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00:00You used to do this back in college, and if you've been part of a group or anything like that that meets on a weekly or monthly basis, sometimes they do this.
00:09Have you ever done roses and thorns before?
00:11Oh, yeah.
00:11You've done this?
00:12Yeah.
00:12Okay, you go around the room, and everybody has to give you a rose and a thorn.
00:18And I love this because you know my way of sometimes overly positive thinking, so it forces me to come up with a thorn.
00:28But then the whole room doesn't just become thorns.
00:31Let's also have a rose.
00:33Like maybe Tuesday is your thorn.
00:36But, boy, I'd give a rose because Thursday is only 48 hours away.
00:39And Thursday is your rose.
00:41Yeah, boy.
00:41You know what I mean?
00:42And so this is a way to open up the 49er conversation in any damn direction you all want to go.
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01:14What rose do you have for the Niners?
01:17And what thorn do you have?
01:18And we can help you understand what we mean by that by maybe giving you hours.
01:24So it can be anything.
01:26What is it that you feel really good about with the Niners?
01:29And what's one thing that you don't feel really good about?
01:34Roses and thorns.
01:36I have my rose for Robert Sala.
01:39Robert Sala's presence, Robert Sala's return, him working with new young players, him sort of coming up with a scheme that's going to fool all of the Tier 3 quarterbacks that they're going to be playing this year.
01:56However, I feel good about that.
02:00I think there will be bumps and bruises and a learning curve and all of that with some of the players.
02:05But that's where my rose goes.
02:07I feel very good about Robert Sala in charge on the defensive side of the ball this year.
02:13It's great, especially when you have a super young defense like it looks like they're going to have.
02:17And I know he spoke today about a couple of the rookies and how they might slot in.
02:22We'll get to that sound later in the show, and it'll probably be later in the season.
02:25But he's the perfect guy, in my opinion, to lead a younger defense.
02:30My rose is a little bit of a different one.
02:33And the 49ers had very little to do with it other than sucking last year.
02:37And my rose is their schedule.
02:39Because even as you go through with a young defense and offensive question marks or whatever you want to look at for the Niners as shortcomings,
02:48their schedule, for me, is the brightest, reddest, most fragrant rose of all.
02:55Because you've got some teams that probably won't be great.
02:59Everyone's allowed to be better than you think.
03:01But early on, you've got the Saints and the Jaguars in two of the first four.
03:06So if it is a slow ramp-up when you're trying to find out who you have and what action,
03:11even if you fall in Seattle, which is possible, and you lose to a Ram team,
03:16that's a game you're going to probably be an underdog in.
03:19You beat the other two.
03:20You're 2-2.
03:21And you're still trying to find your way.
03:24But you're not facing the same schedule you did last year.
03:27So my rose is the schedule and what it might be able to do for the Niners,
03:32not necessarily being awesome in September.
03:34Yeah, that's a good one.
03:35I mean, that's a good one.
03:36Like, we have all of these question marks, but if you really kind of think about
03:40once they dive into this schedule, it will probably always feel like,
03:45oh, maybe you're only a week away from getting this thing right.
03:48You know, because a win, a win changes everything.
03:51Like, even if you're still not in the greatest spot in the standings,
03:55I think that each week the Niners are going to wake up from whatever just happened,
04:00whether it was a win or a disappointing loss, they'll wake up and they'll look at
04:05what's coming up six days or four days away or whatever.
04:09They'll look at it and go, okay, we can do that one.
04:13We got a shot.
04:14And they won't win them all.
04:16But I think that there's just no game that I feel like sits there on the schedule
04:23where you're like, oh, hell.
04:24Terrified.
04:24Yeah.
04:24Like, I don't want Josh Allen on a Sunday night or anything like that.
04:28Like, they just don't have that this year.
04:30Everything's going to feel winnable.
04:32Four of the last six at home.
04:33And among those six, you've got Carolina here, Tennessee here, at Cleveland,
04:38at Indy, Chicago here.
04:40So even if you are six games to go and you're sitting at, even if you're five and six
04:47at that point, you've got those six remaining.
04:50You could go on a five and one heater and wind up ten and seven
04:53and maybe still make a run for the playoffs.
04:56I do think that this team is likely to be better performing in the second half
05:01than the first half if they have this many younger players.
05:03All right, you got a thorn?
05:05My thorn, and this is a little bit of a – it's kind of a predictable one,
05:09but it's the injury bug and primarily at receiver and running back.
05:14That's my thorn because I'm really, really concerned about the receiver room
05:20where Juwan Jennings has a calf and a contract.
05:24Is it calf?
05:24Is it cash?
05:25Which one is it more of a factor of?
05:27Well, it doesn't matter.
05:28He's not playing.
05:30And you've got Cowing, who I believe returned today.
05:32Good news.
05:33Ayuk out until at least week six.
05:36I'm concerned about the running back depth.
05:38Garendo has been injured, and James with a broken finger.
05:42So my thorn is skill position players' injuries.
05:47Okay, well, I mean, I guess on some level my thorn could be extended
05:53into what you're talking about.
05:55Mine's a little bit more, like, you know, finely tuned as far as its focus,
05:59but what you're talking about is a part of it.
06:02My thorn goes to the Jordan Mason trade.
06:04How much better would you feel right now if Jordan Mason were still on the squad?
06:07A lot.
06:08A lot.
06:08Yeah, me too.
06:10Do you remember what they got for him in there?
06:11I do.
06:12I have it right here in front of me.
06:13I'm glad I asked you that.
06:14Yeah, so they swapped fifth and sixth round picks in the draft that has already taken place,
06:21and then they got an additional sixth rounder next year.
06:25That's what they got.
06:26Now, the bigger part of this also, understand, as is the case with everything in life,
06:31money is involved in this, and Jordan needed a new contract,
06:34and the Vikings did sign Mason to a two-year, $12 million deal, $7 million guaranteed.
06:41That sounds like chump change in the NFL to a degree it is.
06:45I'm not a capologist.
06:47Kyle Shanahan was interesting yesterday when he talked a lot about the need for another receiver
06:53and should they sign Amari Cooper or Gabe Davis,
06:56and he's like, we keep hearing this stat, and it's like, oh, the Niners are among the teams
07:00with the most salary cap space in the NFL right now, and he's like, it's a little misleading.
07:05Like, yes, we do.
07:07However, we do, but that doesn't include major payments that are going to be due to players
07:12in the season, number one.
07:14And number two, they want to roll as much of that cap space over as possible
07:18because next year they're not in as fancy of a cap space situation, and they need to keep that.
07:24So they don't want to spend it.
07:26And do you want to spend a certain amount of cap space on a backup running back
07:33when you feel like your starter is maybe your best player and is going to be healthy,
07:38and your last name's Shanahan, which means you've always found a way to get production
07:43from the running back room no matter who the hell's back there.
07:46Why not just grab Jeff Wilson off the street, for example, and let him back up Christian McCaffrey
07:52as opposed to getting Jordan Mason, and you might feel like your production
07:56could end up being pretty similar.
07:59So I get it.
08:01I'm not saying that they made a terrible financial move.
08:05I just really liked the kid, and I wish he was still on the team.
08:08That's it.
08:09So that's my thorn.
08:10I wish Jordan Mason was still here.
08:12That's a great one, and it just kind of underscores what we were arguing about all last year,
08:17the notion of Super Bowl or bust.
08:19And on my drive in today, I was thinking about all the players, real players,
08:23that actually played who have left, which reminds me of how it was a busted-up scenario.
08:29And so this year for me is not a Super Bowl or bust.
08:32This year is more like what you talk about, Super Bowl or try again,
08:35because you've got so many young guys that you largely will be intact next year
08:41as opposed to last year.
08:42And Jordan Mason is a great example of somebody who you didn't dislike,
08:47but you really couldn't afford him.
08:49You didn't want to pay him $12 million to have 80 carries this year.
08:53If McCaffrey stays healthy, it makes no sense.
08:55Right.
08:55I totally get it.
08:57Just bummed about it.
08:57Yep.
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