WWE Summer Slam Night 2 Reactions

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02:41But for this episode, we are jumping straight into the reactions from night two of WWE Summer

02:48Slam 2025 and what a huge ending to the night.

02:52Let's start with Cody Rhodes defeating John Cena via pinfall in the street fight to once

03:00again become the undisputed WWE champion.

03:03Not only does he win the match, he wins it clean.

03:06I get it.

03:07It's a street fight.

03:07It's not clean.

03:08There's tons of weapons.

03:09And I love how people were acting like there was something wrong with anything Cody did

03:12during the match or John Cena for that matter.

03:14It's a street fight.

03:15It's supposed to be weapons and everything else.

03:17I love the match.

03:18I thought it was a fantastic match.

03:19I thought it was the best match of the entire Summer Slam card.

03:24And honestly, I love the fact that Cody won the way that he did.

03:28I know there were people who were expecting The Rock to appear.

03:30Some kind of interference.

03:31A double turn.

03:33Was John Cena's baby face turn on SmackDown legitimate?

03:36Was it nonsense leading to something different here?

03:39I actually love that it was real.

03:41I love that John Cena is back to being a baby face.

03:44The fans were not going to accept this heel turn.

03:47They just weren't.

03:47In terms of a program and a storyline, the John Cena heel turn is a colossal failure because

03:53of the lack of follow-up by The Rock.

03:56That being said, the baby face turn, though I think in a horrible placement, putting that

04:02on a SmackDown, I think works out very well, especially for what's coming in the future.

04:08Cody Rhodes winning the championship.

04:10Now he is freed up to move into another program.

04:13Who knows who his opponent's going to be?

04:14I suspect at some point we go down that rabbit hole of Cody versus Randy Orton for the world

04:20heavy, the undisputed WWE championship.

04:23John Cena, as they were finishing up the match, I'm thinking to myself, like, where do we go

04:27from here?

04:27I was actually, when he was still in the ring, you knew somebody was going to come out.

04:31I actually expected The Rock to come out and be angry that Cena lost and all this other

04:36stuff.

04:36It would have made a lot of sense, again, for the storyline.

04:39But like, we should all be, we shouldn't even be surprised at this point.

04:42The Rock not there.

04:43And that's, you know, a lot of ways disappointing if you were expecting it.

04:47I'm over-expecting it.

04:49I think The Rock, he shows up when he wants to, doesn't care what programs he damages or

04:53what storylines he affects.

04:55He's in it for the money.

04:57That's where my head's at at this point.

04:58I don't see him doing things that are better for the business.

05:00Now, when he came back originally and he tried to take Cody's spot at Mania, bad idea.

05:05They pivot, they shift, they go to the Cody and Seth Rollins tag team match.

05:11I was okay with that, though it wasn't something that The Rock wanted to do initially.

05:15I loved it on all the documentaries, try to claim like he thought this up.

05:19He did not.

05:19That was the fan reaction that caused that to happen.

05:21I thought the build-up to the 41 situation, I'm sorry, the 40 situation was fantastic.

05:28Going into 41, coming out at the Netflix premiere and making it sound like you buried the hatchet

05:34with Cody, only to go to the I want your soul nonsense, leading to the Elimination Chamber,

05:38the John Cena heel turn, the Travis Scott involvement.

05:41This was set up to be amazing.

05:43We still have never had any follow-up from last year when he did the whole handing him

05:48a gift when he shook his hand thing on Raw.

05:50There's been no follow-up from The Rock.

05:52Why would we expect there to be any tonight?

05:54The thing that shocks me is the appearance of the returning Brock Lesnar.

06:00His music hit.

06:02There was a huge eruption from the crowd.

06:04I think as many people were cheering because they were thrilled to see Brock, as we're shocked

06:09that Brock Lesnar is still involved in an active lawsuit against WWE from Janelle Grant

06:15that he was able to appear, this actually validates something Triple H said a year ago

06:20when someone asked him at the press conference about Brock and he said, you know, we're willing

06:24to do stuff, it's all up to Brock.

06:26What is when Brock's ready to do business?

06:28Well, apparently Brock is ready to do business.

06:30Apparently TKO, the legal team, is willing to work with Brock Lesnar because he came back

06:36tonight.

06:37And I'll be honest with you, right?

06:38For a few seconds, you know what I really wanted to see since this was his last SummerSlam,

06:43and no matter how you cut it, Survivor Series is not as big as SummerSlam or WrestleMania.

06:47I was actually kind of hoping you would have brought out maybe the four biggest rivals that

06:52John Cena has ever had, the ones that you have that you can get there.

06:58You could have had Randy Orton, you could have had Brock Lesnar, you could have had CM Punk.

07:01It would have been great to have Edge, but obviously that's not going to happen.

07:04Pick another opponent that Cena had an amazing program with or a long-standing feud with.

07:09Even if it was Triple H himself, I don't even care.

07:12And have the four guys surround the ring, get into the ring, and celebrate with Cena for

07:14his last uber-huge PLE appearance.

07:18I would have been okay with that.

07:19Not that I was surprised that it was not that.

07:22We need something for Cena to do.

07:24He has nine appearances left the rest of the year.

07:27It looks like, look, let's think about the timing here.

07:30This, to me, tells me that they will probably see this match in Saudi Arabia.

07:35That's what makes sense to me.

07:36Cena vs. Brock, the Saudi Arabian government probably got involved in this conversation.

07:41It's probably a big part of why WWE and TKO were willing to bring Brock back, is for the

07:46Saudi Arabia payoff.

07:47That's where I think we'll see this match.

07:50He hits the ring.

07:50He hits the F5 on Cena.

07:52It sets up a future encounter with these two.

07:55In the Cena retirement tour, this is what I didn't need.

07:58Not that I'm against Brock.

08:00Look, I get all the personal stuff, and I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole with that.

08:05But, again, that's character outside.

08:08I'm just talking about within the business.

08:10Within the business, all along the way, for years, since he debuted, I've always been a

08:15Brock Lesnar fan.

08:16People who have seen the website that I used to have up, pictures and stuff like that.

08:21It was one of my favorite pictures when I took a picture with Brock Lesnar in 2003.

08:24I've been a long-term fan of Brock's.

08:26So, seeing him come back, I'm thrilled to see the guy back.

08:29At the same time, when you only have limited dates, I want to see Cena do things that make

08:34an impact for talent that are going to be there when he's gone.

08:39We've seen Cena versus Brock.

08:41We've seen it multiple times.

08:43We saw it way back when he was still, you know, Thugonomic Cena.

08:47We saw it again when he became, you know, Super Cena.

08:50We saw it again when Brock came back at Extreme Rules.

08:53We saw it again at a SummerSlam after that where Brock took him to Suplex City 900,000

08:58times.

08:58We've seen it over and over and over again.

09:01We don't need to see it again for this farewell tour.

09:05Now, it's interesting I say that because I almost sound hypocritical because we did,

09:09we wanted the whole CM Punk thing, but that was different.

09:12It was very different because the pipe bomb and all that stuff was so historic and that

09:15all came out of that feud.

09:17I can't remember a whole lot of stuff other than the actual matches themselves that came

09:21from the Cena-Brock stuff.

09:23If you were going to bring back former opponents, this would not have been one that I would

09:26have gone with.

09:26Now, we already saw the Randy Orton.

09:28We saw the CM Punk.

09:29So I guess maybe this ties into like trying to check off one more time with all these people

09:33that he's had history with.

09:35I just would have preferred it be a newer talent somebody.

09:38And if you're going to run it back with somebody, run it back with Seth Rollins now.

09:41Seth is now the World Heavyweight Champion.

09:43Cena could have ran that feud back.

09:46We still would have loved to have seen Cena and Roman again if you're going to run something

09:50back.

09:51Those make sense to me.

09:52Even a Cena solo, a Cena and Jacob Fatu, a Cena and I don't need, Gunther we've talked

09:58about repeatedly.

10:00All of those make sense.

10:01We only have nine appearances left.

10:02Mathematically, it's almost impossible for most of those to take place.

10:05I wouldn't even mind a Cena-Dominic Mysterio feud.

10:08As weird as that may sound.

10:10How bizarre would this be?

10:12Ready?

10:12Here comes my crazy booking.

10:14Dominic Mysterio on the 16th of August at Triple Mania for AAA is going to be wrestling for the

10:20AAA Mega Championship.

10:22You know how much I think it would be hilarious to have John Cena win the AAA Mega Championship

10:28before he leaves?

10:28Or go to TNA and win the TNA Heavyweight Championship from Trick Williams?

10:32I don't even care.

10:34All of that makes more sense to me because of who you're in the ring with than this does.

10:38Again, not sad to see Brock.

10:40I like seeing Brock, but this didn't hit the way I would have loved for it to hit.

10:45I would have preferred the Rock or something else that made more sense.

10:48The double turn or something.

10:50But at the end of the day, easily the best match, in my opinion, of the night.

10:54It was not a long match, so to speak.

10:57It took up a good chunk of time, but a good part of that time was walking around.

11:01You know, it was 37 minutes, 45 seconds total time of the match, which I guess is a lengthy

11:06match, certainly by WWE terms, but with all the walking and all that, it took up a lot

11:10of time, just saying.

11:12Let's go to the rest of the card because we've got to cover the rest of it, too.

11:14The show opened with what could have easily been the main event, Naomi defeating Rhea Ripley

11:20and EO Sky to retain the Women's World Championship.

11:25Look, I predicted that ahead of time.

11:27I don't see Rhea conquering her Achilles heel in EO Sky unless it's at WrestleMania.

11:34I think this is beautiful for Naomi now getting a chance to go for that Crown Jewel Championship.

11:41What I would have liked to have seen is Jade Cargill pick up the WWE Women's Championship to

11:48have that big match between Naomi and Jade for that championship.

11:53Obviously, they didn't do that, so now we're going to see, I guess, Naomi and Tiffany Stratton.

11:56Unless something changes between now and then, we could still see Stephanie Vecure in France

12:01win the championship there.

12:02There is rumor that they're going to put a rocket ship on her and shoot her to the moon,

12:06too, so that's possible, but I think the Ripley-EO thing has to happen at Mania for Rhea

12:11to finally get her win over EO.

12:13It is also strange that Rhea's never won at SummerSlam.

12:15I actually had not thought of that.

12:17All the more reason, it leaves that for a future opportunity, and Naomi, this may be one

12:22of her final big runs because she wants to start a family, and she's got some reproductive

12:26concerns.

12:26So, I'm thrilled for Naomi.

12:30It was a decent match.

12:31I don't think it was anywhere near as good as the match at WrestleMania that they had,

12:35but this was still a very solid match.

12:37We go to the tables, ladders, and chairs match.

12:39All right.

12:40This is where I'm going to complain a little bit.

12:42I get it.

12:42The original TLC had a lot of outside interference.

12:45Each team had somebody who came out.

12:46I was fine with that.

12:49I think, you know, the Wyatt Six had Nikki Cross come out.

12:53DIY having Candice, which it looked like Candice took a heck of a spill there.

12:57Hopefully, she's okay.

12:59Fraxium has nothing, nobody that could have come out for them.

13:03You could have had an NXT superstar debut and represent them.

13:07Same thing with the Machine Guns.

13:08I don't know who you'd have had to represent them.

13:10Street Profits had B-Fab there.

13:12Everybody should have had somebody, and you missed an opportunity here, in my opinion,

13:15because Andrade and Rey Fenix could have had somebody come out who's not on the card,

13:19who needs to be, if you're really serious about his talent, and that would have been Penta.

13:24Imagine the eruption if Penta would have come out for Andrade and Rey Fenix.

13:28I actually was kind of hoping that they would do an angle where the Wyatt Six would have

13:33attacked Andrade before the bell started, and you could have taken Andrade out of the

13:37match and replaced Andrade with Penta, and Penta and Fenix could have won the championships,

13:42so you could have unified the Lucha Bros.

13:44I would have loved that.

13:45Instead, Wyatt Six retained.

13:47I'm okay with the retention.

13:49Here comes my complaint.

13:50My complaint is, I'm okay with outside interference, one person per team, but this was like six

13:55people, or five, six people against all these other teams that didn't have anywhere near

14:00that advantage.

14:01It gets to be laborious.

14:03It really does.

14:04It's one thing you had Eric Rowan come out.

14:06I was fine with that.

14:07But then when you also have Nikki Cross, and you have Uncle Howdy, it gets too much.

14:13Especially when we go to our next match with Becky Lynch retaining the WWE Women's Intercontinental

14:20Championship over Lyra Valkyria due to the outside interference of Bayley.

14:24Now, we've got back-to-back matches with outside interference directly resulting in the outcome

14:29of the match.

14:30That is a problem.

14:32It's a problem because it's a pattern.

14:34This was a great match, and I always expected Bayley to get involved, but if she's going

14:38to get involved, you had to do less in the ladder match, the TLC match.

14:42Instead, you have crazy interference in the second match.

14:45You have crazy interference in this match.

14:47I'm fine with how it went down.

14:49Really didn't turn Bayley heel, but it's definitely something you could do if you wanted to.

14:53I'm really hoping they don't turn her heel, but it does make a lot of sense for her to

14:57align with Becky Lynch as like the OGs to go against the younger generation, but we'll

15:01have to wait and see how that plays out in the coming weeks.

15:03And then we get to this running theme here.

15:06Solo Sokoa defeats Jacob Fatu by escaping the cage or retains the WWE United States Championship.

15:12Again, massive outside interference, one guy coming out to defend Jacob Fatu, three guys

15:19coming out for Solo Sokoa.

15:20It's obnoxious.

15:21It's overkill.

15:22Unless you were going to debut more people to help out Jacob Fatu, the guy's got a family

15:26infinitely long.

15:27Bring somebody else in, okay, or do something, you know, and this was just too, there was

15:32no feasible way for Jacob Fatu to win this match.

15:36And I think the high spot everybody wanted was the flip off the top of the cage.

15:40Did you save that for the post-match part where he had JC Mateo and Tonga Loa in the

15:46ring?

15:47And I love the spot, but that should have been something he did to Solo, not to two lackeys

15:52after the match is over.

15:54It really killed the importance of him hitting that moonsault off the top of the cage.

16:00I was okay with Jimmy Uso being out there.

16:02I was okay with all the other guys being there.

16:03I just, three straight matches with outside interference, and it created anxiety heading

16:09into match five where you see Dominic Mysterio retain the WWE Intercontinental Championship

16:14over AJ Styles, essentially clean.

16:18Not clean because, you know, he unzips his boot.

16:20AJ puts him into calf crusher, much like the WrestleMania match with Eddie Guerrero versus

16:26Kurt Angle years ago where, you know, Kurt Angle puts on the ankle lock, pulls off the

16:30boot.

16:30Eddie gets away.

16:32The difference here being that he takes the boot and waffles AJ with it, hits the frog

16:35splash for the win.

16:37I'm okay with the win, but because of the previous three matches, you were waiting for Judgment

16:43Day to come out the whole time, expecting outside interference, and there was none.

16:47None whatsoever.

16:48Finn Balor and JD McDonough were not anywhere on this pay-per-view.

16:52That's a problem.

16:53They're the World Tag Team Champions.

16:55They should have been featured somewhere.

16:57This is a match that needed some outside interference.

17:00They could have easily had it.

17:02AJ could have fought it off, and you still could have done everything you did to finish

17:05up the match, and it would have made more sense.

17:07This match needed it.

17:09Some of the others did not.

17:11And then, of course, we're back to the Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Brock Lesnar thing.

17:14So that's the rundown of the card.

17:16Overall, let's do it this way.

17:19Night two, a decent show.

17:22Some really incredible.

17:23I think the Naomi, Rhea, Io match was solid.

17:26I think the TLC match was actually very good.

17:29I just didn't love all the outside stuff, especially Wyatt Six related.

17:33Becky and Lyra, they delivered.

17:35I just didn't like the outside interference.

17:37Again, Solo and Jacob Fatu was a little bit of a letdown.

17:40I felt like it was very, very basic.

17:42You know, there was not the complexity that you were hoping to see, especially from Jacob

17:47Fatu.

17:47The guy can do much more than just doing his backflip.

17:50He really can.

17:51And superkicks.

17:53I feel like all the matches between these guys, the whole bloodline faction, any side

17:57of it, is all a superkick party.

17:59People make fun of the Young Bucks for superkick parties, but that's the entire bloodline except

18:03for Roman Reigns.

18:05So whatever.

18:07That match just did not wow me.

18:08The Mysterio Styles match, 10 minutes, 45 seconds.

18:12That match should have gone a lot longer.

18:14I think it could have really delivered in a much longer.

18:16Another five minutes.

18:18Five to seven.

18:19Really give them time.

18:20And for two reasons.

18:22One, it makes the pay-per-view feel more substantial.

18:26Two, Dominic Mysterio is heading into headline triple mania.

18:30Dominic Mysterio, I'm just giving my opinion, has become such a consistent performer.

18:35It would be beautiful to see him really put into an opportunity to go out there for a

18:40much longer period of time.

18:41And that did not happen in this match.

18:44I really would have liked to see him get more time to showcase himself.

18:48The Cody-Cena match, by far best match of the night.

18:51Now, in comparison to night one, I don't think there is any match on the card both nights

18:58that competes with the Cody-Cena match unless, I cannot believe I'm going to say this, the

19:03Drew McIntyre-Logan Paul-Randy Orton-Jelly Roll match.

19:06That's the only other match that I felt like had the level of intensity that this match

19:11had.

19:12Go figure.

19:13And a big part of that being Jelly Roll taking those two huge spots with Logan Paul.

19:19Pay-per-view as a whole, very happy.

19:21I thought night one was better than night two, except for the final match.

19:25But as a whole, the two nights, fantastic pay-per-view.

19:28WWE is doing a great job.

19:29I wish there'd be less interference, less repetitive booking for the storylines.

19:33But look, nothing's going to be perfect.

19:35I think Triple H is doing a fantastic job, and we have a lot to look forward to in the

19:39coming weeks and months.

19:41And I can't wait to see where we go with the next with John Cena's retirement tour.

19:45But we got nine more appearances, several in France.

19:49We've got Perth.

19:53We've got at least three pay-per-views in the United States.

19:56We've got that last December appearance, probably a Saturday night main event.

20:00So a lot to go.

20:01We'll have to see where that goes.

20:03All in all, great night of wrestling action.

20:05I hope you were surprised.

20:06I hope you were entertained.

20:07WWE put on a good one tonight.

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