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Seth and Sean dive into the Jaguars new WR and challenges they present for the Texans' defense this Sunday.
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00:00The Jags made a deal at the trade deadline, picked up wide receiver Jacoby Myers.
00:04Good player who, for what the Jags have been this season, scratches them right where they itch.
00:09He actually catches the football. They've got a huge drop rate on this team.
00:13He's very reliable. Here's Liam Cohen. How can Jacoby Myers help you guys this week?
00:18I followed his career pretty closely, you know, being in the Northeast myself,
00:22the Patriots, watching those guys over the years, and then obviously moving into a couple different roles.
00:26former quarterback, always appreciate that, really, in any skilled player.
00:31But the ability, tough, strong hands, has been physical as a separator in ISO situations.
00:39I've only heard great things about the pro.
00:43Edgar's work, definitely excited to have him.
00:45Okay, so that's sort of the thumbnail, Myers. Real quick, here's one more from Cohen.
00:48This is the more important question for the Texans. How quickly can he acclimate?
00:52Yeah, that's the exact is the challenge is the balance of, you know, how much he can handle,
00:57how quickly can he get some of the formations down, the timing, obviously, a practice and some of the,
01:03you know, just throwing on air with Trev and getting some reps that way.
01:07But it'll really come down to just, all right, what are the things specific that, you know,
01:11you want to get him in the flow of the game, you want to get him opportunities,
01:13but also just to go play as a Jaguar.
01:16Not necessarily every time he's in, it's something that he has to go and do.
01:20You just want to make sure there's a balance there.
01:22So that'll be a process throughout this week and through each part of the plan.
01:27Okay, normal D&D, third downs, red zone.
01:30How much in those areas can you give him?
01:33And that's the balance for sure.
01:34Yeah, and how willing is he to, you know, really go after some of these murder balls
01:39that Trevor Lawrence throws, some of these hospital balls?
01:42Yeah, he just...
01:44How much do you value your brain?
01:45How much do you value your brain, Jacoby Myers?
01:47Because that's really what we're talking about here.
01:48There is a right answer to this, okay?
01:50Yeah.
01:51I'd like to go through and see how many of the drops for the Jaguars,
01:54because the Jaguars lead the league in drops.
01:56Yeah.
01:56And some of them are just egregiously bad.
01:58Brian Thomas Jr. has had some really bad drops.
02:00Oh, he was awful the first month of the season.
02:02There are a fair number of them, though, where, man, I can't,
02:05I almost can't fault the receiver for having gator arms on some of the throws over the middle
02:09with how Trevor Lawrence...
02:10He's not just throwing him into danger.
02:12He's like, it's like a high ball that you have to reach out for
02:16and stretch into as you're about to get a hit.
02:18Your entire rib cage is exposed.
02:20I mean, that's one thing that...
02:22That CJ does.
02:24If he is throwing a guy into danger, he tries to throw it, you know,
02:26low in something the guy can get down immediately on.
02:29Yes.
02:30He tries to, he has the ability to place it really well.
02:33Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence's ball placement is just, it's so inconsistent.
02:38Yeah.
02:38And, but he does have that dynamic.
02:41We know from having played against him so many times that when he's on,
02:45he can make some beautiful throws and he can really, really hurt you.
02:48He just doesn't do it consistently.
02:49You never know what version you're going to get.
02:51He's the golfer that's all over the place, but man, he just,
02:53he just stuck that 180 yard, you know, six iron or whatever it is.
02:58He was awful in the Texans, the first Texans game this year
03:00until he wasn't on that throw to Brian Thomas Jr.
03:03Correct.
03:03And it wasn't like that was a difficult throw.
03:05And we know now that CJ Gardner Johnson had blown his responsibility.
03:08So Kamari's trying to catch up to him as he's making up for CJ Gardner Johnson.
03:12It feels like it was eight years ago.
03:13The throw was good enough.
03:14You know, that's exactly what they need.
03:16Hit him on the run.
03:16Yeah.
03:17Yeah.
03:17Yeah.
03:17So that's, and, and his legs too.
03:20Yeah.
03:20You know, Trevor Lawrence, if you, if you're not disciplined and keep him in,
03:24I think if you keep Trevor Lawrence in the pocket and take away his first read,
03:28you will eat as a defense against Trevor Lawrence.
03:30If you do that, you just can't let him squirt out the, when he's hurt teams,
03:34when he's made plays that still have people nationally in on Trevor Lawrence,
03:39it's largely been with his legs that, that play again, I forget.
03:42It was the Kansas city game at the end of the Kansas city fall.
03:45The, you know, he falls down, gets up.
03:47Chris Jones stopped playing.
03:48Yeah.
03:49Stop trying.
03:49Yeah.
03:50And he runs into the end zone.
03:51He had a couple of really nice runs in that Raiders game.
03:54Yeah.
03:54Yeah.
03:55Raiders game.
03:55The first half.
03:56Now Trevor Lawrence was, he was playing, they're calling it his flu game.
03:58I guess he was really, really sick in that game.
04:01So credit to him pulling the first half.
04:05Yep.
04:05It was kind of like a Bo Nix type performance,
04:07but he showed up big time and they won an overtime.
04:09They had three points at halftime and it was a 68 yard field goal.
04:12They won 30 to 29.
04:14And they should have lost,
04:15except that their defensive tackle there,
04:17Devon Hamilton had a blocked pass.
04:21Yeah.
04:22On the two point.
04:23And the Jaguars had a wide open dude,
04:25a guy for the two point conversion.
04:27Yeah.
04:27Yeah.
04:27Yeah.
04:27The Raiders had it wide open.
04:28A couple more from Liam Cohen.
04:32And these are,
04:32this is Cohen on what I think will be the biggest challenges for the Texans
04:36defense, as we mentioned.
04:37This is Travis Cohen talking about his running back,
04:40Travis Etienne's physicality.
04:42I've always really thought he was a talented player,
04:45but the physicality I think is maybe something that I'm not saying I had,
04:48I didn't see it before you like I've seen it.
04:51I just think it's impressive in person.
04:53When you see a guy like on the fourth and two speed option be met by the safety at the line to gain
05:00and just shoulder down,
05:02kept going forward.
05:03He's,
05:04he falls forward a lot more.
05:06You know,
05:06I think there was a few,
05:07he kind of stumbled on in the game a little or got tripped up.
05:10He wanted to stay on his feet and get some more,
05:12but he falls forward a lot more for,
05:14I guess you could say more what people have maybe in the past called him a scat back or,
05:18you know,
05:19a back that's more in the past game or outside of the perimeter.
05:23I think he's run between the tackles pretty well for us this year.
05:26That's a hundred percent spot on.
05:27I probably watched of,
05:28of teams,
05:29not the Texans.
05:30I probably watched a little more Jags football than,
05:33than most other teams,
05:34just because they're chasing them right now,
05:35the Texans in the division and Travis,
05:37there's times where I'm watching the game.
05:39I'm like,
05:39that's Travis Etienne right there.
05:41Like that's basically the ninth leading rusher in the NFL.
05:46He's averaging five yards a carry.
05:48He is the straw that stirs the drink for them on offense.
05:51He's their best offensive player this year.
05:53And I think this is where,
05:55whenever the Texans have gone into a game and their stated purpose has been,
05:59Hey,
05:59we got to be sure we stop this,
06:01this running back first and foremost,
06:03they've done a pretty good job of it.
06:04And they've held all of the guys that they faced who are top,
06:07you know,
06:07in the top 15 and rushing in the league,
06:09they've held them to pretty substantially below their season average.
06:13Other than they held Christian McCaffrey to blow his season average,
06:16but his,
06:16he was only running like for like three and a half yards of carry,
06:19but they held it below that.
06:20Yep.
06:20And I think D'Amico already said it again this week.
06:22He said,
06:23first and foremost,
06:24they need to stop ETN.
06:26So,
06:26and because they,
06:28they,
06:28and they're capable of doing it.
06:30Um,
06:30so I think that ETN,
06:32that's the big challenge this week.
06:33I think the Texans,
06:35we know the Texans defense is going to show up for sure.
06:37Like there's nothing,
06:38there's nothing about this Jaguars offense that makes me nervous when it comes
06:41to their matchup versus the Texans defense,
06:43unless the Texans,
06:44if all these injuries stick,
06:46but it's,
06:46it's just simply my,
06:48my question and my nervousness about the Texans defense is,
06:50can they be incredible this weekend?
06:53Because they probably will have to be to win the game.
06:55Can they,
06:56can they have a pick six?
06:58Can,
06:58can they have another blocked field goal?
07:00Like they need to do those things.
07:02They need to be above and beyond a really good defense.
07:05The Texans defense,
07:06Seth has literally had one bad quarter this year.
07:10The first quarter against Seattle,
07:12when they gave up the two long touchdown drives.
07:14Yeah,
07:15that's it.
07:15I mean,
07:16I know they've given up other touchdown drives,
07:17but that's going to happen in the NFL.
07:19The only time this year with the Texans defense where I'm pulling weight right
07:25now is when they allowed the Seahawks to build a 14,
07:27nothing lead in that game.
07:28It's tough because I think that,
07:30yeah,
07:31on the sum total of some of these quarters in the fourth quarter,
07:34they haven't been a bad defense,
07:35but they've let up crucial plays.
07:37I'm talking about letting teams drive,
07:39like actually drive on them.
07:41I think in so many of those times though,
07:42where the defense has,
07:44where the defense has had a letdown in the fourth quarter,
07:46it's after the offense has repeatedly let them down.
07:49They've been out there all day.
07:50Like last week.
07:50Yeah.
07:51The offense punts five times in a row.
07:53Three of them are three and outs.
07:55At some point,
07:56the dam's going to break.
07:57Yeah.
07:57And you just can't keep giving the opponent cracks at it.
08:01Right.
08:01So that's the,
08:03it really is,
08:04man,
08:05there's hopefully maybe a little bit of an ambush factor in that with Davis
08:09Mills,
08:09the play calling's a little bit different.
08:11The tendencies are going to be different.
08:12Maybe with that,
08:13that's enough to give them a little bit of a boost.
08:16And you get the best version of,
08:17of Davis Mills in an offense.
08:21That's new.
08:21You know,
08:22they don't have any film of Davis Mills in this offense and they don't know
08:25exactly what,
08:26what,
08:26how the play calling is going to be different than it has the first half of
08:29the season with CJ.
08:30Yeah.
08:30What do you think this game is?
08:31First one to what point total wins the game?
08:35Feels like one of those games where it's,
08:37you know,
08:37they usually say that for a lower scoring game.
08:39I'd say almost the exact same thing I did last week.
08:41Like if there's three touchdowns scored in the game,
08:43that feels about right.
08:44First one to 20,
08:45something like that on this game is yet again in the thirties,
08:47it's 38 and a half or something.
08:49It just,
08:50that's,
08:50it's a really good defense and for the Texans and you don't have anything you
08:55can feel good about on the offense.
08:56I think first one to 17,
08:57first one to 17.
08:58Yeah.
08:58That sounds about right.
08:59I think I made the prediction I made last week was.
09:04Oh,
09:04I was in Denver.
09:05I said 19 to 16 Texans.
09:07You did.
09:07So I was pretty close to the,
09:09on the,
09:10on the final score.
09:11You were very close.
09:12Yeah.
09:1219 to 17.
09:13Yeah.
09:13I talked my way down from 21.
09:16I'm like,
09:16well,
09:16no,
09:16there's not going to be.
09:17No,
09:17you were in the neighborhood.
09:17I was like,
09:18there's no way in hell there's going to be three touchdowns scored by the Texans.
09:21Yeah.
09:21Yeah.
09:22I think I had Broncos 23,
09:2317,
09:24something like that.
09:24I don't know.
09:25Do you,
09:25do you,
09:25are you picking the Texans this week?
09:27Yeah.
09:27Yeah.
09:28Yeah.
09:28I am too.
09:28I am too.
09:29One more from Liam Cohen.
09:31This is something we just talked about.
09:32Trevor Lawrence,
09:33his ability to hurt you with his legs,
09:35his athleticism.
09:36Yeah.
09:36I mean,
09:37big athletic dude that can run and get them in space a little bit,
09:40get them running and trying to get the ball on the perimeter,
09:43maybe in,
09:44in some different ways,
09:45right?
09:45Is you can toss it out there.
09:48You can hand it off out there,
09:49right?
09:49You can throw a screen out there.
09:51It's just another way of kind of attacking the edge and,
09:54and maybe slowing down their edge players.
09:57And defensive ends at times when it's like,
09:59okay,
09:59I'm,
10:00I'm getting cracked.
10:01I'm getting kicked out.
10:02I'm getting bluffed.
10:03I'm getting red.
10:04Like,
10:04those are the things obviously you're trying to,
10:06especially when you're playing really good ends to,
10:09to give those guys some different things.
10:10So this is the thing that Jaguars are trying to do as well as the
10:15Seahawks do.
10:16Cause remember,
10:17remember when Robert Sala,
10:18uh,
10:19the 49ers were playing the Jaguars and Robert Sala said that they have a
10:23really good sign stealing system.
10:26Yeah.
10:26Legal.
10:27He very,
10:27he's at legal sign stealing and Liam Cohen got all pissy about it.
10:31The hell out of right.
10:32Right.
10:32Which is,
10:33but that's something that they brought from,
10:35uh,
10:35the,
10:36the offensive coordinator,
10:37Grant Udinski brought from Minnesota.
10:39And likewise,
10:41Sam Darnold is doing a couple different calls in the huddle and based on what
10:49they see pre-snap,
10:50they're going to change it.
10:51Okay.
10:51That doesn't sound revolutionary or anything.
10:53It's just that they have a really good system for identifying the,
10:56the communication by the defensive backs and everything of to,
11:00to really get some clues.
11:01How is the defense responding to motion?
11:03All these other things that other offenses do.
11:06It seems like they have been,
11:07it seems like Kevin O'Connell developed some really good system for teaching quarterbacks,
11:12how to do that.
11:12Yep.
11:13And they're trying to teach Trevor Lawrence,
11:15how to do that.
11:16I don't,
11:17I don't know if Trevor Lawrence is a smart quarterback.
11:21I,
11:22I,
11:22I don't know if he's got the ability to process that at that level.
11:27And I think that's probably one of those things that's going on.
11:30If that's keeping him from being completely integrated into the offense is that they're
11:34asking him to do a lot with his gray matter.
11:36And I don't,
11:37I don't know how much gray matter he has.
11:39Yeah.
11:39I'm not calling him stupid.
11:41I'm just saying there's a chance.
11:43Okay.
11:44You're kind of calling him stupid.
11:45I know.
11:45I'm just saying,
11:46I don't know if he's smart,
11:47right,
11:48right,
11:48right.
11:48Or stupid.
11:49You're leaving open the possibility.
11:50He could be a guy for defense after defense,
11:53anonymous exec after anonymous exec.
11:55I mean,
11:56a lot of defensive players have put their names on it.
11:58They've just flat out said,
11:59I mean,
11:59he's a first read quarterback.
12:00Yeah.
12:01Like he's just,
12:01everybody knows who he is.
12:03If you get,
12:03if you take away his first read,
12:05he's lost out there first read,
12:06keep him in the pocket.
12:07He gets happy feet.
12:08And he does bad things.
12:10That only happens because I have a,
12:11either a lack of intelligence or a lack of nerve.
12:15Yep.
12:15So which are you?
12:16Are you stupid?
12:17Are you yellow?
12:18Or are you both?
12:19Yeah.
12:19I can handle stupid.
12:23Stupid.
12:24I don't.
12:25That's what I used to tell.
12:26I like when you use cotton as a verb.
12:27Yeah.
12:28Yeah,
12:28that's good.
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