- 02/08/2025
An online fantasy romance turns into a nightmare when Mauricio Guerrero breaks into the home of an OnlyFans content creator. Guerrero is taking the stand in an effort to convince the jury it was all an act of sexual role play.
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00:00it's rare for criminal defendants to take the stand it's a risk few take at stake their freedom
00:13or even their lives she said she wanted to be obsessed with her to be a stalker this is mauricio
00:22guerrero he's accused of breaking into a home and filming explicit videos of a woman he met on
00:28only fans and adult online site and i believe that what you would want me to do will he be able to
00:35convince a jury that his actions were all part of a role-playing game that the victim willingly
00:41encouraged or will the prosecution be able to persuade the jury that what was supposed to be a
00:47fantasy romance resulted in a real crime the defendant goes into her belly lifts up the covers
00:54takes a video of her vagina take a courtside seat with the prosecutor a woman can play with a boy's
01:04heart she can lead him on but that doesn't make it okay for him to do what he did the investigating
01:09officer the internet's dangerous place the mental health counselor who followed the trial mauricio
01:15does not fit into any of the well-researched stalker categories not even close and the legal analyst
01:21covering the case the victim actually had sex with the stalker and muddied the waters for the jury
01:29i'm dan abrams and this is taking the stand raise your right do you solemnly swear i'm being honest
01:37with everything i say to you do solemnly swear the whole truth and nothing but the i would like to
01:42testify the testimony you are about to kill truth and nothing but the truth so help you got
01:47she had a page on the weekends where she would post nude pictures and videos and then bennett was her
02:00subscriber fan if you will he went from being attracted to evacuated to obsessed and he made a series of
02:08very poor very alarming ultimately very criminal on the status they become lovers and there's no
02:14question about them they had a conceptual sex twice they are lovers by definition all right they
02:21floss their line this is a story about how the physical acts that make something a crime for one
02:28person might not make that a crime for another if their state of mind is different did you talk about
02:34things like the stalker game like obsession game marvel tell us what she was saying about that
02:38she said she wanted to be obsessed with her to be a stalker that she liked it
02:4522 year old mauricio guerrero is facing up to 15 years in prison for four burglary counts two counts of
02:57criminal trespass and two counts of invasion of privacy prosecutors claim guerrero broke into
03:03the victim's home multiple times hidden her attic and committed depraved acts because these are
03:10felonies guerrero is facing the possibility of becoming a registered sex offender for his adult life
03:17but the defense believes that putting guerrero on the stand can convince the jury that he was just a
03:23naive younger man led on by an experienced woman for financial gain one of the things that is
03:32concerning about this case is really what he is his client and she knows she's known this very long
03:38she's been playing it very long and he doesn't know that he thinks that they actually have usually
03:44enjoy the relationship what i'll say about the victim here is that she knew that what she did for a living
03:54could be used against her and i think that she has never shied away from participating in
04:00this process so you know i thought she was incredibly brave for that due to the nature of
04:05the case the alleged victim wished to remain anonymous did you order else yes why because i believe this
04:18is something that she would have wanted me to do as we would talk about it
04:25i think i can like hear someone and i'm really scared to get checked i swear i can press on someone
04:30and then i can like hear something up just like it was like in the attic
04:35i'm taking a call from an 80 street that could be something in the attic request please come check it out
04:42on february 9 2022 a 24 year old single woman in summersworth new hampshire was sleeping at about 4 15
04:54a.m when she was startled awake and saw a shadowy figure in the hallway outside of her bedroom
05:02this sounds silly but i like thought it was like a ghost and then i was like that's not possible
05:09took me a minute to wake up the victim in this case was a young 24 year old single mother of a
05:16three-year-old she was living with her mother in summersworth at the time of the incident
05:20she went into her mother's room and told her that she thought someone was lurking in their house
05:28dispatch center received a 911 call stating that there was someone in their attic i walked down
05:35the hill to get an easterly view of the house and at that point i saw somebody crawling across the roof
05:40i immediately went upstairs um to the attic there's a window in the attic that goes out to that flat part
05:46of the roof i announced myself as a somersworth police officer i ordered him to come off of the
05:52roof i detained him at that point once he was placed into custody and subsequently arrested
05:59it was learned through his pennsylvania driver's license that his name is mauricio damien guerrero
06:06initially mr guerrero informs officers that he was only there for two hours at the time of when he
06:14was arrested but good thing about modern technology is it leaves a good trail of evidence upon further
06:23investigating mr guerrero's phone we discovered that he had actually come and gone several times over the
06:30course of the previous few days one of which time he had purchased food and went up to the attic
06:38look how far he went he was eating food and urinating in a cup in someone's attic and going in and out while they're
06:47sleeping it was discovered through his phone that he had also walked around the house photographing the
06:54residents and then he steals some personal clothing items of the victim he does take some of her blinds
07:01her underwear some photographs of her that were around the house the underwear was found in his
07:07truck so we knew that it couldn't be the last break-in right because he was caught in the house
07:11mauricio tells the police yes i was there but i have a relationship with this woman i decided to go back
07:17in to her house to make her happy again that i made it in or something because something like a
07:24fantasy that she would want me to do sometimes i believe it was just a game of war mauricio guerrero
07:31and the alleged victim then 24 first met in early october 2021 on onlyfans a paid for social media
07:39platform largely used for adult content guerrero had paid to subscribe to the alleged victim's channel to
07:47gain access to sexually explicit photos and videos of her tell this remember when you made contact so
07:56on october 8th around 11 at night she was on live broadcast on onlyfans you were subscribing to her only
08:08fans baby is that what it worked yes only fans is a bit different than prostitution and only fans
08:15creator is still selling sex in a way but at the same time there's a relational component uh there's
08:22this idea that the customer is buying the sentimental part of a romantic relationship the communication part
08:33without the physical sexual component mauricio at the time that he met the victim was living in
08:40one of the suburbs in pennsylvania working in his family's mexican restaurant we didn't graduate from
08:47high school kind of a loner and didn't have a relationship prior to the one that he created with
08:53the victim and this is a man with no criminal record at all and who do you live with my mom and my son
09:01his father in the picture at all no was only fans your total source of income yes after a month guerrero
09:10and the alleged victim began communicating outside the only fans site he's regularly making payments to
09:17her page but ultimately they exchange information and she gives him her real name she gives him her phone
09:26number i first gave her my number and then she texted me on my message they started communicating
09:35frequently and the boundaries between them appeared to get a little bit blurred tell us how
09:41it developed november into a relationship that's been more than subscribe we would face time mostly
09:49instead of every once in a while be every single day and texting at the same time and we would talk
09:55about things what we liked what we like by each other and what would she like to do what was her like
10:03plans her goals her future what were mine how did he treat you good he made me feel special i guess
10:12how would you describe the nature of these messages friendly but also like sexual
10:22marisa when the victim exchanged a lot of explicit images and videos there was exchanges in both
10:28directions as one might expect in a romantic relationship that was intense or heated and she
10:35has various needs that were expressed for example she wanted a television set and a portable fireplace she
10:43provides the address of where to mail these items and he mails them to her mauricio ends up giving the
10:50victim 700 worth of gifts being a tv a portable fireplace and lingerie as a result of their relationship but
10:59looking at it from the outside you can clearly see that this victim was clearly using mauricio for his
11:05money she still continued to say things like i love you and for sin we would face him again still a lot of
11:14times i don't remember the checks i said but i would say i let him on their level of contact continued to
11:22increase throughout december and perhaps they were playing a little game like a little bit of role-playing game
11:30she said she wanted to be obsessed with her to be a stalker that she liked it she talked about that
11:40she wanted she wanted me to she wanted me to rape her did you were you serious when you said something
11:47like that no that was an exaggeration yes ricio was not a sophisticated player and he was in a high
11:58stakes game involving someone who was literally making a living from extracting resources from
12:04people like him this leaves a dangerous area where especially immature men don't really keep up with
12:11the score she talked about we could meet up i'll come up to new hampshire she said i want someone to stop me
12:20she had told me she would be happy if i was up there this wasn't something that was wanted
12:26this was a pattern of behavior that was escalating
12:32you were testified before you're very successful i'm not asked if you voice up if you tell the uh
12:42jury where you're from
12:43i'm from benzel in pia benzel in pennsylvania
12:58maricio guerrero's on trial for multiple counts of burglary and invasion of privacy
13:03after breaking into the new hampshire home of an only fans content creator on february 7 2022
13:11charges that carry a possible 15-year sentence and the potential of becoming a registered sex
13:18offender prior to this incident guerrero had visited the alleged victim several times earlier
13:24in december 2021 while she was living in a nearby apartment complex the defense believes if guerrero
13:31tells the jury about the nature of these visits that they'll see a pattern of behavior from the
13:37alleged victim that will explain why guerrero would have thought they were role-playing at the time of
13:43his arrest how did you discuss reading up um well she talked about it a lot on facetime and text messages
13:56as well so i said it was a good time and december 7th i decided to park
14:04in her apartment complex i was nervous to go up there to knock on the door as far as you
14:11want to work with that she wants you to come up i believed that she wanted wanting to come up now
14:16that's interesting you thought why do you think she wanted to come up because we talked about
14:21many up about me coming up and well also between that we talked about having intercourse with julia
14:33he decides he wants to take this 350-mile trip which takes over five hours to get there
14:40he wanted to surprise her he didn't know about whether or not she would be happy to see him
14:45i didn't know you were coming or was it a surprise it was going to be surprised probably text her but i
14:53was nervous to text her or tell her because i believe she would been disappointed in seeing me
15:00or sling her
15:05i i believe she was too good enough for me that i wasn't good enough for her
15:12i know i'm not an attractive person i'm not someone really attractive but she was giving me
15:19attention like no one else did that time you were having a second thought didn't you it was
15:26he had been kind of slumped down in the seat hiding from her the victim came home and noticed him
15:32there she's texting me that she saw a person in the truck in a gray truck she asked me if it was me or not
15:39and i told her that it was me she told me that it wasn't okay to do that and she told me that i had to
15:51leave sometime later when he was still making the trip back to pennsylvania she told him that she wished
15:59that he didn't leave he was rejected but then he's receiving all these messages afterwards saying that
16:05what he did what he did was exciting and enticing she would tell me that she missed me that it was
16:12hot for me to do that hot for you to come up on the numbers for each brother that was hot yes she told me
16:19that she missed me and she wished that she could have invited me up this is all on the seven of the
16:26one yes and she decided still texting me around that time when we got home asking me how was the drive
16:34back home and everything mauricio was getting a lot of mixed messages and appeared to be a bit confused
16:41about the boundaries of that relationship and then on december 22 2021 mauricio drives up to new hampshire
16:50again i texted her that i was in dover and that i was outside and how did that go um she gives me the code
17:01to enter her apartment you know the code okay and so i go upstairs and knock on her door and she opens it
17:10she just was wearing a gray robe and nothing underneath what happened when she was it well first she started to
17:20to take off her robe slowly and then she told me to take my belt how did he know we had it into course
17:30you considered her girlfriend at that point she was my girlfriend i thought she was that she would
17:36wanted us to be together how did she respond she said that was okay what did she say to you after
17:43you met me she said she liked it and um did you believe that yes he really did view it as a place
17:52we had a future it just felt real to me that she would want us to be together and that she was okay
17:59with me doing these things had you brought anything up to her that point aside from the gifts of the set
18:06i had given her flowers when i met her in december 27th i had also before that on december 7th i had
18:12given her money to fix the car because the windshield was broken i remember bringing a couple toys
18:20for the child was a truck and two action figures did you think it was very typical i i believe so did you
18:27have a lot of experience dating at that point i had never been the one before he starts having these
18:34intimate conversations and knowing so much information about this victim this woman's life
18:39having contact with her son having her say that she loves him so in his mind yes it was reasonable
18:47for him to believe that there was some type of relationship with this victim and that it was
18:53genuine after the sexual encounter in new hampshire the victim rejected mauricio but then wanted him
19:01back in her life mauricio rejected the victim but then wanted her back they blocked each other on
19:07various social media apps from time to time but the victim ultimately kept trying to draw mauricio back in
19:17at some point it looks like people walk on each other yes she would always block me first she would
19:26say at first i'm blocking you and stop talking to me to the next next time we're talking to why
19:33are you answering please text me back it was back in relationship yeah i still believe that we were
19:39going back to into relationship that we were still something so you thought that when jenny was
19:44talking to you and um you were taking the same games yes knowing those times she would ask me to come up
19:53again multiple times after having this tumultuous period of time with mauricio the victim had some
20:01changes in her life she moved from an apartment in dover to her mother's house in summersworth new hampshire
20:09even though the victim had sent mixed messages to mauricio before about visiting her apartment she
20:15was more clear about her mother's house in summersworth she was always very adamant that he cannot come to
20:22her mother's house that was something that she was pretty clear about despite being warned that's
20:28exactly what mauricio did on february 7 2022
20:36stalking is when someone doesn't know when you're there you're just observing them and i believe that
20:44what you would want me to do not to tell her i decided to walk in through the back door of the house
20:51on february 7 2022 mauricio guerrero made yet another unannounced trip to see the alleged victim
20:59only this time he drove to her mother's house where she had explicitly told him not to come for the
21:06next two days he would spend time in the house's attic without her knowledge but will the lines between
21:13reality and fantasy make it difficult for the jury to determine which side of the law guerrero's on
21:19and will his testimony ultimately help or hurt him the issue with her having sex with him is
21:27number one with the only fan subscription you're not supposed to have any outside contact and they
21:33met in person which is one of the biggest violations but also too it complicates the case
21:39legally because it gives rise to the issue of consent could you have consented or led him
21:46to believe that he had permission to be inside of your house yes she did not know it was coming
21:58did you go in the house yes wow because i believe it's something she would wanted me to do
22:06because we would talk about it can you tell us what happened on the gate you spent the night in the attic
22:12i've been spending the night in the attic i was still my ambnb and she was texting me she had told me
22:22she would be happy if i was up there that she would be really happy if i was there and i told her i was
22:31she told me to park almost right in front of her house and she came to my truck and she just came out
22:40again in a row she seemed happy to you um yes she did she didn't really happy she she did more than that
22:50she started to give me oil how long um a couple minutes sir and then she stopped and i was swam with
23:02that and we talked for a bit we talked about should i should go home that i couldn't be there but i don't
23:11know to take it as to leave or still stay because i was still and thought of hers telling me to come
23:19back again later on or saying no she missed me or she would gangrene me for leaving so i didn't know
23:25what to do that one too it would have been because it was always an hour after i left she would have
23:32texted me back to come back to see her mauricio's inexperienced socially awkward perspective could see
23:40this as she wanted this fantasy and he could have been the hero by fulfilling the fantasy for her
23:47and um how did she get you sitting with sex so i'll tell you that what did you do i decided to go back
23:53in to your house and how did you do that i had also been using the back door again what was your
24:00intent my intentions to make her happy again that i made it in or something because it's something
24:07like a fantasy that she would want me to do sometimes was she asleep
24:15she was what did you do i believe it was just a game of ours that she wanted to do and so i decided to
24:25take a picture of her shine
24:33when you say a game you played you actually had received pictures
24:37before right then yes what happened after you took the picture
24:41i went to leave and then i heard someone call out how she did like a loud gasp i was scared and so
24:52i went up to the attic and i don't to do i wanted to leave i heard someone say cops and so i wanted to
25:04leave it to leave and it's possible after this this will be a problem i'm not i'm ashamed i think that he
25:12did help himself during his testimony i think that the jury could look at somebody like this and think
25:17he really had no clue about what he was getting into sorry i'm scared sorry
25:31with a he said she said story the defense lays out a pattern of behavior by the alleged victim
25:37that could have led mauricio guerrero into believing he was only fulfilling her role play fantasies
25:44but the prosecutor presents a very different picture did you know about the fantastic in a video of
25:51your retirement no did you ever get them permission no
26:03mauricio guerrero who's 22 years old is facing up to 15 years in prison for felony burglary
26:10an invasion of privacy guerrero claims the alleged victim wanted a role-play stalker and invited
26:16guerrero to break into her house but was his testimony enough so talk about the uh second he came
26:24into your apartment he came out to my apartment we had sex and he left is there a reason why
26:32uh he didn't stay um i didn't want him to so uh can you tell me what exactly um it told
26:40marissa all about what you wanted he said something like i want you to be obsessed with me and do all
26:45this stuff yeah there were definitely some weird texts and stuff i want you to be obsessed with me
26:50in all this stuff but i didn't mean it i want to specifically talk about uh the night he was
26:57arrested did he let you know that he could die uh no when he got there were you surprised that he was
27:05there yes do you meet with him in person uh yeah i think he texted me or we were on the phone i don't
27:13know and he said he was here and i kind of thought that was just like whatever i'm just gonna see this
27:22kid and then i went out to his car when you were in the truck with him what did you guys do i
27:34went down on him for like five seconds and then i was really grossed out and realized what i was
27:43doing and stopped i think i said do not come back to my mom's house was there anything what your
27:51mom's house was particular that would want him to come to i mean it was my mom's house like i wouldn't
27:57just invite a guy over to my mom's house she went out to his truck to do that you know she didn't invite
28:05him into her warm home in february to engage in conceptual sexual activity which we were trying to
28:12point out shows that she had wanted him to come in her house like that would have been the the
28:16time to invite him in during that time frame would you ever say that you were in a relationship
28:24uh no do you think that he believed you were in a relationship uh yeah why um just the way he acted
28:35and what did you go about to team he's compliment i just felt guilty he seemed
28:43kind of sad yes i mean i probably led him on
28:53it's just kind of like what you do on that site i was a prosecutor for 16 years and there are no angels
29:0199 of the time when you're doing these cases the prosecutor in order to get a successful result in
29:09this case had to embrace the good facts and embrace the bad facts as well so our strategy was get that
29:18out there to have her explain it in her own words and letting the jury know hey she did encourage him
29:24to a certain extent but ultimately it doesn't make what he did to be okay
29:33when you throw a bubble on that yours sticks into the seven you were driving all night is that right
29:39yes and you had plans to break in as soon as you were getting there right
29:43not really well you came out with a girl bar didn't you
29:54yes the reason that we charged burglary is we felt that it was the cleanest charges to bring
30:01because he did enter her house so we had good evidence of that he did commit crimes while he was
30:07in her house we had good evidence of that and you also came up with a list to do this right
30:16okay we'll talk about that well the first thing on that list is go to her house right yes
30:23you also have on your list put microphones and stuff to hear her right right and so you were going to
30:32get some sort of listening device that you could listen to her yes but i didn't know how to do that at
30:43all now on that list you could put put a tracker on your car right yes but i don't know if i can even do
30:54that at all number two you want to approach the tiles specifically so you could track the car
31:02right yes just wasn't thinking straight part of having to prove this case is having to prove
31:10what he intended to do when he was in the home and so there was definitely a concern both with the
31:16the list and having found the actual tile the tracking device he went so far as to buy it and
31:23we argued that the fact that he had a tracking device showed some intent to commit a crime
31:29i want to direct your attention specifically to february next okay at some point you go into the room
31:35right right and you also lifted up the covers of her bed lifted up her bathrobe and you looked at her
31:45vagina right yes and when you lifted the covers with her robe and put your phone initially in her legs
31:56to zoom in and take the video to the vagina you do not have permission to do that either did you
32:01she'll be okay with that she'll be okay with it yes i don't know what else to say about that
32:11the video is very brief it just basically shows female genitalia like between the legs you can only
32:19see the upper parts of the thigh and kind of zooms in so we charged based on that evidence violation of privacy
32:34marissa you keep talking about this stuff but there's nowhere in these messages that she ever says
32:40and she wants to do her saw her face there there's not but told me multiple times
32:47maricio guerreros facing felony burglary and invasion of privacy charges
32:52that carry a possible 15-year sentence despite guerreros claim that he was manipulated by an
32:59only fans creator into carrying out acts he thought she would want the prosecution has laid out some
33:05damning evidence against him a to-do list including tracking and listening in on the victim and a
33:12video recording of her genitals but will the jury be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that he acted
33:18with criminal intent she tried to end things around february 1st that right yes and at this point that
33:29you thought she wanted you to break into her house yes will you agree with me that those messages
33:35were plucked that you weren't actually together at that point
33:39it wasn't what he painted it as somebody that's in a relationship with somebody who was trying to
33:50please them by abiding by the stocking game or something that she wanted from him but instead
33:57this is an escalation he's upset because he's not speaking to her right now and it's just a way to be
34:02close to her and to be near her but isn't it true that you really didn't actually believe that she
34:08wanted you there no i did believe she wanted you there but i just don't know what she wanted from me
34:19a woman can play with a boy's heart she can lead him on but that doesn't make it okay for him to
34:23break into her house without her permission well her mom's permission for that matter i think people
34:28often forget the mom whose house it was she's certainly a victim in this too and it doesn't
34:34make it okay for him to do what he did she had texted me that she saw someone in the doorway around
34:43four in the morning and um then she came into my room and uh we heard something and we went into her
34:55room where my grandson was sleeping because i was scared that any point that you give you yourself
35:03defendant permission to be never never never never never
35:11having the victim's mother testify at this trial was a game changer for the prosecutor because it gave this
35:20case a clean and unknowing victim so she was victimized in the sense of that her privacy and that security
35:32that you feel in your home was violated and will be forever violated as a result of a man that she never
35:40met and never spoke to breaking into the home this week no question that we're still in the house no
35:50question also no question that um to mom should have no idea that anything is going on so really
35:55what this comes down to what was intent is you know the duration is bizarre it's fantastic it's toxic
36:03she cultivated this thought this is part of the fantasy that they were playing together and again
36:09like i said the problem is he doesn't know that he's actually a customer she is not the perfect victim
36:15certainly and i'm not here to make excuses for the things that she did we're trying to get you to
36:19like her because the thing is you do not have to like her the law protects everyone even the people we don't like
36:27she knows that he's a gay if she works she works in like a problem what she did whatever she did she
36:36did not observe what happened to her her mother and son especially not certain happened to that
36:42i think mauricio was really just trying to be a good partner his first experience unfortunately
36:49was with someone who was intent on manipulating him you don't have to like her you don't have to love
36:55her you don't have to respect her the question is did mauricio violate the law did he commit burglary
37:02did he commit criminal trespass
37:11she said i want someone to stalk me for five days the jury has heard testimony from over a dozen witnesses
37:18including the defendant himself mauricio guerrero who's accused of felony burglary
37:23an invasion of privacy has guerrero been able to convince the jury that he didn't think he was
37:29doing anything wrong if he hasn't he might have to register as a sex offender for his adult life
37:37she wants to have him obsessed with her she wants him to follow she says these things she admitted or
37:44will the jury side with the prosecution that mauricio guerrero took things way too far and committed a crime
37:51what she did was not correct the defendant was
37:59mr poor person it is uh it's my understanding that the jury has reached unanimous verdicts on
38:05all of the charges before is that correct it's correct
38:07how does the jury find the defendant guilty or not guilty
38:21the jury returns a split verdict but what is still clearly a victory for prosecutors finding
38:49guerrero guilty on two of the four burglary counts two counts of criminal trespass and one
38:56count of invasion of privacy the verdict shows that you can be an only fans content creator but also that
39:03it wasn't okay what he did i think specifically the felony was was devastating to mauricio a young
39:12man with no criminal record uh someone who does not really seem violent doesn't seem dangerous
39:19their verdict is one that is a compromised verdict it still doesn't change the exposure that mauricio
39:26has because being found guilty of one of the burglaries he was still exposed to a maximum
39:33sentence of 15 years on july 19 2023 mauricio guerrero returns to the courtroom to receive his sentence
39:43but first he makes a statement to the court first i'm going to say that i'm sorry to open
39:49the court and go to the court and it goes and it's getting lots of it everything i bet to god i bet to
40:02anyone for me to get forgiveness see what i do not do and i'm disgusted about myself and when you're talking
40:11about a sentence remember for the judge he has to consider deterrence accountability does the
40:18defendant show remorse acknowledging what he did was wrong and that he wouldn't do it again
40:24so i have decided upon what i believe to be an appropriate sentence in this case this case does
40:30obviously involve extremely unique circumstances you are sentenced to the house of correction for
40:38a period of 12 months with respect to the state's request that i qualify mr guerrero
40:45as qualifying for the sex offender registration i do not find by clear and convincing evidence
40:53that the offenses here were driven by a sexual compulsion and therefore he will not be required
40:59to register as a sex offender we were disappointed about the amount of time that he got certainly we
41:05had asked for more i think i was more so disappointed with the decision not to have
41:11him register as a sex offender while many may say that it's lenient it's still one year where he
41:18will be in jail for a person that has no criminal record there's a different human component that
41:26sits on top of this case which is phenomenally more complex that was overlooked and it was the wrong
41:32verdict i think this was perhaps to lawmakers an opportunity to add more policy about setting
41:39boundaries in certain business relationships holding craters responsible when they invite people to
41:46commit what would later be called crimes it's just the wild west right now and you have people being
41:51exploited left and right people need to be very careful of the people that they they meet online
41:58i think people just need to have that heightened awareness um that people are really capable of
42:03anything defendants are never forced to take the stand but that decision is likely the biggest one
42:18one they'll ever make for taking the stand i'm dan aprons
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