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00:00Hey everybody, welcome to Matt Connerton Unleashed, the AF edition, because this version of the
00:06show of course is strictly online, uncensored, unfiltered, truly unleashed. And I have with us
00:12Jagger from the band Vices Inc. Hello Jagger. Hello, how you guys doing? Good, very well. So
00:19we're going to be talking about something. Now I did talk it up of course on Saturday on the radio
00:25show, Saturday morning, of course, which we do every Saturday from 9 a.m. to noon, Vices Fest,
00:33which is a pretty big deal. And I did go through the lineup too on the air. A lot of these bands,
00:39I'll let you kind of talk about some of them, but a lot of these bands we've had on the show,
00:45many of them we have not had on the show yet, but we've heard about them. Their names have come up
00:52on the show. So we know that there are people that we should be looking at having on. And of
00:57course, and a few of them that I'm not familiar with, but now let me get that flyer up too. So
01:03when is, so Vices Fest, this is coming up this coming weekend, Labor Day weekend, correct?
01:09Yes, it is. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. So people can recover on Monday because of the holiday,
01:14you know? That's true. That's true. That is well-timed. And this year you're doing it at the
01:19Strand Theater in Dover, which is a beautiful venue. Definitely. It's gorgeous.
01:25Why Dover? Because I think last year it was in Portland, correct? Or maybe I'm wrong about that.
01:30Well, you're right. It was in Portland at a place called the Cavern, which doesn't exist anymore.
01:35There's multiple reasons why we decided to relocate it into a Devin venue. One, we wanted
01:43something that was bigger. The Cavern and it seemed like the areas that we could book at in the Portland
01:51area, wasn't suffice. And the ones that were suffice were too big. So we had to, we needed
01:59something in the middle of that and come around with that. Plus we thought, you know, the whole
02:05point of it is bands from the Northeast area. That's the main focus of it. I mean, we always
02:10listed like bands from the Northeast and beyond, which is a true statement, but it's really
02:15the heart of it is like New England bands for the most part. And we felt like, okay, well,
02:20we have a lot of bands from New Hampshire and we should, you know, obviously give that a chance
02:25too, instead of just being a Portland thing, because we feel like Vices Inc. is, is a New
02:31England band. I'm, I'm from Boston. Eleanor, the lead center is from, from Massachusetts too.
02:36So we're not really just a main band. That's it just, you know, obviously that's where we are
02:41stationed because that's where our practice space and everything else is, but we're New
02:45England for the most part. So, um, it was mainly for those reasons. And I been to the stream
02:53before and I, I fell in love with it because it's, it's, it's a great venue for stuff like
02:57this and the comfort level. The other place we played at didn't have seats, just has seats
03:02and stuff. So it's more cover level for the fan base too.
03:07That makes sense. Um, yeah, you are, as you mentioned, uh, so you're a, you're a Portland
03:12band, uh, Vices Inc. Um, and I know there's, there's a great, uh, there's a great music scene
03:17there when you, well, when did, let me ask this, when did Vices Fest start? Is this the
03:23second year or the third year or second year? Um, so what happened was, uh, the band's been
03:30around for a few, for years, few years, but it wasn't until 2023, we actually played shows
03:35because of COVID and stuff. So we're a COVID band and all we did was record and record
03:41and record. And then when we felt safe enough to go out into the open, we, um, we started
03:47in 2023. I know that maybe a little late in the game, but we felt that's what's the best
03:51bet. Just be sure and stuff.
03:53Yeah. And, um, so we went on, obviously we played in the New England area, but we actually
03:59went on a real tour of, uh, as far as West as Indiana. And we went to Kentucky, Ohio and
04:05all this stuff. And we met a lot of bands and we became fans of the bands and friends
04:10of the bands. And we thought, well, what, what a good way to showcase some of the bands
04:14we met in a different area that they can't get to. Um, and, and put them all together in
04:20one show and set, see people, what we saw and heard, and hopefully they become fans of
04:25them too.
04:27Right. Um, it's a huge undertaking. I don't have to tell you, I mean, I'm impressed and
04:34I look at the lineup and it's like, Oh my God, like I'm curious. And I may have asked you
04:40this before when you were on the radio show, but like, what are some of the surprises that
04:46you've encountered when putting a, putting together a three day festival again, and anyone
04:51outside the industry might not know this, but that's a, just putting together a one day
04:57festival is an enormous undertaking. I mean, what, what, what are some, some things, maybe
05:02some surprises or issues that you ran into planning this either last year or this year?
05:08Well, so last year was, I can't, it was a blur to me because we decided to do this kind of
05:13like a last minute and it was done in four weeks and I still can't believe I did it.
05:17I don't, I still don't know how I did it to be honest with you. People ask me all the time,
05:21like, how did you do that? And like, I really don't know. It was like, that whole month was
05:26a blur to me, like 24 seven working on that. So, um, I didn't, I, what I learned from that
05:32was maybe I need to start to start earlier than four weeks. That's the first thing I learned.
05:37Yeah.
05:37How much in depth you can get the community involved in it. Um, the first one, I didn't
05:43do that as well because I, well, I didn't have time and B maybe, uh, you know, I didn't
05:49understand the circumstances to make that work, but reaching out to the community, having the
05:54community be part of this was a bigger deal to me and, um, which worked out really well,
06:00especially when you're, you're, you're showcasing bands from this area or from the area that you
06:04are in and they want to work with those bands or groups, whatever too, or, um, maybe, um,
06:12you know, get their fame base and be part of whatever they're doing. And I mean, I, I think
06:17it's a, it, it, it, uh, you get people involved in that. We're over the whole, we're involved
06:25with, we'll be part of it too, or whatever, you know, who's, you know, who was working with
06:29us. And so I guess surprise wise, I mean, it was nothing like, I mean, I'm learning
06:36everything all the time. I learned something yesterday. So it's like, it's a constant battle
06:39of, Oh, is this going to work or that's not going to work kind of then. But I'm just like,
06:44you know, when we first originally did it, it was one day, which was smart enough, but
06:49the three day undertaken, it was a different animal for sure. How do you make it work? Like
06:56things work quicker. And like little things like learning, like most of the, most of the
07:00shows be backlined instead of having individual, you know, equipment for each band. Cause there's
07:05no space important. We can put all that stuff, you know? Right. Right. And the changeover
07:10would be insane. So the hoodliners all have their own equipment and the rest of the groups
07:15are sharing the backline and stuff like that. You learn like little things that make it run
07:20smoothly, you know? Yeah. I just remember back to, so it's been a long time since I've,
07:26actually put on a show, uh, that I was promoting. Um, I, I kind of moved out of that side of the
07:32business, but I used to do, you know, even just doing a show with five bands on it, you know,
07:39back when I was promoting live shows, it was, um, you know, it can be challenging and stressful.
07:44So I can't even imagine, I mean, obviously you're handling it well and, and you don't,
07:49you don't seem like you're, uh, terribly, uh, stressed out. I don't know how you feel on the inside,
07:54but you're, you're outwardly projecting, uh, what seems to be a certain calmness about it all.
08:00So that's good. Well, I mean, this is a thing that me being stressed or showing that it's not
08:05going to help anybody else. So something has to be stable in this. So with that being said,
08:11um, uh, I'm excited about it because I've, we, we were, we're able to undertake a lot of things
08:18in such a short period of time, but we got a lot of good music, a lot of good bands all going to be
08:23under that same roof, which to me is amazing. And getting them to be part of that, you know,
08:30and, you know, and obviously, uh, uh, looks being excited about this, uh, uh, festival was,
08:36was a big deal to me, but it's all the styles of music. So it was like, it's like, that's how a
08:41festival should be anyways. It should be, you know, you should have very, you know, variety,
08:45but, um, I've got, uh, you know, I've got a good amount of people working, working with us,
08:53working for me. Um, but I'll, I'll be straight with you. Like most of the work was, I did it,
08:58you know, and I don't really know how I did it. I just do it. I don't really know. It's like you said,
09:03you, you know, you did book in all this stuff. And sometimes it's just easier for you to do it
09:07than have someone else do it. Yeah. And it's easier for you not to do yourself than to have
09:13these help teach somebody or explain it to somebody. Right. I just do it, you know? And
09:19if it's done, I mean, I've done booking for years, but I've never done anything like this before,
09:24but obviously it was a, it was an easier segue because I've done booking with bands and then
09:29with bands. And, you know, when you're doing multiple bands, you got little problems like,
09:34Oh, I need stage plots or something like that. And you're waiting for them to do it because you,
09:38the sound guys want that stuff. So, you know, there's little things like that. You just got to
09:43keep, you know, harping on them till they push, you know, you know, give you the stuff you need
09:48and stuff. Right. Or have them, you know, advertise this and, you know, promote, promote it because,
09:54you know, obviously social media is really important today. So you have to do that to get,
09:57to get, uh, your fan base out there for, for, you know, so they know what's going on. So you have to,
10:04that's probably more work in getting the bands to do their, what they, their part than me doing
10:08my part. That's really the truth. Yeah. Yeah. Um, do you want to talk about, uh, some of the bands
10:14that are going to be performing? Well, like you said, quite a few of these bands, you, you know,
10:20and you have on your show on the radio part of it. And, um, you know how good they are.
10:26Um, under the horizon is a new one for you guys. Um, um, I know you had, uh, uh, crying Caleb
10:34recently. Yeah. Uh, play dad. He was there early this year. Were you, um, big dad, love plague dad.
10:42Yeah. A lot of fun. He's a great talker. He, he's like me. We just talk a lot. Yeah. I'm not just in
10:47the car together. When we go to shows together, that's how we do. So, um, we, we had a trawl. I see
10:54trawl. We had them on the show a few months ago. Great band. I love those guys.
10:58Very popular in Maine. Very popular. They've done the real wall. Um, singleton noise. It's
11:03been popular for a while, a long time now in an area. So I don't ask that, um, are up and
11:09coming, I guess you could say, or stuff that, you know, you, you haven't had exposure to
11:13like night fairy, which are, uh, really good. I mean, I, I wouldn't think you'll, you're
11:19going to love that band. So I'll send you some stuff from them so you can, you can, so you
11:23can hear how they sound and stuff. And please. Yeah. I saw, I noticed too, uh, scarecrow
11:28hill. Uh, they've been around a long time and they're fantastic, but we, we had them
11:32on the show not that long ago. And Jenny and I saw them at jewel in Manchester. Uh,
11:36they were on a bill with, uh, under the horizon and, uh, uh, devil inside us and just
11:41fantastic. Oh yeah. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and it just
11:46like the fact that you mentioned it on the horizon, which is another thing that they're
11:50going to play that festival with a cesspit, you know, and those bands all play together
11:54in different ways in different places. And I mean, and, and obviously the, the, you
11:59know, the variety of music from themselves, it's like, it's, it's amazing. Like they're
12:03top notch talents and we got it. So I'm like really excited about that. But there's bands
12:09like, I think you, you should listen to, and maybe, you know, just like the, the
12:14band I mentioned before a night fairy, they're from Philadelphia. So obviously they probably won't
12:19be in studio, but at least you guys can communicate via, you know, telephone or whatever. Um, but
12:25you know, I will definitely, uh, you know, give you a handful of these bands that I think
12:30you should, you know, have some contact with. Oh, please. Yeah. We're always looking for
12:34suggestions. Uh, house lights. I noticed another name on there. Uh, we've had them on the show.
12:38That was a couple of years ago though. Um, we haven't, haven't talked to them in a while,
12:43but definitely want to get them back on, but they're, they're amazing. Um, I, I know it was a
12:49couple of years ago because I remember it was in the old, it was before WMNH moved to where we are
12:53now when we were in the old place, uh, on Elm street and, uh, yeah, another great, great band.
12:59There's a lot. I mean, this lineup is very, very impressive. Yeah. And you know, I, I, that's a
13:05thing, you know, a lot of these bands, you know, obviously some are more popular than others, but
13:10just all having together with the mutual aspect of just performing music for whoever and all on the
13:17same page with it. It's just, it's great. All, everybody has been great about that. They're
13:20just, they want, they want to perform, but they also want to see each other perform. It's like a
13:25really friendly environment, which is great. It's always a show. So anybody can show up for it.
13:30That's what's good about it too. Yeah. And what's the best way for people to get tickets? How should
13:35they get tickets? That's a good question. Many ways to get tickets. So the easiest way is probably
13:41to go to vicesfest.com. That's a direct way to get it. Um, you also can get it off of the, uh,
13:47strand theaters website. Okay. And you also can get it directly at, uh, eventbrite.com,
13:55which is vicesfest2025. eventbrite.com. So the easiest way to get it, just go to vicesfest.com
14:03website. It is a link for it. Click. You're there, you know, but there's also like online,
14:08it's QR codes and stuff. If that's what you want to utilize instead, that's there too.
14:13Okay. Okay. Very good. And no, no, go, go ahead. Cause I want to make sure we don't miss anything
14:19that you want to talk about with this. This is a big deal.
14:22Yeah. Yeah, sure. Um, but people can also wait to the day of the show and get tickets that way too.
14:29And we're not one of those plans where, oh, you need to pay something in advance for cheaper tickets.
14:33It's the same price. It doesn't matter. I'm not. So, um, you go there and you can pay
14:38cash Venmo anyway, PayPal, it doesn't matter. They'll, they take everything there at the door.
14:44Okay. Okay. We made it really convenient for everybody.
14:48Outstanding. No, very good. Very good. Uh, I did want to ask you about vices Inc. What
14:52has vices Inc been up to? Um, and, and, and by the way, I, I, it's understandable if you say
14:59not too, too much only because you've obviously been very occupied with vices fest. So if you don't
15:05have a lot to tell us, I completely understand, but I am a fan. So I, I need to ask.
15:10I hear that. Well, I mean, the crazy thing about vices fest, I mean, vices fest, vices Inc is, uh,
15:17you know, you know, we were, when we were talking before, we're a COVID band. That's all we do is
15:22record. So even though we're busy and schedule wise with other stuff in our lives now, we still
15:26keep a crazy recording schedule because that's what we're used to. Good. So, um, we are working
15:32on a, on honestly three albums at once right now. Okay. Really albums at once. And the first one
15:41comes out at end of this year, it's going to be called into the stranger things, which is a album
15:47based off the songs that are in that show. So it's a cover album. Oh, cool. So it'll be two
15:53originals and in the, in the middle of it, it'd be all songs that were on that TV show. Oh, that's a
15:59cool concept. Yeah. We thought, you know, it'd be something different. And since the show's ending
16:03this year, it's, you know, we thought we'd tie into it. Okay. That makes sense. And then earlier
16:08next year, we're releasing an album called Holo Goodbye, which is a more like senior songwriter
16:13acoustic album. It's really different for us. And we're looking for that because it'd be something
16:18of a change for us. And, um, so it's a little mellow calling. All right. If people like that,
16:25it's great. And then end of this year, that next year, we release suburban decay, which is really
16:30the follow-up to our last album, Acolyne Kiss, which is the more alternative, hard, whatever
16:36style of music you want to call it. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what's going on and plenty of shows.
16:42Wow. Uh, do you have any kind of, uh, ETAs on any of this or, I mean, it's, it's a lot. I mean,
16:48the strangest thing album comes out in December for sure. It's already, they're 90%. We're
16:54nothing done with it. I did all my work already. And, uh, Christie, the drummer is, uh, she's got
17:00a couple of songs left and Eleanor is the student of vocals. She actually did three songs over the
17:04weekend. I think she has like five, five songs left and she's done too. So we're almost done
17:08with that one. Wow. Okay. The same with the Holo Goodbye. I'm done with it. And Christie's done with
17:13it. And then we ran for Eleanor to finish her stop and she'll probably be done with it by,
17:17I would say March. And we're probably coming out with it maybe two months after that.
17:21Okay. And then December, December of 2026 is Server and Decay, which is like our main album
17:27that we're really excited about. It's a little bit harder than it's, it's the hardest thing we
17:32ever done before. It's, it's edgier for sure. Oh, cool. Okay. And where do you, um, where do you
17:38record? I mean, do you have a studio that you work with or do you, do you do it all yourselves
17:41or I know you're, you guys are very DIY with everything that you do, which is cool.
17:45Sure are. We, um, I, I bought a house after I graduated college with my wife and I was,
17:52I went to school in Boston. She went to school in Maine and she's from New Hampshire, but she
17:56said, I fell in love in Maine. I was like, great. We bought a house that used to be an apartment
18:00building and it's just, it's not an apartment building anymore. It's just our house. And it's
18:05really nice, which is great because she's always supported me. She let me have the first floor
18:10apartments as my studio. Nice studio. It's just really nice for her. It's just great.
18:17You know? So yeah, sounds it. Yeah. That's awesome. It does help out because I mean, obviously
18:24we weren't able to afford going to studio all the time, you know, to do, we got over 300
18:29songs online. It's crazy. You know, 300 songs. It's nice. Do you read 300? Really? Yeah.
18:36Yeah. Yeah. We do. A vice of zinc. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus. I had no, I didn't realize you
18:42had that many. No, we're not. In the calendar year of 2023, we released two singles a month,
18:52which were A and B sides. So we have four new songs every month for 2023. We're not. Oh
18:58my God. And that had nothing to do with albums. We will release albums too. We just obsessed
19:03we've recorded. It's just because we have, we have availability to do anytime we want
19:07to. And it's, you know, no, that's fantastic. I remember, I remember the last time that you
19:12were on the radio show with us, we talked about that a bit, but you know, about where
19:17you record and so forth, but I didn't realize the level of output. I honestly, I know I'm
19:22shocked. That's amazing. Ah, good for you. That's great.
19:25It is great. But at the same time, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's
19:30crazy to think about it, you know, that we have that. What do you choose to play live?
19:35It's like, it's hard. So yeah, for Bryson's Fest, I'll, I'll tell you a little thing that
19:40no one knows yet. We're debuting two songs that we never played before that are firm
19:44albums, like our first two albums that we never played before. And we're just like, you
19:50know, we're going to go back in time and do some of that stuff because otherwise we're
19:53just going to move on from it forever and never, never try it. So right. And they sound
19:57great. So it's like, now what, why did we not play these songs live? You know? But yeah,
20:03that's what we have. I'm pretty excited about that.
20:06Very cool. And then what, what, what night do you go on? What night does Vice's Inc. go
20:10on?
20:11Okay. So there's a selective amount of bands that are playing all three nights, actually.
20:16And obviously, Vice's Inc. is one of them. So we, we hit a line Friday and we're kind
20:22of like in the middle of a pack on Saturday. And then we're kind of early on Sunday to get
20:26more people, other bands, more exposure. Cause we don't need that. I mean, we, we had
20:31our time to shine on Friday, really good spot on Saturday. So we're playing an afternoon
20:37on Sunday and I really don't care about that. So I'm excited to have other bands play.
20:41I'm a fan of these bands. I just want to see them play anyway. So actually me playing
20:45is almost an inconvenience, you know? So, but yeah, all three nights, Night Fury is playing
20:51all three nights, Play Dad's playing all three nights. So there's a good handful of bands
20:54that play in all three nights. And then it's the other one night. So it's, it's, it's 36
21:02acts, but it's like 45. Slots. If that makes any sense.
21:07Yeah. Good Lord. How do you, I mean, I'm just amazed. I mean, it's impressive to me that
21:12you're able to, to pull that off and, and just the logistics of all of that, of, of slotting
21:18everybody in. And that's amazing. Good for you, man. This is incredible.
21:22I learned a lot when we toured, because what I did was I played, obviously I played many
21:28shows for many years and I learned a lot of lessons. And one of the lessons that was like
21:33when we were on tour, I said, we'll be the band that shares our equipment and make it easier
21:38for everybody. I was, when I was younger, it was like every band brought their own equipment
21:42and stuff. And I go, Oh my God, it's just, it was chaotic. And it's just a clusterfuck.
21:46So we didn't want that. Yeah. So we, um, I decided like after that tour, we'll be the band
21:52that backs our stuff up. We don't care. We share our back line. It made everything so smoothly.
21:57And that was a precursor to what this is, where we had, we set guidelines about what's being
22:03used. And mostly the problem you're going to have is equipment situation. And once you set
22:07those guidelines and people, bands fall in suit with that, you really don't have much, as many,
22:12issues that you would have. Yeah. Out rowdy fan base, uh, fans and stuff like that. I'm not
22:17worried about that. Never. We never encountered that. Never encountered that with the bands we
22:22worked with. So it's good. You know, when my younger days, maybe, but not since, you know,
22:27remember anything with Vice's Inc. So we got security there anyways, and I'm not worried about that.
22:32But, um, I think for the most part, it's just everybody being on the same page or at least
22:37being close to that same page. And then you're pretty good. You know? Yeah. I mean,
22:41there's always going to be something that comes up, right? So some kind of thing and you just got
22:45to deal with it. Right. And then you move on from it. But for the most part, you've got a group of
22:50people who are, again, want the same thing. They want, have a great show. That's all they want,
22:54you know? Right. Right. Yeah. That's, that's so important. Everybody's got to work as a team and,
22:59and because it's all on one stage too, right? Yes, it is. Yeah. It's a pretty good side stage. So yeah,
23:05but that's a funny thing you say that because when we were originally going to do the next one,
23:11which was going to be at this place. And I told you before the cavern in Portland,
23:14which is not around anymore. They had two floors. And originally we're going to have all the senior
23:19songwriters, acoustic acts on the first floor and all the harder acts on the bottom floor.
23:24Now I'm glad we didn't do that because that would have been too much for me to, you know,
23:29because when I did the first one, I was nonstop the whole night. You know, I was there for 14
23:35hours, maybe more than that, up and down the stairs doing all that stuff. And it's like,
23:39I don't want to do that. No, you know, you know, I don't care how good shape you're in,
23:47but after a while you're like, no, I can't do this anymore. So yeah. Yeah. No, I don't,
23:52I don't blame you at all. Um, is there anything, uh, is there anything about the festival that you want
23:58people to know that we didn't talk, uh, we didn't talk about, um, and by the way,
24:00thank you for inviting Jenny and us. We wish we could be there. It's just so like our weekends
24:05are so busy now between the radio shows and everything else we've got going on. But, um,
24:11I'm sorry. What? I'm still pulling for you guys in 2026. I'm still pulling for that.
24:17We'd love to. Yeah. Maybe with enough planning, we can figure it out. But, uh, that does bring to
24:22mind another question though. Will there be video of this or any kind of streaming happening during the
24:26show? Um, a little bit. Um, we were going to go all in on a film for this. Yeah. We decided
24:33cause, um, I've got, uh, actually I, I'm able to, I'm able to talk about it. I got a tentative deal
24:39with Netflix actually in prime to release a movie of this. Nice. But the requirements from Netflix are
24:47pretty high standards. So yeah, we're able to ascertain that, but not at this time. So, um,
24:57if we had worked on that six months ago, instead of a few months ago, we would have able to do it.
25:03So we decided we're going to do it in 2026 because we have the whole year to plan on it.
25:08Right. And we'll use basic footage from last year's and basic footage from this year's
25:13and incorporated in the main footage from next year. Okay.
25:16Cause we can use a little bit of footage. That's not in their requirements. It's, it's, it's a very
25:21short amount of it. That makes sense. But all of this is going to be recorded the whole, all the,
25:26the whole, all street, all three days. And we're going to pick a few songs from each band and release
25:31a live album. That's what we're all going to do though. Oh, very cool. That's a great idea.
25:35Yeah. And I'll, please, I'll send that to you. If you want to, you have it.
25:38Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Fantastic. Well, let's just for, uh, for anyone
25:44who's joining us late live. And of course I, most people will hear this in the podcast and the podcast
25:49version will be available within, uh, yeah, probably by 6 PM, uh, at the latest. So we'll, we'll get that
25:56up and out quickly. Uh, because obviously this is a time sensitive matter because this event is this
26:00coming weekend. So we want to make sure, we want to make sure people know about it. Um, but, uh,
26:06let's remind people, of course, Vices Fest 2025. And, uh, so it starts Friday night and, or actually,
26:13no, I'm sorry. It starts Friday afternoon. Yeah, it does. Each, each, each day, the doors open at 11
26:18a.m. Okay. Those are around new time, you know, um, various times, but it's mostly about around new
26:25time. Okay. Just, you know, and most of the first acts are more like seeing the sun, right. And then
26:30after 3 PM, it becomes full dance. Yeah. Oh, very cool. Very cool. And where should people go to
26:37get tickets? That'll be www.vicesfest.com. Very good. That's the main place you can go. Yeah. If
26:46you, if you want to go to the strand, uh, which is strandtheater.com, it's also there. Okay. Okay.
26:53Excellent. Well, like I said, I commend you. This is a huge undertaking. Uh, I think it's awesome what
26:58you're doing. I think it's, uh, I predict great things. I think it's going to go very well. And,
27:02uh, and again, too. Oh, and one more time too, for the band, where should people go to learn more
27:07about Vices Inc.? Oh, geez, that's easy. www.vicesinc.com. And please go because, uh, we guys, we got some
27:16good stuff coming out pretty soon. You know? Yeah. Yeah. You, you, you heard all the inside
27:20information you got today. No one knew about it. You got it all. Nice. I love, I love to get an
27:26exclusive. Um, hell, I didn't even know you had 300 songs already. My God, I gotta, I gotta go back and
27:33listen to some stuff. I didn't, I did not realize it was that many, but that that's fantastic. Good
27:38for you, Jagger. Uh, thank you so much, my friend. And, uh, good luck this weekend. Not that you need
27:44luck. You've got, you've got this well in hand, but good luck anyway. I know it's going to go great.
27:48And, uh, thank you so much. Well, thank you for having me. It's been exciting. I enjoy your company
27:54all the time. You know that you're awesome. And we love being on the show, even, you know, podcast radio,
27:58we love being on part of this and we are looking forward to, uh, working more with you again,
28:04you know, soon, and maybe we'll be, you know, in there, uh, on the radio again, uh, before too long
28:10to, uh, to view that new album coming out. If you're cool with that. Perfect. I would love it. I would
28:15love it. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, Jagger. Thank you. And, uh, thank you everybody.
28:20Okay. See ya.
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