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'Binabaha ba?': Erwin Tulfo questions flood control budget in areas not prone to flooding
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Senator Erwin Tulfo on Tuesday, August 19 pressed government officials to explain numerous flood control projects poured into provinces that are not even among the country’s most flood-prone areas.
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00:00
Now let me direct my question to the Department of Public Works and Highways.
00:03
Mr. Secretary, based on the list released by the President,
00:06
there are top provinces with flood control projects, okay?
00:10
Pero they're not on top of the list in a flood-prone area,
00:14
like Cebu with 414 flood control projects,
00:17
Isabela 341, Albay 273,
00:22
Leyte 262, Camarines Sur 252.
00:26
Tinitignan ko po itong listahan.
00:28
Wala po sila dito sa top 10 flood-prone province.
00:32
Ang number one po dyan, Pampanga, Nueva Ecija, Pangasinan, Tarlac, Bulacan, Metro Manila,
00:37
Maguindanao, North Cotabato, Oriental Mindoro, Ilocos Norte.
00:40
Ang tanong ko po, Mr. Secretary,
00:43
ano pong sinunod ho natin dito?
00:45
Yung hazard mapping po ba?
00:47
O sinunod natin yung politiko kung saan niya gustong ilagay yung pondo niya?
00:52
Mr. Secretary.
00:55
Your Honor, as I have explained, Dr. Lipoy,
00:57
yung paglalagay po ng projects,
01:00
na flood-control projects,
01:03
under the National Expenditure Program po ito, no?
01:07
Under the National Expenditure Program,
01:10
meron po kasing allocation for its engineering district allocation po.
01:16
And then if you say there is a $1 billion allocation for an engineering district,
01:27
our policy po nam in dito is 70% of that should go to the core program of the department,
01:33
which is National Road Program Management and bridges,
01:41
and, of course, flood-control projects, flood-control projects.
01:44
So, eto po yung core program ng the department.
01:49
So, at the end, at the end, these are prioritized,
01:54
and 70% of the $1 billion, as I said, $1 billion, theoretical $1 billion,
01:59
can be allocated for local infrastructure.
02:03
So, in the allocation of that 70%,
02:05
it's all up to the priorities in that district
02:09
where to put the allocations,
02:11
either in roads or flood-control, Mr. Chairman.
02:14
So, at the end of the day,
02:17
ang kwan po nito nito is actually,
02:20
as I mentioned,
02:23
it has to go through the process of
02:25
the projects would have been included
02:28
in the regional budget proposal.
02:34
Kaya nga, Mr. Chair,
02:36
bakit po napakalaki naman
02:38
ng pinondo po dito sa mga probinsya na ito,
02:42
eh, when in fact,
02:44
wala ho siya sa sa top ten list ng flood-control.
02:47
Billions po yung pinondod.
02:49
Ano po ang basis, legal basis po,
02:52
napondohan itong limang probinsya na ito,
02:55
na hindi naman po flood-prone sila,
02:58
ah, Mrs. Secretary?
03:04
Ito po kasi yung kwan sitwation, Mr. Chair.
03:08
As far as the national expenditure program
03:13
that's submitted,
03:14
these are equitably distributed
03:16
amongst all the legislative
03:18
and engineering districts.
03:20
However, Mr. Chair,
03:22
I think we know that actually,
03:25
after the General Appropriations Act,
03:29
marami po yung mga projects
03:30
that are included.
03:31
I understand that, Mr. Chair,
03:35
pero yun nga po,
03:36
ibabalikan nalang ho natin yan
03:38
because ang tanong po natin,
03:41
napakalaki naman po ng pondo
03:42
at saka napakaraming flood-control projects
03:45
ng mga lugar na ito.
03:46
Hindi po ba ninyo na silip ito?
03:48
Nung nilagay po ninyo sanet?
03:50
Did you check man lang
03:52
or ask as you're planning
03:53
or whoever is in charge
03:55
na kailangan natin lagyan dito
03:57
ng flood-control, Cebu, bla, bla, bla?
03:59
Eh, sana, tinignan din ho natin
04:01
kung magaling ho yung planning natin,
04:03
kung sino man niya may hawak dyan,
04:05
binabaha ba?
04:05
Ang tanong po dyan, binabaha ba?
04:07
Bakit tayo magpupondo rin sa lugar na ito
04:09
kung hindi naman po binabaha?
04:10
It's a waste of money, Mr. Secretary.
04:13
Waste of time also.
04:15
Eh, halatang halata ho eh.
04:17
Pupondohan mo dito, gagastusan mo
04:19
na wala namang baha.
04:20
Di po ba?
04:21
I mean, am I right?
04:22
Yes or no lang, Mr. Secretary?
04:24
Yes, Your Honor.
04:24
I agree. I agree completely.
04:26
All right.
04:26
Now, let me, I'll go back to you.
04:29
Mr. Secretary.
04:30
Mr. Chair, let me, let me ask this question
04:32
to, to the, to, uh,
04:34
the Department of Budget and Management.
04:37
Uh, Madam Secretary, ma'am,
04:40
wala po ba hindi po ninyo chine-check?
04:41
So, basta nag-request lang ng pondo,
04:44
rireleasehan ho ninyo,
04:45
hindi mo lang matatanong
04:46
para saan po itong pondo na ito,
04:49
billion po ito, flood control.
04:50
Wala ba kayong to counter na flood control?
04:53
Kailangan ito to justify?
04:55
I mean, release lang ho tayo ng release
04:57
kasi sabi ni congressman,
04:59
sabi ni ganito,
05:00
hingyan ko ng pondo, etc., etc.
05:02
Kailangan ko kasi baka hindi.
05:04
Pag hindi ko nirealisan,
05:05
baka ipitin ang pondo ko sa budget hearing.
05:07
Mr. Chair, um, good afternoon po sa ating lahat.
05:17
Kung ano po ang nakalagay sa General Appropriations Act,
05:21
yun po ang, uh,
05:22
inirelease natin sa Department of Public Works and Iways.
05:27
Nakalain item po lahat ng mga projects.
05:30
It's, um, detailed and identified yung mga projects po.
05:34
Isa-isa, nakasulat po dyan, yung mga projects,
05:37
yung mga flood control projects.
05:39
I understand that, uh, Madam Secretary,
05:41
pero my point is, wala po bang pagkakataon?
05:44
Kasi baka mamaya, mali na po yung nililista.
05:46
Hindi na po tama.
05:47
If you see something wrong, okay,
05:49
nasa, nandyan nga po yan, line item,
05:52
pero hindi na po tama.
05:53
It's like, tama ho.
05:55
I mean, nasa line item, etc.
05:57
Kailangan ninyong pondohan yan.
05:58
Pero, uh, hindi po bang medyo questionin man lang
06:01
na nakakaduda na po dahil,
06:03
teka mo na, masyadong malaki ito,
06:05
bubondohan natin ito,
06:06
na wala namang, wala namang baha dito,
06:09
or at least, kahit na,
06:10
to check lang po, uh, countercheck.
06:13
Na, bako niya.
06:14
Wala po kaming, uh, wala po sa,
06:18
wala po kaming tao
06:19
na kayang mag-check isa-isa
06:21
no mga projects na pinopropose
06:23
ng DPWH po.
06:25
But do you have the mandate to do that?
06:27
Ah, wala din po, eh.
06:29
Yun na sabihin mo.
06:30
Wala rin po, o po.
06:32
Wala po.
06:32
Okay.
06:33
Okay.
06:34
Now, let me move to the commission on audit naman.
06:38
Ito pong, uh, yung,
06:41
can you identify contractors,
06:43
isa commission on,
06:45
with repeat adverse audit finding
06:47
who still continue to receive new projects?
06:49
Meron po ba kayo listahan na,
06:51
itong contractor ito, blacklisted,
06:53
itong contractor na ito,
06:54
substandard,
06:56
meron kayo, wala.
06:57
Sir, meron po kaming ongoing list, sir.
07:00
Pero as to yung mga, uh,
07:02
blacklisted contractors po,
07:03
manggagaling po kay DP,
07:05
pero meron na din po kaming,
07:07
parang database, sir,
07:08
na ginagawa po ngayon.
07:10
And yung data po ngayon
07:11
ay nasa 2022 to 2024 na po, sir.
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