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00:00:00all right welcome everybody been a while but here we go hanging left episode 12 our first episode
00:00:07of 2026 and our first episode back after a little bit of a hiatus uh todd air is here of course my
00:00:13partner in crime in this endeavor hello todd hey how are you good how's it hanging hanging left as
00:00:18usual i mean you know we gotta really be hanging left lately i'll tell you like you know you gotta
00:00:22really really make sure everyone knows that it's like yeah the only way to hang right now
00:00:26well the midterms are coming yep tick tock tick tock my friend yes yes so what's uh i i don't know if
00:00:36you want to give us a countdown clock oh too much math uh true true no math yeah just uh november
00:00:45november something i don't even know the exact uh obviously it's the first tuesday in november but i
00:00:49don't know exactly right that is but so i mean it really depends i mean there's so much going on
00:00:54right now matt i mean we could almost do like a um you know end of year slash like um beginning of
00:01:02year in in you know review kind of thing yeah um you know and sort of uh you know discuss the hot
00:01:11topics there's no shortage yeah certainly certainly um well you know over the last year of course i mean
00:01:20it's it's well it's almost you know what's challenging about that though is this we live
00:01:24in a time where the news cycle moves so fast it's almost hard like i get i get this time distortion
00:01:30thing where sometimes things that happened a month ago seem like a year ago and something that happened
00:01:35in 2026 or something that seems like it happened not in 2026 2025 seems like it happened in 2023 or
00:01:44something that happened in 2024 feels like it happened six months ago you know and and i started
00:01:49to notice that during the first trump administration i would i would get this this weird time distortion
00:01:54thing and it uh it continues for me today yeah i mean maybe that's part of the plan maybe they're
00:02:00putting it in the water or something no but um i actually similar but different i have like i completely
00:02:07lose track of time and it's like what day it is like what month what anything i mean honestly it's just
00:02:13like it all kind of it's almost like um you know when they issue ad and bc but this is like you know
00:02:23bt and and and at like you know before trump and after trump although we don't have the after trump
00:02:29yet you know it's like true um but yeah i mean that's kind of how i look at it i mean this has been
00:02:35one and you know it's interesting matt because i've been really out there in the field talking to all
00:02:39kinds of people doing a lot of like multi-generational conversations yeah and um you know i i got some
00:02:46really interesting insights just to kind of backtrack a little bit if we want to like look and take a
00:02:52little bit of time warp back towards the days of harris um you know one of the things that's interesting
00:02:57is a lot of my younger uh followers and all my different social media and just people that i'm now
00:03:03working with actively on sarah's campaign as well as hrc and all these other things that i'm now doing
00:03:09um they actually seem to say that they got like uh like a spiraling brain type situation going on so
00:03:19like they it's not that they didn't care and it's not even that they didn't want like that they
00:03:24necessarily although the maga people made it out like oh my god all this youthful people were like
00:03:30going for maga i feel like we were competing with the couch but we were also competing with the
00:03:36um the loud noise the static noise and so they all told me they've i mean these are kids that are
00:03:43really really engaged now but they said a we needed like um you know sort of like a specific beacon to
00:03:51follow like we didn't know who the heck to follow yeah and then secondly um we just had to shut it off
00:03:58because we were getting headaches like it wasn't it like you know so i think you know that combined
00:04:03with the fact that you had a whole generation that uh honestly has been especially like if they're
00:04:09younger zoomers like my 17 year old twin nephews now are out doing activism and stuff like that
00:04:15um with me but like they said a lot of their peers just you know they don't know anything but trump
00:04:20they don't know anything but chaos right so like to them this is a norm and a norm they're not
00:04:27comfortable with to us this is completely abnormal so when we're like oh this isn't how it used to be
00:04:32they're like well what do you mean like we don't even have any other reference point yeah now that
00:04:37makes sense yeah because for us it's like i mean i find myself often saying things like uh you know
00:04:42it's not the same america i grew up in you know looking at uh you know looking at what ice is doing or
00:04:49or or looking at you know that we're yeah you know we're possibly going to invade greenland or you
00:04:54know just weird all the weird shit yeah it's it's it's so bizarre but yeah but i would imagine
00:05:01you know for someone growing up now yeah this is this is the only thing they know so to them right
00:05:06this this seems probably normal but probably almost a little too normal yeah so so what i try to do is
00:05:14not normalize it like i let them know and i think it's so important and like with my nephews who came
00:05:20out with me to the ice out rally they were like all of these like people much older than us were
00:05:25coming up to them and like thanking them and like it's so good to see the youth out here and like it
00:05:29gives us hope and all this awesome stuff and i was like um you know my nephews are extremely bright so
00:05:36like they're they're like 17 going on like 35 as far as their brain capacity goes i mean they're
00:05:41they're probably brilliant although i don't know for sure but it would not surprise me yeah but that said
00:05:47they still understand like you know they're still kids at the end of the day so they still even maybe
00:05:53they themselves might have a better comprehension like the average 17 year old yeah they still live
00:05:57in that 17 year old world like headspace like you know what i mean it exists so oh looks like we have
00:06:03somebody coming on here i don't know what that means though i don't know either okay well observer mode
00:06:09but welcome observer mode welcome observer mode um hopefully you're not a uh well actually let me
00:06:16let me save you let me beat you to it if you are a member of the mega secret police you don't have
00:06:24to do a real deep dive like i absolutely hate you and um i couldn't you know scrub my social media if i
00:06:31tried so yep i'm guilty you know whatever whatever that means there you go well they might come they might
00:06:38come and shoot you in the face okay well you know shoot me in the leg all they want there is that
00:06:42yep unfortunately for them around too many um uh people with a lot of like a lot of loud voices
00:06:48and a lot of media so i'm not a good target for them right unless they want it all over the place
00:06:54right right exactly um they don't you know but anyway so yeah so but that also on the flip side gives me
00:07:01help you know and i think it really kind of helps strategize things better like um it's a lot easier
00:07:09to deal with like oh my god like we were just so overwhelmed but like we really want to get involved
00:07:14and i mean and this is even college kids too not just like high school kids yeah um you know because
00:07:20sarah went to a school um with kids that like next time around they will be voting in the midterms
00:07:26and all of them were like super engaged and all this stuff and they're like good the other thing
00:07:31is like they're like no one came to engage us like you you know we had like maga trying to like
00:07:36indoctrinate us and then we had like the the democrats you know the the establishment democrats
00:07:43like believing the the spin and being their own worst enemies and not like trying to like engage us
00:07:51yeah so you know shame on us i think there's a long history of uh the democratic establishment
00:08:00just taking uh taking the the base for granted um and we're really doing ourselves a disservice at this
00:08:07point like all you have to do is look at the stats and these are like you know everything from your
00:08:13obviously very progressive leaning media all the way to very traditional media and you've got all these
00:08:17people coming out against him i mean like we have a lot more allies now than we ever have had and if
00:08:25we and i say we you know kind of quasi we like i am currently supporting a um you know a pragmatic
00:08:32progressive i like to call her uh you know and i i sort of like if i have to have a title i basically
00:08:38become her communications director so like um you know i think that's that's one thing but at the same
00:08:45time we really are you know it's important to know we're we're running both in that and just my life
00:08:51i run a very people driven people powered um campaign and life philosophy so you know i don't
00:08:59really care what people vote at this point it's like the you know the sane and the insane you know so
00:09:06like and what's so great is like i think that if you keep on saying that then more and more people are
00:09:12coming out of the you know out of the closet about that and they're like oh my god like you know i'm
00:09:18hearing more and more people like you know i i actually had somebody the other day a gentleman
00:09:23um that i'm gonna be working on with some things that i'll you know talk about offline but he was like
00:09:28you know i love the fact that you let me come out like as a republican but like a normal republican but
00:09:34like you know and that and reintroduce the fact that like republicans can be like socially open-minded
00:09:41and like even just fiscally moderate like we're not nuts like we just you know we're just a little
00:09:46bit more i guess analytical i guess he kind of said and like we kind of um really dissect things a
00:09:54little bit deeper before we like are willing to jump at something you know we're a little more risk
00:09:58at first but other than that like and it's becoming more and more like that you know what i mean like
00:10:03the difference is so now it's really just a matter of i think you know the those of us that really in
00:10:12a positive way are driving a revolution and the establishment whether that be republican or democratic
00:10:18establishment you know we have to get the all of our democratic people if they want to be leaders
00:10:23they have to lead and we have to keep on driving that message like into their heads with a with a nail
00:10:28gun need not obviously joking but a metaphoric nail gun like you know get up and say something or get
00:10:34out right right um i do know that you know among independents because uh that's so much of where
00:10:42these elections are won or lost among independents i mean trump is is down significantly um you know on
00:10:49whether it's ice whether it's the economy you know they don't think he's uh doing a good job on the
00:10:54economy um whether it's you know attacking venezuela and uh kidnapping their president
00:11:00right i mean you can't do things that are anti-law and order and expect people that are you know
00:11:10probably even some i i believe even some constitutionalists that are now like i'm sorry
00:11:16like this isn't even conservatism and i think we need to keep driving that message home too he is not a
00:11:21republican he is honestly i think you can i actually think he's sort of just a puppet for american
00:11:28fascism is really what i think he is at this point um you know i think even he's being fooled at this
00:11:33point although he doesn't know it but like yeah you know he's he's the puppet for voight and miller
00:11:40you know and then we've got jd vance who's the um clown in the clown car you know i mean yeah
00:11:45yeah yeah and they're both goons they're both just you know little little marionettes that like
00:11:51all of the hardcore fascists put them on strings and get them to dance in front of tv screens because
00:11:57they know they're so deplorable publicly that they can't put themselves in front of the screen but
00:12:03what they're hoping is that trump can like get the cult and that jd vance can normalize things enough
00:12:09that they can like do a sweep but it's really you know i think they're pushing it it's you know
00:12:16they've stepped out too far yeah well the problem is though you know they have a base that is so
00:12:21compliant i mean it's um you know and and a lot of these people are they're so phony you know they
00:12:29they i they talk about freedom and and liberty and and uh you know but then they celebrate when
00:12:35the the the state that they claim to not trust uh murder somebody in the street and they're
00:12:41excited about it but charlie kirk was different you know right i mean someone that like literally
00:12:49his brand was hate is less understandable why someone got and again i don't condone violence
00:12:57not to mention i you know honestly even from a pragmatic standpoint i it's not even gonna work
00:13:02he's hoping that he likes the right hues and everything blows up and the optics are such
00:13:11that um you know he looks like he's sort of like preserving law and order again you know and
00:13:17unfortunately the american public especially i think you're you're less informed american public
00:13:23they're fickle they're they're you know their their support is fickle so if someone gets too radicalized
00:13:30on either side it's not gonna work if it's also with violence i mean i think they want strong
00:13:37leaders but they want succinct leaders if that makes any sense are you talking about broadly or
00:13:42are you talking about yeah so i think the general public right now is in our camp yeah i would i would
00:13:48say that it's almost at the point now where like the only people really supporting trump although he
00:13:52wants the numbers to look bigger but all you have to do is look at the stats and again they're
00:13:56across the board these are non-partisan non-biased statisticians of all kinds even in some cases
00:14:03polls they're taking on fox news and stuff like this and it's it's not looking good for him i mean
00:14:08nothing is looking good for him yeah so i think we need to not do what they do which is like get too
00:14:16overconfident right and be like oh my god we're winning so now we can like turn up the volume so damn loud
00:14:22that anything we do people will tolerate because frankly that's what he's doing right now yeah
00:14:26that's what's destroying him yeah yeah i mean it was one thing when he was like quote-unquote like
00:14:34there's even a like uh i even read something on this like people the reason why things have shifted
00:14:40is because his methods are not considered american anymore like people still want a strong stance
00:14:47on immigration but they don't want like masked thugs yeah um you know kidnapping people in these
00:14:55like darkened out vans in the middle of the street right this is creepy yeah well some people do i mean
00:15:01the hardcore maga they love it well when i say people i don't count them those are not people these are
00:15:06people that are like brainwashed you know if you have anyone in your family 1-800 save maga get them
00:15:12therapy they need it um you know what i'm saying like i do i had one he passed away but i had one
00:15:18in my family but normal people yeah or healthy people let me say i don't want to i don't want
00:15:23to say abnormal but unhealthy people people that are angry and sick and truly genuinely need help
00:15:29yeah um that's the only buddy he's attractive to at this point or if you happen to be one of the
00:15:35people that got the maga lottery ticket and you're somehow making money off this but that's it
00:15:40right those are the only two groups now something something that was on my mind recently because
00:15:45you know i i said that you know they're they're so phony um i don't know if you know this about
00:15:50me we might have talked about it on the show but years ago i was a co-host on a show called rock
00:15:54paper hand grenades yeah and it was hosted by a conservative republican uh gary s hopper who has
00:15:59passed away and you know gary and i disagreed on most things but we would have great conversations
00:16:04both on air and off yeah um and uh and that was why i did the show for so long mainly because i i
00:16:10really enjoyed uh hanging out with gary and and i met a lot of interesting people but um during that
00:16:16period so this would have been like around 2010 2011 maybe earlier at time it all becomes a blur
00:16:25but a lot of the people that we would have on the show a lot of republicans and libertarians they would
00:16:30come on and and something they were very concerned about this was a consistent theme among these
00:16:35people they were really concerned about the police overstepping yeah about law enforcement they were
00:16:41concerned about government uh infringing upon your rights um of course they didn't like illegal
00:16:48immigration but they also would not have based on their rhetoric they would not have approved of the
00:16:55state certainly under obama they wouldn't have they would not have approved of the state you know
00:16:59sending in masked thugs and you know beating right and shooting people in the face and all that they
00:17:05would never have approved of any of that now of course fast forward to today and these same people
00:17:11i see them on social media they love it they they love seeing ice being heavy-handed and they you know
00:17:20they're they don't necessarily celebrate uh what happened to uh uh renee nicole good but they but they
00:17:28certainly they kind of gloat about it yeah they're just they love it i mean you know and but it's but
00:17:33it's i mean to be fair guilty i mean to be fair guilty there's definitely a list of people that if
00:17:38you know some of them were kirked i wouldn't lose any sleep over but i'm not going to go out and
00:17:44encourage it either it's like it's kind of like to me it's like it's the perfect storm right you have
00:17:50to like be honest with yourself like with every reaction there's an equal enough with every action there's
00:17:55an equal and opposite reaction and like you can only you know i guess i'm just going to talk in
00:18:01cliches for a second you can only poke the bear so much without like it eventually biting you and and
00:18:06so whether that's a right bear right leaning bear or a left leaning bear if you're going to just
00:18:11constantly like taunt taunt taunt attack attack attack push something into a wall give it no way to
00:18:17back up it's going to bite and it's not about like do you approve of the biting do you not approve of
00:18:22the biting should a bit less hard no it's just reality and we have to start living in reality
00:18:27like and we also have to call the people out like you know the thing is with you know as i like to
00:18:34say all the time with great power comes great responsibility so if you're in a position of power
00:18:38i don't that's bullshit that you're not supposed to be turning down the rhetoric you are because you're
00:18:42a leader like if some kid that is like a college protester goes a little off kilter he's a college kid
00:18:50right he's not a world leader right right you are held to a higher standard as a world leader i am
00:18:55sorry and if you have a problem with that don't be a world leader like as the head of administration
00:19:00you know or an agency you are held to a higher standard even myself i am held to a higher
00:19:05standard sure i am at this point a a political mouthpiece i am you know a opinion leader i do not
00:19:12have a right if i go out in the right crowd or the wrong crowd it would be and say you know guys go
00:19:19out there find whatever i say you can and beat the living shit out of them there were probably
00:19:22people that would listen if i said it enough and that is irresponsible of me so i don't have a right
00:19:27to do that yeah and but i also am am not going to be the you know safety valve anymore for the
00:19:36republicans like or the mega republicans like they have to get their own party in line and it's not my
00:19:41job to put their party in line and it's also not my job to clutch my pearls and dismiss reality when
00:19:49things backfire i mean you know like give yourself a bigger fuse my friend like don't don't give
00:19:56such a damn short fuse keep on lighting the explosive and not eventually expect it to blow
00:20:01up in your face i mean yeah you know they i mean we have to look at this from a perspective um
00:20:09and you know i can only um theorize because even as a gay man the level of persecution and prosecution
00:20:18as an educated gay man from uh living on the east coast and like hyper progressive areas even at
00:20:26their worst were nothing like let's say like you know the bible belt deep south so i cannot claim to
00:20:32understand that equivalent right but i can theorize and certainly um have sympathy for a group of people
00:20:43that are told to comply with a group that frankly i'm sure some of them at this point aren't are
00:20:48worried about if they get in that van they might not live right like i think that's a real true so how
00:20:54do we expect these people to to choose compliance or or to not fight i mean if someone's gonna like
00:21:02break open my car and kill me i don't care what badge they have on them i'm not gonna cooperate i
00:21:08mean that's just survival right i don't understand it's not it's not a dysfunction of law and order
00:21:15it's like you're i mean you're you it would be like you know getting mad at the french resistance
00:21:21for going after the nazis like you know there is a point right and they are getting us to that point
00:21:26dangerously so oh yeah yeah um they're also not supposed to be doing that anyway i know i mean
00:21:33they're waging war on their own people and that is why i want to say publicly too i'm going to say it
00:21:37again he is not my president i completely disavow his presidency publicly i do not the only reason
00:21:44why i will follow any of the things he follows is because frankly i want to be effective and i don't
00:21:50want to end up in prison because i will not do any good for people in prison but as far as like you know
00:21:57following his laws just because he says it because he's some like has some moral high ground he's he's
00:22:02deplorable like and and i don't that is not a leader to me so i do not subscribe to his leadership
00:22:08no no um so should we now you you had mentioned regarding uh uh sarah's campaign uh so you uh
00:22:16the campaign has come out uh uh saying abolish ice is that yeah i mean so yeah absolutely so abolish
00:22:22ice because you know it's interesting um abolish ice as it stands right now there is a difference
00:22:28between abolishing ice and abolishing the immigration um enforcement you know yeah you definitely want
00:22:35to clarify that because you don't want you don't want to fall into the uh the uh what is it uh defund
00:22:40the police uh trap right right that's fell into before yeah no so this is a matter of make them
00:22:46accountable um yes abolish their leadership because these people are basically mafia dons and yes arrest these
00:22:54people like i'm sorry um you know i've been told by many military people you're not protected to break
00:23:02the law just because a general tells you to break the law right so the ones that are practicing you
00:23:08know domestic terrorism the ones that are breaking into people's homes without um you know the the rights
00:23:15um oh my god what am i yeah warrants you know the ones that are like doing property damage like
00:23:21smashing in car windows to get at people there's a process i mean even if these people are you know
00:23:27what kind of policeman are you if you can't detain the person you're after without like breaking laws
00:23:33yeah i i don't understand that yeah police have enforced the law for ever and um there's
00:23:42the vast majority of them at least the united states don't do so by breaking the laws
00:23:46mm-hmm and when they break the laws there's consequences until now yeah so you know
00:23:55nobody is asking anything other than these people to you know be responsible for the power they've been
00:24:02given and set examples and behave the way they need to behave so i think that in this moment
00:24:10the reason why we're saying abolish it is because it has to be abolished and reworked
00:24:14like it is so broken like you can't hold something together that like literally is hemorrhaging and
00:24:22all of it's like you know um accelerants are leaking all over the floor and just take one piece of
00:24:29putty and expect it to like you know hold together this thing that it's like it it's it's in pieces it's
00:24:37a disaster yeah yeah absolutely so you know and i think sarah comes out and says that because
00:24:43nobody else is willing to right and i'll tell you this i got i've now had several conversations
00:24:48recently where i've had people that consider themselves moderate not even like liberal republicans
00:24:54moderate republicans say to me look i would much rather have a conversation with someone that is like
00:24:59myself a self-proclaimed social democrat progressive who is willing to use still use pragmatism
00:25:08and we could even disagree on the whole process and everything and i feel like the value of our
00:25:14conversation is going to be much better and we're going to come to a better place than someone that
00:25:19like is a mega republican and maybe like in theory at least the spin is that we have similar values
00:25:29or at least they're pretending to have similar values to me but because i cannot trust them i
00:25:33cannot have a valid conversation with them right and furthermore they're using them as scapegoats
00:25:38what they're doing is they're taking these people i've had so many people say to me like and sarah
00:25:42has it all the time we have republicans and independents say to us thank you thank you for
00:25:45not demonizing us thank you for not like making everybody think we are the enemy thank you for
00:25:50making that division and that separation from us and maga we actually not only do we celebrate this we
00:25:55support you and we'll openly support you because you guys are willing to do it it's always difficult
00:26:01though to make that separation because um people people tend to not like to criticize their own and
00:26:08this this transcends politics yeah but these people are not their own and that's what i'm seeing and
00:26:13that's what i love about this like i'm telling you like even that guy on um there was a guy just
00:26:18today in the washington post and he's like i don't know he's a super conservative like a
00:26:22a really conservative you know i hate to use the term super conservative now because you're right
00:26:26we have to be careful because that is affiliated with maga automatically but i when i mean conservative
00:26:30i just mean like old school conservative and he's an old school conservative and he's like what is
00:26:35going on right now is not okay right yeah plain and simple yeah and so i think as their opinion
00:26:41leaders start to say that more and more publicly and this you know and even their journalists are like
00:26:46openly like you know not seek hell but like this is not cool you know like i'm conservative and
00:26:53that's why i fight the nazis not join the nazis right right um you know i think that hey look that's
00:27:00the great part about mob mentality it's like at least the the community as a whole is moving in that
00:27:06direction it's hard though for me to even trust and i'm thinking of our governor when i say this
00:27:13well she's a nazi because kelly i'm not gonna say that but she's a nazi sympathizer remember the
00:27:19like french that like would let the nazis into their cities that's what she is well the thing is
00:27:25so you know kelly as well remember she exited politics at one point uh for a little bit because
00:27:30she didn't want the stink of trump on her right i mean she never came right out and said that although
00:27:34i think she can't hinted at it at the time she's a liar and now she's uh yeah now she's she's on board
00:27:40yeah um and now and and she's and she is a liar because they're building a nice facility here in
00:27:46new hampshire and she says publicly i don't know anything about it yeah that's bullshit nobody's told
00:27:52me anything about it how does she not know anything about it we protested it there about 2 000 people
00:27:56there how does she does she not watch the news yeah clearly she knows um uh jenny and i know someone
00:28:02who lives in in merrimack who has you know drives sees the new road that they built and oh it's that
00:28:08far along oh yeah they've been building a facility and it's got no windows in it and it's lovely big
00:28:14warehouse and yeah so but they've been but they've been doing it in a very clandestine way of course
00:28:20of course no because they're not building the mall that they want people to know about for when it
00:28:24opens and yeah and kelly our governor she just lies she probably makes money off it it wouldn't
00:28:28surprise me if we dug deeper and found that she's not making some sort of like profit off this
00:28:33right right i don't know i i mean i don't believe so so honestly at best kelly ayotte is like a snoop
00:28:39dog who's like willing to like bend to the knee for financial like in like uh wealth accumulation
00:28:46which to me is just just it's honestly just as slimy yeah but yeah kelly can go with the rest of
00:28:52them i mean as far as i'm concerned yeah you know add her to the list of you know people that need to go
00:28:56to the hague like she's because she would you know and she's damaging she's damaging the state
00:29:03and she's not doing anything in the interest of this state it's it's disappointing to me too
00:29:08because um she's someone who i had at one time regarded as you know one of the one of the smart
00:29:14ones you know one of the you know a sort of a north centrist northeastern republican ideologically
00:29:20you know the kind of republican who doesn't completely terrify me yeah but uh you know
00:29:26you were lied to matt don't you you were lied to the whole entire time look at her look at her
00:29:30voting record oh yeah yeah but uh you know much like uh you know chris sununu he's another one you
00:29:36know and i voted for him a couple times uh but uh but then he disappointed me you know he was very
00:29:42you know he he uh he opposed uh trump in the last election right up and right up to the moment that
00:29:48it became uh inconvenient for him to continue to do so and then he got right on the trump train
00:29:53and what is so ridiculous is that these people really are preservists of the republican party
00:29:58if they got like i don't know 20 of them who didn't even take that many like together and collectively
00:30:05stuck with their you know i'm sure they love the saying their guns and we're like um you know
00:30:11defended things and we're like yeah we want you know we're hardcore republicans and we're conservative but
00:30:17we don't want it done by like breaking up the constitution and like you know delegitimizing the
00:30:24um congress like you know that is not what is acceptable right that is not the process right um
00:30:32and we certainly don't want big government so um you know if they if they had the balls to say that
00:30:40yeah although i think republicans generally are dishonest when they talk about how they don't like
00:30:44big government they they love big government just as much as anybody else everybody loves big
00:30:48government when it's big government in your favor well exactly i mean exactly what am i going to go do
00:30:53protest social programs that help people that i care about let's face it we all want a what we want
00:31:00is we want an ethical moral and responsible government all of us want that right oh yeah but i mean i've
00:31:09admittedly become like you know like i said i'm not i i still am far too much into like you know um
00:31:17entrepreneurship and things like this and i like my creature comforts a little too much to like
00:31:21i have to like it it's all you know it's all nuances but like okay so my my my new year's resolution is
00:31:30that i am now admittedly a social democrat not a democrat socialist but a social democrat there is a
00:31:34difference um you know i it really just means on where you which way you lean a little more
00:31:41i guess it's like a moderate a centrist democrat or a liberal you know it's kind of that whole thing
00:31:48yeah well democrat who's also a capitalist right right that which is what i am i mean i'm a capitalist
00:31:54although well of course you know we live in a time too where people like to say well you know you
00:31:58can either be a capitalist or a socialist you know you got to make a choice which drives me insane
00:32:03because you don't have to make a choice they co-exist quite well in fact i mean i think you
00:32:08can be in free markets but not um i mean i guess it's all well whatever it's all semantics like
00:32:15yeah the the actual theory of capitalism is like very classist and very racist and all of these things
00:32:22um if you say you mean you believe in like americanized capitalism or what it was supposed to be
00:32:28or capitalism within a democracy yeah so you believe in like a capitalistic democracy basically
00:32:34yeah i believe in capitalism that has to be regulated by the government it has to be it's all
00:32:40just semantics anyway at this point it's all words but then you know because people will say well matt
00:32:44you're you're uh you're a socialist and i'd say well i'm i am a socialist and i'm a capitalist i'm
00:32:49both because guess what america is both we always have been we always will be you know we can argue
00:32:55about the mixture you know do you want more government regulation or less do you want more
00:32:59free markets or less you you know what do you want you know and we should have those conversations
00:33:04but but what we've always had but it just drives me nuts but i also think it's it depends on the time
00:33:08right so it's like you know at some point in order to get a cause across you know i can use an
00:33:14i can use um activism as an example in the beginning you know you metaphorically blow shit up and you want
00:33:20to cause a lot of like you know chaos in the sense that like you know a lot of like noise and a lot
00:33:25of attention to that thing and then once you start to gain a smart organization or smart cause once they
00:33:32start to gain you know traction and once they start to gain public support then it's the nature of the
00:33:38beast you have to slightly temper it yeah because if you don't it's like people
00:33:45are risk adverse to some extent people like to remain comfortable i mean i am not i'm crazy i
00:33:51love it's like if something's burning i'm just like figuring out what suit do i have to wear to
00:33:55jump in that fire like so a little better than some i mean some are like oh it's burning i'm jumping in
00:34:00the fire you know be gone with the fire retardant suit i'm putting on a fire retardant suit but i'm
00:34:05still jumping in right right but you know i'm saying like so i think that but you have to be honest
00:34:10with yourself even about that it's like not everybody is going to put on the fire retardant suit and jump in and
00:34:15that's okay as a matter of fact it'd be too damn crowded in that burning building if we all try to
00:34:20get in there yeah so that's another thing i say you know my new thing is like you don't have to do
00:34:26everything but do something and do whatever is capable in your right place that you're in in life
00:34:32right right absolutely yeah i think people get overwhelmed they do they do and i don't i don't
00:34:39blame them because even i get overwhelmed sometimes like i play the most like benign silly
00:34:44it's like it's like one tier above candy crush like i sit and i move these unicorns together to
00:34:50like create bigger unicorns and stuff like no dragons i'm sorry dragons like dragon merge i mean this is
00:34:57what i do and i am like very much like well above that intellectually but honestly sometimes i need
00:35:05an escape and a brainless escape like like there's nothing threatening about that game
00:35:10that's literally nothing oh yeah dragon merge and they don't even you're dealing with dragons that
00:35:16don't even hurt each other like these are like peaceful dragons like how can you yeah you know and
00:35:22like everything's a reward it's not even a risk system like even the goblins like don't do that much
00:35:28too like you know you lose the turn kind of thing it's like candy land okay all right oh interesting
00:35:35you know hey this is not it's an example i'm just saying like yeah whatever that is and i do other
00:35:41things too like i go and i walk my dog and i do these other things yeah i do unplug now and i didn't
00:35:45used to okay you have to because i was becoming like honestly and it's also what radicalizes you i think
00:35:51when you don't unplug you just like start like feeding into the frenzy yeah and especially if
00:35:58you're someone that like i would definitely in my heart call myself like an avenger but like this
00:36:04isn't the days of like medieval days where you like get on your horse and ride and attack the enemy like
00:36:09that it's not quite the same you know you do it with you know it's an information war and it's a you
00:36:15know it's a um it's a image war and these types of things it's not a war with like
00:36:21blood and bullets you know it's and so it's propaganda war really honestly it's like an
00:36:26information war and a messaging war and um but i think it's very easy because it's so like the
00:36:34consequences right now that are going on especially because he wants to do that because that's this
00:36:37whole thing flood the zone yes um i'm i've gotten flooded i mean even though and that's scary because
00:36:44i know what's going on i should know better but it's still getting flooded when i i i'm not i don't
00:36:50know enough to like you know swim up to the surface take a breath well at a certain point
00:36:55too it just seems so surreal i mean i you know looking at the news it is surreal it is surreal i
00:37:00mean have you ever in your life thought you could like pull out excerpts of 1984 never mind never mind
00:37:07nazism like pull out excerpts of 1984 and go you know what i bet they use this as a reference point
00:37:13right i mean it's scary yeah well i mean you know and we're as we sit here today um you know we might
00:37:21be i mean it looks like we're probably he's probably going to declare martial law in minneapolis he's
00:37:25sending troops there oh is he but you know why and this is what i think and this is where i also have
00:37:30rethought this strategy so i agree with waltz and the mayor i think he should bring out the national
00:37:38guard but let me tell you why because that is a game of chicken and what he should do is he and he
00:37:45should bring them out in full force and he should dare trump to dare his people to do something violent
00:37:53to these national guard dare them yeah because they will lose either way if they are shooting at soldiers
00:38:01basically that is trump unofficially declaring uh certainly civil war-like activities yeah certainly
00:38:07insurrection that's insurrection on the with the person in power right like he's this is not a
00:38:13country where you turn against your citizens well we i mean yeah but maga is okay i mean maga would
00:38:20be salivating over that there's not enough mag anymore this is not their country uh i think there's
00:38:25they need to realize this there's still too many of them well yes matt i understand but
00:38:30this is not their country yeah yeah they can go to other countries there are countries that operate like
00:38:36this yeah that is not what the united states was built on yeah go to russia and then talk to putin
00:38:42and see if he likes your ideas and when you go hope to god you have a value to him because he will
00:38:48take your ideas and put you in a prison camp yeah i think a lot of maga too i think they feel emboldened
00:38:54by uh you know seeing uh trump uh uh pardon everybody from january 6th and it's just like yeah we can you
00:39:00know we can do whatever we want let me tell you another secret about those pardons all we have to do is get
00:39:05them on state breaking state laws yeah and they are and then we can throw them back in prison and trump
00:39:11can't do a damn thing about it and they're also um i don't think they realize that in some ways we've
00:39:18learned from the trump game and we are not going to be afraid this time to make altercations to the
00:39:23constitution we're not going to be afraid to do the kinds of things that were done um after world war ii
00:39:29do to establish like real balance back in the system you know like if if that is what has to
00:39:37be done it's what has to be done like you know if we have to quiet things we have to get people
00:39:45talking and if the way to remove that is to remove you know the bait then we'll have to remove the bait
00:39:51like and i don't mean like go out and and do this shit they're doing right i mean of course you know if we
00:39:56have to reverse some of the things the supreme court has done because it's unconstitutional which
00:40:01it is especially where we have the evidence they were bribed to do it i mean all of the people that
00:40:06did it were literally paid bribes so there is nothing illegal and there frankly there's nothing
00:40:12unconstitutional with um you know um just barring supreme court justices that broke the freaking law
00:40:21you know yeah um now what else i mean as far as issues that that uh uh sarah has been uh talking
00:40:32about um i mean what are you know because you did mention too in a text to me you uh she had just been
00:40:38on channel nine is that correct yeah so that was the abolishment thing so we really came out and said
00:40:43that so i think what um we've been told by a lot of people is they'd rather you go out and say i'm
00:40:49going to abolish it and then like sit in a room and basically in that way they want us to raise
00:40:54the bar like okay we're threatening abolishment yeah now in a way we're doing what republicans
00:40:59do right so we're like we're threatening abolishment let's say we win in 2026 we have the numbers to do
00:41:04it then they'll get in the room and talk to us right but if we go in and say well we're talking about
00:41:10reorganization yeah we're just feeding them what they already want to be fed and we're giving them
00:41:16a get out of jail free card they don't deserve that this time that makes sense i was yeah you
00:41:22may have convinced me actually because i was a little bit worried about that no me too i i get it
00:41:26i get it i mean like it's not we're not trying to like induce anarchy in the streets and like i said i
00:41:32didn't want you to fall into the defund of the police trap it's not about defunding it's about basically
00:41:36saying like no i know it's like this but people took it wrong you know what i mean right which is
00:41:42why we're not saying defunding right right yeah but like reorganizing is not strong enough you know
00:41:48like restructuring is not strong enough like um so i heard today that i don't know if people know
00:41:55this ice has the largest number of personnel and the largest number or dhs all of it and the largest
00:42:02number of resources of any other um agency other than the department of what they now call war
00:42:09i didn't know that but it doesn't surprise me because i know ice has been hiring a lot of people
00:42:14so it's another extension of war yeah this is internal war yeah and um you know truth be known
00:42:23it's like oh you know the liberals declared war no they declared war on everybody that didn't think like
00:42:28them and we're just saying you have to resist like you you know this is not someplace i wanted to be
00:42:34i don't i i don't i've never wished ill will or like even probably you know the the uh forceful
00:42:43removal of a president right and i want us to have courts and do that this time because like this man is
00:42:49a criminal he's not a president i mean david muir got on national tv and said um mr president you say
00:42:56you say you want to be in the white house you really should be in prison who said that david
00:43:01gergan david muir oh yeah and he's been pretty like low-key but like he's just had it yeah people
00:43:08have just had it yeah yeah um it's amazing and maybe this is part of my cynicism because i i just seems
00:43:18like they get away with everything i mean it does like that's also the game nothing ever sticks like like
00:43:24how many times over the course of this administration and his first term you know did people say oh this
00:43:30is this is gonna do him in this is gonna do him in and nothing seems to nothing seems and now it
00:43:36kind of doesn't even matter because he's just running out the clock anyway he's almost 80.
00:43:40i mean he's gonna not to be indelicate about it but he's gonna die probably soon
00:43:45be indelicate i want him to die soon um i know i do i i absolutely do like he's he's he's a he's a
00:43:51cancer yeah yeah like he's doing nothing healthy for this country i think his father lived to be
00:43:5690 didn't he he's already like like delirious he's already like it's like standing up he's like
00:44:03honestly he sounds crazier than kim jong-un at this point like who the hell has their like half their
00:44:09country falling apart and what you decide to do instead is hold a press conference for the milk
00:44:13association and babble on about milk for a half hour and talk about how you shouldn't drink
00:44:19five hour old milk sitting or no i'm sorry five day old milk sitting on your desk like how is this
00:44:26even pertinent right right yeah and then you have a bunch of goons around you going like i know mr
00:44:32trump you shouldn't do that with milk i mean where are we this is ridiculous did you hear what he said
00:44:39about aspirin he he's taking way more aspirin than he should be that's against doctor's orders because he
00:44:45wants nice thin blood pouring through his heart which is not how it works he may also there's
00:44:51also watch out for jumping snakes that's the other thing he likes to talk about jumping vipers jumping
00:44:56snakes like and even if they spill their venom on you if you get it on your coat somehow i guess it
00:45:01absorbs into your pores i don't know he didn't come up with a reason but you can die and by the way 28 000
00:45:07people supposedly have died in a year from these vipers when in reality they're only been in the
00:45:14same area there's only been 10 deaths in the last 20 years but you know somehow this equals 28 000 i
00:45:21don't know yeah it's yeah it's magamath oh yeah yeah he just makes it up he just makes it up as he
00:45:26goes um it's just like today gnome got on the air and she said she i like it when they fight against
00:45:31their own stats so like she was like belligerently on um meet the press and she was screaming about how
00:45:39um it was so unfair that the media was spreading these falsehoods because they weren't being honest
00:45:44with the public about 70 percent of the people that they have kidnapped are like violent criminals
00:45:51and the um woman on me at the press is like you know the pundit is like you you said very recently on
00:45:58official you know stats it was like 40 something which we also you know my understanding is that's
00:46:04not even true but and she goes no no i never said that it was 70 70 000 you guys and then she like
00:46:11backtracks and goes well actually they're all breaking the law they're here illegally it's all a law
00:46:17they're all breaking it and then she was trying to nail her down you know yeah how many people do you
00:46:22have to kidnap basically she didn't say that to be fair um and i'm kind of glad she did this
00:46:28not my favorite but just so everybody knows for the most part boycott cbs the ellisons are evil
00:46:35like they're horrible people they're super pro maga and they're getting rich off maga they're one of the
00:46:40small percentages getting rich off maga so and they put on there yep yep and they put on a new um so it's
00:46:47like fox light and they put on a new uh anchor person who likes to you know uh all of the administration
00:46:57members like you know a shout out to rubio and all the stuff oh yeah yeah so you know boycott them
00:47:04yep yep so anyway yeah but but yeah i think um they're getting caught in their own lies
00:47:12yeah they don't even understand the art of lying like it's lying it's not propaganda they don't get
00:47:17propaganda and they have like you know i think miller has propaganda for them but they're all
00:47:24such narcissists too that they all fight about who's going to deliver the message right the message is
00:47:29going to be delivered they're all crazy like so i think that they've done a thing and this was a
00:47:34prediction that they were going to self-implode and i do believe that's what's going to happen
00:47:38i hope so i see i know you're always like i hope so i know what has to be the case matt because if
00:47:44it doesn't happen this country is done i know but so many times it's like oh this is going to do them
00:47:50in oh this is going to do them in so you think an entire nation is going to lay down and let another
00:47:54like nazi germany happen what no but it doesn't take a whole nation it only takes enough it only takes
00:48:01enough people but they're losing numbers not gaining yeah i hope so i hope so you have to like do the
00:48:07hope thing you do and let me tell you matt and i am an optimist by nature but i guess i i'm so
00:48:12discouraged i'm educated in propaganda let me my degrees but i'm saying like uh no all jokes aside
00:48:20but seriously my degree is in public relations so let me tell you like you know the temperature like
00:48:27if you make people if we just constantly tell people and and just constantly like broadcast the
00:48:34success stories it will become you know contagious yeah i mean this thing happened like a virus the
00:48:42opposite can happen yeah yeah it can no it can it can we just all have to believe it and all say it
00:48:48yeah yeah and on the days when you feel like you can't believe it then that's when you breathe that's
00:48:52when you take a breath and check out yeah because that is what we owe the world we do we have we have a
00:48:57voice we have um a podium and you know even when i'm feeling crappy and if i'm not feeling hopeless
00:49:06anymore but on the days where i do feel hopeless i'm not going to do a disservice to this country and
00:49:10get on the air and talk about how hopeless i am because that's not what people are looking for
00:49:14right oh i i agree with you um and i am optimistic about the midterms um and and obviously i mean history
00:49:21is on our side with that anyway because you know a two-term president always loses in the uh in the
00:49:26midterms and they're people have to realize that i and even i forgot this too because again they flood
00:49:32the zone you know they're good for a hot minute of like hitting your nerves and upsetting you and
00:49:38scaring you they're good at fear tactics but it's like very quick fear tactics yeah they're not good at
00:49:44like long-term like propaganda machines yeah because you also can't have like if you look at
00:49:51goebbels if you look at himmler like they were very strategic and they didn't give everybody the
00:49:58same message and they didn't get on podiums and loudly call for like the destruction of people
00:50:05until they were already destroying them right right like i mean hardcore destroying them not like
00:50:11you know they didn't brag i don't even know if they ever did i'd have to look into it i don't
00:50:15even know if they ever admittedly did they ever like get on and like admit to the concentration camps
00:50:19i don't think they did i don't think i don't think they did yeah that's what i'm saying these schools
00:50:23brag about it these schools stand in front of it with rolex watches and do little dances well except
00:50:29for kelly ayotte she pretends she doesn't know what's happening kelly ayotte we have your number
00:50:33honey like nobody likes you yeah we see you governor we see you yeah get out governor get out of office
00:50:40honey oh boy yeah um you know and i think it's also important though but we also have to be
00:50:47realistic and we have to like make the change where we can make the change right like i think we're gonna
00:50:50a lot more further because the other thing i don't want is a blue wave that's like stagnant
00:50:56turn a stagnant puddle which is what we have right now like you know i'm gonna say something you know
00:51:02that maybe isn't so great and so popular but this is my opinion no one else's yeah and not sarah's
00:51:07but like shaheen needs to get off her butt and like leave a legacy that's actually worth leaving
00:51:13like her like that stupid article she put out about how like oh i've made sure that i've like
00:51:18upped the salaries of law enforcement well first off bad optics honey like this is not the time right
00:51:23and like second off like stand up for something like you are about to leave and yes i will not deny
00:51:31that jean shaheen has not done some good things in her tenure but like she's honestly her her track
00:51:39record right now is bismal like she you know who is on their way out this is when you have a chance
00:51:46to really leave a great and lasting legacy pelosi got more fiery on her way out what you're gonna
00:51:52you're gonna go sit in a rocking chair on your way out honey then go sit in the rocking chair
00:51:56like don't waste our time anymore i wonder if we've entered a time when just politicians are not
00:52:02concerned about legacy in the way that they were at one time that's fine then replace them it's not
00:52:06about legacy then politicians have to understand they are basically glorified social workers that's
00:52:12really what you are yeah like part of what i'm doing like this podcast thing that we're working on
00:52:18this is for like you know ultimately i mean it's it's for a pulpit but it's also this is where i'll
00:52:23hopefully you know generate personal wealth whatever it is you know like or more personal
00:52:27wealth or whatever like there is a profit like you know factor to this again we are capitalists
00:52:33right and i'm an entertain and i like to entertain yeah yeah me too yeah entertain responsibly but
00:52:39anyway um but like but the political work i do and the activism i do i don't do for anything other
00:52:46than the fact that i truly believe in it yeah i mean and i believe in this too i just so happen to
00:52:50know how to capitalize on what i believe in but but what i'm saying is like all the volunteer work i
00:52:54do i genuinely do to volunteer like i don't have to do any of it right right of course is my point
00:53:00yeah yeah so so what politicians have to realize is that like you know you really were voted in for
00:53:07the people and by the people so okay fine we'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that like
00:53:13you know as republicans maybe the tide was a little pro trump so initially you did things that were
00:53:20pro trump okay fine you think that's what your constituents wanted that's fine but now they don't
00:53:27want it so now you need to switch gears even as republicans because these are your people so if you
00:53:32indeed truly which i don't believe you're there for but if you're telling us you're there because you
00:53:37are going to do what's right by your voters then do what's right by your voters because they're telling
00:53:41you enough is enough so your job is to throw the brakes on because they can't directly and that
00:53:46is your job right right no well said very well said just like it's the democrats job to step on the gas
00:53:54yeah you know like the two of you have jobs and you're doing the opposite of what you're doing
00:53:59republicans put it on cruise control start to like look at some changes start to get back to talking to
00:54:06your democratic at one point friends and like start doing the work democrats start doing the work
00:54:13start looking like a bobblehead and stop shaking your head to everything everybody says stop worrying
00:54:18about your job because i will guarantee you you will not have a job if you keep doing the crap you're
00:54:21doing we will we will vote you out one way or another mm-hmm mm-hmm well yeah we've talked about
00:54:28that too on the show in the past about how you know it's it's uh the the establishment and this
00:54:34happens on both sides but i'm using my pulpit now to lead the charge i mean i really am like
00:54:37even people that i'm willing to and don't get me wrong there are people in the quote-unquote
00:54:41establishment but they're more junior yeah like i i love goodlander i think goodlander's doing a great
00:54:46job i think you know is she perfect no but none of us are and i think she's doing pretty damn good
00:54:54in a pretty damn and perfect environment right with a lot of people trying to pull her in directions that i i i
00:55:00know her personally and you know i will still stand for her like i'll still go to the line for her
00:55:05because she's a great person i think her heart is where it needs to be she's not voted in certain
00:55:10ways that i didn't like but sure but she's willing to go back on those things too that's the other
00:55:15thing she's willing to like assess those votes and okay admit things you know the lincoln riley thing
00:55:21she's she's now walked back um you know pappas will have to see where that goes but he's willing to
00:55:27like walk some things back and um you know he's not horrible he's not atrocious like there are
00:55:34some things there's some things i wish he'd change um i think he's workable i think it's a workable
00:55:39situation okay and i think goodlander is even more than a workable situation i think goodlander really
00:55:44is just junior um a junior congresswoman who unfortunately has to play the game yeah i mean if
00:55:50you pull an aoc and you burn your bridge too much then you have to rebuild it completely and poor
00:55:54aoc had to do that like i think she had some amazing ideas but like you can't go in fighting
00:55:59so much you know you can't go into like a bare knuckle brawl right the head of power and that's
00:56:05what she did right and that's what she did yeah and she got smacked down yeah whether it's fair or
00:56:10not she did and that's just the reality yeah so you do have to you know you can't go in and try to
00:56:17topple the topple the system by pulling down the the power structure like day one right right yeah
00:56:24that is true absolutely i agree well we're coming up on an hour todd should we start to to wind yeah
00:56:29i i do want to let people know a few wins i think it's important to let that know so first off i think
00:56:34you know let's also you know with the icing i think we can um in our own way here in new hampshire
00:56:42it's it's all like it used to be think globally act locally this is like think nationally act
00:56:46globally i mean act locally yeah so ice is coming we have to stop them from coming um we have a chance
00:56:52right now to stop them before we're in a situation like some of these other you know on these cities
00:56:59are in yeah we don't want them to establish the concentration camp there are ways to do it uh i think
00:57:04that we can explore things like are they going to tax the utilities too much you know what i mean like
00:57:11i think the one win would be the sewer system because like if we go with electricity here's
00:57:16something to think about i've thought this all through if our argument is electricity then they
00:57:21can turn around and say well look at the amheiser bush department like they used a lot of electricity
00:57:26and merrimack did fine okay that's true if we go with water same argument there's a lot of water
00:57:33in distilleries but if we go with sewerage there was not that many people crapping at the plant
00:57:40and they want to put a thousand people in detention this is not going to be a small plant
00:57:46and i mean sorry small i mean basically it's a concentration camp it's a quasi concentration camp
00:57:50it's the entry-level version like i don't i'm not so i'm also not a prop i'm also not like a
00:57:56conspiracy theorist so i don't believe there's like it's not a death camp like directly but it's
00:58:02deplorable conditions it's definitely abu grabi level um or abu dob dob or whatever the hell that
00:58:11place was yeah abu grabe or like guantanamo bay-esque i mean it really is and if it isn't yet that's where
00:58:16they want it to go yeah absolutely and the so i think that you know and also the aclu just um new
00:58:23hampshire has a uh pending lawsuit because ice would not uh divulge the um the documents they
00:58:33were supposed to divulge they promised they would divulge so we're gonna win in like small increments
00:58:40but these small things really cause a lot of wedge and really disrupt things and especially at the
00:58:45build-up phase which is where they're at they don't have we're not trying to like tear down a building
00:58:49they already exist right they haven't built it so this is when we stop it you don't you don't wait
00:58:56until it's this menacing thing right bellowing in the distance then go now it's time to all stand in
00:59:02front and wave signs you're gonna stop it before it's built by the way uh we do have a question uh
00:59:10from sure was someone watching us live on twitch uh oh awesome let's see what you can say this apple
00:59:16flappable liable i'm sure i butchered that and i apologize what's your opinion on the greenland
00:59:21situation apple flappable or something apple flappable i don't know apple flappable apple
00:59:27flappable sounds like something you'd order at a restaurant um greenland well the only reason
00:59:33there's a situation is because trump has made it one i mean it's it's imperialism that's my opinion
00:59:38this is imperialism um trump is an egotist europe didn't kiss his butt enough and so he likes to
00:59:46punish everybody everything's a punishment thing with him and he's like you know he can't handle it
00:59:51like this is how they handle it they're yes oh okay oh nice love it apple is good enough okay good i do
00:59:59love uh dutch apple streusel pie does that count yeah i think uh by the way you know there is one
01:00:09thing about that that trump says that that uh may have some credence to it you know he talks about
01:00:14that i'm holding my i'm holding my pearls now well he talks about national security how how greenland is
01:00:19important uh to us for national security reasons because of where it sits geographically in terms of
01:00:24russia and everything okay that's true that yeah and that is and i've read about that but but the
01:00:30but the thing is there's no like they're already our ally they're already a part of nato so also
01:00:35so why do we need to take it over also we already have a huge we have the largest military presence
01:00:41of any other nation on greenland already right so they're basically if what we want to do is play
01:00:46police we're policing it yeah we're already there yeah i don't so i think honestly this literally is
01:00:53like someone told him he can't buy it so he's insisting he's gonna buy it well the other the
01:00:58other possibility too is that this is a back door to ending nato because if we invade greenland you
01:01:04know it'll be one nato country invading another now that's that's it that's the end of nato or at
01:01:08least the end of our he's not gonna end nato though because he's gonna crash the economy he's
01:01:11gonna crash the world economy if he tries to end nato i don't think he cares i mean that's a that's
01:01:16a republican fantasy ending nato they would love that they don't like us to have allies they don't
01:01:20not business republicans though not the people no not the smart ones but i mean the rest of them
01:01:26but you need the business republicans to fuel these things so like if the market turns against you in a
01:01:31in a basically capitalist society yeah um you know and the whole world is a level of capitalism
01:01:40even the ones that say otherwise i don't think trump cares so about consequences i don't care what trump
01:01:44thinks i'm saying he can't it takes money to do world dominance yeah yeah he's not going to get
01:01:55the funding there's no benefit right but as far as what business republicans think i don't think trump
01:02:00cares because otherwise he wouldn't do the terror a lot of them are against him anyway more than he
01:02:03pretends he pretends like oh like there's actually at this point more stock brokers and people like that
01:02:09that dislike him than like him uh he's got like a handful of loud people that love another uh we have
01:02:15another uh somebody's watching on youtube uh uh skis 13 13 says uh this is just him and putin's uh
01:02:21splitting the world 50 50. maybe true true skis except here's the problem he is you know it this is my
01:02:31we're gonna go back to my pinocchio analogy right like this is this is the um the land of the where
01:02:37wherever the boys used to go you know what were they called i can't remember the exact thing but
01:02:40like the lost boys or wherever they were but like he brings all those kids you know to to the island
01:02:46and they all get to play and eat candy and do all of that and then all of a sudden they all turn to
01:02:50donkeys that's putin's plan like you you only he's putin is hitler basically i mean putin really i'd be
01:02:58more afraid if putin was leaving this country because he'll do that man has no limits right right yeah and
01:03:05he'll he's scary um and he's effective yeah um he'll just pop at trump so trump is is stupid to
01:03:14get in bed with putin um all right well on that oh that's a terrible visual um what's a terrible
01:03:21visual oh yeah yeah i've certainly seen some uh political cartoons though well doesn't putin have
01:03:26all these like all this it's it's probably all um doctored you know it's but like all of these images
01:03:34with him being herculean yes those aren't no those are they're not oh yeah i'm like winning uh judo
01:03:42tournaments and uh do you think trump do you think do you think there's gonna be i feel like i mean
01:03:46not that there'd be a contest but i feel like if there was like talk about like a sword match
01:03:53um we all know that trump is not endowed um that's pretty much been substantiated and i'm sure
01:03:58the the impression would be that um at least putin wants you to think he is um but also to beat trump
01:04:05it wouldn't take very much so that would be interesting you know like like that alone would
01:04:10probably these men are so insecure skizz said uh he is already grabbing as putin yes yeah yeah
01:04:18apple said uh but the thing that i don't understand is why is trump following putin's vision what's in it
01:04:23for him uh ego trump is one of these people that um you know i hate to say anything negative about
01:04:32cats because i love cats but it's like you know they follow the shiny laser pointer in a way that's
01:04:38what trump is and you know as long as that laser pointer says that trump laser pointer he follows it
01:04:42he loves it like he is he's his own worst enemy he's addicted to his own narcissism this man i've never
01:04:50like he's the like he he's a showman but like he's a even at that he becomes an ineffective showman
01:04:59because like no show is big enough and you can't keep on wrecking your own show to build a better
01:05:04show because eventually there's no show left and that's what he does like and he's surrounded by
01:05:10other people like he didn't really get the lockstep people he wanted because like they are but they're
01:05:18not i mean vance is a big puppy dog oh yeah um but like vance is definitely like you know like the
01:05:25the bd snm he's trump skimp but um you might as well walk vance around on a leash but like all of the
01:05:32people under them those people are truly maniacal i mean if you read 2025 it's literally the mind comp of
01:05:38this generation i mean i don't think it's going to happen right and you know something else and this i
01:05:43want to leave people with the thing that we have the one good thing the holocaust did for us is it
01:05:48existed and what i mean by that is this we now have a reference point so we can recognize and we can
01:05:55identify like concentration camps these types of things what gestapo looks like what all these things
01:06:01look like because we've seen it before right if we were back in those days and didn't have social media
01:06:07that's how that worked and we need to remember that there was no social media there were no checks and
01:06:12balances you could put you know how the hell could you build a concentration camp and hide it from
01:06:16the public in this day and age right it wouldn't happen right someone would stumble across it even
01:06:21if it was in the most remote area of the world someone would stumble across it it's impossible now
01:06:26i assume this is a reference to jd vance because said i kick that dog off the couch he's humping it
01:06:31yeah you know you never want the dog humping legs it's always very rude so
01:06:35yeah well on that note all right well it's okay you know we we promised to be like a different brand
01:06:45right yeah i mean i said i wanted to be a little bit absolutely no organically a little crass that's
01:06:50okay i love it i love it i'm here for it um well very good so uh thank you to everyone who joined us
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