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On "Forbes True Crime," Barry Levine, author of "The Spider: Inside the Criminal Web of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell," discussed the secret recording system Epstein installed at his properties and what could be on the recordings.
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00:00interest because it has been six years since Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, around six years
00:06since his death, and there are still more questions that remain, still more answers
00:11that people are looking for. What do you make of the fact that this is an issue that's not going
00:16away? This is a story that's not only not going away, but gaining even more traction?
00:22Yes, Brittany, I have to tell you, I'm just amazed at the level of interest in this particular case
00:29now. I think it is even greater certainly than it was at the time of his arrest, and then of course
00:37the subsequent death behind bars in New York. There was of course interest at the time, but the level
00:45of interest now is as red hot as, I mean, it's almost unbelievable. And a lot of course has to do
00:55with the dynamic now of President Trump and questions about the extent of his relationship
01:03with Jeffrey Epstein. But more so than that, we're finally at a point now where there's so much
01:11interest, not only among the American public and Donald Trump's MAGA base, who of course have believed
01:18in conspiracy theories related to the story for years and years. But we are finally getting to
01:26the point, I hope, of actually getting full transparency on the Epstein files, the files that
01:32the FBI has. We're talking about 300 gigabytes. We're talking about material that could easily fill
01:40a couple hundred thousand pages of documents. Plus, of course, there's additional physical evidence
01:48and videotapes that the government is sitting on. And the level of interest is, you know, I thought
01:59about this the other day. Had they just released the documents as they had promised, as his Attorney
02:05General Pam Bondi had promised months ago, after she invited those conservative influencers to the
02:13White House and gave them the white binders that said phase one of the Epstein documents, along with
02:20the fact that they were going to release a phase two down the road, which is where we're at now.
02:26The fact that over Fourth of July weekend that they came out with a two-page memo and basically said,
02:32Epstein committed suicide, there's no blackmail, there's no client list, and it doesn't warrant
02:40the release of any material. That has just sent people through the roof in terms of how upset they
02:48are, particularly among his base, among the public. And, you know, and of course, I'm in touch with
02:56some of his victims. This whole thing is traumatizing. They want to get to the bottom
03:02of all this. And so they want to see, along with me and the American public, they want to see the full
03:09disclosure of all the documents.
03:13And I think that that July 7th memo from the DOJ was so surprising because Pam Bondi,
03:18the Attorney General herself, said earlier in the year, I have that client list sitting right on my
03:24desk. Now they're saying there's no client list. Essentially, there's nothing left to see here.
03:30But there's a lot left to see, according to most of the American public, and we want to see it.
03:34That's what people are saying from both parties, Americans from all corners of this country.
03:41And in your book in 2020, this is what you wrote. These are the questions that you still had five
03:46years ago. How the sex trafficking enterprise operated, who was involved, and what evidence his
03:51alleged surveillance apparatus captured? Because you write that victims testified and said that
03:57he was taping everything in his properties. So are we any closer to getting any of these questions
04:04answered? I mean, what are the big questions you still have?
04:07Well, I just wrote this past week, an essay in the New York Times opinion section on it.
04:14I expanded it to nine questions about what may be in the Epstein files. And we can start off with
04:22the video. I think that while the government has acknowledged that there's 10,000 tapes of
04:31child abuse, that doesn't answer the question of what happened to the secret surveillance video
04:40systems that Jeffrey Epstein had in all of his homes. You know, what's interesting, and it's ironic,
04:47that before he was investigated by Palm Beach police at his mansion there, beginning in 2005,
04:59Jeffrey Epstein had asked the Palm Beach police to help him install secret surveillance video cameras in
05:06his home. He said that he feared that some of his staff might be stealing from him. And so some officers
05:16from the Palm Beach police came over and worked with his technician to install video cameras. And these video
05:25cameras were actually used by Jeffrey Epstein to record interactions he had with victims. But more importantly,
05:34the possibility that those video cameras captured interactions between wealthy friends of his and some of his
05:45victims. And this, this same operation took place not only in Palm Beach, it took place at his mansion on the
05:54Upper East Side of New York. It took place at Little St. James, his island in the Virgin Islands. It took place at his
06:01Zorro Ranch in New Mexico. And it also took place at his apartment that he had in Paris. So there was video
06:12of interactions between Jeffrey Epstein and these young women and children, but also some of the other men that
06:20he had entertained. And I want to know what happened to all those videotapes. We know in one of the
06:27the evidence listings, that there's an evidence listing for 70 CDs. Now what do those CDs show?
06:35What do you need?
06:39What theenkull plum?
06:44What do you want to say?
06:47Because I talked to myself for a little bit volte.
06:49Just a few videos in a tour, I talked to them for a second.
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