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00:00Hey, you remember that Dos Equis deal?
00:03The world's most interesting man?
00:05The most interesting man in the world.
00:07Yeah, yeah, great campaign.
00:08Yeah, my favorite campaign.
00:10I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
00:14Yep.
00:14That guy.
00:15Yeah, yeah.
00:18The wide receiver room.
00:19That's the most interesting room.
00:22Maybe not in the world, but certainly in the 49ers world.
00:25And that's where I think we're going to spend a lot of time this offseason.
00:29There's not a damn thing settled.
00:33Maybe that Demarcus Robinson will kind of sort of just be on the team.
00:37Right.
00:37Yeah, that makes sense.
00:38You know what I mean?
00:38That's settled.
00:40Not that Ricky Pearsall's not settled.
00:42It's settled, but everybody feels unsettled because of availability.
00:47Jordan Watkins.
00:48Kyle gave a good answer on Jordan Watkins today about his trials and tribulations this year.
00:53So I think that he gets another crack at being a guy in the room.
00:56I do want to play this again for everybody because I felt really good about this answer.
01:03And I know that this, it gets people going, but sometimes, boy, I just don't understand
01:10why injuries in sports aren't more relatable for people.
01:13Like, we could be doing all the right things and we are the right person for the job or we
01:19are the, or like all of the stuff.
01:22And then crap happens.
01:24Yeah.
01:25And that's life.
01:28And in pro sports, the people get ripped for it.
01:34Not anywhere else.
01:35Nobody does this to anybody else.
01:40We don't do this to people when crap happens.
01:44The unfortunate, we don't blame people for the unfortunate.
01:50This depends on what happens.
01:51Like injuries and health are endemic to what they do.
01:54Correct.
01:55It's so directly tied to it.
01:56I'm trying to think about the comp for like the average Joe or the average worker.
02:01Like if you're going through trouble at home and it affects your work, you know, your heart
02:06goes out to the person, but ultimately it's a results-based business that you might be in.
02:10No question.
02:10I get that.
02:11It's frustrating.
02:12Like I get that.
02:13That's super relatable.
02:15But sometimes I also feel like it's a moving target.
02:18Here's Nick Bosa.
02:19It's the second time that he's missed a year with a torn ACL.
02:23But I don't hear people being like that.
02:24Dummy's never available.
02:26Like I don't hear that.
02:28Ricky, by the way, seemingly gets blamed for being unavailable last year, which was not
02:34true.
02:35Other than when he got, you know, shot in Union Square.
02:40Other than that, we can talk about camp injuries all we want.
02:43Who cares?
02:44Came back from a gunshot wound and played.
02:48Right.
02:48And that's it.
02:49Well, and the reason why Bosa doesn't get held to the same standard is because he's had
02:53monster years and Ricky Pierce Hall has had two years and neither of the years he's played
02:58a lot of the games.
02:58And so he hasn't yet built up that that equity, so to speak, with the fan base.
03:04I get it.
03:04I mean, he played 11 of them in his rookie year.
03:06And again, the thing that held him out of the first six was a gunshot wound.
03:10Right.
03:10So, like, I'm certainly not coming after him for that.
03:13This year was hard.
03:14It's frustrating.
03:15It's also tantalizing because when he did play at full health, he looked really, really
03:19good.
03:20The four games.
03:20Yeah.
03:20But I, yeah.
03:21Well, he played an eight and yes.
03:23I mean, yeah.
03:24Yeah.
03:24Shanahan talked about four that he was really himself.
03:27And, and, and, but I love this answer because someone at, this was the framework of the
03:33question.
03:34Um, Hey, what can Ricky do?
03:37Is there anything he can do to stay healthier throughout a season?
03:43Uh, yeah.
03:43I thought he did that last off season though.
03:45I thought Ricky had an awesome off season last time, last year.
03:48He got through all the training camp.
03:50It was one of our few whiteouts who did all the training camp.
03:53I think minus the first five days.
03:54And I thought he went into the season as ready, much more ready than the year prior.
03:59Um, added some weight, um, was able to get through a training camp because he did train
04:02the right way.
04:03And that's why I thought he went into those first few weeks of the season, ready to go.
04:06I think if you guys saw the film or you saw his stats, the stats did match the film.
04:10And I think he was leading the league in a lot of categories before he got hurt.
04:14I want to say versus Jacksonville.
04:15And then, um, he landed on his knee in the wrong way.
04:17And when you land on your knee in the wrong way and you hurt your PCL, sometimes that can
04:21last a week.
04:22Like Puka last year, sometimes it can last seven.
04:24And then when you do come back and you land on it again, it happens again.
04:28Can he prepare to not land on his knee?
04:30No.
04:31You know, he, he's, he's trying to, too.
04:33What do I got to do different?
04:34What do I got to do?
04:34I'm like, let's, let's talk about what you did do.
04:36And then let's talk about what happened.
04:38And so I think the main thing from last year is, man, what can we do to come back from
04:42that faster?
04:43Um, when you do come back, what can we do to maybe not redo it?
04:45Um, so it doesn't linger.
04:47When it was said and done, Ricky played as Ricky, um, for, I'd say four games this year, even
04:51though I think he might've dressed in eight, but he was Ricky for four games.
04:54And that didn't have to do with how he went into this year.
04:56That had to do with an injury that he had in week four.
04:58And those are tough to overcome, but I think he found the right way last year and keep adding
05:03to it.
05:03I love the answer.
05:04I, for me, that's a real backing from Kyle Shanahan.
05:08Cause I'm a huge Ricky Pearsall fan.
05:10And I love when he told the story of Ricky keeps coming to me and saying, uh, you know,
05:16what can I do differently?
05:18And Kyle answered it by saying, let's start by talking about what you did do.
05:23Right.
05:23And then put on some muscle, got a little bit heavier, more durable, and he was ready through
05:28camp.
05:28So yeah.
05:28And then how can we get back quicker when stuff like that happens?
05:34But no, you can't prepare for landing on your knee wrong.
05:38Same way.
05:38Fred Warner can't prepare for his foot going the wrong way.
05:41Yeah.
05:41Nick Bosa can't prepare.
05:43Michael Williams can't prepare for their ACL getting torn.
05:45Neither can Jimmy Butler.
05:47Like, I don't know, man.
05:49I am still as I'm bummed, but I'm as high on Ricky Pearsall as I was before last year.
05:55Yeah.
05:55I'm just, I'm there on Ricky Pearsall.
05:58I'm not that high on him for a number of reasons.
06:00One is I'm still, I'm concerned about his ability to play through all 17 and the gunshot
06:07aside.
06:08Sure.
06:08He came back last year and he had, you know, four or five good games at the end of the
06:12year.
06:13And this year you saw the bright spot and you were rightly puffing out your chest.
06:18Cause you were all about Purdy to Pearsall.
06:20That was your big thing in camp and you were all high on it.
06:23And he came out in four great games and he didn't make it in the end zone, but he was
06:28their big wide receiver threat.
06:29And then the knee happened and he missed, he ended up dressing actually for nine games,
06:33but one of the games he kind of barely dressed and he only got one target in that game.
06:38But even when he came back, he clearly wasn't the same Ricky he was early and yeah, you
06:43can learn how to fall, but you can still have your knee get caught up.
06:48You've got 11 guys trying to tackle you.
06:50And just because you fall a certain way, doesn't mean you can avoid injury.
06:53You can learn how to fall in like wrestling where it's all choreographed.
06:57You can learn how to fall if you're just falling on your own.
07:00But when somebody else is forcing you to the ground and falling on you, uh, sometimes
07:04it's going to go poorly.
07:05Watch a lot of football.
07:06It goes poorly a lot.
07:07It can.
07:07Yeah.
07:08Yes.
07:08And that's why they outlawed certain tackles like the hip drop tackle and the horse collar
07:12because you realize that, Oh, those are things that are avoidable if you stop tackling in
07:16that way.
07:17But the way Ricky got hurt, that just is going to happen sometimes.
07:20And so it doesn't mean he's injury prone, but you come back in year three and you need to
07:25have a durable year in my opinion.
07:27Okay.
07:27Check this out.
07:28So how about the wide receiver?
07:29That's not here.
07:30Um, the more we learn about this, the crazier it gets.
07:34Just the, the whole brand and I use situation from top to bottom.
07:37After you hear this, I wonder how this kind of resonates with everyone.
07:41First of all, listen to John Lynch talking about brand and I use the plan in terms of
07:46the transaction that will come in due time.
07:48I think it's safe to say that he, that, you know, he's played his, his last snap with
07:52the Niners.
07:52Uh, it's unfortunate situation that just went awry.
07:55I will look long and hard at what, uh, could have been done differently, but sometimes
07:59it just doesn't work out.
08:01And I think, uh, that this was, this was a case where that happened.
08:04Okay.
08:05It went awry.
08:06It went awry.
08:07And I love that he's like, let's look long and hard at how it happened because I'm someone
08:11that while I think Brandon Ayuk went AWOL and sideways, the Niners absolutely bear some
08:17responsibility for this.
08:18Cause as I said earlier in the week, he gave you all the clues you needed and then you
08:23went and signed him anyway to big dollars.
08:26Yeah.
08:26Huge mistake.
08:27Huge mistake.
08:28Obviously.
08:28And it went awry.
08:29And it's something that we've talked about that it's sometimes it's about signing the
08:34person and not the player.
08:35And in this case, the person, like you said yesterday or the day before he kind of was
08:39showing you who he might be.
08:41And yet you went ahead and signed him anyway.
08:43And what John talks about there with the, the contract procedure based on when you decide
08:49to cut him, it depends on when the cap hit gets accelerated.
08:53It's going to be 29 million dead cap charge.
08:57And a lot of that's the bonus that you already paid him, but you prorated it throughout the
09:01life.
09:01And so that can either be accelerated this year or you can divide it up over two years,
09:06depending on when you decide to release it.
09:09But it is some, some found money with regard to the Niners off season.
09:14Lynch was asked about that.
09:16Does that help off season spending?
09:18Yeah, of course it does.
09:19But you know, there, those things are complicated and you know, with the cash that comes, there
09:23comes a cap acceleration and things of that nature.
09:25But yes, it, it, it obviously does affect things.
09:29So that's what you're talking about there, but it does.
09:31There is going to be some maneuverability for the 49ers off season spending.
09:37And this is part of it.
09:38And already going into this year, they realized they had to cut a lot of money, which is why
09:42they let some favorites go and they freed up some money.
09:44And so now going into this off season, they have more money than they did going into last
09:48off season.
09:49And you know, if they decide to release them after June 1st, that 29 million gets split
09:55over two years.
09:55So they have to decide financially if they want to just eat the 29 now, or do they want
10:01to split it up over two years?
10:03That's something that normally in a situation you would do the player a solid.
10:07And when the league year starts in mid-March, you would cut him then that way he can go
10:11out and get a new team.
10:12But I don't know if you're of a mind to do a solid for a guy who didn't do you a lot
10:17of solids.
10:17Yeah, I do.
10:19I know that they're not of that mind.
10:21Listen to this answer.
10:22Here's the money one.
10:23Because this is so much worse than anybody might even realize.
10:29He flat out just disappeared.
10:33Listen to the way these two guys sound when they're asked.
10:38This is a great question, too.
10:39Y'all have any idea why Brandon was so mad?
10:43Have you been able to determine why he was so upset, why he wasn't showing up, and just
10:47any background you can give on that?
10:49I wish I knew.
10:50Yeah.
10:51Can't help you there.
10:52Sorry.
10:53Has there been a line of communication with him?
10:55There was, but neither more.
10:58At what point did that snap?
10:59Um, well, when I'm coaching, I don't hang out in the training room at all.
11:05Um, so I don't see guys much that way.
11:08But I'd say it officially stopped for me when last time I tried to get a hold of him and
11:11couldn't.
11:12And then tried a couple more times and still couldn't.
11:14And then that matched everyone else that was trying to get a hold of him and couldn't.
11:18And eventually, there's not much of an explanation because it's really hard for us and anyone
11:23else to understand.
11:25And that's why it's something I've never seen in 22 years of coaching.
11:28So, it's unfortunate.
11:29It's confusing because it's confusing for all of us.
11:32So, but it eventually becomes it is what it is.
11:35And you try as hard as you can to fix something that you don't understand.
11:39But it's not like we understand it very well still.
11:41But eventually, you understand that it's not going to change.
11:43And you got to move on with your football team, which is always the most important thing.
11:47Can you imagine signing a four-year, $120 million contract with an organization?
11:51And then you're like, I'm not returning your calls.
11:54Like, no.
11:55And nobody has any clue why.
11:58Well, it's funny you say that because I think about Jimmy Garoppolo and how he was impossible
12:03to reach.
12:03But that at least was off-season.
12:05Right.
12:05But those were questions like, would you want to get together for coffee when you're in town?
12:11Right.
12:11Not like, mayday, mayday, where are you?
12:15Where are you?
12:16Do you want to be a niner still?
12:18Do you want to come in and rehab and be in meetings and be a part of what we're doing?
12:21And apparently the answer was no.
12:23And we talked to his friend and former trainer, TJ Houshmandzada.
12:27And TJ was beside himself.
12:29He didn't understand, like, why that this would go that way.
12:33Yeah.
12:33TJ's like, dude, he's a stubborn you-know-what.
12:37Right.
12:37And once that mind is made up, it's made up.
12:40Nobody knows what the hell it's made up about, though.
12:43Like, nobody knows what brought him to wherever he is.
12:46Right.
12:46The one thing that I think you can kind of glean through all this is that he really, really
12:51doesn't want to be a 49er anymore.
12:53So he just stopped being a 49er despite the fact that he was under contract.
12:58And maybe his agent didn't tell him, hey, if you don't show up, you know, they can kind
13:03of void your deal.
13:04And so a lot of your money goes away.
13:05Maybe he didn't even care about that.
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13:16Also related to the wide receiver room.
13:19Where is this one?
13:19Kyle Shanahan was asked about team speed.
13:22Yes, definitely.
13:23Being fast helps.
13:25Being good helps.
13:26There's lots of ways to do it.
13:27But you'd love it balanced out perfectly with your whole team.
13:31Offensively, defensively, special teams.
13:33Because we definitely noticeably were slower this year than we have been in years past.
13:38You know, sometimes that's substituted for a better football player.
13:40That doesn't mean you're always worse because of that.
13:42But it is, you definitely need more speed out there to handle things week in and week out
13:48for some of the situations that come up for certain schemes and certain defenses, certain
13:51offenses too.
13:52Oh, that was a pretty interesting answer.
13:54We definitely were slower than we were in the past.
13:56Yeah, and you can see that.
13:58And, you know, it happens pretty fast, pun intended, where Ricky Pierce saw one of your
14:03fastest guys and he's got a PCL.
14:05So he's not able to go out there and help.
14:07And Fred Warner, who's a fast linebacker, he is gone.
14:09And so even the speed you did have, you lost a lot of them to injury.
14:13And I thought it was also interesting the way he talked about the depth and, you know,
14:17the change they had to make where they couldn't pay all the guys.
14:20And so normally if Fred is gone, well, you got Dre Greenlaw and you would have had Hufanga
14:25and you would have had other pieces that you had on your team before.
14:29Due to injury, you could have slotted them in.
14:31But instead, it's like, all right, Rook, you're up.
14:34Man, work to do.
14:36Work to do.
14:37And by the way, the only other newsy thing that came out of today, and this is bothering
14:41some people, and, you know, whatever.
14:44You're welcome to have an opinion before something even happens.
14:47But they certainly sound like Gus Bradley is going to be the defensive coordinator,
14:52higher from within.
14:54It sounds like it's going to be Gus Bradley.
14:57This is what Shanahan said on the D.C. search.
15:00I'm going to say it's a real wide net, but, I mean, Gus is the obvious one to everyone
15:03and it is to us, too.
15:04Gus would be the main internal candidate.
15:06We feel very fortunate to get Gus and great about that.
15:09But also we are going to go through the whole process.
15:11There's requirements we have to do and stuff that we want to do also.
15:14So hopefully we can get it settled sooner than later.
15:16But I see it working throughout this next week on it.
15:19I mean, when you bring up names and just be like, this is an obvious thing to us, I don't
15:23know, it'd be pretty surprising at this point after that answer if it's not going to be Gus
15:28Bradley.
15:29Right.
15:29But, you know, there's things we have to do and stuff.
15:32And, you know, Rooney rule primarily to where you have to, you know, interview candidates
15:35who are either female or minority.
15:38And that way, you know, you can at least go through that dog and pony show, even though
15:42you're an organization that's been very good about hiring all different kinds of people.
15:46But I also thought that it was interesting that he's really the only internal candidate.
15:52A lot of people have been talking about KJ Wright as a guy who might be a future coordinator,
15:56but I don't think that he's quite at that spot yet where he can be the new D'Amico, you know,
16:01and go from position spot to coordinator.
16:04You probably want somebody a little bit more seasoned at this point.
16:06It's probably also hard to jump like Gus Bradley's kind of, I think the 49ers did, they knew
16:11Robert Solomon going to be there for very long.
16:14So you flank him with someone else who's done it at a very, very high level.
16:17And then if you jump that person with someone else, well, then that person's gone.
16:23The obvious thing to do is now Gus goes to where Robert was and KJ Wright can go to where
16:28Gus was.
16:29Start grooming KJ Wright to be the defensive coordinator after Gus Bradley's not the defensive coordinator
16:35anymore.
16:35Hopefully it's more than a year and stuff.
16:36And Kyle had a funny answer about that.
16:38Like, you know, his family's getting all mad at him because he wants to go on vacation
16:42and he has to tell him, sorry, I still have to do this now.
16:45And so hire a defensive coordinator for the 87th year in a row.
16:48Fifth time, right?
16:48This will be a five and five or it's already been five and five.
16:51Gosh, is it?
16:52Cause it was, uh, you know, last year, Sala and then Sorensen.
16:56I can honestly say I'm going to be here for a year.
16:58Steve Wilkes.
16:59And then D'Amico the year before that.
17:00D'Amico the year before that.
17:01And Sala the year before that.
17:03So there you go.
17:03So, yeah, I mean, the Shanahan family is like, come on, dad.
17:06Can we, can we go to Hawaii?
17:08Come on.
17:09Seriously.
17:09Seriously.
17:09Seriously.
17:09Seriously.
17:09Seriously.
17:09Seriously.
17:09Seriously.
17:09Seriously.
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