit
26:41sa
26:41construction
26:41no
26:41no
26:41no
26:41it's
26:42limpio
26:42whereas
26:43downstream
26:44di
26:44rin
26:44na
26:44do
26:45mananga
26:45bridge
26:45and
26:46kwan
26:46lapok
26:47kai
26:47naglutaw
26:48man
26:48kwan
26:49so
26:49dili
26:49ito
26:49madredge
26:50now
26:51once
26:51dito
26:51madredge
26:52nisaka
26:52ang
26:52elevation
26:53dito
26:53so
26:54pag
26:54saka
26:55elevation
26:55siyempre
26:56hinay
26:57those
26:59are
27:00yeah
27:00loaring
27:01fruits
27:01again
27:01yeah
27:02we
27:04see it
27:05so
27:05simply
27:05but
27:06yet
27:06ang
27:07impact
27:07niya
27:07ano
27:08na
27:08nai
27:08mo
27:08ma
27:08feel
27:09kung
27:09there's
27:09that
27:09storm
27:10that
27:10I
27:11think
27:11that's
27:11that's
27:11one
27:11of
27:12the
27:12kwan
27:12karun
27:13lang
27:13I'm
27:13thinking
27:14since
27:16provincial
27:17government
27:18is
27:18giving
27:19permits
27:20to
27:20these
27:21queries
27:21and
27:21then
27:22appeal
27:22man
27:22na
27:22nga
27:23appeal
27:23man
27:23na
27:23sa
27:23query
27:24siguro
27:25as
27:26a low
27:26hanging
27:27fruit
27:27kinalang
27:28offhand
27:28unsolicited
27:30kwan
27:30nanako
27:31siguro
27:32magkoy
27:32kway
27:32kway
27:32kway
27:33kway
27:33kway
27:34kway
27:34kway
27:34kway
27:35kway
27:36kway
27:37kway
27:38kway
27:39kway
27:40kway
27:41kway
27:42kway
27:43kway
27:44kway
27:45kway
27:46yes
27:46I'll
27:47give
27:47you
27:47a
27:47permit
27:47you
27:48get
27:48the
27:49cleaner
27:49version
27:50but
27:51you
27:51clean
27:51up
27:52yes
27:52aside
27:53from
27:54of
27:54course
27:54long
27:55term
27:55let's
27:57siguro
27:57to
27:58reduce
27:58the
27:59soil
27:59erosion
27:59cover
28:01cover
28:01to
28:02balik
28:02kwan
28:03so
28:04every
28:05year
28:05makadumog
28:06yung
28:06mga
28:06different
28:07ngos
28:08na
28:08kanang
28:09mag
28:09triplanting
28:10triplanting
28:11gina
28:12dog
28:12triplanting
28:13anyway
28:14you
28:15mentioned
28:16that
28:16by
28:16katong
28:162010
28:17only
28:17about
28:185%
28:19of
28:19the
28:19jika
28:19drainage
28:20plan
28:20for
28:21metro
28:22cebu
28:22yeah
28:22that's
28:23what
28:23as far
28:24as I
28:24can
28:24remember
28:24that's
28:25what
28:25we
28:25saw
28:26the
28:26the
28:275%
28:28is
28:28more
28:29on
28:29the
28:29I
28:29was
28:29referring
28:30to
28:31more
28:31on
28:31the
28:31cebu
28:31city
28:32and
28:33probably
28:33the
28:33neighboring
28:34kwan
28:34said
28:35kini
28:35sa
28:35mandawe
28:36kaya
28:36kita
28:37mang
28:37yung
28:37luha
28:38ang
28:38inter-connected
28:41yung
28:41kayo
28:41bang
28:41ang
28:42tubig
28:43gikan
28:44sa
28:44talamban
28:44muna
28:45o
28:46Santo
28:46Nino
28:47village
28:47pag
28:48labang
28:49pag
28:50labang
28:50Santo
28:50Nino
28:51village
28:51mandawe
28:52naman
28:52so
28:54that's
28:56where
28:56we
28:56actually
28:57mautong
28:57nagstudy
28:58ito
28:58with
28:59engineer
28:59Sanchez
29:00at that
29:00time
29:01was
29:01tungod
29:02anang
29:02flooding
29:02sa
29:03AS42
29:03na
29:04rainwater
29:09catchments
29:09we
29:10were
29:10surprised
29:11we
29:12were
29:12surprised
29:13nga
29:13kuan
29:13they're
29:14blessed
29:14nga
29:15wala
29:15nagbaha
29:16ang
29:16AS42
29:17na
29:17pag
29:18Tino
29:18probably
29:21the
29:21water
29:22most of
29:22the
29:22water
29:22were
29:23coming
29:23from
29:23the
29:23other
29:24side
29:24and
29:25Cebu
29:25City
29:25was
29:25paired
29:26with
29:26the
29:26heavy
29:26rain
29:27most
29:27likely
29:28kaya
29:28may
29:28tubig
29:28pero
29:29actually
29:29ang
29:30people
29:30sa
29:30mandawe
29:31said
29:31ang
29:31water
29:32gikan
29:32sa
29:32Cebu
29:33City
29:33well
29:33you
29:34know
29:34whether
29:34asagikan
29:35ang
29:35tubig
29:36water
29:37will
29:37always
29:38find
29:38its
29:38way
29:38but
29:39if
29:39obstruct
29:40that
29:40name
29:41you
29:41will
29:41sing
29:42it
29:42because
29:44San
29:45Tonino
29:46village
29:46I don't
29:48know
29:48if
29:48San
29:49Carlos
29:49Macca
29:50is
29:50the
29:51lake
29:51is
29:52aquarium
29:56fish
29:56sink
29:58hole
29:58in
29:58lake
29:59we
30:00don't
30:00know
30:01how
30:01it
30:01is
30:01going
30:01to
30:03lake
30:03this
30:08is
30:08the
30:08mandawe
30:08side
30:09di
30:09ba
30:09luyo
30:09santo
30:10ninyo
30:10yes
30:11yes
30:11na
30:11flooded
30:12na
30:12yakas
30:12ang
30:13huan
30:14ang
30:14tubig
30:15since
30:16there's
30:17siltation
30:18heavy
30:18siltation
30:19so
30:19katong
30:20natural
30:20waterway
30:21niya
30:21ng
30:21huan
30:22na
30:22clog
30:22so
30:22caning
30:27problem
30:28with
30:29master
30:29DJ
30:31sa
30:31akong
30:31kadugay
30:32sa
30:32journalism
30:32tagana
30:33kay
30:33master
30:34plan
30:34ng
30:34gawas
30:35we
30:35spend
30:35millions
30:36pero
30:36if
30:37we're
30:38having
30:38all
30:38these
30:38master
30:39plans
30:39the
30:39question
30:40is
30:40why
30:41these
30:42things
30:42are
30:42still
30:42happening
30:43so
30:43is
30:44caning
30:44mga
30:44problems
30:45na to
30:45karun
30:45is
30:46this
30:46primarily
30:47a
30:47political
30:47problem
30:48or
30:48more
30:49of
30:49an
30:49institutional
30:50or
30:50budgetary
30:51one
30:51wala
30:54na
30:54construct
30:55wala
30:55na
30:56himo
30:56wala
30:56na
30:56buhat
30:57I
30:58think
31:01I
31:01would
31:01go to
31:02the
31:02government
31:03because
31:04the
31:04plans
31:05are
31:06there
31:06for
31:06them
31:07to
31:07implement
31:07and
31:09they
31:11are
31:11the
31:12ones
31:12allocating
31:13the
31:13budget
31:13and
31:13they
31:14are
31:14the
31:14ones
31:14who
31:15will
31:15somehow
31:16find
31:17or
31:17look
31:17for
31:18the
31:18private
31:18sector
31:19to
31:19implement
31:19the
31:20project
31:20in
31:20a
31:21contract
31:21so
31:21yeah
31:24it
31:24goes
31:25back
31:25to
31:25whoever
31:26is
31:26governance
31:27okay
31:27like
31:28for
31:28example
31:28when I
31:29can see
31:31a
31:31wall
31:31at the
31:34foot
31:34of
31:34the
31:35bridge
31:35it's
31:36a
31:36common
31:36knowledge
31:37I
31:37don't
31:37have
31:38the
31:38authority
31:38to
31:39tell
31:39that
31:39guy
31:39or
31:41this
31:43somebody
31:44a
31:44concerned
31:45citizen
31:45along
31:46the
31:46river
31:46bank
31:46makakita
31:47nga
31:47pag
31:47humans
31:48sa
31:48riprap
31:48ng
31:49ilang
31:49gibohat
31:49he
31:53doesn't
31:56have
31:56the
31:57authority
31:57or
31:58the
31:58quan
31:58to
31:59make
32:00badlong
32:00igor
32:01sumbong
32:02sa barangay
32:02and if
32:03the
32:03barangay
32:03is not
32:04doing
32:04something
32:04about
32:05it
32:05mudaghan
32:06which
32:07is
32:07happening
32:08now
32:08actually
32:08the
32:09failure
32:11probably
32:12is
32:12pointing
32:14back
32:14to
32:14the
32:15unfortunately
32:15it's
32:16it's
32:16that's
32:18an
32:18example
32:18it's
32:18a
32:19common
32:19knowledge
32:19it's
32:20just
32:20a
32:20matter
32:20of
32:21enforcement
32:21yes
32:22so
32:22similar
32:23there's
32:23a
32:24plan
32:24in
32:24place
32:25it's
32:25a
32:25matter
32:25of
32:26implementing
32:26and
32:27follow
32:27through
32:27is
32:27that
32:28what
32:28you're
32:28saying
32:28yeah
32:29because
32:29there are
32:31also
32:32viewers
32:32like me
32:33who are not
32:33very familiar
32:34about
32:35this
32:35multiple
32:36plans
32:38so can
32:39you help
32:39us
32:39understand
32:40about
32:41these
32:42several
32:42programs
32:43I'm
32:43speaking
32:43about
32:44the
32:44Mega
32:44Sabu
32:45Master
32:45Plan
32:46which
32:47was
32:47advocated
32:49by the
32:50governor
32:51and
32:51then
32:51there's
32:52also
32:52the
32:52Metro
32:53Cebu
32:53Flood
32:54Drainage
32:55System
32:55Master
32:56Plan
32:56which
32:57also
32:57the
32:57vice
32:57governor
32:58discussed
32:59on the
32:59same
33:00day
33:00as
33:00a
33:00solution
33:01and
33:01then
33:02there's
33:02also
33:02the
33:03NOAA
33:03project
33:04under
33:04Governor
33:05Davide
33:06can you
33:09explain
33:10what
33:10these
33:11are
33:11in a
33:12nutshell
33:12wait
33:13ah
33:13they
33:15don't
33:16coordinate
33:17some
33:17efforts
33:19go
33:19back
33:20because
33:20this
33:21is
33:21not
33:21the
33:21brilliant
33:22idea
33:22these
33:23master
33:24plans
33:24panahon
33:26ni
33:26former
33:27governor
33:27Indigulias
33:28naana
33:29ni
33:29in
33:29town
33:29ni
33:29si
33:30Lito
33:31Osman
33:32niya
33:32ang akong
33:32naaptan
33:33na
33:33Kuan
33:34si
33:35RDP
33:36ba
33:36ito
33:36si
33:36BDR
33:38pinakalimot
33:38na ganin
33:39ko
33:39but
33:40MCDP
33:41no
33:41MCDP
33:42MCDP
33:43the MCDP
33:43project
33:44panahon
33:45pa na
33:46si
33:46as
33:47governor
33:47si
33:47Kuan
33:48it
33:48was only
33:49Tumas
33:49it
33:50was
33:50during
33:50the
33:51time
33:51of
33:51Tomas
33:51nga
33:51bi-execute
33:52na
33:52na
33:52so
33:52all
33:53these
33:53plans
33:53before
33:54tamugas
33:55took
33:55another
33:55millions
33:56of
33:56pesos
33:56pwede
33:57mo
33:57tanaw
33:58sa taas
33:58atong
33:58library
33:59on
33:59sa man
33:59tong
33:59existing
34:00plans
34:00before
34:01sige
34:01sige
34:02you
34:02are
34:02involved
34:03in
34:03some
34:03of
34:03those
34:03inside
34:04the
34:04library
34:04so
34:05kano
34:05must
34:05understand
34:06yes
34:06i'm sure
34:06i actually
34:10posted
34:11last night
34:12in
34:13in
34:14morabag
34:15response
34:15to
34:16sa
34:16nakit
34:16anak
34:17kong
34:17post
34:17sa
34:17vice
34:18governor
34:18regarding
34:19metro
34:20sebu
34:21flood
34:21flood
34:21control
34:22master
34:23plan
34:242013
34:26and
34:28then
34:28nagkuwansed
34:29si
34:30pam
34:30iyang
34:31i-revive
34:31ang
34:32mega
34:32sebu
34:33blueprint
34:33yes
34:34okay
34:35let's
34:37just
34:37look at
34:38it
34:38in
34:38that
34:38context
34:38di
34:39nalang
34:39ganin
34:39kumugo
34:39further
34:41below
34:41so
34:42many
34:42years
34:42ang
34:43katulang
34:43akong
34:43dimensyon
34:442010
34:44tungod
34:47in
34:47the
34:48through
34:48the
34:49effort
34:49of
34:49Rafi
34:50the
34:51Ramon
34:51Aboytis
34:51foundation
34:52through
34:53Bobby
34:54Aboytis
34:55convened
34:56all
34:57these
34:57LGUs
34:58from
34:59Carcar
34:59to
35:00to
35:01Danau
35:01all
35:02the
35:02cities
35:03and
35:03all
35:03the
35:04municipalities
35:04within
35:05that
35:05mauna
35:07siya
35:07ang
35:08gisgutan
35:08ni
35:08Pam
35:09Baricuatro
35:10nga
35:10na
35:10ay
35:11Mega
35:12Cebu
35:12master
35:13plan
35:14ang
35:15kanang
35:15gisulti
35:15ni
35:16ni
35:16Vice
35:17Gov
35:17is
35:18actually
35:19part
35:19of
35:20that
35:20Mega
35:21Cebu
35:22master
35:23plan
35:23it's
35:24not
35:24a
35:24separate
35:24thing
35:25it
35:25was
35:26also
35:26because
35:27JICA
35:28was
35:28the
35:28one
35:29helping
35:30in
35:31the
35:31planning
35:32Bili
35:34mo na
35:34Musud
35:34ang
35:34JICA
35:35without
35:35invitation
35:36no
35:36they
35:37came
35:37in
35:38because
35:38of
35:39that
35:39agreement
35:40which
35:41came
35:42about
35:43after
35:44the
35:44convene
35:46ni
35:46ni
35:47Aboytis
35:48all the
35:49stakeholders
35:49sa
35:50mga
35:50LGUs
35:51Pag
35:522011
35:53they
35:53came
35:53into
35:54an
35:54agreement
35:55nagpinirmahin
35:55na sila
35:56I
35:56posted
35:56I
35:56placed
35:57the
35:57link
35:58there
35:58of
35:58unsana
35:59ang
35:59Mega
36:00Cebu
36:01project
36:02nga
36:03nga
36:03nabuhat
36:04yun
36:04na tiwas
36:05morag
36:062015
36:07mga
36:08to
36:08pag
36:08post
36:09nila
36:09sa
36:09Rafi
36:10it
36:11explains
36:11their
36:12unsay
36:12purpose
36:14and
36:15it's
36:16not
36:17these
36:17are
36:17not
36:17two
36:18different
36:18plans
36:19it's
36:20part
36:20of
36:21the
36:21overall
36:22master
36:24plan
36:24can you
36:25articulate
36:25what's
36:26what's
36:27the
36:27content
36:27of
36:28the
36:28Mega
36:28Cebu
36:28master
36:29plan
36:29in a
36:31nutshell
36:31lang
36:31well
36:33primary
36:34purpose
36:35here's
36:35the
36:35purpose
36:37of
36:37that
36:38well
36:39the
36:40master
36:40plan
36:40is
36:40the
36:41whole
36:41of
36:42Cebu
36:42and
36:44by the
36:44way
36:44for
36:44calibration
36:45when you
36:45say
36:46whole
36:46of
36:46Cebu
36:46this
36:47is
36:47Carcar
36:47to
36:47Danau
36:48this
36:49is
36:50the
36:50eastern
36:50part
36:51and
36:51I
36:52don't
36:52know
36:52updated
36:53version
36:54of
36:55it
36:55they're
36:58very
36:58close
36:59western
36:59seaboard
37:01but the
37:04LGU's
37:04participating
37:05at
37:05that
37:06time
37:06Carcar
37:06to
37:07Danau
37:07lang
37:07appeal
37:08ang
37:08Mactan
37:09Cordoba
37:09is one
37:10municipality
37:10they signed
37:13a
37:14memorandum
37:15and then
37:16tungod
37:17atong
37:17MC
37:18they call
37:18it
37:19Metro
37:20Cebu
37:20Development
37:21Board
37:22Coordinating
37:23Board
37:24MC
37:25DCB
37:26okay
37:26pag
37:28create nila
37:28ito
37:29nagpinirmahe
37:29sila
37:30o agreement
37:30tungod
37:31nga
37:32naana
37:32siya
37:32morag
37:33consortium
37:33or
37:34what's
37:34the
37:34term
37:34morag
37:35nanay
37:35body
37:36nga
37:37nag
37:37plano
37:38came in
37:39JICA
37:39kaya
37:40nanamay
37:40invitation
37:41nanamay
37:42nanamay
37:43group
37:44nanay
37:44body
37:44nga
37:45kwan
37:45now
37:46gibuhat
37:46ang
37:46plano
37:47so
37:48JICA
37:48came in
37:49with all
37:49the
37:49technical
37:49guys
37:50different
37:51agencies
37:52involved
37:53ang
37:54next
37:55nga
37:55kwan
37:55para
37:56ni
37:56siya
37:57mo
37:57ma
37:58implement
37:59ni
37:59siya
38:00and
38:01somebody
38:01to
38:02monitor
38:02it
38:02there
38:03was
38:04a
38:04proposed
38:04MCDA
38:06Metro
38:07Cebu
38:07Development
38:08Authority
38:09kay
38:10kinsa
38:11man
38:11may
38:11mo
38:11overseen
38:12somebody
38:13Cebu
38:14City
38:14could
38:14say
38:15di
38:16ko
38:16pwede
38:16di
38:16na
38:17pwede
38:17implement
38:18karoon
38:18kaya
38:18it
38:18will
38:19affect
38:19my
38:19constituents
38:20and
38:22it's
38:23part
38:23of
38:23the
38:23whole
38:23plan
38:23no
38:25use
38:25an
38:25entire
38:26yes
38:27exactly
38:28so
38:30unfortunately
38:32probably
38:34na
38:34ay
38:35kanang
38:37disconnect
38:37lang
38:38wa silag
38:39yung
38:39nagka
38:39agree
38:40on
38:41the
38:41term
38:42ni
38:43Carol
38:43Ballister
38:44sa
38:44ko
38:44ang
38:46buy-in
38:47ba
38:47okay
38:47ikaw
38:48Cebu
38:48City
38:48what's
38:49at
38:50stake
38:50for
38:50me
38:50what's
38:51my
38:51role
38:52ikaw
38:53lapu
38:53or
38:53bandawe
38:54there's
38:57probably
38:57no
38:58clear
38:58provision
38:59there
39:00wala
39:02na
39:03ni
39:03move
39:04sa
39:04congress
39:05kay
39:05wa
39:06may
39:06push
39:07I
39:08remember
39:09I
39:09think
39:10naka
39:10cover
39:10ko
39:10ana
39:11one
39:11of
39:11the
39:12hesitations
39:13why
39:13the
39:13LG
39:14use
39:14wala
39:15ni
39:15push
39:15because
39:16they
39:16don't
39:16want
39:16to
39:16give
39:17in
39:18some
39:18of
39:18their
39:18powers
39:19to
39:19the
39:20authority
39:20correct
39:21I
39:22think
39:22that's
39:22the
39:23main
39:23for
39:24example
39:25like
39:25like
39:26MMDA
39:27dugay
39:28man
39:28sa
39:29siya
39:29kaya
39:29ang
39:29mga
39:30LGUs
39:30wala
39:32naku
39:32power
39:32ako
39:33man
39:33control
39:34di
39:34man
39:34kaya
39:35mula
39:36lagi
39:36na
39:36water
39:36water
39:37for
39:37example
39:38water
39:38garbage
39:39traffic
39:39tili
39:40man
39:40siya
39:40mga
39:41ay
39:41muundang
39:42naku
39:42muli
39:43ko
39:43naku
39:43kaya
39:44di
39:44na
39:44ni
39:44Cebu
39:44City
39:45that's
39:46that's
39:47the
39:47that's
39:48the
39:48of it
39:49ang
39:49main
39:49kanya
39:50lang
39:50itong
39:51example
39:51lang
39:52itong
39:52traffic
39:52din
39:53srp
39:54ang
39:55taga
39:55talisay
39:56muad
39:57to
39:57matrabaho
39:58o
39:58glap
39:58lapo
39:59you know
40:01I made
40:04mention
40:05sa akong
40:05other
40:06post
40:06nga
40:07a
40:08perfect
40:08example
40:08kung
40:09naanunta
40:10ang
40:10MCDA
40:11during
40:11the
40:12pandemic
40:12it would
40:13have been
40:13easier
40:14for
40:14kuan
40:15nga
40:15makatransfer
40:16from
40:16glanilla
40:17to
40:17cross
40:17to
40:17lapu
40:18lapu
40:18kuan
40:19kaya
40:19each
40:20city
40:20has
40:21their
40:21own
40:21protocols
40:23different
40:24protocols
40:24nga
40:25dili
40:25coordinated
40:25kasi
40:26kasi
40:26City
40:26nakasood
40:27gikan
40:29ka
40:29sa
40:29Manila
40:30for
40:30example
40:30perishable
40:31goods
40:32kasi
40:32kainang
40:32lamang
40:32tag
40:33food
40:33at
40:33that
40:33time
40:33it's
40:37crazy
40:38but
40:38we go
40:39back to
40:39my
40:39version
40:40of that
40:40disaster
40:41I was
40:41leading
40:41a
40:42logistics
40:42company
40:42at
40:43that
40:43time
40:43we
40:44booked
40:44a
40:44hotel
40:44in
40:45Mandawi
40:45for
40:46business
40:46continuity
40:47plan
40:47and
40:47we're
40:47located
40:48in
40:48IT
40:48park
40:49and
40:49then
40:495
40:50p.m.
40:50before
40:51the
40:52ECQ
40:53was enforced
40:54the
40:55bus
40:55could
40:55not
40:55go
40:56out
40:56from
40:56Cebu
40:56City
40:57what
40:57would
40:57we
40:57do
40:58with
40:58a
40:58reservation
40:58sa
41:00to
41:00scramble
41:01within
41:01City
41:01and
41:02at
41:02that
41:02time
41:02everybody
41:03is
41:03already
41:03full
41:03but
41:04anyhow
41:04going
41:04back
41:05to
41:05agriculture
41:07also
41:08we have
41:10to
41:10hire a
41:14different
41:15driver
41:15for
41:15the
41:16same
41:16truck
41:16for
41:17the
41:17local
41:22government
41:22officials
41:24in Cebu
41:24do we
41:26need
41:26another
41:27Tino
41:28to
41:28realize
41:29we
41:29really
41:30need
41:30to
41:30act
41:31as
41:31one
41:31to
41:32be
41:33fair
41:33said
41:33to
41:34this
41:35LGU
41:37heads
41:37they're
41:40probably
41:40thinking
41:41of their
41:41constituents
41:42also
41:42I hope
41:43their hearts
41:45are there
41:45but
41:46they have
41:47to look
41:48at the
41:48bigger
41:48picture
41:48also
41:49anyway
41:51it's
41:51still
41:51their
41:51constituent
41:52in the
41:52context
41:53of
41:53your
41:53example
41:53it's
41:54their
41:54constituent
41:54who
41:54will
41:55still
41:55work
41:55in
41:55Lapu
41:55Lapu
41:56yes
41:56so
41:57it's
41:57the
41:57MCDA
42:00mandate
42:02MCDA
42:03there
42:04are
42:04specific
42:05limitations
42:06they
42:07each
42:08LGUs
42:08are
42:09actually
42:09autonomous
42:10they
42:10have
42:11but
42:12in
42:13certain
42:14aspects
42:14like
42:14traffic
42:16garbage
42:18water
42:20flood
42:22control
42:23interconnected
42:24those
42:25are
42:25sewer
42:27for
42:27example
42:28for
42:29MCWD
42:33for
42:33a
42:33sewer
42:34project
42:35for
42:36you
42:37to see
42:37it's
42:38it's
42:38it's
42:39it's
42:40it's
42:41it's
42:41it's
42:42it's
42:42it's
42:42it's
42:43it's
42:44it's
42:44it's
42:45it's
42:45it's
42:45it's
42:46it's
42:46it's
42:47it's
42:47for
42:48you
42:49to
42:49see
42:49that
42:50something
42:51has
42:52to
42:54to, kanang maitabuan yung problema.
42:56But anyway, masig mo,
42:58buto na niya akong ugat.
43:00Naayinig question din si Frank
43:02Daniel, willing ba mo
43:04demolish ang mga elected
43:05government officials sa mga squatters
43:08o big establishments
43:09along sa riverbanks or
43:11worse, kanang naa sa riverbed
43:14without fear of backlash
43:16from votes for the kontra
43:18sa politika? I think mo nang
43:20naitabu ka tong gubat
43:22kontra sa baha. There were
43:24a lot of establishments that were given
43:26Shoko's orders to demolish.
43:29Pero, wa takaybog
43:30unsan na yung nahitabu ato.
43:32Kung na-demolish ba gito sila or not.
43:35Now, you also
43:36talk about the disappearance
43:38of Cebu's natural waterways,
43:40rivers, creeks, that were built
43:42over or
43:44covered. How serious
43:46is this loss to our flood resilience?
43:49Very serious,
43:50definitely, because water
43:52fines it to...
43:54Mango Avenue,
43:55after
43:55Tino,
44:01di ba, that was the first
44:02one,
44:03a friend of mine,
44:04siya mo yung charge ato
44:05sa Rotary Club,
44:06si Brother Bernard,
44:08pag-clearing sa
44:09kon, kaya grabe ka yung lapok
44:11sa Mango Avenue.
44:12Asam nanggiikan ng lapok?
44:13Di ba, nai-sapa di na?
44:14Kamay ka ayun.
44:15Kamay ka yung sapay.
44:16Perfect example.
44:17Why is that building there
44:19allowed
44:21to be built
44:22right at the side
44:24of that creek
44:25when there's supposed
44:26to be a
44:26at minimum
44:27five meter
44:28easement?
44:30Minimum,
44:30if not bigger.
44:32Depend...
44:33Right after that?
44:38Mango.
44:39Mango?
44:40Something.
44:41The Kwan is built
44:43right on top
44:44of the creek.
44:46I mean,
44:47that's clearly
44:48a...
44:48Mango Park.
44:49Oh.
44:50That's clearly
44:51a violation
44:51of the...
44:53Office of...
44:55The building code.
44:57Yeah.
44:57The building code.
44:58Okay,
44:58naman ay Kwan.
45:01Siguro,
45:02basig,
45:02na-exempt na sila
45:03kay nakasay
45:04grandfather law,
45:05I really don't know.
45:06Or if na...
45:07But Kwan,
45:09man sagot,
45:09di ba kakaingon
45:10na nawa sa mapa
45:11kaya the river
45:12is still there?
45:13Although,
45:14it used to be a river
45:15na umurag creek na lang siya
45:17or kanal na lang siya
45:18because ninaro naman siya
45:19agmayo.
45:19Probably,
45:20that's one of the
45:20accommodations.
45:21Probably,
45:22this is my Kwan.
45:23I hope,
45:24dili na incriminating
45:25sa ako ang Kwan.
45:27Kanang,
45:28siguro,
45:29basig,
45:29basig,
45:31na-mention man ako
45:31na there are titles
45:33na walay nakita
45:33ang Kwan.
45:35This is a legal document
45:36that I have.
45:38Wala ko'y sapa.
45:40Oh,
45:40since naamang ginay
45:41sapa din eh,
45:42pwede ba ang sapa
45:42ang akong gamiton
45:43sa akong Utah skin eh?
45:47Ang setback ko,
45:48paagi on,
45:48ragi hapon ako ang sapa.
45:50Pero,
45:50kutub ko din eh.
45:52And,
45:52there's a possibility
45:54nga
45:54that approving
45:55agency at that time,
45:57sige,
45:58kwa ma,
45:59di man visible.
46:00So,
46:01sige,
46:02i-allow ka na mga
46:02butang ka o bridge
46:03din ha.
46:04It could be
46:05that way,
46:06no?
46:07I'm not really sure,
46:08but it's possible.
46:09Is it,
46:10kung anbasad nga,
46:11can these waterways
46:12still be restored
46:13or has urban development
46:15already made that
46:16impossible in many areas?
46:18Or,
46:18kinahanglan ng Yugkag
46:19strong political will
46:21for it to be,
46:22nga ma-restore na siya?
46:23In recent activities,
46:26na-identify
46:26mangyin ni nila
46:27and you have seen
46:28really mga establishments
46:29nga,
46:30of course,
46:31over na gilid sila.
46:32Cologne,
46:32for example,
46:33kanang,
46:33may gaysan o main,
46:37obstruction mangyin siya.
46:38nga-highlight mangyin siya.
46:40Pero,
46:40what do you think
46:41is needed
46:42ma-recover pa ba ni na to?
46:46Ah,
46:47that's one question.
46:48You cannot, yeah.
46:50Siguro,
46:51yeah,
46:52political will,
46:53actually,
46:54because it has been done
46:55in other countries.
46:57I've seen a video
46:59which was forwarded to me
47:01about,
47:02naigigigiguan si
47:04architect Palafox
47:05that they had to demolish
47:07several kwan
47:09and it was really
47:10the government
47:11who,
47:12and of course,
47:14since this entails
47:15cost on the private sector
47:17and the government sector,
47:19siguro,
47:19an agreement,
47:21na,
47:22they have to come up
47:23with a certain agreement,
47:24a compromise,
47:25na,
47:26okay,
47:26for a better
47:27implementation of the plan,
47:30di mangyud ni,
47:31maunggi ni solution,
47:32so,
47:32kanang biin mong building,
47:33bungkaga na,
47:34nyipag human,
47:34erog diri,
47:35and,
47:35I don't know,
47:36solutions can be done.
47:37So,
47:38how do you think
47:39local land titling,
47:40something to do,
47:42maunggid po din siya
47:43sa land titles,
47:45and property development
47:46policy should be reformed
47:48to reflect
47:48natural geography,
47:50do they need
47:51updated maps?
47:52Kaya,
47:52kung wingon ka nga,
47:53akong umane akong property,
47:55wala may,
47:56wala may creek din,
47:58or wala may river,
47:59so,
48:00basin nga,
48:01through the years,
48:02wala na lang na siya
48:03nabantayan,
48:04is there a need
48:06for a more recent,
48:07or more honest,
48:08nga map,
48:10for everybody,
48:11kaya,
48:11kanang,
48:12if you just,
48:13if you just go
48:14to the area,
48:15makikita man ni mo,
48:17but how come
48:17it's not in the map?
48:20Yeah,
48:21pero,
48:21you know,
48:22Cebu is an old city,
48:25you know,
48:25it's,
48:27uh,
48:28great master planners
48:29of the Philippines,
48:30And in fact, we have also from Japan and Kinsanang nag-contribute nga koan.
48:36Murag, it's a common recommendation.
48:40I mentioned it in one of my posts nga.
48:44De-congest yod, because we're already very congested.
48:48Saturated.
48:49Congested na yod siya.
48:50And, kanang mga buildings sa yun or mga ito could, but, you know,
48:56ug-i-spread na ito ba, ang koan bitao?
48:59I remember, Naga, through the effort of the former governor, Lito Usmania,
49:07naan ashegi kwan ka, I think it's still there, katong Muran asheg Pesa 3,
49:13the industrial park, the purpose of that one was to decongest.
49:19Create opportunities, but they don't have to go to the new.
49:21Create opportunities, at the same time, ang kininigin ko, hindi na ma-congested ang makna, no?
49:27So, ang katto sa mga workers will be staying in that area rather than travel.
49:32Yeah.
49:33So, I think that's one of the long-term plans.
49:37Mahal naman saan, ang property sa city, if you want to, kanang ang business ni modere.
49:42So, I think the reason why there's the, I'm not sure if it's in consolation,
49:47it's a consolation na port, so that it's also kanang open to kanang mga industries in the north.
49:54But, I have my last question before we let you go.
49:59You ended, in your post, you ended a strong statement.
50:03It's not just flood control, it's definitely beyond that.
50:07What exactly should beyond flood control mean for Cebu's future development?
50:12I think the, the, ano, is, since na-mention na ng kanang Mega Cebu blueprint ba,
50:20I think that's, that was the dream of Bobby Eboitis,
50:26and it connects to the, the vision of also, I have to mention their names,
50:30because they, they were really visionaries, the late, Lito Osmania.
50:35I think that's, that's my, what I meant nga.
50:40It's not just planning, planning, or engineering things, the flood control.
50:45It's, it has to go beyond that.
50:48It's the, the heart of, you know, each Cebuano or each constituent will be,
50:55kanabang, you live in peace in one area,
50:58mo adto kong adto sa city kito, dindot ang development nga to,
51:01but at the same time, ang city, being a metropolis,
51:05safe giyapon for, for the business to, to exist.
51:08Now, I mean, that's, it's a dream.
51:13And I think the 2050 or 2060 Mega Cebu blueprint
51:18is really worth looking at,
51:21and our local government should look at, look at it,
51:26and consider it seriously.
51:28And the only way to start things moving
51:32is to ask our congressmen in Cebu to really push for the MDCA.
51:40It has to have a legal personality.
51:44Yes.
51:45So that it will have also their own accountability.
51:48You mentioned to me earlier nga,
51:51pwede yung takamu i-blame ni Cebu City nga,
51:54batian traffic sa MCDA,
51:58dili sa LGU.
51:59Dili sa LGU.
52:00I mean, it's a win-win thing.
52:01It's a win-win thing.
52:02It's a win-win thing.
52:03So there's more political will,
52:04kaya they don't necessarily get the,
52:07they can make unpopular decisions
52:09without impacting their votes.
52:11In the future, well,
52:14I think if ang businessmen,
52:16ang businessmen,
52:17ang mga politics,
52:18ilang business is votes,
52:19mga ponso.
52:20Ito na lang ng Sabton.
52:21This is my very last.
52:23Sige.
52:23If you were to summarize
52:25the single biggest change Cebu needs today
52:27to avoid repeating this flood crisis,
52:31what would it be?
52:33Bugo na sa siguro tanong,
52:35if we allow another Tino to happen to us?
52:37Well, I don't know.
52:42What would it be?
52:44Let's be educated in the way we vote.
52:49Elect, number one,
52:52trustworthy politicians.
52:55Politicians, not only politicians,
52:57but they really are there to serve.
53:01It's sudden us, no?
53:04It's a continuous cycle, ba?
53:06Okay.
53:07Ang saan ito,
53:08ang mga constituents,
53:09daghan kaayo ang
53:11dili, bitaw, educated.
53:14Ang ako ganing kuhan,
53:15I learned this from the environmental planning
53:18ka ng kuhan na mo.
53:20Lessons ba?
53:21I just learned that the barangay captain
53:23is actually more powerful than the mayor.
53:27No?
53:28And ang akong challenge to all barangay captains,
53:30if you want to educate your constituents,
53:33pwede mo magpaprint sa local government code
53:37and distribute it to your...
53:39Translate to Visaya.
53:40Translate to Visaya
53:41para makahibaw ang each constituent mo.
53:44Mauna yung akong role mo.
53:46Mauna yung kuhan.
53:46Ganong dili ko pataka,
53:47og labay, og basura,
53:49and all these things.
53:50Kasi it goes back to the core values
53:54mangod of each individual.
53:56Kaya wala na ang core value.
53:58Ano saan mo?
53:59Pag-elek og kuhan nga.
54:01So, connection na nakukay ang role sa education.
54:06Diba?
54:07Mauna yung trabaho yun sa journalism,
54:09sa media.
54:10We educate our audience.
54:12Un-unsa ang inyong katungod.
54:15Unsa po din yung responsibility.
54:17Kaya dili man na responsibility lang
54:19sa LGU.
54:21So, mauna,
54:21ayaw ta magsunod-sunod
54:23o mga dili legitimate news source.
54:28Kanita sa Sunstar,
54:29mutan na.
54:30Ang vetting process,
54:32Diyos ko,
54:33labaw, pasko melek.
54:34And speaking of education,
54:37maybe there's something also
54:38that you can tell our viewers
54:40because a lot of them are frustrated.
54:43But we also want to translate
54:45that frustration
54:46into something that is positive.
54:49And that means lasting change.
54:51So, you've mentioned in one of your posts
54:53about rainwater conservation.
54:55Maybe you want to educate more
54:57because this is one way
54:58for them to make the most
55:00of their frustration
55:00into something positive.
55:02Yeah.
55:02Namang goy na muntanan ako,
55:04architect,
55:04asam mo yung pwede muntabang.
55:06So, ang aking reply was,
55:07atumusin yung barangay,
55:09tanawaw,
55:09ang sawan na niyo pag-volunteer.
55:11But at the end of the day,
55:12na rin nakakuhaan ko,
55:13there's actually a city ordinance
55:15in most municipalities and cities.
55:19Kanyang rainwater tank,
55:21ka nang catchment ba?
55:22Yes.
55:23You cannot have your new house
55:25or establishment
55:26if you don't have that.
55:28Now,
55:29ugang imuhang balay
55:30is ka nang na-exempted ano
55:32kaya pagtukod ni mo,
55:33wala pa na siyang ordinance.
55:37It's the purpose of that ordinance
55:39is actually to delay the runoff
55:43towards our storm drain.
55:45Kung nga amang gani.
55:48Naman tayo gamayin yun.
55:49Naman yun na itong summaries.
55:50But if everyone in the,
55:53let's say,
55:54along
55:54Dilamuntanya,
55:57where I kikuan,
55:58o kanatanang establishments
55:59din na,
56:00na rainwater collection.
56:01Of course,
56:02it's based,
56:03naagihapon ay computation.
56:04Hindi lang naingon nga magbutang.
56:05Butang graba ko nga ito,
56:06sample na ko nga ka ng
56:08duhaka drums ba.
56:09But ang city ordinance
56:11na sila computation,
56:12like your area,
56:13roof area,
56:14morning,
56:14container ngayon mo ang gwan.
56:18Now,
56:18if everybody
56:19musunod na na
56:22or magbutang ka
56:23on your own,
56:26madilay yun ang gwan.
56:27And,
56:28ang pag-flow.
56:29Pero,
56:29mausad ni,
56:30kinahanglan,
56:31o gnaakana,
56:32mo itong parts na compost,
56:34gamit na,
56:34sad,
56:34ang uwan.
56:35Kayo,
56:36o gnain ni mo gamito ni mo
56:37ang tubig.
56:38Oo.
56:39Wah.
56:40Inig next na mag-uwan.
56:41Oh,
56:42flow na po.
56:42O,
56:43diba?
56:44So,
56:44by the time,
56:45I mean,
56:45these are practical things.
56:46Practical things.
56:47Each.
56:48Kung na ay bagyo-bagyo later on,
56:50di tamo yung,
56:50simsid,
56:51pero,
56:51insid,
56:51luna tayo tubig,
56:52kinatay na pundo nga tubig uwan.
56:54Ang problema na lang po na,
56:56to make sure nga,
56:56dili siya makonvert to dengue.
56:58Yes,
56:58that's also another thing.
57:00It has to be covered also.
57:02So,
57:02this is a continuing education for everybody.
57:06Yeah.
57:07Ngayon,
57:07napakaihirit nga last question.
57:08Oh,
57:09good na ka.
57:09So,
57:10okay.
57:10Good na.
57:11Thank you,
57:12kaayo,
57:13architect.
57:13Salamat,
57:13sir,
57:13for inviting me.
57:14I think uwang ragid ang usaka oras,
57:15kay nag-pag-ambak amung pangutana ni DJ,
57:17pero,
57:18that's a very,
57:19kanang,
57:20insightful nga discussion on,
57:23kanang,
57:24sticking to the plan.
57:25You know,
57:26kanang,
57:26kay wala,
57:27dili ba ya,
57:28o,
57:29ano pa,
57:29mga scientist,
57:30technical people ba ya?
57:31There's always a science to the plan.
57:35So,
57:35dili na siya something,
57:36unless,
57:37huwag ka nang,
57:38un-paced lang,
57:39parha sa budget,
57:40sa infrastructure projects,
57:41in a way.
57:42That wraps up the edition of Beyond the Headlines.
57:46We hope today's conversation
57:47helps shed light on the bigger picture
57:50behind the story.
57:52And once again,
57:53we'd like to thank our guest,
57:54architect Edwin San Nicolás,
57:56for helping us connect the dots
57:58in ways that matter.
57:59I'm Yildred Galarpe.
58:02And I'm DJ Moises.
58:04Thank you,
58:04and good afternoon.
58:05Good morning.
58:24anywhere you go?
58:26Hello,
58:27hi,
58:27wonderful morning.
58:27Bye,
58:28everyone.
58:28Bye-bye!
58:29Bye-bye!
58:30Bye-bye!
58:30Bye-bye!
58:30Bye-bye!
58:31Bye-bye!
58:31Bye-bye!
58:32Bye-bye!
58:32Bye-bye!
58:33Bye-bye!
58:34Bye-bye!
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