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This episode of To The Point provides an overview of the political situation in Bihar ahead of the upcoming assembly elections. The Congress Working Committee (CWC) convened in the state for the first time in 85 years.
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00:00Welcome viewers, you're watching To The Point. I am Preeti Chaudhary. We get into our big debate and it comes in from Bihar.
00:06The CWC of the Congress Party taking place in Bihar, a two-day meeting of the NDA in Bihar.
00:11Breaking it all down for you, but first up, as usual, allow me to take you through the headlines.
00:22Four dead and over 70 injured over violent statehood protests in Ladakh.
00:26Activist Sonam Wangchuk breaks his hunger strike and appeals for peace.
00:30Curfew imposed, gathering of more than five people banned.
00:38First big arrest in Pehelgaam attacks.
00:41Key elite operative Mohamed Kataria's arrest by JNK police.
00:46Kataria allegedly to have logistical support, given logistical support to Pehelgaam terrorists.
00:56Hunt for head of prominent ashram in Delhi intensifies after 17 girls accuse him of molestation and blackmail.
01:07WhatsApp chats reveal he promised foreign trips to girls and summoned them to his room late at night.
01:17Pujo fever in Kolkata, drowning under civic apathy.
01:21Parts of City of Joy remain flooded after heavy rains.
01:24At least 10 deaths reported.
01:31Mega showdown over potholes in Bengaluru.
01:34BJP Netas take to the streets against Congress government in Karnataka.
01:39Bengaluru BJP MLA fills potholes as a sign of protest.
01:43Karnataka High Court rejects plea by X challenging center's takedown orders.
01:54High Court asks X to comply with laws in India.
01:57Says regulation of social media is the need of the hour.
02:01All right, viewers, let's quickly get you up to speed with the latest news break that is coming in.
02:21Top sources say discussion of NDA parties will take place in the first week of October
02:26on seat-sharing arrangements where it comes down to Bihar.
02:29As we speak, viewers, there's a two-day meet of the NDA that is taking place in Bihar
02:34alongside the CWC that has taken place after many decades of the Congress Working Committee meeting
02:40in the state of Bihar as well.
02:42But all eyes on the NDA.
02:44There is much that has been discussed in terms of what will be the seat-sharing arrangement.
02:50Each ally of the NDA unit where it comes down to Bihar
02:54asking, demanding for the proverbial pound of flesh when it comes down to their seat-share.
03:00We've been given to understand the first week of October is when discussions will take place.
03:05The meeting will happen in Delhi.
03:07So all players where the NDA in Bihar is concerned will be in the national capital
03:12discussing the way ahead when it comes down to seat-sharing.
03:16As of now, no discussion on seat-sharing for Bihar Assembly polls has taken place.
03:32All right, viewers, let's quickly cut across now to the latest developments
03:35coming in from the state of Bihar.
03:38You have at one end the CWC, the Congress Working Committee, meeting in Bihar.
03:45The NDA has turned around and said this is all because the Congress is trying to muscle-flex,
03:50primarily wanting more number of seats in their alliance where the Mahagat Bandhan is Bihar is concerned.
03:58The Congress has turned around and said don't be scared.
04:00This is how it all played out.
04:0185 years later, Congress is back in Bihar with a Working Committee meeting.
04:12The grand old party hopes to right the success of recently concluded Vot Chori Yatra along with its allies,
04:20especially RJD.
04:22India Alliance tries to chip in the NDA unity by targeting the current Bihar Chief Minister, Nitish Kumar.
04:29Setting the tone for the Bihar poll campaign, Congress President Malik Arjun Khadge on Wednesday said,
04:36the BJP has mentally retired Chief Minister, Nitish Kumar, and considers him to be a liability.
04:42The extended Congress Working Committee meeting in poll-bound Bihar is focused on SIR irregularities.
05:11Along with election transparency and independence of election commission.
05:41BJP, on the other hand, is holding today's meeting with district-level leaders to finalize a potential candidates list for the coming Assembly election.
05:52NDA leaders, meanwhile, took a dig at Congress for deciding to return to Bihar after more than eight decades,
06:00calling it a futile attempt to claim any position in the coming Bihar Assembly election.
06:04The dates for election are yet to be announced, but battle lines in Bihar are drawn
06:34and have already taken their war positions in the battleground.
06:38With more Sami Singh in Patna, Bureau Report, India Today.
06:41All right, the battleground of Bihar, wide open.
06:48What to expect?
06:49The Congress's CWC has culminated this evening.
06:53And after many, many years taking place in Bihar,
06:57the NDA practically suggesting all an attempt to muscle flex, all not well,
07:01where the Mahagat Bandhan is concerned.
07:03On the other hand, the NDA also holding a two-day meet.
07:06But word coming in, where the NDA is concerned,
07:08the first week of October is going to be crucial because Delhi will decide the seat-sharing arrangement.
07:14Meanwhile, let's cut across to our panelists this evening.
07:16Joining me, Dr. Manisha Priam, political analyst,
07:19knows a thing more or two than most of us when it comes down to the state of Bihar.
07:23Professor Nawal Kishore, spokesperson RJD.
07:26Rajiv Ranjanji, national spokesperson JDU.
07:29Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam, national spokesperson, political and economic affairs BJP.
07:34Dr. Pooja Tripathi, spokesperson, Congress.
07:37Dr. Manisha Priam, lots of doctors today on the panel.
07:40But Dr. Manisha Priam, let's begin with you.
07:44Quick assessment, Dr. Priam.
07:46At one end, the CWC of the Congress taking place,
07:49a two-day meeting parallel of NDA.
07:52In the midst of it all, Dr. Manisha Priam is Prashant Kishore,
07:56who's come up with his own chitta saying that you have usurped land,
08:00which is, of course, the NDA leaders.
08:02So you can clearly see that, you know, the battle lines are clearly aligned.
08:07It's a battle between the Mahagat Bandhan,
08:10led this time by the Congress Party, ideologically at least.
08:15And on the other side, the NDA, led by the BJP very clearly.
08:19And you have a startup, really, in Prashant Kishore's,
08:23what should I call it, the munch.
08:25Not a political party as yet.
08:27He had to test political waters.
08:29And remember, he's a past master,
08:33having fought so many elections since 2014.
08:36His is now more than a decade-long engagement
08:39with the new format of politicizing
08:45in the social media era.
08:49And he knows how to play it well.
08:52His early degree and the Lalu Raj.
08:55Then suddenly you find that he's now switched gears
08:59because the early issues he was raising with the people,
09:03Padai, Likhai, Dawai,
09:05they were being raised by the Jan Adhikar Yatra
09:08that was led by the Congress Party and the RJD.
09:11So then he now switches gears.
09:13And now you see him frontally attack
09:15the state-level leaders of the BJP and the JDU.
09:20As yet, the top brass of the BJP in the center in Delhi,
09:24not the target of attack of Prashant Kishore.
09:27So clearly, political battle lines arraigned
09:29between two Ghatbandhans and one startup
09:32in the era of the social media.
09:34As far as the Mahagatbandhan is concerned,
09:37I think huge historic picture-making
09:40with lots of centuries behind them,
09:44the Congress Party.
09:45But I wonder whether they've been able to put up
09:47the pictures of all their chief ministers.
09:49The second or third last one, Jagannath Mishra,
09:53a dabbling candidate having been accused
09:55in the Fodder Scam case,
09:57was a Congress Party chief minister.
09:59His son is now with the BJP.
10:01So whether the Congress can claim
10:02the legacy of the entire history,
10:04that's to be seen,
10:05but a very brave step.
10:07This is an undoing of the Sitaran case.
10:09Your two-minute timer is up.
10:11I just want to remind all our panelists
10:12that each of our panelists,
10:14so they get uninterrupted time,
10:16get a two-minute timer on them.
10:18They can put their points ahead,
10:19and then we'll come and circle back to them.
10:21I want to bring in right now
10:22the Congress spokesperson,
10:24because the Congress had its CWC
10:26in the state of Bihar
10:27after many decades, Dr. Tripathi.
10:29And today was a day where,
10:31of course, at one end,
10:33the charge is that Congress only remembers
10:35a state for a CWC if an election is in order.
10:37But that aside,
10:38the charge is that you want to muscle flex
10:40in Patna, in Bihar,
10:43where Mahagadbandhan is concerned,
10:45so you can get,
10:46or at least maneuver to get more seats.
10:48So I think this is all media-created.
10:51Can I take a second and tell?
10:53I really love the gharita on Dr. Priyam.
10:56She had a very strong voice.
10:58But, you know,
10:5985 years later,
11:00after the Ramgari ICC session,
11:03where the theory of constitutional body
11:06was created,
11:07and Gandhiji,
11:08Baba-sabh,
11:09Ambedkarji,
11:10Patilhenu,
11:10everyone came up to the idea
11:12of one person,
11:13one vote.
11:13It's not a muscle flex to claim,
11:16you know,
11:16it's Mahagadbandhan is in a very strong position.
11:18Compared to NDA,
11:20where Nitish Kumar is every day
11:21losing his sleepover,
11:22he may not be a Egnash Inde too.
11:25LJP has given,
11:26Chirag Paswan has given a forthright warning,
11:28that if we don't have a seat,
11:30then we will think about it.
11:33The way that Mahanji and Chirag Paswan
11:34have dogfights every day in the open.
11:37But Mahagadbandhan is in a very safe seat,
11:40the seat sharing will be discussed.
11:42And what CWC today was historic,
11:44because post-independence,
11:45we were meeting for the first time
11:46in the same Sadakat Ashram,
11:48that has seen the whole freedom struggle
11:50in its own glory
11:51and in its own,
11:52you know,
11:53in its own heights,
11:54I'll say.
11:55And that's where we passed resolution
11:56against everything
11:57that's impacting the people of Bihar,
12:00people of India in particular,
12:02the onslaught of GST,
12:04unimaginable rates of GST.
12:05And now when they should apologize
12:07for derailing the economy,
12:09destroying MSMEs
12:10and loss of livelihood and jobs,
12:11they're actually asking you
12:12to do thank you Mohdiji
12:13and do a Bachar Tutsa,
12:15the way their job,
12:16people are being thrashed,
12:17the youth is being thrashed
12:19outside the BJP office in Patna
12:21and at the streets of Uttarakhand
12:22to Uttarakhand for the paper leaks
12:24and here for the jobs.
12:25And that's how,
12:26that's how the youth
12:27is being treated in the country.
12:29They're looking at a foreign policy
12:31which is in doldrums.
12:32Thank you, Narendra.
12:33A message trumps over the
12:35almost murderous tariff charges
12:38and H-1B visa changes
12:39and our tilt to China
12:41is how they're doing it.
12:43We have no clue.
12:44And sir, exercise
12:45and then again,
12:46today we also launched
12:48the Sankal Nayar Patr
12:49for the Ateep.
12:50Dr. Patry, your time is up.
12:51I want to bring in
12:52Dr. Zafir Islam.
12:53Like I said,
12:54many doctors there,
12:55always welcome to have them.
12:56But Dr. Islam,
12:57to bring you in on this,
12:58you might say that
12:59the Congress is trying
13:00to muscle flex
13:01to try and maneuver,
13:02manipulate on more seats.
13:03You have your own partner
13:04which is Chirag Paswan
13:06who's actually challenged
13:08the Congress to go it alone.
13:09But the larger question is,
13:11when it comes down
13:12to seat sharing,
13:13it's not a conundrum
13:14that just lies
13:14with the Mahagat Bandhan.
13:16Your own alliance
13:17is torn
13:18when it comes to
13:19the number of seats.
13:20You have a Chirag Paswan
13:22who's bargaining
13:23for an X number.
13:24You have a JDU
13:25and then you also need
13:26to keep your own lot
13:27and in the midst of it
13:28are smaller players.
13:29Well, let me first tell you
13:36very candidly
13:37that when you call it
13:39Mahagat Bandhan,
13:40after a few days,
13:41you will have to call it
13:41Mahalat Bandhan.
13:43Because the infighting
13:45between this Mahagat Bandhan
13:47partners,
13:48Congress party
13:49and particularly RJD
13:50is something
13:51is now out in public.
13:54The Congress party
13:56wants more than 70 seats.
13:58Last time they fought
13:59on 70 seats.
14:00They want more than 70 seats
14:01and claiming that
14:03Padhyatra and Sadhyatra
14:04they have done
14:05and they become entitled.
14:07They are now entitled
14:08for more seats
14:09than what they have
14:10fought last time.
14:11And Tejasvi Adho,
14:12he knows very well
14:13that Congress
14:13is a liability.
14:15They are trying to
14:16piggy bank
14:18on his shoulder
14:18or his back.
14:19So he very wisely
14:21has said that
14:21we will give you
14:2225 to 30 seats
14:24and that is something
14:25which is becoming
14:26bone of contention
14:27between the two
14:28Mahat Bandhan parties
14:31and you will see
14:32that this fight
14:33will be on the street
14:34between the two
14:35alliance partners
14:36sooner than later.
14:38Because Congress
14:39party says that
14:40Rahul Gandhi
14:41is a leader
14:43which everyone
14:45understands.
14:45But fact is
14:46Tejasvi knows
14:47that no one
14:48understands
14:48and no one
14:49is able to relate
14:49with Rahul Gandhi
14:50because he has
14:52been given notes
14:52and notes
14:54I don't know
14:54who prepares the note
14:55but when he speaks
14:56to the people
14:56everyone knows
14:57that he speaks
14:58something which
14:59doesn't make sense
15:00and that's why
15:01his own party
15:02lieutenants
15:03are overly concerned
15:04and they make
15:05this kind of statement
15:06yesterday
15:06Manish Tiwari
15:08made a statement
15:09and very clearly
15:09that his entitlement
15:12is based on
15:13certain reason
15:14that reason
15:15is because
15:15it comes from
15:16the first family
15:16his caliber
15:19his stature
15:21or his contribution
15:23does not
15:24entitle him
15:25to become
15:26even a member
15:27of parliament
15:28or get a ticket
15:29for becoming
15:29member of parliament
15:30that is something
15:31which his own
15:32party lieutenants
15:32are indicating
15:33as far as
15:34NDS is concerned
15:35Dr. Islam
15:35your time is up sir
15:36I'll circle back
15:38to you
15:38you talk about
15:39sir
15:39you talk about
15:40the congress
15:41but if you go
15:41by the strike rate
15:42the congress
15:42his strike rate
15:43really wasn't bad
15:44where the Lok Sabha
15:44elections were concerned
15:45in Bihar
15:46but I'll come back
15:47to you
15:47I want to bring
15:47in our other two
15:48guests
15:48Professor Nawal Kishore
15:50and Rajiv Ranjan
15:51Professor Kishore
15:52all of this
15:54is being viewed
15:55today
15:55the congress
15:56in Patna
15:56that ultimately
15:57it's going to
15:58come down
15:58to the number
15:59of seats
15:59that the congress
16:00might want
16:01it might be
16:02a lot more
16:02than what
16:03you are comfortable
16:04with
16:04and number
16:05two
16:05it's also
16:07Nawal Kishore
16:07have not been
16:10announced
16:10in terms of
16:11the chief
16:11ministerial candidate
16:12because there
16:13has been a push
16:14by the RJD
16:14especially during
16:15the vote chori
16:16yatra of
16:17Rahul Gandhi
16:17and Tejasviji
16:19where multiple
16:20times
16:21you had
16:22Tejasvi Yadav
16:22literally pushing
16:23Rahul Gandhi
16:24to make the
16:25announcement
16:25of him being
16:26as the CM
16:27face
16:27that still
16:27hasn't happened
16:28Pritiji
16:30multiple
16:31time is not
16:32important
16:32what is
16:33important
16:33in politics
16:34is appropriate
16:34time
16:35and on
16:36appropriate
16:36time
16:37it will be
16:38announced
16:38I can tell
16:39you
16:39he is going
16:40to be the
16:41only face
16:41who can be
16:42a chief
16:42ministerial face
16:43and you can
16:44see the reflection
16:45he is chairman
16:46of coordination
16:47committee
16:47he is leader
16:49of opposition
16:49he was deputy
16:50chief minister
16:51in the past
16:51five years
16:52you can see
16:52the record
16:53this is not
16:55hidden
16:55time
16:56it is already
16:57there in the
16:57public domain
16:58what is important
16:59for us
17:00is the change
17:01of government
17:02that is going
17:03to reflect
17:04the change
17:04of the status
17:05of the people
17:06itself
17:06and the people
17:07are looking
17:07to Tejasviji
17:08because they
17:09have seen him
17:10working on the
17:11basis of delivery
17:12in the past
17:1217 months
17:14his tenure
17:15they have seen
17:16that how
17:16the appointment
17:18letter was
17:19delivered in
17:20Gandhi Madan
17:20it was a
17:21historical moment
17:22that five lakhs
17:23people got
17:24this employment
17:25and three
17:26three and a half
17:27lakhs
17:28were brought
17:29to the process
17:30there were so
17:31many things
17:31which can be
17:32said about
17:33the 17 months
17:33but if you
17:34ask them
17:35to explain
17:36what they have
17:37done
17:38in the past
17:3917 months
17:39where India
17:40is there
17:40they will have
17:41to say nothing
17:41it is only
17:43it is only
17:44they are trying
17:45to imitate
17:46whatever
17:47announcement
17:48that we are
17:49making
17:49in terms of
17:50the pension
17:51you've done
17:51in terms of
17:52the women
17:52everything
17:53being taken
17:54and grabbed
17:55by India
17:55at the last
17:56moment
17:56people understand
17:58that what
17:58is the
17:58comparison
17:59that after
18:0020 years
18:00you are
18:01raising pension
18:01from 400
18:02to 11 years
18:031100s
18:04and similar
18:05are the cases
18:06that relates
18:06to youth
18:07commission
18:07and everything
18:08that that
18:09NDA is doing
18:10so what is
18:11what is our
18:12take is that
18:13we are going
18:14to take
18:15Bihar
18:15into a new
18:16phase
18:16of economic
18:17justice
18:17having record
18:19of social
18:21justice
18:21in the past
18:22we are
18:22working for
18:23economic
18:24justice
18:24and we
18:25will deliver
18:26when we
18:26get the
18:27opportunity
18:28and we
18:29are surely
18:29if the
18:30Bihar people
18:31are reflecting
18:31all right
18:32professor
18:33professor
18:33your time
18:34is up
18:34I'll come
18:35back to you
18:35allow me
18:36to come
18:36back to
18:36you
18:36two minutes
18:37I want
18:38to bring
18:38in
18:38Rajiv Ranjan
18:39ji
18:39who is also
18:39waiting
18:40patiently
18:40Rajiv Ranjan
18:41ji
18:41ismei
18:42sawaal yeh
18:42nahi hai
18:43ki
18:43congress
18:43ko
18:43kitini
18:44milni hai
18:44ya
18:45tejasbhi ji
18:46ka naam
18:47kyun
18:47nie
18:47announce
18:47ho raha
18:48ismei
18:48bada
18:48sawaal
18:49hai
18:49ke
18:49aap
18:50apna
18:50hi
18:50dekh
18:50lije
18:51kyunki
18:51seat
18:52sharing
18:52me
18:52siraf
18:52maha
18:53ghat
18:53bhandan
18:53ko
18:53dikkat
18:54nai
18:54ho raha
18:54hai
18:54baut
18:54sari
18:55dikkat
18:55joh
18:55ndi
18:56alliance
18:56hai
18:57udhar
18:57bhi
18:57ho raha
18:57hai
18:57bjk
18:59ki
18:59piko
19:00bhi
19:00ho raha
19:00raha
19:00raha
19:01raha
19:01raha
19:01raha
19:01raha
19:01raha
19:02raha
19:03raha
19:03raha
19:04raha
19:04raha
19:05raha
19:06raha
19:07dikhti ji
19:07aap
19:08nye
19:08chukhi
19:08ya
19:08bata
19:09ki
19:09beli
19:10dk
19:10kya
19:11cwc
19:12ho raha
19:12kongres
19:14kya
19:14nahi
19:14sahaj
19:14juta
19:15dr
19:32kuy
19:43kya
19:43chukhi
19:44chukhi
19:45foreign
19:55foreign
19:59foreign
20:09foreign
20:13is
20:43I think we are having a bit of a
21:13video connect issue with
21:15Dr. Manisha Priyam. The minute we have her, I'm
21:17going to go to her. But final comments
21:18from all our viewers, two minutes each. I want to
21:20begin with Dr. Pooja Tripathi.
21:23Dr. Tripathi, Rajiv Ranjan
21:25there giving a lesson
21:27or two, not just in political
21:28etiquette, but also political
21:31efficiency and efficacy
21:33in terms of
21:35Khadgeji attacking
21:36Nitish Kumar Ji.
21:39It's not just Khadgeji
21:41who's attacking Nitish Kumar. Look at how these
21:43panelists across
21:44your panel, the spectrum of panelists.
21:47There's everybody speaking about
21:49Bihar, but Bharti Janta Party
21:51spokesperson is obsessed about Rahul
21:53Gandhi. It's not an election
21:55for who is more obsessed about
21:56Rahul Gandhi. It's an election for Bihar.
21:59And that's what the whole question is. The Bihar
22:01youth are asking, where are the jobs?
22:03I'll go back to the Sankalma Patra
22:05of Bharti Janta Party in 2020.
22:07When you teach us political efficiency
22:09in antiquity, we don't need, we don't
22:11really need lessons on
22:12Gandhiji, on Bose, on Nehru and
22:14Patel and Baba Sabir.
22:16These are the towering jans on
22:18whose our legions he stands on.
22:20And despite all their
22:22differences, what stands them
22:24apart is, you know, they both
22:26had immense respect for
22:28Mahatma Gandhi in all his
22:29he took a lot of
22:31path, he took a different path, but
22:34every day, every day he had his
22:35utmost respect for Gandhiji
22:37and Nehruji. And that's what
22:39politics was all about.
22:40It was not about bringing your
22:41mother into politics.
22:42My mother is not
22:43in politics.
22:44My mother is not
22:44in politics.
22:45And in politics, there are
22:46issues that are happening.
22:47It was not that thing.
22:49And when we say the youth is
22:50asking, when
22:52Modi Ji said that
22:54where is the sugar mill?
22:56People are asking, when will
22:58the OPD in Darbanga aim start?
23:00When will the 192
23:01bridges that are being
23:02collapsing day in and day off,
23:04when will they be repaired?
23:05One crore self-help groups
23:06were promised in 2020.
23:07Where are they?
23:0917 lakh jobs were promised
23:10in 2020.
23:11BJP, Naya Pat,
23:12Lansakal Pat in 2020.
23:14Where are they?
23:15You know, you just
23:15bringing in things.
23:17And what Gharke Ji said
23:19is there for everyone to
23:21see.
23:21It's not just, it's there
23:22and you are also talking
23:23about.
23:24And that's why you said
23:25Nitiji is losing sleepover.
23:26He may not be turned into
23:28Egnash Inde too.
23:29And that's, and Mahatma
23:30Kathmandan is very solid.
23:31And I would really take
23:33a leaf out of
23:34Professor Nawal Kishore
23:35and I really liked
23:36how Tejaswi work
23:37actually in the round.
23:38Dr. Tupati, your time is up.
23:40I want to bring in
23:40Dr. Manisha Priyam
23:41to encapsulate for us,
23:43Dr. Priyam.
23:44Because right now
23:45where you're standing
23:45at the crossroads,
23:46elections still,
23:48over a month away,
23:49what are the issues
23:50that lie with the
23:51Mahagatbandan
23:52and those for the NDA?
23:54Can you detail that
23:55for our viewers?
23:56I think the first thing
23:57about the NDA right now
23:59is that there is
24:00no Nitish Kumar
24:02at the helm.
24:03For all the elections
24:04I have seen,
24:05it has been
24:06Bihar mein Bahaar hai,
24:08phir se Nitish Kumar hai,
24:09Nitish hai nish hai,
24:11et cetera.
24:12Now here is a silent
24:13chief minister.
24:15And I think the best
24:16cover-up of Bihari politics
24:17has been
24:18that it's a chief minister
24:19who's unwell
24:20at the sunset
24:21of his political career
24:22and very respected.
24:24For me,
24:24I have a lot of praise
24:25for a lot of things done,
24:27especially until 2015.
24:29But I don't know
24:30why political change
24:31has not been possible.
24:33So what is the leadership?
24:34Is the prime minister
24:35going to fight
24:36the election for Bihar?
24:37So the JDU
24:38is particularly leaderless
24:39and any amount
24:41of speculation
24:41as to who rules the JDU,
24:43whether it's the BJP,
24:44B-team
24:45or whatever's happening,
24:46is for the JDU
24:47to tell us.
24:48But I clearly don't understand
24:49what's up there.
24:50Now for Chirag Paswan
24:51to come and make
24:52those statements,
24:53let him turn back
24:54and see how many seats
24:56they are able to fight
24:57on their own.
24:58And I think the issues
25:00of Lutbandhan, etc.,
25:02Jagdeep Chokarji is dead.
25:04Otherwise,
25:04he would have pointed out
25:05to you
25:06that how many of those
25:08are released,
25:10you know,
25:11even those who Nitish
25:12had convicted
25:13with fast-track votes
25:14on the eve of the election,
25:16even our darling NDA
25:18has released a lot of them.
25:20I as a Bihari know
25:21there is a month ahead.
25:23I will not say it today.
25:24But I think everybody
25:25must be thinking,
25:26including former
25:27Home Secretary R.K. Singh
25:28who spilled the beans.
25:30As far as the
25:30Mahagat Bandar is concerned,
25:32I think the real issue is
25:33whether the Congress
25:34will be able to pick up
25:36an organizational strength
25:37or not.
25:38I mean,
25:38the RJD remains
25:40in pole position,
25:41but didn't do so well
25:42in the Lok Sabha elections,
25:44did well in the earlier
25:45Assembly elections.
25:46So one can remain,
25:48you know,
25:49somewhere in between.
25:50The CPIML does very well
25:51on the southern banks
25:52of the Ganges.
25:53They've done very well
25:54in the Lok Sabha elections
25:55and Rahul Gandhi's
25:57Yatra has done well.
25:58He's certainly a part of it.
25:59You know,
26:00we've...
26:02Okay.
26:04Ma'am,
26:04your time is up.
26:05We'll try and give you
26:06a little bit more
26:06after the,
26:07you know,
26:07we have,
26:08if we have time.
26:09But Dr.
26:09Said Zafar Islam,
26:11as elucidated by
26:12Dr. Manisha Priam
26:14as well,
26:14you know,
26:15if there are fault lines
26:16between the Mahagat Bandar
26:17at the cost of repeating myself,
26:19there are enough fault lines
26:20that exist
26:21within the NDA camp
26:22as well.
26:23And one of those
26:24biggest ones
26:25happens to be
26:26the person
26:27who is in charge
26:28of the state of Bihar.
26:30And I'll ask the same question
26:31to Rajiv Ranjanji as well,
26:32which is Nitish Kumar.
26:37Well,
26:38there is absolutely
26:39no fault line
26:39as far as India is concerned
26:41because
26:41it's a very cohesive group.
26:43We understand
26:44what is the responsibility
26:45each party has.
26:47As a group,
26:49what is the responsibility?
26:50Together we have to deliver
26:52and serve the people
26:55of the state.
26:56We are continuously
26:57focusing on people,
27:00their expectation
27:01and our delivery.
27:03And that is something
27:03which has worked for us
27:05in every other state
27:06and in the general election
27:08as well.
27:09So we are not overly concerned
27:10rather we are not concerned
27:12at all about
27:13whether
27:13RJD
27:15and Mahagat Bandar
27:17and partners
27:18they have
27:20undertaken
27:21Yatras
27:22and they are pursuing
27:23X, Y, Z
27:25because we know exactly
27:27that
27:27despite their best effort
27:29they all know that
27:30they are the people
27:31who have actually
27:32misled
27:34the people of Bihar,
27:35mistreated
27:35the people of Bihar
27:36and did nothing
27:37for the people of Bihar.
27:39So
27:39all the
27:40blessing,
27:41the confidence,
27:42the support
27:44actually
27:44peoples of Bihar's
27:46support
27:46is for
27:47the Bharatiya Janda
27:48Party
27:49and NDA partners
27:50and we are
27:51absolutely
27:51confident
27:54that
27:54we will
27:55have
27:56not edge
27:57we will have
27:58massive edge
27:58over
27:59Mahagat Bandar
28:00parties
28:01or group.
28:02As far as
28:03Nitish Kumar is concerned
28:04I mean
28:04his stature
28:05his
28:06approach
28:07his
28:08acceptability
28:09his
28:10vision
28:11everything
28:12has worked
28:12for Bihar
28:13and the people
28:14of Bihar
28:14are extremely
28:15happy
28:15seeing him
28:16as the leader
28:17of the
28:18government
28:20and we are
28:21fighting this
28:22election
28:23under his
28:23leadership
28:24and
28:25from the
28:27state
28:27and the
28:27center
28:28it is the
28:30honorable
28:30prime minister
28:31so together
28:31two
28:32big face
28:33in Bihar
28:35will make
28:35all the
28:36difference
28:36for
28:36the
28:37NDA
28:38Dr.
28:38Aslam
28:39your time
28:39is up
28:40I want to
28:40bring in
28:41Dr.
28:41Professor
28:41Nawal Kishor
28:42into this
28:43conversation
28:43from the
28:44RGD
28:44Professor
28:45Kishor
28:45you have
28:45said
28:45it is not
28:46about
28:46multiple
28:46times
28:47that
28:47Rahul
28:48Gandhi
28:48has been
28:48pushed
28:49to make
28:49the
28:50announcement
28:50that
28:50Tejas
28:51Piyada
28:51will be
28:52the chosen
28:53choice
28:54as a
28:54chief
28:54ministerial
28:55face
28:55it is
28:55an
28:56appropriate
28:56time
28:56when
28:57is
28:57that
28:57appropriate
28:58time
28:58sir
28:58number
28:59one
28:59and
29:00number
29:00two
29:00especially
29:00when it
29:01comes
29:01down
29:01to
29:01seed
29:02sharing
29:02because
29:02there
29:03is
29:03a
29:03lot
29:03of
29:04pulls
29:04and
29:04tugs
29:05where
29:05that
29:05is
29:06concerned
29:06Prithi
29:09it is
29:10fast
29:10approaching
29:10you
29:11soon
29:11hear
29:12the
29:12name
29:12of
29:12the
29:12SVG
29:13and
29:14if
29:14you
29:14look
29:14at
29:14the
29:15map
29:15of
29:16BR
29:16political
29:16map
29:17of
29:17BR
29:17you
29:18will
29:18hear
29:18the
29:18sound
29:18from
29:19every
29:19corner
29:19that
29:20SVG
29:20is
29:21going
29:21to
29:21be
29:21the
29:21next
29:22game
29:22of
29:22BR
29:22not
29:23because
29:23of
29:23anything
29:24else
29:24but
29:25the
29:25way
29:25he
29:25has
29:25proven
29:26he
29:26has
29:31that
29:32job
29:32means
29:33SV
29:33Yadav
29:33everybody
29:34knows
29:35that
29:35if
29:35there
29:35has
29:35to
29:35be
29:36change
29:36in
29:36Bihar
29:36it
29:37is
29:38only
29:38possible
29:38under
29:39the
29:39leadership
29:39of
29:40SV
29:40Yadav
29:40because
29:41he
29:41has
29:41delivered
29:42so
29:42and
29:42everybody
29:43has
29:43suffered
29:44in
29:44the
29:44past
29:4420
29:45years
29:45you
29:46must
29:46know
29:47that
29:47it
29:47took
29:4820
29:48years
29:49to
29:49raise
29:50pension
29:50400
29:51from
29:51400
29:52to
29:521100
29:53it
29:53took
29:5320
29:54years
29:54to
29:55move
29:55the
29:55changes
29:56relating
29:56to
29:56women
29:56it
29:57took
29:5720
29:58years
29:58to
29:58changes
29:58about
29:59our
30:00youth
30:00so
30:00everything
30:01that
30:01people
30:02have
30:02been
30:02informed
30:02and
30:03they
30:03know
30:03that
30:03and
30:04that
30:04is
30:04the
30:05reason
30:05why
30:05on
30:06the
30:06roads
30:06of
30:06Bihar
30:07when
30:07SVG
30:07comes
30:08out
30:08everyone
30:09comes
30:09and
30:09approaches
30:10as
30:10a leader
30:11of
30:11Bihar
30:12so
30:12we
30:13are
30:13completely
30:14confident
30:14that
30:15the
30:15alliance
30:16that
30:16is
30:16going
30:18to
30:18have
30:18Maha
30:19impact
30:19on
30:20the
30:20politics
30:20of
30:20Bihar
30:21and
30:21the
30:22way
30:22it
30:22has
30:22been
30:22seen
30:23it
30:23is
30:23clearly
30:24seen
30:24so
30:28that
30:29we
30:29are
30:29making
30:30this
30:31government
30:31is
30:32only
30:32implementing
30:34those
30:35things
30:35it
30:36says
30:36that
30:36they
30:37do
30:37not
30:37have
30:37any
30:37ideology
30:38they
30:38do
30:38not
30:39have
30:39any
30:39development
30:40idea
30:40they
30:41are
30:41only
30:41trying
30:42to
30:42imitate
30:43only
30:43to
30:44answer
30:44the
30:44anti-incumbency
30:45in the
30:46past
30:4620
30:46years
30:46they
30:47have
30:47nothing
30:47new
30:48to
30:48say
30:48therefore
30:49they
30:49are
30:49taking
30:50our
30:50announcement
30:51and
30:52approaching
30:52halfway
30:53in
30:54place
30:54of
30:54200
30:55units
30:55of
30:55electricity
30:56they
30:56are
30:57announcing
30:57125
30:57in
30:58place
30:58of
30:591500
30:59they
31:00are
31:00announcing
31:001100
31:01that
31:01shows
31:02that
31:02how
31:03helpless
31:03Nitish
31:04Kumar
31:05and
31:05BJP
31:06is
31:06in
31:06the
31:06front
31:07of
31:07the
31:07art
31:07and
31:08that
31:08is
31:08how
31:08the
31:09change
31:09is
31:09going
31:10to
31:10come
31:10all right
31:11professor
31:11your time
31:13is up
31:13sir
31:13I want
31:14to
31:14quickly
31:14bring
31:14in
31:14Rajiv
31:15Ranjanji
31:15for a
31:15final
31:16comment
31:16I'm
31:16afraid
31:16we
31:16won't
31:17have
31:17the
31:17time
31:17to
31:17go
31:17on
31:18for
31:18further
31:18comments
31:19on
31:19this
31:19but
31:19Rajiv
31:19Ranjanji
31:20chahe
31:27niti
31:28niti
31:42Niti
31:45niti
31:49niti
31:50niti
31:52niti
31:55in
31:55in
31:56po
31:56inf
31:57which is the people who talk about anti-incumbency,
32:00who have been with this mandate for this day,
32:02first of all.
32:04And Nitis Kumar ji is a visionary leader,
32:07who has not seen university's position.
32:12Now, the people of the party who say that Nitis Kumar ji copy.
32:17It doesn't matter.
32:19The fact that these flyovers,
32:22which are the 40 universities,
32:25So, I want to tell you,
32:55foreign
33:02foreign
33:09foreign
33:14foreign
33:19foreign
33:24Thank you very much.
33:54Thank you all our guests for joining us on this debate
34:02because it's only going to heat up in times to come
34:04and to the point we'll be covering every aspect, every facet
34:08of this election very closely from the ground and also from the studio.
34:12We're going to ship focus right now to Hong Kong and southern China
34:17which has been hit by one of the most catastrophic typhoons ever.
34:22Typhoon Ragasa has unleashed one of the fiercest storm and winds
34:28where China and Hong Kong is concerned.
34:32Rescue teams are racing against time where entire neighborhoods,
34:36colonies are completely inundated.
34:38Devastating visuals coming in.
34:52The fiercest storm of the year unleashed its wrath on South China and Hong Kong.
35:04Typhoon Ragasa bringing relentless winds, devastating floods and deadly landslides.
35:10As millions face the storm's fury, entire communities have been submerged,
35:16shattered and fighting for survival.
35:20Typhoon Ragasa, the most powerful tropical cyclone of the year,
35:25tore through southern China leaving destruction in its wake.
35:31Hong Kong faced ferocious winds and surging floodwaters that broke hotels
35:37and swept into city streets, forcing emergency shutdowns and widespread evacuations.
35:50A massive landslide ripped open a city street,
35:54swallowing vehicles and creating a dangerous chasm.
35:57While Taiwan's Guangfu township prepared for fresh delusions,
36:04with residents rushing to safety as sirens bled.
36:08Most of the typhoons, when they develop in the western Pacific,
36:13then they move towards the west.
36:16And the typhoon can continue to develop
36:21if it doesn't get impeded by land or by other dry air and so on.
36:26And so this time, Ragasa developed in the western Pacific
36:29and then moved through the Luzon Strait
36:32over very warm waters and under favorable atmospheric conditions.
36:38And so therefore, it gets unimpeded
36:41as it goes through the Luzon Strait
36:43and goes right straight into the South China Sea.
36:45And because of that, it can continue to develop
36:48and therefore became the strongest typhoon this year to hit China.
36:56China's marine authorities issued the highest red wave warning,
37:02forecasting storm surges up to nine feet
37:05in the populous Pearl River Delta.
37:07Authorities are facing against time to protect millions.
37:11Now there's almost no wind.
37:16Mangkut in 2018 was much stronger.
37:18I could feel the difference,
37:19but now I feel like everything is as usual.
37:25Businesses suffered heavy losses
37:27as floodwaters swept through markets and homes.
37:31In Shenzhen, clean-up efforts have begun,
37:34but damage is extensive.
37:35The government told us to evacuate vertically,
37:40just to stay on the second or the third floor
37:42for those of us who were not directly in the path of the water.
37:49Typhoon Ragasa's fury is a stark reminder
37:52of nature's power.
37:54As floodwaters recede and skies begin to clear,
37:58the true cause of Ragasa's destruction
38:00comes into focus.
38:02Homes lost, lives appended,
38:05and a long road to recovery ahead.
38:08But in the face of nature's fury,
38:10resilience shines the brightest.
38:13Bureau Report, India Today.
38:15Keep a keen eye on all developments
38:17coming in from China and Hong Kong viewers.
38:20But that's the end of To The Point,
38:21but I'm going to leave you with a very special interview
38:23that was done by my colleague, Maria Shakil,
38:26with the latest National Award winner,
38:29Vikrant Massey.
38:37After having received National Film Award,
38:41Vikrant, has it sunk in?
38:43Not yet.
38:44Hasn't sunk in yet.
38:45Yeh kal ki hi baat hai.
38:47And here we are chatting about it.
38:50And abhi tak sinkin huwa niya thoda samayir lagega mire khayal se.
38:54A long, a long-awaited dream has been fulfilled.
38:59But as I always say,
39:01that the journey has only just begun now.
39:05Would you say that this is a dual recognition,
39:08first for you personally,
39:10because it's the best actor,
39:12and also for the film, 12th fame?
39:15Yes.
39:17It's a great honor.
39:18I think I've said this before as well,
39:19that winning the National Award,
39:22or even being considered for the National Film Awards,
39:25I think is an achievement in itself.
39:28In such a large country,
39:30we know we speak about the Hindi film industry,
39:33but today the lines have blurred.
39:35We talk about regional cinema as well.
39:37The amount of films we make,
39:39we're making more than 5,000 films in 365 days.
39:42And to be conferred with the best actor award,
39:45and also the best film.
39:47I mean, out of 5,000,
39:48or more than 5,000 films,
39:50to be recognized by the Honorable Government,
39:52I think it's an achievement that everyone dreams of.
39:56Would you say that this is a validation,
39:58but also a responsibility?
40:00Absolutely.
40:01Absolutely.
40:03You know, Binot sir and I were chatting the other day,
40:05in fact,
40:06that it's going to be more challenging
40:10to go out there and represent the common man,
40:13be the voice for the voiceless,
40:15after this recognition.
40:16He's won six National Awards.
40:17My journey's only just begun.
40:19But even,
40:20you know,
40:22sort of the fact that you've been conferred
40:24with the National Film Award,
40:26there is a certain privilege.
40:29There is that pedestal you've been put on
40:31by the people of your country,
40:33and you have to go out there,
40:35represent them,
40:36and there is,
40:37with great power comes great responsibility.
40:40And,
40:41yeah,
40:43so once this sinks in,
40:44once I'm able to sort of,
40:45you know,
40:46go back to ground zero after this,
40:48the idea is to,
40:49is to continue the journey,
40:51is to go out there and represent the common man.
40:53And a 20-year-old boy's dream has come true,
40:57and it's a privilege
40:58that your first National Award
41:01is with an icon.
41:03Those are your words.
41:04Yes.
41:04And you were sitting next to Shah Rukh Khan,
41:06Rani Mukherjee.
41:07And I remember all of you looking at the medal,
41:11and looking at it with great admiration and rightly so.
41:15Yeah,
41:16I mean,
41:16it definitely is an honor to be sharing
41:18the Best Actor Award with Mr. Shah Rukh Khan.
41:21He's a once-in-a-lifetime legend.
41:26To be seated next to him,
41:28to be mentioned
41:30in the same breath as him
41:31for the National Film Award this year
41:33was something which
41:35you can only dream of.
41:38And,
41:39while we were seated there,
41:41it was,
41:41it was
41:42our first National Film Award,
41:44even Rani ma'am,
41:45Shah Rukh sir and me.
41:47And the moment we got back,
41:48and Shah Rukh sir was like,
41:49I want to wear this.
41:50And he immediately,
41:52he has that childlike quality within him,
41:54and that's probably what keeps him going
41:56day in, day out.
41:57And all of us
41:58really wanted to touch it and feel it,
42:00and we took it out,
42:01we wore it,
42:02and yeah,
42:03I mean,
42:03it was something we wanted to sort of cherish
42:05there and then at that point in time.
42:07National Film Award,
42:15Vikrant,
42:15has it sunk in?
42:16Winning the National Award
42:18or even being considered
42:19for the National Film Awards,
42:21I think,
42:21is an achievement in itself.
42:23You were sitting next to
42:24Shah Rukh Khan,
42:25Rani Mukherjee.
42:26It definitely is an honor
42:27to be sharing the Best Actor Award
42:29with Mr. Shah Rukh Khan.
42:30What happened to
42:33that public statement
42:34that you had put out?
42:36Is there some character
42:37that you're really itching to play?
42:39Vikrant Messi has to prioritize
42:41an offer which has come in
42:43from South India
42:44versus Bollywood,
42:45what will you do?
42:46It's often said that perhaps
42:47South's storytelling ethos
42:50is better than Bollywood.
42:51I disagree.
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