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00:00:00thanks for joining us for politipod live for political talk i'm tom bickle and i'm matt
00:00:10and we're here to discuss political to discuss political events tonight we'll cover uh the
00:00:18white house demolition for a ballroom the no kings march and uh the latest on ukraine
00:00:25tesla and giant paychecks gunplay and epstein related news we will also have our segments
00:00:32on international news and fascism creeps we'll start with matt take it away how about a little
00:00:40bit of a demolition we've got the white house east wing being demolished apparently just about
00:00:50the same sort of uh business wisdom that he's shown in his past he's applied it to the white
00:00:55house and uh he's gone full force in the demolition talking they're talking about the entirety swing
00:01:02being demolished within the week and apparently uh there's two big questions one who's actually
00:01:09paying for this and the other question is what are they going to do there i mean everybody talks
00:01:15about a ballroom and that's certainly what he wants because it's what he's familiar with and
00:01:20he likes having a place where people have to dress up to see him but the catch is there's actually no
00:01:28building plan so they've started demolition they'll be done with demolition in the week and they don't
00:01:34have a plan as to what to do with the space once it's there perfect casino logic from donald trump
00:01:44and then there's the costs it's going to cost probably 250 million dollars uh the rumors are that
00:01:52it's some of him that it that it's him and some of his pals some of his business pals are getting
00:01:58together to foot the bill for this but that's a problem in and of itself isn't it because it's part of
00:02:04the white house and the white house is a federal building you know a historical property is he going
00:02:12to build this and then claim that since he paid for it he has to live in it does he does he get to
00:02:19claim that it's additional storage for documents when he leaves is he going to say that it can't be
00:02:26recovered from him even if they pay him back uh we don't we don't know we don't have any answers to any of
00:02:32that um so what do you thought what are your thoughts um what do you think about demolition
00:02:37of the way it is i mean listen uh i feel uh i feel a few things about it uh and it's hard to articulate
00:02:46as numbed and um as numbed and jaded as i am to politics as one must be these days
00:02:56if one is to retain much of one's sanity you have to learn to let go and just uh sort of
00:03:04take a deep breath and keep moving uh because of all the all the just injustices and uh
00:03:13barriers uh what do you call it not barriers but it's a b word um
00:03:17uh when you have boundaries there it is uh all the boundary crossing you have to thicken your skin
00:03:25but and as much as i'm not really super stars and stripey patriotic uh i like what the country's
00:03:33found the fact the country's best ideals i think i'm really excited about but as far as the red white
00:03:39and blue i don't go out for it that hard um and yet seeing the white house just just shattered just
00:03:48destroyed it looked like you know it looked like it'd been bombed out uh with no no warning to the
00:03:57people or you know i i hope nobody was you know in the can in there at the time uh so abrupt was their
00:04:07construction no this is demolition uh destruction and i shouldn't be surprised anyway as as jaded and
00:04:15as much as i didn't think i gave a about the white house seeing it get just laid flat
00:04:22uh was it affected me it bothered me um who told this motherfucker he could do that um
00:04:32and uh anyway so it bothered me more than i thought it would and it bugs me um
00:04:40just two weeks ago or a week ago not long ago he uh he said that uh they weren't going to do any
00:04:48anything there was it would just be new construction no no destruction of existing and
00:04:56here we are uh and you mentioned the cost i don't know where you got the figures from and i i don't
00:05:03mean to just doubt you but the only thing i've heard reported is what he said ah it's 200 that's 250
00:05:10that's 300 and we're just walking around using that number that's what it's going to cost who knows if
00:05:16it's accurate at all he says a lot of stuff matt you know he said the construction wouldn't you know
00:05:24knock down any existing uh building and he and they you know it's getting flatter all the time it
00:05:30looks and it looks like hell and they didn't do any make any effort to preserve anything for posterity
00:05:37if you've ever been to a museum uh and seen things you realize the value of artifacts and uh
00:05:43uh and physical remnants like i say if somebody was in the john at the time they're probably laying
00:05:49under she rock as we speak that's how it seemed careless uh the whole thing was yeah you're absolutely
00:05:57right about that careless is definitely the word and or thoughtless even because that's what he does and
00:06:05also you're right about yeah you're right about the costs he never does cost well uh he never quite
00:06:11bothers himself with the details and he most certainly never pays so there's a lot of issues
00:06:20along the question of costs and payment and what's going to actually happen where it's going to come
00:06:25from and so you're right i agree with you 110 on that there has been renovation work before as you
00:06:31pointed out that's been done and in 90 years ago there were they even took out part of the east wing
00:06:39uh but the point of it then was they built the oval office so they used it for renovating it to make
00:06:47it more useful as a workspace and that makes sense one thing i can tell you for is known for certain
00:06:56and that is we will foot the bill you say there's nothing known about the costs that's the one thing we do
00:07:03know yeah yeah in the end it'll be shuffled off on us like just uh just about every other cost and
00:07:13everything else that he's gonna shuffle off onto us later exactly the whole thing i mean it's it's the
00:07:18people's white house it's the people's money doing it he's suing the people for prosecuting that's a
00:07:24whole different issue uh we're broaching a different issue but um anyway he's unloading
00:07:30the our country like that's off the back of a truck he's destroying you know exponentially more
00:07:37than he's gaining from it but he's willing to burn money if it keeps his house warm uh or something
00:07:42like that right or even makes him look slightly good right right yeah uh and speaking of yeah i hope
00:07:52i hope it's a you know results in some criminal charges for everybody everywhere in this administration
00:08:01that would you know that's the sort of thing that happens uh 20 years after the fact when
00:08:06they put together a committee and decide that oh yeah well really we shouldn't have let him do that
00:08:10if ever but of course they will yeah so he'll get away with it um at least in the short term
00:08:17oh i hate to hear you say it out loud but i can't i'll i'll stop you when you're wrong how about that
00:08:23we don't really we don't prosecute these people anymore i mean uh
00:08:27well forever i mean you know that the whole peace process in ireland with the
00:08:36the good friday accords and one of the military one of the british soldiers
00:08:42who's coming up on charges for some of the things he did is just getting to the court now
00:08:47and it's 2025 and the accords that the good friday accords were back in uh clinton's term
00:08:57so that's how long it takes for things to work their way around right in some cases
00:09:03and there's a whole list of other things that he should be hauled up on charges for i mean absolutely
00:09:10it grows every day copable for and uh ice is one of them on the continuing uh trump's war on america
00:09:19uh the the focus of shift for ice to include new york city uh they came up to new york city
00:09:27recently within the past couple of days and went to an area called canal street which is up in
00:09:32manhattan and it's a place where a lot of people set up to as vendors they sell you know that frankly
00:09:40it's all the knockoffs it's the louis vittin whatever louis vittin sells and right whatever
00:09:49is polo still a thing i don't know ralph loren i'm out of the loop on it honestly but but all the guys
00:09:55who are selling the fakes are up there on canal street and the vendors are everybody knows there's
00:10:04it's not in any way fraud because everyone knows it everyone knows what it is everybody knows what it is
00:10:10and they like the price so they go and they get it and apparently they were ice was out there and
00:10:15they were really roughing up the people and this is the sort of stuff that you um think that they want
00:10:21you know they want there to be fights in the streets they want there to be right they weren't they want
00:10:26that that there'll be pictures they can show of people reacting to them and causing violence but the
00:10:34catch is there was only one of them that was wounded and it was a half dozen or a dozen people
00:10:40who were just going about their business or who were on the the sale on the sales teams out there
00:10:47who got hurt so all of a sudden it's not so interesting to show the videos
00:10:52um but they were out there they caused the trouble this is another part of the war in america that we're
00:10:58seeing and it's expanding from chicago last and now as it continues there it's it's making its way into new
00:11:06new york city uh and that's on top of los angeles portland washington dc i will see where else they
00:11:16move it to one place that they probably won't move it to is north carolina although his sticky little
00:11:25fingers are in there too and the present president of the north carolina state senate has apparently
00:11:35you know working with trump all along the way but no surprise but he has helped to set up some
00:11:42redistricting that's happened in the state and as if it's not already enough there's uh it's 10 republicans
00:11:55three democrats and one seat that you might consider a possible swing district meaning it could be a
00:12:02democrat could be a republican well they've redistricted things so it will be 11 seats republican
00:12:08and three democrats and the graphic right there shows you something that they've done which is
00:12:16at nc1 that means north carolina's first congressional district and the other is north carolina's third
00:12:23congressional district third district is obviously very red very uh the the people in that area are very
00:12:31very um very when they vote they vote republican they're very hard core and in this case you can
00:12:42kind of show by it kind of shows by the depth of the red if you happen to have a color uh streaming
00:12:48going on it's very red and then the light pink and the one in nc1 is because uh actually it could it
00:12:57sometimes kind of goes democratic sometimes there's a democrat who will win up there and actually
00:13:03there's a democrat there who is contemplating what to do because and you see those numbers meaning that
00:13:12that's how much more they went for trump this past election and an nc1 was a plus 3.2
00:13:21which for north carolina i assume is disappointing and nc3 which was over 20 points towards trump
00:13:30even though it was three points trump this democrat still won the congressional seat
00:13:34so he's a pretty strong candidate and to try to
00:13:41mess with him or he was that that one possible swing district so they've redistricted things in this
00:13:48um 2026 proposed redistricting whereas you see it makes things a little more red in both districts
00:13:56or a little more red in nc1 to help try to get this guy booted and then a little less red in nc3 but
00:14:04still over 13 percent uh donald trump if the same vote pattern were to happen again so in other words a safe
00:14:15district for trump to win both cases but they might be able to pick off a democrat and progressional
00:14:22delegation and that's what this whole not a thing of redistricting in the middle of the decade is all
00:14:28about is because they're trying to do anything they can and uh so this is a a a a graphic uh explanation
00:14:43to see what's happening and he did the the north carolina senate president sold out on the redistricting
00:14:48uh because he wanted to get a trump endorsement for the next time he runs for office
00:14:53so that's what the that's the price that it took for him to do this obviously he's willing to do it on
00:15:02at the drop of a dime uh but here he here here his big thing is that he got an endorsement um
00:15:11then uh looking outside of north carolina going a little bit north there's some news out of virginia
00:15:18that continues the trump's war in america in this case as you may know he's been targeting universities
00:15:29and keeping uh university administrators uh busy and usually with demands for millions of dollars
00:15:38and the university of virginia actually appears to have placated that uh the doj attack and has said
00:15:47that the person who was head of the school uh chose to resign instead of continuing to fight them they
00:15:53liked that but then they also promised that the other part of it was we won't pay money but we will
00:15:59report quarterly to the doj to show that we're not using dei standards that to prove to the federal
00:16:12government that dei hires are not there then the trade-off was that they wouldn't be hit with having
00:16:19to pay x number of million dollars uh i don't know what uh what you're thinking about these kind of
00:16:28things or what's going on we'll talk some more about in our other segment fascism creeps about some
00:16:34other examples but of these three is there anything that's on your mind
00:16:42you know the redistricting uh it just keeps getting uglier and uglier and uh you have to get ugly with
00:16:49it or you're left behind so welcome to human nature i guess uh it's unfortunate it's come this way i think
00:16:58we used to travel a higher road not that i'm that nostalgic but it couldn't get it's it's getting
00:17:04lower that's for sure the road that is uh and i think uh colleges i wish they would tell the trump
00:17:11administration to pound sand and they're going to do whatever they want to do but federal money is federal
00:17:17money and uh it's either that or lop off entire limbs of your organization so rocking a hard place uh
00:17:31but it's it's pretty terrible um i think i think they should fight it uh so far the courts have held
00:17:40some weight you know the congress says as soon as they he leaned on it they fell over they're not holding
00:17:46any weight the supreme court's not doing us any favors but uh the regular rank and file courts seem
00:17:53to be still you know on this planet and in this dimension of reality whereas the trump administration
00:18:01is not uh so i wish they would uh avail themselves of that those you know these places don't nobody wants
00:18:10to lose funding or money but these places have money a lot many of them they can hire a couple of lawyers
00:18:15uh and take things to court uh risk it for the biscuit for god's sake this country needs you
00:18:22and uh i want to see that anywhere i can and so it's disappointing when when we don't i guess that's
00:18:28all i had to say about that as well and that kind of brings the uh other side of the argument up as it
00:18:35there were and of course the aftermath and now of the no kings marches and how they went how did they go
00:18:46in your area oh man uh i went out to uh you know in my little uh town i don't want to be too personal
00:18:56about it but uh well i live in a small town and uh like 200 people showed up which uh
00:19:00uh we're lucky we have a little a little protest that i never go to because i'm a bad citizen
00:19:07but um there's five or ten people out there uh many of them a little longer in the tooth but
00:19:14they're out there and they're doing it and they hold flags like peace and freedom and nothing real uh
00:19:19partisan it's just red white and blue and uh yay good stuff but uh they uh when they they usually have
00:19:27five to ten people they had about 200 and it uh it was really encouraging i decided i wanted to try
00:19:32to be a part of something a little bigger so i went uh the next town over and we ended up having
00:19:38about 500 uh there and uh so that's something someplace i uh only protested once before and uh i think it
00:19:48was the no kings last time anyway so good turnout uh good showing everything was peaceful just like
00:19:55apparently most most if not all places uh across the country and um it was nice to see it was
00:20:03encouraging as empowering i think i think a lot of people felt that way absolutely absolutely and it
00:20:09was also well i went to one in the city so it was a larger group of folks i mean we were all over the
00:20:17they shut down the roads and the people were from building to building in the streets uh we were we were
00:20:26all out and it was all and you know what really impressed me was that it wasn't just a protest
00:20:33that people were incredibly good-natured laughing there were things going on people were doing
00:20:41little side things on the sidewalks and people would watch the people marching down the street
00:20:46would look and watching these little side gigs going on on the sidewalks
00:20:49um and get a laugh out of them and it was such a a joyous thing as much as it was making a point
00:20:59the numbers made the point and i think that the fact that it was not uh done in in in in rage which would
00:21:10frankly be perfectly justified since we are where we are but it wasn't because people were
00:21:15uh people got the they understood that the point is uh that uh you want to right now you want to show
00:21:24it and you don't want to you don't want to blow it by going off into a huff and a rage and doing things
00:21:32that will only allow justification for other things i will say um that there i did hear that there was a
00:21:42guy dressed up as trump and apparently not at the rally i was at but he was at another rally and he
00:21:48did kind of get roughed up and that's really yeah i i it's i'm not exactly certain which city it even
00:21:56was we had a guy standing up there on top of some rail there were at one point the sidewalk had some
00:22:03railings yeah there was a trump guy standing on top of the railings and people were just laughing
00:22:08because of the stuff he was saying you know a person in a huge chicken suit came over and he said oh
00:22:13you're wearing my other suit uh you know and he was he was obviously doing it you know he's obviously
00:22:19a comedic person and so people were enjoying that nobody said anything negative to him they were all
00:22:27just laughing and walking by but apparently at another place that wasn't the case and um that's
00:22:34you know oh well that's a shame um but his response was to uh create an ai video showing him in a fighter jet
00:22:48and releasing poop that dropped on uh some protesters i i actually think one of them was a particular
00:22:56person that he doesn't like uh some a journalist or something i don't remember the fellow's name
00:23:02but that was you know that was his response that was taking the high road i guess uh in that he was
00:23:11in a jet maybe that's for him literally yeah yeah you can't you couldn't count you couldn't count on
00:23:19him to take the figuratively high road at any point true true yeah i mean that's uh that's awful uh
00:23:28uh and it's uh it's low class and it reminds me of nine ten eleven years ago when trump hit the scene
00:23:39and he went from anything more than an nbc you know reality show star and alleged real estate mogul
00:23:49and i tried to read about him in the in the press and i'd read any number and he was you know
00:23:56unfortunately he was everywhere so uh it was easy to read a lot of a lot of things but i would see
00:24:02this vein of and it wasn't always clear of people would be repulsed by him but nobody ever really said
00:24:08necessarily why they would or they'd say he was a jerk but they wouldn't really go into it
00:24:13and just over time the fullness you know the layers the uh you know the uh the whole it just has
00:24:22time to hit your palate and you really get the full effect over time of just what is wrong with
00:24:28this person he's incredibly anti-social uh he's incredibly selfish he's entirely uh you know i can
00:24:38say uh not every pervert is a bad person there's nothing wrong with a little perversion in your life
00:24:46sometimes uh if you keep things healthy but this guy is a pervert uh and of of an untold order all we
00:24:56see is the tip of the scumbag iceberg and there's so much in the depths you can just tell um by the way
00:25:05he does his business deals by the way he conducts himself personally anyway um so i'm
00:25:13i'm and yet this is kind of a new low with the fighter jet shit on shitting on america peaceful
00:25:22protesting americans um he has no regard for the first amendment no regard for uh
00:25:31dissent in mind yeah dissent exactly free speech none of that anyway so
00:25:37i shouldn't be surprised but the guy keeps on giving doesn't he yeah a new low every day
00:25:48well we will uh as mentioned before we do have a uh a segment of fascism creeps that we'll get to in a
00:25:56little bit and certainly have a few more things to say about him and his activities
00:26:03uh predilections but first we have another segment and the the segment uh the first segment tonight is
00:26:12international news we're gonna hit a couple of things going on and uh to let you know what we've
00:26:19heard and what our thoughts on on them are uh for instance down in uruguay it's the first nation in
00:26:30that region in south and central america both south and central america uh that has made the legal
00:26:38decision that euthanasia is an acceptable practice now so that is a big step most of the um
00:26:49most of the nations there i think it's fair to say are or have a a heavy influence from religion
00:26:57and would not think of this uh so the the fact that it has happened is certainly newsworthy
00:27:06certainly would like to flush that out a little bit find out what's behind it
00:27:14uh maybe we should talk about each one of these as we go do you have anything on uruguay
00:27:20uh you know i'm behind on my uruguay studies please lean on no worries uh there is the un coming out to
00:27:29say that co2 levels hit new highs this past year so climate change is no matter what no matter how
00:27:38you try to ignore it how much you want to say it's not happening clearly it's happening as far as
00:27:45you know the science behind it the real thing is that that it is happening here we have another
00:27:52piece of evidence from the past what 100 years showing that there's a problem here
00:27:59and so we've got new highs from the past year and that is just in time for the cop 30
00:28:08down in brazil speaking of south america they're keeping it regional uh down in brazil they're
00:28:16going to have cop 30 which is the big meeting of the nation's leaders to come together and talk about
00:28:22climate change this year it's november 6th through 21st i believe uh and that's down in brazil so
00:28:32we'll see everybody going down there and you know i'm sure that uh well except i'm sure trump will
00:28:39have a reason to not go or maybe he'll send marco rubio or you know some headliner like that
00:28:48to join all of the leaders who actually show up he's gonna shit in a shoebox and send that
00:28:53that that's that's what he's gonna do that's what he always does he always when it comes to climate
00:29:01change uh he goes out of his way because he knows it plays good with his base people who have gasoline
00:29:08to get high um yeah so he's gonna he's gonna do something rude he'll uh he'll send somebody i don't
00:29:15know he'll send somebody just terrible he'll send paris hilton or you know the corpse of gary coleman
00:29:24i don't know right so that's what i expect and i'm rarely have i been disappointed from these folks
00:29:32so the real in my mind the real question is greta tunberg has actually taken ships from one place to
00:29:40another in order to not be using air travel and reducing carbon footprint and that's to her credit
00:29:47she's walking the walk she's not just saying things she's really yeah i suppose so showing that she
00:29:53believes what she uh is talking about brazil's quite a long way from scandinavia though i don't know
00:30:01if she's going to be making it down there for it or not i mean maybe she will uh i think that will be
00:30:07actually more interesting i mean she's already said that she's made her point she knows what she's
00:30:15you know she's been very blunt about what she thinks about world leaders and their decisions on
00:30:20this issue and it's not going to be something new for her to do although she could use it as a stage
00:30:28to make the point uh whatever the most current points are but she also may just say look i said
00:30:34i mean all i need to say to these guys they're not going to listen to me they're not going to take
00:30:38action and they're certainly not going to do anything for the environment so why should i bother why
00:30:44should i go at all so we'll we'll see come november uh if that is the case or not
00:30:51uh moving yeah moving on to russia um always good for a laugh oh russia
00:31:04i am on the second floor with windows i just
00:31:09be careful russia um a couple of stories actually there was i think it was last week where actually
00:31:18during their trying to shoot things down in ukraine they actually crossed fire and shot down their own
00:31:28jet one of the russian jets that was flying on the mission was shot down and that's uh are we at a
00:31:36point where if it's it's so indiscriminate that they don't even care if they take down their own
00:31:40appointment and their own soldiers um right could be but uh the larger story in that is of course that
00:31:51there's been uh some movement towards a ceasefire possibly uh the u.s has been both talking about
00:32:03providing long-range missiles that ukraine has been asking for go ahead hey matt uh before we get too far
00:32:10from it i want to ask um that one there is a a wry element of humor to it but the the russian
00:32:19plane that the russians shot down did they uh do you know if the pilot survived i don't see that in
00:32:25the reporting i don't know that for a fact i i seem to remember uh one of the reports saying that that
00:32:34that uh he had jumped out before they parachuted out but i can't remember the source for that
00:32:43okay well just add some color to the story and wanted to wanted to know if you knew right right
00:32:51sorry i crushed your groove but i didn't i didn't want to go too far without asking no worries no
00:32:56worries and we do want to we do want to get through them so um but so the ukraine has been asking for
00:33:01long-range missiles uh washington at one point said yeah we're going to do that now they're backing
00:33:07off of that but that's a typical trump flip-flop there's nothing exactly in there it's something
00:33:13he said exactly next week he'll talk about how he doesn't even want a ballroom
00:33:20yeah for right now for this week in the ukraine uh the flip is a double flip because he is also
00:33:31saying that he's the the he brings eternal peace and negotiates things and he stopped so many wars and
00:33:42it's uh i think it's in the double digits now that he says he stopped um and some of them might have
00:33:48even some of them might have even been real so that's neat but he's saying that he's going to do
00:33:55that with russia and ukraine the latest is that he says uh that so part of the territories that's been
00:34:07that have been disputed during this is that the russians have taken part of ukraine there's a particular
00:34:13region called dunbas which has been the residents have been pro-russian uh to a large extent so
00:34:21the most recent thing is putin is saying no you've got to give us dunbas and the retort now is that
00:34:32trump is saying we'll split dunbas and you have to stop with the have to stop with the war stuff
00:34:38and we have to have an immediate ceasefire uh so that's what we're working that's what we're working
00:34:45on now um so that was actually that was within the last 24 hours that this uh demand for a ceasefire
00:34:55from putin or for uh to putin from trump has been made and we'll see if that's as effective as the
00:35:03ceasefire in gaza which what fell apart in 48 hours um you know i thought it was faster than that but
00:35:13yeah um so we'll we'll we'll get to watch that now china moving slowly down the map towards china
00:35:23they actually have been arresting some of their own leadership that the communist party has arrested and
00:35:30expelled even the number two military leader and a number of other folks they've been expelled from
00:35:38the party and are facing investigation on corruption charges and so what does that say very interesting
00:35:46you have to see what happens this is not the first time that this has been moved by this president
00:35:53uh but we'll see what what actually happens of it and we'll see what the results are
00:36:01you know maybe somebody's uncle just uh came into power and swept out of you know it could be as simple
00:36:06as something like that and just you know cleared house uh who knows i don't know these things right and
00:36:14frankly it could be true it could just be the fact that it's true uh we'll have to we'll have to see
00:36:20and what happens but for the for it to include such a high ranking member of uh the military and the
00:36:27party that's an interesting twist that absolutely we'll make a great cook one day off to france we go
00:36:35back up into europe uh we're talking about the louvre louvre is it louvre it's it's louvre but the the
00:36:43ru at the end is super gentle almost like you're breathing it louvre okay i'll work on it right
00:36:52check in next week right um but the heist that you may have heard there was a big heist there
00:37:01one morning they opened up and about 15 minutes after opening a couple of people went in and came out
00:37:08with a lot of stuff it was 88 million dollars or 88 million euros worth of uh jewelry including even
00:37:16a piece uh that was a piece from the emperor napoleon's collection so they really got away with
00:37:25quite uh quite an impressive heist and also in the beginning of the day someone literally they waited
00:37:32they didn't they didn't break in overnight they didn't break in before they waited for it to open and
00:37:37and then went in and stole the stuff so that's uh that's right impressive me in a way yeah they
00:37:43picked the hard level on the video game you know they picked the expert level and went with it yeah
00:37:51i read a little bit about this story a little little more than i did about uruguay and i gotta tell you
00:37:58it's fascinating uh it seems like the louvre is an easier heist than you would expect being
00:38:05a historic level uh not only a historic castle but one of the world's great repositories of
00:38:18old uh you know art from antiquity to the 1800s um and it's got worse security than your local 7-eleven
00:38:28it's fascinating they uh i read that uh there wasn't there was only cameras here and there
00:38:36there weren't really cameras you know where this key thing happened and that key thing happened
00:38:43how do you not have webcams or something just from hell to breakfast covering every square inch of the
00:38:51place are you kidding me um so i'm fascinated by that i cannot believe that that i guess some localized
00:39:01alarm didn't go off but uh the overall like the alarm throughout the place went off
00:39:08to alert guards to sequester people away and keep them safe uh so i mean that's good but
00:39:15an alarm didn't go off there's not enough cameras apparently no guards i don't know they i didn't
00:39:23see anything about weapons i don't know why the guards i guess the guards ushered everybody out
00:39:28uh but did not challenge these guys i mean they were only there seven minutes so i've heard it said
00:39:35and you can challenge somebody in seven minutes you know it only takes 10 seconds to go hey man
00:39:41just a moment there uh so i'm just amazed at the failures the cascade of failures i can't believe
00:39:52it uh i don't understand i heard somebody proposed that uh confidently that it was an inside job maybe so
00:40:01um they still don't have suspects in hand to my knowledge which again amazing who's in charge of this uh
00:40:10you know uh patel um uh anyway really especially if it is an inside job then you think yeah
00:40:21you know hey who didn't show up to work the next day i mean that would be the top of the list right but
00:40:28we don't but we don't know that that's true we don't know if it was an inside thing or not um but
00:40:34uh yeah exactly i mean people have cameras going all day long people are recording their meals and
00:40:41breakfasts and taking the dog for a walk and doing skits on the couch you know get a couple of ring
00:40:48cameras fellas they're not that expensive even a cheap crap webcam peanuts peanuts it's the gandia mona
00:40:58lisa matt you know what i mean it's uh the crowning of napoleon uh all these things priceless and there
00:41:07they go um and i still don't understand it uh i can scarcely believe it uh and these guys out the
00:41:15window and on to uh i heard that they try i i heard i did not i don't think i read i don't know how i heard
00:41:22uh that they tried to light the uh the lift truck that got them up to that balcony they tried to light
00:41:29it on fire and they were dissuaded and shooed away by uh i think museum security maybe they were pursued
00:41:37anyway uh it's gonna make for a just a banger feature film or a terrific comedy made for tv something
00:41:48this is some clues and bumbling inspector clue so stuff we'll see we'll see what they do
00:41:56um actually there's and there's another story out of france as well uh former uh is it prime minister
00:42:06he was uh sarkozy nicholas yeah yeah yeah yeah um seems that during his campaigns he'd wound up
00:42:18taking money from our old friend muammar qaddafi i don't know if people even would recognize the name
00:42:26nowadays uh but muammar qaddafi not exactly the list of uh you know santa was not visiting qaddafi
00:42:37not a great guy not one of the good uh good children um but lump of coal for sure exactly
00:42:45one good goal for al qaddafi um but he certainly had a lot of money and apparently sarkozy's campaign
00:42:53some deal was struck and um in the in the campaign in the early 2000s some money wound up in sarkozy's
00:43:05campaign uh that has all resulted in him and sarkozy uh going to jail just being uh gone through the whole
00:43:13process and the legal process and he is in the clinker for five years um over that so that's you
00:43:22know look that's a consequence um it's good to see leaders being held to account that there is some
00:43:32form of accountability for those who are in elected positions that's perhaps something we should
00:43:38put a little flag by for later put a pin in that yeah yeah we can prosecute criminal politicians huh
00:43:49write that down
00:43:52and speaking of this brings back uh brings back uh brings uh brings up uh our old friend again uh in
00:44:00and donald trump you may have heard i'm sure you've heard the news story that back down to south
00:44:09america argentina there's uh apparently he wants to help his friends who are there and those who are
00:44:15in power and so in the upcoming election for some reason he's involved himself and said that he's going
00:44:21to give 20 billion dollars um but it's all based on whether or not his friend wins the election if
00:44:28his friend doesn't win they're not going to get the money uh don't we have oligarchs here at home
00:44:35that he can shower with pork we got to go to other countries up we're not you know we've got our own fat
00:44:44cats starving here at home how does he how does he go to another country i don't understand there is no
00:44:50constituency which he will not screw over none he did it to putin i didn't think he would do it to
00:44:56putin he did it to putin he disappoints everybody he comes in contact with no one is immune
00:45:05yeah exactly i mean 20 million would go a long way in child cancer research uh funds that he canceled
00:45:12so you know 20 billion there's a couple of ideas things that he could do with that here
00:45:18there's a number of federal employees who could be uh paid and back paid after the uh shutdown is
00:45:26over there's a couple things he's taking it out on the beef industry for his failure as a steak salesman
00:45:33i feel like he's just ruining the you know there's no reason it does no good except that it enriches
00:45:39somebody who's already rich in another country and the supposed uh motive that he's going to need
00:45:46somewhere to flee to so he's greasing some palms in advance with government money this is all again
00:45:51he's doing it all on our tab he doesn't even spend his campaign funds for this he just spends our money
00:46:00yeah exactly and and it's all to his own aggrandizement um yeah there's there's been
00:46:05another political movement that wound up in whose leaders wound up in argentina i think
00:46:10if you look at historical records somewhere down there so yeah some sort of a precedent set um and
00:46:17actually there's there's even rumors that the amount will be going up that it's 20 uh the 20 billion was
00:46:24the first uh outreach now it's up to 40 could go up to 120 we'll have to see when the actual election
00:46:34takes place as to how much there's a little roulette wheel going around and until the election it keeps
00:46:41going and maybe it will stop here and maybe it'll stop there i'll have different amounts on them and
00:46:46we'll see what they actually are promised in the end before the election and see if his friend is
00:46:53his friend and their friends are elected um you know i saw i've caught some of the coverage of this uh
00:47:00uh unnecessary uh beef price debacle um prices i guess are high right now for america's cattlemen
00:47:12and this is the time when you make good money if you can sell your beef and trump has told them in the
00:47:20press today you need to lower your prices you need to lower just stop just stop making so much money
00:47:28if you're making money i want you to stop that for me i want you to put less money less gas in your
00:47:35tank less food on your table and less money profit in your pocket and you know and these businesses
00:47:42agriculture can be very rough you you make it when you make it rain when you can so that the bad years
00:47:48you can survive i guess uh i don't know how much risk there is in the business anymore but i'm sure there's
00:47:54some and so for him to come in at a time when it's relatively raining you know when it's good times
00:48:01uh and for him to go just you know what don't don't collect that that uh the money that uh is cyclical
00:48:09and you'll probably won't see again for a generation just um you know for me and and my fellow argentinians
00:48:16just just take one for the trumper will you and i don't know uh i don't know how many of these
00:48:25constituents he has to burn before they understand but he's he's counting he's he's on his way he'll
00:48:31find out i presume oh we'll all find out but uh they'll have to pay the price is what it is
00:48:39for those that are i mean as you point out there's a lot of industrial farming and that's not gonna
00:48:44be as um that that's not gonna face jeopardy to the degree that the small time farmers who are
00:48:54a small percentage now because the industries have moved in and taken up the the business but there are
00:49:00farmers that are smaller and that are out there still and they're the ones who will be decimated by
00:49:05this sort of stuff first but they're also the ones who all voted for trump so well there you go
00:49:13a cynical person a cynical person who knows anything about business and i only have the
00:49:17cynicism not the business sense but a cynical person might say uh that when these people go
00:49:23out of business a you can buy them up and b there won't be competition anymore so big companies will
00:49:30get bigger smaller guys will just blip out like the little tiny lights on the horizon they are
00:49:34uh is that a good thing i don't think so no we'll see if they uh can remember that when they get to
00:49:42the ballot box next time and uh we'll wrap up the international news with the two quick uh two quick
00:49:51bits one the european union has said that has made a decision that they they've for a long time they were
00:50:01getting gas from russia it was a big deal in setting it up at the time they were trying to
00:50:08have better relationships with russia and there was a concerted effort by the european union to include
00:50:15russia as a you know a partner and a fellow nation and so they started getting all the pipes to run
00:50:22through to europe and hey that was wonderful uh but uh this is a recent decision the past week or so has
00:50:29been that the eu nations have said we gotta stop buying gas from these people this is ending so
00:50:37they have a plan they're gonna end all of the russian gas by 2028 so that's a good decision they
00:50:45have a timeline they can follow so that they can make certain that they are providing in other ways
00:50:52because that is a source of energy and you got to have it to take care of people who need heat and
00:50:58people who need the food etc so you can't just cut it off immediately but this is a good idea this is a
00:51:05good way to do it absolutely i want to say i want to say thank god that the europeans have swung in
00:51:11uh and did not wilt and did not falter like our president and our country has when joe biden
00:51:18just slipped further and further uh into his age and then trump uh and biden i think was anyway it was a
00:51:31stupid thing for me to say but i mean with the administration uh especially currently not holding
00:51:41up their end of any bargain of not staying strong and tough on russia with sanctions and with uh
00:51:48other support for ukraine and it's you know embarrassing their president in the white house
00:51:54why have the guy there if you're just going to kick him in the ass unless that's the point
00:51:58and it's disturbing and depressing anyway thank god the europeans have uh stood strong
00:52:07where and when they have and shown some leadership and some independence and when this country didn't
00:52:14live up to its best ideals they still stuck by ukraine they could have walked away they could
00:52:20have capitulated uh in ways that they have not um there i i don't know the long and short of it but
00:52:26it seems like they're still materially supporting ukraine for example and staying strong on russia and getting
00:52:33their energy converted or not converted but diverted to it from different suppliers than russia in what
00:52:39two and a half years that's amazingly fast um we've been at war for how long with or not we
00:52:46they've been ukraine and russia have been at war for how long now it's been four years or
00:52:52so i guess you know it's not exactly immediate it's not exactly uh uh instantaneous but
00:53:02excuse me that's a pretty short timeline and uh i'm i'm just uh really glad to see that they
00:53:08are sticking it out because uh i think i wish and i'm embarrassed that we're not
00:53:13there you go another thing that could be slightly embarrassing would be if you were to go across
00:53:22the sea and set up a peace deal and announce how you've bought peace to the middle east and eternal
00:53:30peace at that and then the 20 point plan you have to bring peace eternally winds up falling apart in 24
00:53:3848 hours which is what's happened in gaza the ceasefires collapsed there's a lot of um
00:53:49apparently hamas didn't pull through on some of the promises for the first point of the 20 point plan
00:53:55israel used that as an excuse and went back in militarily
00:53:58back to square one uh so we'll see the the big peacemaker i will see if he can re-establish or
00:54:08reassert his uh peace plan yeah and i'm reminded of a quote i told you about in one of our recent shows
00:54:18uh when i was doing that sort of middle deep dive into trump below those 10 years ago one of the things
00:54:25i read that stuck with me is uh with trump negotiations begin after you sign the contract
00:54:34and it's the same thing here he likes to announce oh i've done it i've done the thing handshakes all
00:54:38around and then you know you go to drive off in your used car and you know it explodes uh it's the same
00:54:47thing here he announced it done it's all done deal and then it's not a deal and it's not done and
00:54:53it were pretty much it's like nothing good ever happened in the first place so it it sucks and
00:55:00it keeps on sucking in that way yeah and not a surprise um all too all too familiar yeah
00:55:10speaking of him and his friends there's uh elon musk who apparently he made
00:55:16um made up with or made some sort of repairs to their relationship
00:55:24through the shooting of charlie kirk and elon musk has his own thing going on apparently
00:55:32there was recently a pay package that was set out by the shareholders or the company decided that they
00:55:40were going to give him a golden parachute of enormous and outrageous amount and the shareholder
00:55:49say was it a trillion it was yeah it was a trail is something trillion or some
00:55:58yes in the trillions and absolutely ridiculous in any you know stretch of the imagination
00:56:05um
00:56:06and the shareholders are supposed to vote on that
00:56:10we'll see there's been a lot of agitation saying
00:56:12what the hell are you doing you know how do you justify this and how is it that you'd want to do
00:56:18this thing um i don't know what do you think that maybe he's uh just hurting for cash and
00:56:25set up the deal or do you think that maybe it's a little outrageous and inappropriate and unacceptable
00:56:31well i think it's obviously over the top i think uh but this is a guy who swings big talks big
00:56:38doesn't always back it up big so of course he's going to make the big ask uh that doesn't
00:56:44it doesn't surprise me in in that way as far as personality wise um i think he's a weaker person
00:56:52now than he's been
00:56:55you know he's been steadily weakening since uh his high and mighty days with doge
00:57:01ever since then he's uh you know he picked a fight with trump and now they're talking about uh
00:57:07divesting even more the government or the american government divesting
00:57:12with all their uh elon friendly products i heard uh heard something about that in the news and
00:57:21tesla's tesla's cars i they had another recall of what 130 000 vehicles how many they have 140 000 on
00:57:29the road i mean that's a lot of vehicles again and it's a battery problem and those things are
00:57:36all battery anyway so i feel like the guy is not really killing it not really firing on all cylinders
00:57:42and maybe maybe i don't know uh can a man worth half a billion uh half a trillion dollars really circle
00:57:50the drain if so he might be and uh seems like he's trying to goose some juice out of this
00:57:56his company uh before something drastic happens uh before things go truly in the toilet that's
00:58:08the sense i get of it uh that's my suspicion i don't know anything
00:58:15fair enough fair enough neither one of us are shareholders so we're not going to be there
00:58:20i don't even have a twitter account anymore
00:58:27um well so we'll have to see what the stockholders decide and if they're able to
00:58:34to come to a reasonable conclusion that brings us to the conclusion of that and we will move on to
00:58:43our other segment the promised it was promised earlier that we'd get to the fascism creeps segment
00:58:50yes sir four and here we are again we're never far from it are we exactly
00:58:57it creeps quite uh precisely yeah consistently speaking of trump's war in america there's
00:59:06the backing from the courts that allows this uh sort of thing there's different decisions made by
00:59:11different judges constantly but the most recent one is that the appeals court judge has
00:59:17backed the use of troops in u.s cities allowing troops into portland and and saying that there's
00:59:24a discussion of whether or not that was all right or not apparently their appeals court feels it is
00:59:30so the justification of it is the real problem
00:59:35and we'll also spur him on to do it whatever else he wants and he has off to new york you know i i really
00:59:42have trouble with this binary flip-flopping where it's legal it's not legal it's legal it's not legal
00:59:48i can't keep doing this matt it's the herking and the jerking is killing me uh and you would think that
00:59:58you know law is supposed to be more of a science than an art you you would think that it's you know
01:00:02it's either black or it's white um i read uh excuse me yeah i read i follow j quo uh last name k-u-o uh
01:00:15and he's a journalist with a legal background and he i i want to say he put it like this there are two
01:00:23actions against two two judicial decisions preventing um national guard being deployed in
01:00:35this area or was it chicago anyway there's two actions and the appeals court
01:00:43sort of repealed one of them but the other is still in place that is the judge's intent
01:00:48who had laid it down but you can't you can't do this in any way shape or form and then there was
01:00:55another concern that that was what the appeals court referred to when they acquiesced in this latest
01:01:02development so there's still uh there's still anyway there's still uh as i understand it legal
01:01:10restrictions from sending these troops but when has that stopped a fella
01:01:15he certainly does not particularly care he will do it and they'll stop him but they'll have to
01:01:24find a way to actually physically stop him because he won't stop just by words alone
01:01:30even if it is the rule of law and speaking of that i mean he's another thing he does is attack his own
01:01:37people he's as you pointed out he doesn't particularly care who he attacks as long as
01:01:42he's shown as the person who is doing the attacking and that that makes him feel more important and
01:01:48and that he's uh on the on the prowl i guess you could say most recently a couple of his
01:01:57former employees bolton and comey
01:02:00uh well so bolton was indicted and apparently they said his having classified materials
01:02:11was certain classified materials was illegal and that that's why they've indicted him and we'll see
01:02:18what actually happens when it comes to the for the case to be heard which is kind of interesting because
01:02:23he had a bunch of files and had done in mar-a-lago he was asked to return them he didn't he was asked
01:02:32to return them he returned some and said that he returned all and then he was uh raided and found
01:02:39out to have a whole bunch of stuff that he's not supposed to including uh having files in the bathrooms
01:02:45and in the ballroom hey documents in a ballroom um the pool room the outhouse
01:02:56so yeah i mean the guy needs a ballroom because he's needed a place for his documents
01:03:02um but one does yeah that's what does yeah so so we'll see they they have indicted bolton on
01:03:11these charges on the particular thing of having a document specific documents and we'll we'll see
01:03:16what how the case actually unwinds and frankly i'd be interested to see how much would actually be able
01:03:22to be applied to his former boss thereafter and the other case is uh comey from the fbi uh he's already
01:03:34been you know he's already filed to have the whole thing vacated he's is it's not a an exact surprise
01:03:43a surprise move from somebody who's been charged but he's gone and done it so we'll see if it even
01:03:51gets past the first hurdle yeah once a judge actually looks at whatever it is the charges are by
01:03:57a person who a younger person not necessarily well i guess she's a she was a certain she sees she was
01:04:05a certain sort of lawyer but it was i don't know what what was it patents or something it was is
01:04:11complete completely different from criminal prosecution oh okay and not something that would
01:04:18give you the most uh well-rounded background to do that sort of thing but she's the only one who would
01:04:26say yes that she'd pursue the case so that's the way oh right all right the gig um yeah yeah i think
01:04:34she was an insurance lawyer or something insurance yeah thank you so um
01:04:43yeah it's it will it's so it's so strange and so that the judge has actually come out in a couple of
01:04:49a couple of times and said i you know are you sure you're doing this filing the way you want to do it
01:04:54or you you really want to go and do it this way you're trying to get to the case in this thing and
01:04:59so the judge is even you know sees sees what uh sees what's in front of him didn't she submit two
01:05:06filings in place of one where like she had a duplicate uh nearly duplicate uh case filing as if maybe an
01:05:15alternative i don't know and uh and the judge called her on it and she was caught out and pretty embarrassed i
01:05:22thought that was the earlier the earlier misstep yeah it was a there's thing where one filing
01:05:30mentioned two specific people and in the other filing said three people and he say the judge was
01:05:36like what happened to the third person and she's like oh there is no third person yeah well but your
01:05:40filing says well no actually my phone he says two people well but actually you have two filings and they
01:05:45say different things uh so yeah yeah you're absolutely right it was uh um perhaps a prescient moment
01:05:54as for what else we will see in this case if it continues past the first week can i say
01:06:02i i just love everything about these two cases uh because as much as i don't want uh i don't i don't
01:06:12think comey did what he's accused of and so it's like we can't lose matt my schadenfreude
01:06:20is gonna get fed one way or the other and if comey goes down which i don't think he will then
01:06:28that dickhead suffers you know and i don't think he deserves to suffer by going to prison but
01:06:34uh he has he has made his choices during these troubled times and uh but i i look forward to
01:06:44him getting off as is the conventional wisdom that i'm reading is that he has a very good uh case to
01:06:50expect to walk away from this relatively whole except for the expense and stress involved and not get a
01:06:57not go to jail as far as we know and can predict john bolton i hear is um more i guess it's a
01:07:05supposedly a stronger case we shall see i don't know what that's based on maybe it's just something
01:07:10someone said so you don't want to hang your hat on that but um john bolton thought he could uh work with
01:07:20trump and be a part of the administration and if uh if that jerk you know uh suffers some consequences
01:07:30uh i i won't be too sad we'll see i don't want an innocent man to go to jail but we'll see what
01:07:38happens huh absolutely tuned in with popcorn indeed and the next item in fascism creeps uh is a story
01:07:52about hakeem jeffries who is the democratic leader in the house and a new york representative in congress
01:07:59and he's had uh threats uh received terroristic threats now they're they have been deemed terroristic
01:08:07threats by a fellow by the name of christopher moynihan who's 34 years old from clinton new york
01:08:14and you may not recognize the name but moynihan's earlier works include being a january 6 terrorist
01:08:23and receiving a trump pardon for his work on january 6th this january 6 thing shows that he's willing to
01:08:31follow through on what he says so when he makes threats towards representative jeffries you know
01:08:38it should be taken seriously and apparently is i expect we will wind up hearing a lot about mental
01:08:47illness in the next couple of weeks before the trial but we'll have to sit and see we'll have to
01:08:56see what happens with that any i any thoughts on mr moynihan or representative jeffries just the sad
01:09:04confirmation that if you don't punish evil deeds they will be encouraged
01:09:11when january 6th happened it was well it was well regarded in public discourse that if you don't punish
01:09:19an insurrection it's just practice and they'll be back and when you send someone to jail for doing
01:09:26something and then you unsend them to jail they might get a feeling of uh i can do whatever the
01:09:32hell i want friend and uh you'll see them again and these you know for for people to get into this
01:09:38trouble in the first place they're either too easily led and gullible or they're criminals already or both
01:09:46so second time's the charm hopefully he doesn't get pardoned again i mean this guy
01:09:54ice is still hiring so i'm sure they've got a spot for him yeah hell they probably he'll probably be
01:10:00executive material by uh by this light yeah exactly he'll be pardoned and made captain of the ice
01:10:07team in his neighborhood that's right um
01:10:14and out in california we talked about a little bit about new york out in california
01:10:19there's a story of an attack occurring on i-5 apparently there were military uh marines in
01:10:27particular i guess who were using live ammunition to set out to shoot honors off for
01:10:34uh trump employee and some of that some of that artillery wound up injuring uh chip
01:10:45is it california highway patrol i it's been a long time since that show was on
01:10:51uh but these guys uh some chip officers and cars and a motorcycle
01:10:55uh were hitting they were part of a an entourage for vice president um
01:11:02that's fucker yeah yeah what's his name this week jd vance
01:11:06jd vance
01:11:09uh and uh so it's it's strikes me that it's really never a safe time to be a trump vp
01:11:17no matter where you go it can follow you
01:11:20what is a more hazardous position than you would expect really you know you think it's a nice white
01:11:26collar cushy job no no you're never really safe
01:11:32too true i don't think he gets a beast to ride around in that's just for the big man
01:11:38there's just got to be something for the number two guy i mean i guess so they say it's not worth a
01:11:44bucket of warm spit but there's got to be a car in it somewhere he'll probably wind up with an airplane
01:11:49i mean they gave one trump gave one to know him i'm sure that there's that he considers them
01:11:55put it on his tab matt exactly exactly something else i understood that i-5 the the the highway that
01:12:05those munitions were across which they were fired was shut down uh by governor gavin newsom whereas
01:12:14the federal administration said yeah it's fine we'll shoot over over the traffic perfectly safe
01:12:21and uh apparently not so safe thank god they shut the place down who knows who knows how many people
01:12:26might have died and what would we have done then matt we're just standing by watching this guy burn
01:12:33house after house after house on every block
01:12:36uh from here to kingdom come and we're just watching it happen congress is assenting to it as a
01:12:44body uh i i don't know you know if he just starts killing people indiscriminately which he already is
01:12:52outside the country uh and it never you can't count on it not to come domestic uh i don't know
01:13:01i don't know what it takes to snap people out of it uh the threat of death the fact of it i don't know
01:13:09it uh it just uh maybe it's just my ptsd but uh it it's hard not to catastrophize and think because
01:13:20it's going to happen so much how it already has people have died people have been locked away that
01:13:25shouldn't have been people have been injured that shouldn't have been even approached uh there has
01:13:31been irreparable harm done already and we're just standing by so uh having him put a couple of
01:13:38scratches in a chp bike and some cruiser um it just it just carries so much portents of how much worse
01:13:48it is a hair's breadth from being fair point fair point indeed and there's also a not uh from military
01:14:02forces but there was a shooter down getting ready to attack the atlanta airport and they were his plans
01:14:10were discovered and he was stopped so there's a there's the silver lining in one story at least
01:14:15where shooters actually stopped um but uh i don't know that do you have any additional information
01:14:22on that one i saw a report about it and uh apparently the guy went in and cased the joint
01:14:31but they were tipped off ahead of time by someone who knew him i can't remember if it was a wife or
01:14:37girlfriend or other family member at the moment it escapes me but apparently someone had tipped them off
01:14:42and uh he was out there in the just inside the entrance to the airport looking around getting
01:14:50a lay of the land who knows seeing where the guards are seeing where they're not uh had a gun out in
01:14:56the truck and uh they wrapped him up uh on this little mini reconnaissance mission before he had armed himself
01:15:05uh just horror you know that could have been so much worse thank god somebody tipped him off
01:15:16or that would have been i don't know number 457 this year or whatever whatever it is that we just live
01:15:22with it um yeah it would have been another one for us to thoughts and prayers and shrug and move on
01:15:28got to go to work tomorrow i don't know that's uh what lather rinse repeat that's where we're at
01:15:35and uh i i wish i could sit with the uh
01:15:44i wish i could uh you know feel outraged about it but we've already been through that so much my
01:15:52synapses are burnt out yeah yeah absolutely it's it's it is good to hear that he was actually
01:16:00stopped there's somebody actually doing the job of preventing these things that we come to think of
01:16:06as so uh so commonplace in our in our society which should not have ever gotten to this point
01:16:16and speaking of things that certainly should not have happened and get into this way and
01:16:19uh to this point in our societies there has been a book written about uh the epstein uh
01:16:31epstein island and the abuse uh and the sort of things that were going out there the young lady uh
01:16:39of virginia help me out with her last name i'm afraid guffrey guffrey uh virginia guffrey uh who later on
01:16:47uh the the tragedy of this whole thing is not only that it occurred but that she ended up committing suicide
01:16:58however her book was she did write a book and it has been released at this point it has stories about
01:17:06a number of people you know we all want the unredacted version of the um epstein
01:17:14document to be released uh from the government they have that whatever it is they have uh this is
01:17:20part of that this is she names names uh she has prince andrew she has a half dozen other people's
01:17:27names in the book and unnamed prime minister as well which i thought i don't understand that
01:17:32too true yeah i i guess it's roundly believed to be ehud barak
01:17:43right right actually yeah i did hear that uh that report as well so there's a number of the rich and
01:17:51famous and powerful and yeah i don't know why the name was not specified when prince edward was and when
01:18:01the others were um but it's it is something as opposed to nothing absolutely it's it's it's uh it is
01:18:11you know it's something that should be acknowledged and her suffering should be acknowledged and avenged
01:18:20possibly through the courts um prince edward on release of the book uh has agreed to give up his
01:18:31titles uh except for prince which i don't think his uh is is his decision i think that they uh feel that
01:18:41being is being born into it they can't take that title away but they can take away the others they've
01:18:48taken away duke of york and they've taken away his position in other groups that status groups that
01:18:54he has been given throughout the years and that's that's really the least that can be done i mean he
01:19:02did give millions of dollars to uh to her but there's you just outside of actually getting this guy in a
01:19:10jail there's not much else that can be done um but they have been doing the things that they have been
01:19:17doing something well let me let me pause you right there if i may what when you say outside of getting the
01:19:24the guy in jail why not jail you know are we are we comfortable with just not prosecuting people
01:19:31because they're super important i mean important to who so uh what i don't and i i admit i'm ignorant
01:19:41of the uh subject on that end is there a reason he doesn't go to the slam no actually there really isn't
01:19:47and that's my point is that that i do agree with you i do think the jail time would do him uh certainly
01:19:55the minimum of what he has earned through his actions but um that's that's an issue and a problem
01:20:04in our society the rich people get away with it and he's going to get away with it he's it's not because
01:20:11you know not because people don't want him to have to pay a price but because
01:20:15they're powerful people who don't want him to have to pay the price we couldn't even keep cosby in
01:20:22prison right exactly what do you have to do yeah you're convicted but you're not convicted convicted
01:20:32yeah i mean our president's convicted 34 times that guy didn't miss a lunch
01:20:36so yeah land of the free home of the brave uh all the criminals are free and none of the prosecutors
01:20:46are brave i don't know yeah right uh too true and that's and that's horrible uh and i don't i don't know
01:20:58i don't know what to do about that uh and i certainly don't want him to get away with it but
01:21:03here we are um but speaking of of epstein and things that are undone things that go trump in the
01:21:14night in the night you can throw that up there uh the yeah days since the unredacted epstein list has
01:21:23not been released we are at day 3781 and counting and we will continue to count up and if it costs us
01:21:33the house so be it if we can't reopen the entire government for it so be it apparently that's the
01:21:43world we're living in yeah yeah and so uh you know here's here's another one of these guys is another
01:21:52guy who should be in jail for the things he's done but uh that hasn't happened either but um well on the
01:22:01good you know uh on the other hand jelaine is just a matter of time before she's free so look forward to
01:22:09that that's just going to be yet another affront that we will i guess take i don't know yeah too true
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