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Angry #redsox text of the day!
"Red Sox are undefeated since the deadline, but you keep talking about Craig Breslow"
No big move, the right move?
"Red Sox are undefeated since the deadline, but you keep talking about Craig Breslow"
No big move, the right move?
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00:00Would you like the angry Red Sox text of the morning, Curtis?
00:05Why are you angry?
00:06617 text that says Red Sox are undefeated since the deadline,
00:13but you morons keep talking about Craig Breslow and what he did at the deadline.
00:18I don't know that we keep talking about that.
00:20We have discussed it from time to time.
00:22Good morning.
00:24We have discussed it from time to time over the last couple of days.
00:27He looks like, hey, maybe he looks like in this position right now
00:32because of the way of Giolito and Bale's pitching that he made the, you know,
00:38not necessarily he made the right move,
00:40but there weren't deals out there that he could get done.
00:43Yeah, I've seen the building of the fall guy,
00:48and that is going to be Breslow if and when the team falls off
00:52because Karabas has been saying that there were people in the building
00:57miffed at his indecisiveness.
01:01And I would also just say, like, I don't know if anybody believes this.
01:05According to Bradford, you had Theo Epstein, you had Alex Cora, Sam Kennedy,
01:11John Henry, Gordon, everybody in the room on the trade deadline day.
01:16And according to most of the reporting,
01:19the offer to the twins for Joe Ryan came very late.
01:22And why, if you're John Henry or if you're Sam Kennedy,
01:29who we could ask Thursday at 9, or you're anybody in that room,
01:33you have the ability to say, hey, call the twins, give them this offer,
01:41let them know that we're here, and if they get a better one,
01:44to give us a call and we'll try and sweeten it.
01:46It sounds to me like it was your typical negotiation tactic
01:50where you're waiting until the end so that you are going to hopefully
01:54get the best deal for yourself.
01:56But I agree with you.
01:57But Joe Ryan, Greg, I understand that the twins are having a fire sale,
02:01but Joe Ryan isn't one that they are saving money on.
02:05He only has $3 million coming his way.
02:07Right.
02:08So it's not like in the last minute they're like, oh, no,
02:10we have to offload this guy, otherwise we're set with the bill.
02:14Yeah, I mean, the reporting or the whispering is that by the time
02:18the Red Sox got around to taking it seriously,
02:22the twins had already moved.
02:24They were making so many other moves.
02:27That's crap.
02:28I don't buy that.
02:29Because if you really are willing to move on from Joe Ryan,
02:34if you're Minnesota, and a good enough deal comes in,
02:38whether it's at the 11th hour or if it's a week before,
02:44you take the deal.
02:45So then what happened in your mind?
02:46I think that the deal that Breslow offered wasn't good enough for the twins.
02:52But that's when you have negotiations.
02:54And I think that's what's frustrating to people is that for Craig Breslow
02:57to come on the show and say everything was on the table.
02:59We put guys on the table that we said we were never going to.
03:02We got uncomfortable.
03:03Yeah.
03:04So if that's the case.
03:05But do you 100% believe that?
03:07So what's he lying about?
03:08Well, I think that there were guys that were on the table,
03:14but for a certain price.
03:19And he wasn't willing to part.
03:20You're talking prospect price, not what it's going to cost you.
03:24Prospect price.
03:24He wasn't willing to do that.
03:25Yeah, whether it's prospects, whether it's current guys on the current roster.
03:30Like, I don't know.
03:31Maybe he says to Minnesota, okay, we'll give you these prospects, A, B, and C.
03:37And they're like, oh, we want those, plus we need you to throw in Durant.
03:40It was feeble because it came late and it didn't have what they wanted.
03:44That's why Ken Rosenthal called it feeble.
03:47And I just want to ask everybody.
03:49Well, then that's my thing.
03:50It's really you didn't give them what they wanted.
03:52Does anybody believe that Craig Breslow was operating the war room at the trade deadline
03:57and it was up to him and him alone what they could and couldn't do?
04:02No.
04:02Does anybody believe that if John Henry, Theo Epstein, Sam Kennedy, or Alex Corris said
04:07we need to make a deal, figure it out, that he would have had to figure it out?
04:11Yes.
04:11So then why does anybody waste a second on Craig Breslow?
04:15He is just the figurehead.
04:17He was the 10th guy to interview for the job.
04:19Why do we allow these?
04:21Like, they've already started it.
04:23Carabba's talking about how people in the building, and I believe him completely.
04:27Yeah.
04:27Completely in the, people in the building were very frustrated by how rigid he was.
04:33Like, okay.
04:34Well, they can't be frustrated if they were all there at decision time.
04:37Right.
04:38And they weren't telling him, you got to do it.
04:40I got calls on Saturday with Ken where people were like, well, I mean, Breslow didn't want
04:44to make the deal.
04:45I'm like, Alex Corra makes three times what Breslow makes.
04:50John Henry owns everything.
04:51Like, are you really telling me that Craig Breslow was the one who was in charge?
04:56But he's the one finding all the traits.
04:58So it's not John Henry and Alex Corra.
05:00Yeah, exactly.
05:00But if Craig Breslow doesn't get an actual trade offer on the board, then he has nothing
05:07to propose to them for them to tell him to accept it.
05:09Well, my guess is that John Henry says, we need to get X player, figure out what the deal
05:13needs to happen, and let's execute it.
05:15But there may be something.
05:17I think I heard you guys talking about it Saturday.
05:20There may be something to the suggestion that there are, that teams don't like dealing with
05:27the Red Sox and haven't for quite some time.
05:30Right.
05:31Was that you guys talking about that?
05:32There's a lot of people out there that believe that they are being spun for PR purposes when
05:37the Red Sox are, quote, in on something, when the reality is the call is just to do a,
05:43to make it accurate that they were in on X player, whereas other teams at the deadline
05:47just want to get a deal done and aren't being used for PR purposes.
05:50I think if John Henry and those guys are in the room, and I kind of lean a little bit to
05:55Shime's point, but I think that he's basically said, okay, Bres, you're gonna do all the
06:03baseball stuff.
06:04He then comes back with a package and says, hey, John, this is what we should be willing
06:09to do to get Joe Ryan.
06:13Minnesota doesn't like that.
06:14And maybe John Henry goes, if you think that's best, Bres, then let's not do that.
06:20If you don't think it's worth it to give up, Duran part of that deal, and I'm just using
06:24his name for example.
06:25But it doesn't, it costs you three million bucks, like, and prospects.
06:29Like, I, if that deal, I just think they were way too late on it.
06:33Like, I don't think that deal ever was presented to them.
06:36And John Henry said, no, Curtis, like, you don't, you don't think that, right?
06:40Yeah.
06:40I know, not at all.
06:41Yeah.
06:42I think that they were not as aggressive as they want us to believe they were because
06:48John Henry really wants to have the maximum amount of flexibility with all these young
06:52guys around.
06:53And they traded several, several top prospects to get crochet.
06:58And now their other prospects are playing in the big league club.
07:00So maybe they don't have the depth that other people.
07:02So do you think John Henry says, you can trade all, you could trade player XYZ, prospect XYZ,
07:11but you can't trade these guys?
07:13I think John Henry.
07:14Right.
07:14So, so, so I don't put it on John Henry.
07:18I'd put it on Breslau.
07:19If you're not giving Minnesota the best possible option, and I'm not buying that.
07:25Wait, so you think John Henry wanted them to trade more and Breslau said no?
07:28No, no, no.
07:28I think that Breslau went to Minnesota, gave them an offer for Joe Ryan.
07:34That John Henry probably approved of.
07:36Yeah.
07:36Yeah.
07:36Yeah.
07:37Whatever.
07:38And then Minnesota said, no, we want more with that.
07:43Okay.
07:43So then Breslau said.
07:45I think John Henry probably said, everybody is on the table except the password.
07:50Well, if you believe Jeff.
07:52Do you ever use the Google password when they say use a strong or do you just create your
07:56own?
07:56I always create my own.
07:57I use the same one.
07:58Yeah.
07:58Bullet one, two, three.
07:59That's really bad.
08:01I don't, I mean, it seems fine.
08:03One hacker gets it.
08:04I do have trouble.
08:04I did have trouble logging into Roku to watch the game the other day.
08:08This DoorDash account is loaded.
08:11Is baseball ever going to be on just the regular network that one gets on their cable system
08:15or how is that going in the future?
08:17I have no idea, but I do know that if the Red Sox wanted Joe Ryan, they would have Joe
08:22Ryan.
08:24That's really simple.
08:25And it is not because of Craig Breslau.
08:27It's not because of any of the way the scouts.
08:30So then who's it because?
08:31It's the organization.
08:33So the organization said, we want Joe Ryan, but we're not willing to give up this piece?
08:39What it takes to get him.
08:40Right.
08:40Which is why they call it the pursuit people.
08:41So then that would be on Breslau.
08:43But if Ryan was on the table, Curtis, a texter wants to know, if Joe Ryan was on the table,
08:48why didn't anybody else get him?
08:50If that's what the Red Sox wanted.
08:51Because his salary was not onerous for the Twins.
08:55He is not someone that they're going to have to pay a lot the rest of the way.
08:58It's three and a half million or something.
09:00So they'll wait to the offseason.
09:01And they want the best possible deal.
09:03Right.
09:03So nobody gave them the best possible deal.
09:07The only deal that they described as feeble was from the Boston Red Sox.
09:11Right.
09:11But to Greg's point, if there was a good enough deal out there.
09:15No, I'm just saying, why did they call it feeble?
09:17They didn't say that about it the other time.
09:18But now they.
09:18Somebody's a huge Avengers fan, because I think that's what Thanos said.
09:23Oh, that's what, that's what's the best explanation.
09:25Feeble human beings.
09:26Right.
09:27But I just look at if Breslau gave, they gave a counter to Breslau.
09:32Minnesota gave them a counter.
09:34I don't care if it was at the last hour.
09:35A lot of deals get done the last hour before the trade.
09:38The last 10 minutes before a trade deadline.
09:41Minnesota gave them a counter.
09:43They elected the Red Sox not to go with whatever that counter is.
09:49Listen, they're undefeated since the deadline.
09:51So maybe Breslau was spot on.
09:53Right.
09:53If I don't, I don't put the trade.
09:55Honestly, I put the trade.
09:57Them not doing nothing, getting somebody.
09:59I put it on Breslau.
10:00Good morning.
10:01Hi.
10:02I think Henry says, hey, you're free to do what you want with the baseball.
10:06You know, if it's a money situation, and clearly it wasn't, so he doesn't have to sign off
10:10on money.
10:114-0 since the unfortunate incident in Fall River, I'll tell you.
10:14Yeah.
10:15They look pretty good.
10:16He's getting the last laugh right now.
10:18Did you see the text that Ken sent Sam?
10:20It's a video of him cheering when everybody was booing.
10:23No, I didn't see that.
10:24But yeah.