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"I thought the Bruins as an organization nailed it" Bruins/NESN PBP announcer Judd Sirott joins!
Greg: "Is it possible that they are paying the wrong guy $8M to be their goaltender?"
Greg: "Is it possible that they are paying the wrong guy $8M to be their goaltender?"
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00:00The voice of the Boston Bruins, Judd Surratt, brought to you by Sports Etc., Boston's best hockey shop,
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00:12or online at sportsetc.net. Good morning, how are you?
00:16Morning, what's going on?
00:18Emotional night on Tuesday night at the Garden.
00:21I thought the Bruins as an organization nailed it.
00:24I think what you wanted to see is when Brad Marchand came back,
00:27you wanted to honor his time here in Boston.
00:30He's an iconic player. 63 is going to be hanging from the rafters.
00:34And the video that they put together, and I think he mentioned it once he saw the faces of his kids,
00:39in addition to all the accomplishments that he had here with the Bruins, I think it got him.
00:44And I loved how sincere he was. I loved the honesty.
00:47All of his interviews were absolute gold before, during, and after the game.
00:53But I thought it was a great moment.
00:55After when he spoke to ESPN and talked about the way in which things ended here,
01:02I gave him a lot of credit for putting a lot of that on himself and saying that he got too emotional at that time
01:11with regard to that negotiation.
01:13And so it's unfortunate that they couldn't figure that out, team and player.
01:21But also, he seems pretty happy where he is now and the opportunity to win down there.
01:26Oh, he's in a great spot.
01:27I don't think that there was any team other than maybe the Florida Panthers that was going to give him a six-year deal.
01:31And that's what they gave to a 37-year-old guy.
01:33You know, and listen, hats off to him.
01:37I saw the piece that I think you're talking to where he talked about,
01:40do you think or do you have any regrets with the way that everything unfolded at this point?
01:45And I think to his point, he said, you know, maybe I could have handled things a little bit differently.
01:50You know, I think the Bruins, they wanted to keep him,
01:52but I don't think that they were willing to meet Marchand's number.
01:55Yeah. That game should have been on Nessun, by the way.
01:58You're preaching to the choir, baby.
02:01You would probably agree.
02:02I mean, yeah.
02:04At least here locally.
02:06You know, I think one of the things, you know, and I don't understand all the ins and outs of how the networks can take games
02:12and what they can choose to use, but there are times where the local market can take the game
02:17and then everybody else nationally could get ESPN or TNT.
02:21Oh, okay.
02:21We had that instance last year.
02:23We were in Minnesota, you know, where our game was broadcast back in Boston here on Nessun,
02:29but everybody else got the Wild and the Bruins.
02:32You certainly wish, you know, and I understand, you know, if you're a network,
02:36this is why you pay all that money in the rights fee to be able to get that opportunity to see this moment.
02:41It was a huge game, certainly here early in the season, especially at a time before the World Series had started.
02:46But, you know, if you wanted the right broadcast, you wanted Nessun to be able to do it.
02:51They do that with the Celtics often, where the Celtics will be maybe on ESPN,
02:55but you can still watch them on the local broadcast, Scalabrini, and I forget what the other guy's name is.
03:00I said this earlier during, I think it was during Shime's lead.
03:03And is it, and I hate even saying it out loud, but is it possible that they're paying the wrong guy $8 million to be their goaltender?
03:14No.
03:15No?
03:16No, I think Swamin's gotten off to a good start.
03:18So if you look in the big picture as far as, you know, the way the goaltending has played here early in the season,
03:24I think both Jeremy Swamin and Jonas Corpicello are off to really good starts.
03:28I would expect that Jonas Corpicello will get the start here tonight.
03:31You're playing on Saturday afternoon against the Colorado Avalanche,
03:34a team that Swamin gave you an opportunity to stay in that game and win.
03:38It was 2-1 heading into the third period.
03:41I would imagine that Swamin's going to get that start.
03:44So I think he has been as advertised.
03:47I think the issue, Greg, you know, so if we look at the big picture.
03:50Yeah.
03:50All right, Bruins won the first three, lost the next five.
03:53You know, but as far as offense and defense, if you look at the offense right now,
03:57it's actually in the middle of the pack in the league.
03:59That's fine.
04:00But the defense is in the bottom third, and that's not where you need to be.
04:04You know, this team has said if we're going to be competitive, we need to play to our identity.
04:09Stingy, hard to play against, not stingy enough.
04:11But to say that they're off to a good start, like they have three wins,
04:14but they're against teams that aren't that great.
04:16So it's, for me, when you look at a guy like Jeremy Swamin and how much we're paying him,
04:22and we go back to two seasons ago when he was lights out, and then the offseason he had last,
04:27you would just hope that he would get off to a much better start, in my opinion,
04:30than just getting three wins against some crappy teams.
04:33I think some of the issues, Courtney, with the goals that have been allowed in front of,
04:37whether it's Jeremy Swain or Yornis Korpisalo, in listening to the players and the coaches,
04:41they're too easy.
04:43They're tap-ins.
04:43They're backdoor plays.
04:45They're easily correctable plays that just simply cannot happen.
04:50I think, you know, if you look at what's happening with the goals against,
04:55more of it is happening because of what's happening in front of those goalies than the goaltenders themselves.
05:00In most cases, it's Mason Lurie.
05:03I mean, if you guys, well, no, no, no.
05:04You are a hater on him, no.
05:06You know, I think, you know, when everybody's watching a game and a goal goes in,
05:09you know, how many head-scratchers have you had?
05:11Like, oh, you really should have had that.
05:13I don't think that there are many that you can point to with a lot of the goals that have happened.
05:19But I think some of the issues are with game management.
05:21All right, let's take the Florida game, for example.
05:24You battled back 2-0 down, heading into the third period against the defending Stanley Cup champions.
05:29You tie it at 2.
05:30Then you go down 3-2.
05:31Tie it again at 3-3.
05:33So you've got just more than a minute left at that point.
05:36So how do you manage the puck?
05:38How do you manage the game?
05:39They didn't manage it properly, and because of that, they lost.
05:42And I think, Judd, when I look at this team,
05:46and I think Swayman and Corposalo are doing a good job,
05:49but you can't ask them to put up Vesnan-like performances night in and night out
05:56when they're paying good money to Swayman,
06:00but they're paying their defense, whether it's Zadoroff, whether it's McAvoy,
06:05they're paying their defense some good money, and I think that's where you're kind of...
06:09Good money, yeah.
06:10McAvoy's making over $9 million a year.
06:12You're falling short.
06:13Lindholm makes good money.
06:15You're actually falling short on where I thought your defense would be better than your offense
06:21because if you just look at where you're...
06:24That's what Marco Sturm thought also.
06:25I think that that's part of it.
06:28Hopefully, Hampus Lindholm is back on the ice.
06:30I think we didn't do the game, obviously, on Tuesday,
06:33but Hampus took a full morning skate.
06:35I think a lot of people expected, oh, he's going to step back into the lineup and play.
06:39He didn't.
06:39He's a difference maker for you on the back end when he's in.
06:43But I think to get back to...
06:45It's not just the defense, but getting back to game management.
06:48What are you doing with the puck when you have it?
06:51That was one of the things that Brick wanted to focus on when the Bruins were playing the game in Utah,
06:56and I think the Florida game is a perfect example.
06:59So just over a minute left, this is something that Marco Sturm talked about.
07:03What are you doing with the puck in the offensive zone or on the offensive side of the ice?
07:09And I think the Bruins didn't value it, and because of that, Florida had a chance to come back and win that game.
07:14What are people saying about Hampus behind the scenes?
07:17Because for him to get back in the lineup on Saturday, after he said he had a lot to build upon, obviously,
07:21he wasn't sure if he was going to get back in the lineup on Sunday.
07:24But then Tuesday as well, that's a worry for me.
07:27I haven't heard anything necessarily, Courtney.
07:29I think that all of us, you know, I think I was a little bit surprised he didn't play on Tuesday.
07:35I could understand why he wasn't playing in a back-to-back game.
07:38Playing Saturday in Colorado was actually a quicker turn, so the Bruins played 7 o'clock mountain time in Denver,
07:44and then you got to turn around, travel, and play at 5 o'clock mountain time in Salt Lake.
07:49So I don't think anybody, you know, and this is, you know, it sounds like it's a lower body, you know,
07:54it's some sort of soft tissue injury.
07:56So I don't think anybody was necessarily surprised that he didn't play on Sunday.
07:59But I think it raised an eyebrow that he didn't play on Tuesday.
08:03That doesn't mean that he's not hurt or unable to go, but he apparently didn't feel right.
08:09You got a long season, you know, when you want to make sure that whatever he has doesn't get worse.
08:14It just concerns me.
08:15Like, Chauncey Billups just took the under on 30 wins.
08:17Oh, dear.
08:18Which is of concern.
08:23Chauncey Billups.
08:26How did you look at an area as special teams, right?
08:30We always talk about special teams.
08:32We talk about the power play.
08:33How many questions does Chauncey have when he's asking?
08:38Hey, listen, Chauncey was a good player when he was here.
08:40Is there a parlay available?
08:42Yeah, I don't know.
08:43But when you think about the Bruins and their power play.
08:47I got the over on him being out of the Hall of Fame at 15 days, Curtis.
08:51I thought you were going to say word count for Wings.
08:54No, no.
08:55Carry on.
08:55No, no, no.
08:56To go back to the special teams and power play.
08:58He'll be able to join us when we do the Springfield Roadshow.
09:01Can I ask my question, man?
09:03Right outside.
09:03Right outside.
09:04We're going to talk Chauncey Billups and his gambling problems that he's having.
09:09Come on, Chauncey.
09:10What do they need to do better power play opportunities for them to make sure?
09:15Do they mess with the lines a little bit?
09:17No, I don't think it's a function of personnel, Wiggy.
09:20I think they're just not moving the puck fast enough.
09:24You know, a power play is not going to score every time.
09:25But I think what you want to be able to do is a power play is a great opportunity to either grab momentum or further momentum that you have.
09:34You know, and obviously, you know, the goal is to score, but you're not going to be able to do that every time.
09:38But I think the Bruins' issues too often are they're either too slow to move the puck or they have a hard time moving the puck consistently.
09:46You know, the power play early on.
09:48You know, what's funny is we talk about, you know, all right, they're 3-5 here to start the season.
09:51They've been in every single game.
09:53Every single game, they've had an opportunity to win those games.
09:56Even in the Vegas game, they battled back from 6-3.
09:59It's 6-5.
10:00It was 6-5 early in the third period.
10:02But the power play, to your point, has had opportunities to make a difference.
10:06And it's only done that, you know, it's done that sparingly here early in the season.
10:12It can certainly be better.
10:13It needs to be better for this team to be competitive.
10:15If you look at the next three games, though, you look at the Ducks, Avalanche, and Senators, those should be two winnable games.
10:21The Avalanche will be hard, but the other two games should be winnable.
10:24In your mind, what do they need to do in these three games to show that they are an okay hockey team this season?
10:30Well, I think one of the things is that they have to come out with a better start, and there has to be a little bit more desperation.
10:34We've seen the Bruins score first early on, but unfortunately, they've given some of those leads back.
10:43You know, I go back to the last game we did in Salt Lake City against the Utah Mammoth.
10:48You know, in that game, you know, the Bruins came out.
10:51I understand it was a back-to-back game.
10:53Didn't come out as strong as they would like.
10:55But the desperation that you saw at the end of that game, the desperation you saw at the end of the game in Florida, I think you want to see that a little bit more earlier in the game.
11:04And carry that as much as possible.
11:05I don't think there's any team, you know, everybody talks about, we're going to play a 60-minute game.
11:10Not going to happen.
11:11Okay?
11:11There are going to be times where the other team is going to push, or maybe there's a mistake or a little bit of a letdown.
11:17But you want to be able to try and, I think, if you can seize that opportunity a little bit earlier in the game, like against a team like the Ducks, I think that that will certainly help.
11:28I think in the bigger picture, if you look at where the Bruins are in the schedule, and this was always going to be a tough month.
11:34I want to say they play, they're in a span where they play five of six on home ice.
11:39This is where you've got to stay in the mix, and this is where they've got to cash in.
11:42It doesn't matter who the opponent is.
11:43Judd, they've only gotten, this organization has only gotten 79 games out of draft picks since 2021.
11:49None of those draft picks are on the roster currently.
11:52How much of an impact does that have on kind of the overall talent level and success of this team?
11:58Well, you know, I don't know exactly the numbers you're looking at.
12:02I think the other thing you have to look at is the Bruins also haven't had an opportunity, like a lot of teams that were in their position for a long time, to draft a lot of players.
12:11Let's take the Ducks, for example.
12:12This is a team that was completely torn down and then built back up.
12:17If you're happy to watch or go to the game tonight, you're going to see a lot of really good young talent.
12:22The Bruins are built differently.
12:24They're in a different spot than a team like Anaheim.
12:26This was a spot that Anaheim was in maybe about 10 years ago when they were competing for a Stanley Cup championship.
12:32But I think to your point, whether it's draft picks or anybody else that you have in your organization or in your system, you need to have that push.
12:41Everybody needs to be pushed in order to be better.
12:44I think that the Bruins felt as an organization, they didn't have that last year and it cost them.
12:49I was just going to say, because I always try to figure out the world of every different sport and the uniqueness of it.
12:58And a lot of times when we talk about draft picks and we talked to Millbury last year,
13:02it seems like draft pick type players generally take maybe two, three, four years before you get a return on that type of investment.
13:16Is that like something that we look at when it comes to some of these Bruins players?
13:22I believe it's what Patra was the second round draft pick.
13:26It was the second round pick.
13:27You know, when this was a kid, you know, if you want to go back to a guy like Matt Patra, he's surprised in training camp.
13:32He earned the opportunity to play in the National Hockey League that year because of the crazy rules that exist in the NHL.
13:40They weren't allowed to send him to the American Hockey League.
13:43If they sent him down, he would have to go back to junior and play.
13:48And, you know, at that point he had dominated junior.
13:51So I don't know how much of an advantage it would have been.
13:54But, you know, to your point, you know, I think, you know, when it comes to most picks around the National Hockey League,
14:00save guys who are top 10 picks, they're going to need time in the American Hockey League.
14:05I think one of the things, whether it's Brick or my old partner Bobby Beers, you know, Beers,
14:10those guys would talk about all the time, you know, having that opportunity,
14:13you need to learn in the American Hockey League before you're ready for National Hockey League games.
14:19I know you brought up Mason Lorai.
14:21Yeah.
14:21You know, he didn't spend a whole lot of time in the American Hockey League.
14:25And I think when it comes to defense, the hardest position for years in the NHL to learn at that level is D.
14:32Has he played defense before at all in his hockey career?
14:39He has.
14:40He has.
14:40He was not originally in defense, but if that's where you're going to.
14:43So before he played college hockey, he is, you know, he was not always a defenseman.
14:48He played forward when he was in Culver before he went to Ohio State.
14:53You know, so he's a guy who's still learning how to play D.
14:56And learning on the job.
14:58Absolutely.
14:58And, you know, obviously the learning curve at the National Hockey League level, even harder.
15:03Text for you, Judd, on the Subaru of New England text line.
15:07And this one is from Terry R. in Orlando.
15:12Has a 12-leg ducks parlay tonight.
15:15Wondering if you would take a look at that and give him some advice.
15:20Can't use the phone right now, but he has a phone call available coming up at 11.
15:24All right.
15:24Okay.
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