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00:00We get to open for Iron Maiden and Metallica. I feel I need a time machine and go back to high
00:04school and go, haha, to someone. It just says something about me being a jerk, I guess.
00:09Rock, metal, frog, and everything in between. Welcome to this episode of Talkin' Rock with
00:16Meltdown. Don't forget to follow the audio-only Talkin' Rock podcast on all podcast platforms.
00:21And now, it's time for today's conversation. Here's Meltdown.
00:25Johannes, good to see you, man. How are you?
00:27I'm doing well, thank you. I've been doing a few interviews before this one, and the
00:34dogs decided to bark between the interviews and not during so far, so it's a good day.
00:39You know, I'm a huge dog fan, so how many dogs do you have?
00:43We have two dogs. I have two chihuahuas, a long-coat boy. His name is Vincent Van Dog,
00:50as people name their dogs. And then we have the short-coat one-year-old is Lilith.
00:57Lilith, okay.
00:58I suspect that she's part of Cats, though.
01:00Yeah, I think I've heard of the Vincent Van Dog before. I may have seen it in an interview or
01:05something somewhere before.
01:07Yeah. Oh, there you go. I jinxed it.
01:10Ah, that's all right. It's all good. Let them be part of it as well. So, hey, you're coming here
01:14to Detroit, of course, at the Fillmore on the 20th of November, but before that, are you releasing
01:19the new record before that?
01:22Yeah. Yes, we are. And I know the date. They just don't let me tell you yet the date. They
01:28have a whole plan for it, but I assure you, it's an excellent date.
01:32Oh, it's an excellent date.
01:34Oh, it's a good date. Okay.
01:35It's a very good date. I saw the date and went, wow, that's a good date.
01:38All right. Now you got my brain working. So is the record finished?
01:46Everything about how it sounds is finished, and it sounds amazing. And now we're getting
01:52very close to have everything that looks like an album to look like an album as well. So
01:59we're close and we're in a hurry. So that's good.
02:03Okay. Yeah. Because I know not only are you guys, you know, obviously Sonic, but
02:08you're also visual. And I was thinking about this. I was just telling somebody today, the
02:11first time I saw you guys in 2017, and I was like mesmerized. And I've seen you guys every
02:16time since you've come through town and you've played everywhere. But so, yeah, the visual
02:20part has to come together too, I suppose.
02:24Yeah, absolutely. At this point, it's just what makes Avatar, Avatar, I guess, that we think
02:31about and enjoy thinking about everything and how it comes together, you know?
02:36Mm-hmm. So, yeah.
02:39So the new video, obviously, is really cool as well, the Captain Goat video. Talk about
02:43that.
02:43Thank you. Well, it's all fed out of the song, right? Starting with the song, Tim came up
02:55with the guitars, right? And I hear it. And sometimes when a song is really, really good,
03:01it becomes, you get so, like, so strong visual, visual reaction to it, that it feels like
03:10hallucinating. And this was one of those that just became very intuitively written with all
03:17the water and the goats on the water and the spiritual journey through the dark and all
03:23that is in there. It just grew very organically through just feeling the music. And that's
03:33continued into making the music video. Then, of course, those songwriters' hallucinations I get,
03:41if you turn those into a music video, it's often very, very, very, very, very, very expensive.
03:46But we found ways to have it make sense and tie together to be less abstract with this journey
03:53through the underworld, very much borrowed from Greek mythology. Of course, having a goat there
04:03is, of course, from a more left-handed path through spirituality, but still borrowed from Greek
04:10mythology, including, of course, Hendrik being an incredibly sexy siren. And then you have Norse
04:21mythology, with Jonas being tied to cliffs like Loki. And Tim is Neken, which I don't know how to
04:31translate to English, but it's also very Scandinavian folklore, probably other places in Europe, too.
04:38And John is something that would be basically a draugr, a lyktkubbe, something like that.
04:45So borrowing from these different paths, but it becomes this, you know, all old mythologies have
04:52this, well, you have odysseps when it comes to Greek mythology again. But, you know, this travel
04:58where they meet the strange creatures, the cyclops and fight skeletons and whatnot. So it borrows
05:04from that a very mythological treatment. And it was fun. And especially the singing on the water
05:10part, which is done in a like a swimming pool that they use for it was nice and warm because it was
05:18mainly used for rehab purposes in the daytime. And it's a good thing that my the face paint covers how
05:28painful it got towards the end. And after a few, you know, once I've been in there for a few hours.
05:36Uh, you can still if you pay attention towards the end of the video, you see, I can't really open my
05:41eyes as much anymore. So this is kind of swollen shot, but the redness is covered by the paint. So
05:47that was good. Yeah, I was wondering how the paint actually stayed on. But yeah, you said that lipstick,
05:52that's a trick. Okay, I gotcha. You said it's a negotiation with the heart state of being
05:57and finding acceptance as you're as you navigate the ruthless darkness of life. So a positive uplifting
06:03song from Avatar. Well, we always I mean, that's the weird twilight zone in which Avatar exists,
06:12right that we are Avatar as far as a heavy metal band, we're really intend to be first and foremost,
06:20a good time, right. But at the same time, the writing comes from the whole concept of finding dark
06:28rooms in your soul in your brain in your mind that and open the doors into those forbidden places
06:35and kind of air it out. And hopefully, by keep on doing this and try to force yourself
06:42to be honest with who you are and where you're at with each album, maybe get closer and closer to
06:47some kind of sense of truth. And and that side of it, yeah, it's a dark endeavor. But then also believe
06:56I don't know, I believe it's healthy. And I think it's just a
07:03what do I think? Sometimes I talk and I think one second behind and I have agreed with myself so
07:10far. So it's not a problem yet. But I'm trying to put a nice bow on top of this. It's a no, I think
07:17yeah, it's a this this that duality of what Avatar is as a band, you know, we're all gonna die. Let's
07:23disco. Yeah, buddy. So so this record, was this the first single? I mean, I mean, for this song, was this
07:31the one that you guys wanted to pick as the first one? Or did it just kind of show itself as the first
07:36one? And how does this relate to the rest of the record? And it relates poorly to the whole album
07:44because Avatar doesn't write the same song twice. And so that's by design. But it just shows that a
07:52lot of things are different this time as they should be and as they always are.
07:55How we choose? Well, it kind of reveals itself over time. You just kind of circle back to people in the
08:06demo stage of things while writing and doing the pre productions, what you get excited about then,
08:11and already at that stage, there was a lot of excitement about this song, as a potential single
08:18as a standout track in that kind of way. And that, you know, consistent balance, we always,
08:25obviously, we try to only put good songs on an album. And they're all there for a reason. And then it's
08:31just, it's just a fact of life that some of them are good in a more direct way, I guess. And this,
08:39I think is a very direct song. And people, you know, the whatever felt people felt that the demo
08:45stage of the song comes back when rehearsing it, and it comes alive, we really start playing it
08:51together, you know, real drums and everything in the room. Because while writing, we use a lot of
08:56drum machines, you can just boom, boom, boom, everybody can sit and do ideas in their own little
09:01corner. So it's, so it's, therefore, rehearsing is the first time you get to really feel what it's
09:09feel like being people playing this song before entering the studio and doing it properly there.
09:13And in each and every step of this, there's been something, just one of those songs that were
09:17something to it. And I, again, I think it stands out in what we usually do. But at the same time,
09:24built on building blocks that is part of the way we do our heavy metal, right?
09:29Yeah, I can't wait to hear the record. So you can't tell us the date it's going to be released.
09:34Can you tell us the title of the album or no? Or not yet?
09:38Chan is a big word. I mean, there's nothing technically stuff, there's no gun to my head,
09:44but they would be pissy. But it's a beautiful title. It really ties it together. Invokes mystique
09:51and tempting you to break taboos. It lures you into a forbidden place because you see
09:59forbid a little light in the dark there somewhere in the meadow between the trees.
10:04And that is what the title is all about. And when you see the title, you're going to go like,
10:09ah. All right, now it all makes sense.
10:12You know, now you know everything except the title, basically.
10:16And isn't that just as good? Yeah, that's great.
10:18So is this record going to be out by the time you do shows with Metallica and Maiden?
10:23Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, not Iron Maiden, because that's this year.
10:26Okay. But Metallica is next year. So yeah, it will be old news.
10:30Metallica? If we talk, yeah.
10:32Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, that's exciting.
10:35Yeah, but it's still within the same 12-month period we get to open for Iron Maiden and Metallica.
10:41I feel I need a time machine and go back to high school and go, haha, to someone.
10:45But at the same time, most people were just really nice and cool in high school and I had a great time.
10:52And people who have reached out have been very proud and supportive and, you know, and nice.
10:58So it just says something about me being a jerk, I guess.
11:02But no, but it is an incredible thing.
11:06It's just a matter of we have tons of different influences from different stages of lives as people
11:11in bands do, you know. But all that being said, in the most real, practical,
11:21literal meaning of the words, I don't think there would be an avatar without Metallica.
11:27Because John went skiing when he was 12 and broke a leg and he was bedridden and his mom bought him
11:33some CDs. John became a Metallica fan and therefore he wanted to start a band and be a drummer.
11:40And that's that was what's fueled him when meeting Jonas and and that he started a band is that
11:49that spark that initiative that the band that I then would join one year later, basically,
11:55we're all still kids at that point. But that all that was a band for me to join that they named Avatar
12:02that had rehearsed like twice and fired three singers or whatever, before I joined wouldn't
12:10exist without Metallica impossible to imagine. So so there we are, right? We there there's no
12:17so it's a lot of you get a lot of those if you're lucky, and we are lucky, you get a bunch of those
12:22moments where you feel certain things come full circle. And where the fan and artists within you get
12:29to meet and get to do a cool thing together. And Metallica, it's hard for me to think of things
12:37that will top that, you know, then from the personal meaning to the sheer size of it all,
12:44you know, certain feeling of anointment. So I'm making sure because once reaching those shows,
12:49I feel like it's my job to go well, if those guys, I'm here to prove a kick ass and it's bad,
12:54well, you know, for 45 minutes or whatever. So I'm living with all this gratitude and humbleness now.
13:04And we'll do so until then you have to shake that off and just like, let that moment on stage be your
13:09moment. And then which, you know, which is tricky with those kind of bands, because they have a round
13:16stage shape like it's such a Metallica stage like this is my stage not really though damn it guys,
13:24you know, was the same way open. So we're doing our maiden now in July around Europe,
13:29right. But with that was also our first trip to Brazil was opening for them a few times,
13:35which is a very good way to go to a country for the first time.
13:38Yeah, usually you travel in a van if you're lucky. So so this was a good start. And also there was,
13:48you know, hadn't been that nervous about going on stage since we were the kids that were also,
13:55you know, 15, 16 year old babies who started this band and hadn't felt those kind of nerves
14:04since then. But then once the stage shaking that off trying to claim ownership, yeah,
14:09but this is my time and you'll go around. Oh, that's Eddie. Oh, that's so cool.
14:14And because it's all already all their stuff, the little stairs, the little, you know, the little
14:19things written on the floor, the set list is all there. Oh, sweet, they're doing that one, you know.
14:25So it's a challenge, you know, to not, I'm gonna enjoy it as a fan. I also need to try to
14:32be competitive about it or, you know, play some kind of Jedi mind tricks with myself to overcome
14:38it to, to also feel that once we're there, that we actually deserve being there.
14:45Well, I told you that the first time I saw you guys play, which was at St. Andrew's Hall with
14:48about, I don't know, maybe 800 to 1000 people, I was like mesmerized right away. And then you guys
14:53played Riff Fest for us a few years ago. And I'm watching from the crowd. And I think there was a
14:59lot of people there that may not have known who you guys were. Even my son and his buddy were with
15:03me and they were like in their late teens at the time. And, and, and like people like,
15:08I think people really dug it. My, my son, my buddies, or my son's friend said, he goes,
15:13these guys are great, or, you know, something along those lines, like, like you guys
15:16opened up eyes to your band. Well, that's nice. And thank you for giving us that opportunity for that
15:23matter. Yeah, I mean, I think what we do, when it connects with people, it seems to connect deeply.
15:33I don't, and maybe it's just I'm also caught in my bubble, right? But I still have an impression
15:39that there aren't many casual avatar fans. You're either in or out. And I'm okay with that, you know,
15:46like, because when we do music, when we go on stage, it's certainly with the idea that we are 50%
15:55of the show, and something is created between us and the audience. And that is avatar. And same in
16:01the studio. Yeah, we write about what we want to write about, we do the music we want to do. But we
16:07also bother mixing it and putting out there. So we also balance all our own ambitions and ideas and
16:15egos with the idea that there is some there's a receiver for this, right? So there's all this all
16:20about communication and articulation. All that being said, it's also clear, we're not making
16:28top 40 in music either, right? So we're only interested in taking this band as far as we can
16:35on our terms, you know, whatever that might mean at any given time, changes because we change. But
16:44whatever our terms are at the moment, we do it on those terms.
16:50I had a point with this. I swear I did. I was just grateful for people, you know,
16:57when they dig it that they seem to dig it so deeply that that seems to be the reward
17:02of being so hard to work with as avatar is that when it's right, it's right.
17:08I've never heard you guys are hard to work with. Jay Rustin's a friend of mine. He said that,
17:12he said, first of all, he said, uh, well, he talked a little bit about the, um, he texted me
17:15about the, the, the, uh, the choir you guys use for Captain. So tell me about that.
17:22Yeah. Dresden's Bergsteiger Chor. Now there are, there's a bunch of things on the, on the album,
17:28including a choir that you're just some parts and stuff that require that we want to do more
17:34orchestrated things, um, on a couple of songs. So there are, you know, you got your little,
17:39your cellos and double basses and violins and violas. You got your brass section and you got a
17:45choir, uh, for a few things. And it was also just because we choir arrangements, we have done plenty
17:52of 30 years. Right. Um, but usually we do the Freddie Mercury version of it. We layer me 16 times,
18:0332 times where may or may not, depending on the circumstances, add Tim and Hendrik and do the same
18:08with them. And it's great and it works. Uh, and that sounds cool. Um, but it's hard to fake the,
18:17a room of human beings, a room of flesh making sounds together, you know, it's first by the same
18:24logic that you want the drummer and bass player to do their takes together or whatever stuff that we
18:30like to do like that. So if that was finally time to really think ahead, you know, make sure that
18:37there's sheet music for it and bring in outside choir and they were cool cats. You know, it's,
18:43it's, it's funny cause Tristen where we, we recorded right in side of Tristen in this castle in
18:50uh, which was also is where we did feathers and flesh. And so this is old East Germany.
18:58Um, so, you know, you got between the decades, insane amounts of history and things in a part of
19:04the world like that. And this choir is older than, older than, uh, the GDR, I guess you say in English,
19:12right. It's older than the third Reich it's, you know, it's, it survived through all these
19:18different definitions of what Germany is up until this day. So already there, they carry so much
19:23history. And what did it say? Like when they, yeah, they had like, when the choir turned 75,
19:32yeah, they had, they had members in the choir, not that they were gone while, when we met them,
19:37but had, that had sung in the same choir for 75 years, you know, so he started his, I think that
19:44that person's dad was one of the founders. So he joined when he was 14 and retired from the choir
19:50at the age of 89. So, you know, so that's cool. And, uh, they focus specifically on like drinking songs
20:00and mountaineering songs and drinking mountaineering songs. Um, so it's a total cool vibe. And we went out
20:07with them, um, in central place, there was this, well, pub, uh, beer hall. That was very,
20:16it was very, the Las Vegas version of a German pub with little carousels to drink in and, and
20:22ridiculously big beer glasses, uh, and the drawings on the wall and everything like really that, but in the
20:28most awesome way. And they sat around this round King Arthur, um, size round table and, you know,
20:35went through their whole, uh, repertoire for us, including some mountaineering songs in Swedish.
20:41So they don't discriminate with language or origins of the songs as long as it's about mountains.
20:46And yeah, so we taught them some semi satanic spiritual journeys, sea shanties and songs about
20:52dying. Uh, and they sang those and it was cool. And, uh, you know, it's kind of funny you mentioned
20:58the drinking and stuff. She got the drinking, he got the guy, the boat, you know, the, the, the goat,
21:01captain goat and the whole thing. It's almost got a little bit of an, an, uh, uh, a monomarth vibe.
21:07Yeah. I mean, it's hard. Uh, someone wrote in a comment section of the video, like there's gotta
21:12be a, you know, the rowing thing in the mosh pit on this song. And I'm sure why not? Uh, I mean,
21:19this song in particular, I guess I have way too little double kick drum to be a proper
21:24Amin Amarth song, I think, but yeah, you know, it's, uh, it's not the, the, the, like I said,
21:32the video, it touches on Norse mythology. So there's that. And, but if in Scandinavia between
21:39Amin Amarth and enslaved and Bathory and Ross unleashed, right. Uh, there's so many bands that in
21:47one way or another touch on Vikings properly in a way that we don't really do. Right. But, um,
21:54just a sense of water. I, I don't know if it's lack of imagination or just, uh, because I always,
22:01I grew up next to it, but I keep coming back to water a lot in, in the writing. It means so many,
22:09you know, you can drown in it, you can drink in it. So it's life, it's death. I made this,
22:13so maybe it's just, just a low hanging fruit as a writer, or I keep going there because you kept
22:19staring down into, into it as a kid, you know, I swim around in it. So, but for whatever reason,
22:26there's a water, lots of water without tar. Yeah. Jay said that, uh, he was kind of, he was impressed
22:32also. He thought it was pretty wild how you would talk back and forth to some of these guys. Cause
22:36you, you're like fluent in five different languages. He said, uh, fluent in three. Okay. But here's the
22:41thing. I don't count them, those three, because, um, cause the other two, I, I, when I tried to
22:48learn the other two, I realized how similar it really is. So, so I grew up in Sweden with a German
22:54mother and a modem, uh, and, uh, TNT, WCW Nitro in the nineties. So between those things, uh, English,
23:03German, and Swedish, but those are all Germanic languages. So it's pretty close to one another.
23:09And now living in Finland, I did take one Finnish class and picked up a thing or two, but far from
23:15fluent. And that is just such a different beast altogether. And then I've been trying from time
23:21to time to get better at Italian as well, because my wife and my in-laws and all that, and also there,
23:27you could tell, ah, that's also a bit further away. So, so, I mean, I would say I speak three and
23:35and, uh, three tenths of languages. Well, I've taken at least 50 classes in German on my Peloton
23:46and all I can do is probably count to three. And that's only because they're going like this half
23:49the time. So that's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's so hard for you with, it's the immersion,
23:54right? You need to, you need to be somewhere a bit and put it on the movies there. Cause that's
23:59the thing when we're kids and we learn to speak, it's everywhere. Right. And people who really pick
24:04up a language, they do it by preferably by being there. Cause that's another challenge for me
24:09learning Finnish is that, yeah, I have plenty of Finnish friends, but it's like, we would all
24:15have to commit to speak as if I was a toddler for a year and then we can have a real conversation again.
24:22And it's really tempting to just stick to English then. Cause you know, this part of the world,
24:27I mean, our English is better than yours, you know? So, so we can easily stick with it.
24:31I don't know. My, my, I think I told you about this before, but I'm friends with Nick
24:34Lindstrom, the hockey legend, and he speaks very, very good English. It seems to be the thing, right?
24:41Well, what I think is that certainly, even some people I know who struggle with English, uh,
24:46here, they kind of, they always speak, you end up speaking in that case, uh, either like
24:52heavy metal English or video game English or whatever interests you have and therefore picking
24:57up the language from. So, so, so he struggles to remember what, what is the word for a fairy
25:04in English, but then he describes, uh, his arms as serpentious as a serpent, you know?
25:12So it's like, oh, that's a lot of points in Scrabble on that one.
25:15That's it.
25:16That's it.
25:16I think we are kind of illogical in what we know and don't know many times.
25:20Hey, uh, two more things here for, and then we'll let you fly.
25:22I know you got other interviews, but, uh, one of the things that Jay said was that, uh,
25:25I guess you're got your, your, your chef, uh, became sick and you took over for that as well.
25:30You, you're a man of, of all sorts of hats.
25:33Well, we are a few in a band who enjoy cooking, but in this castle, it was just fun because they,
25:40they, so yeah, so the recording studio is in an old castle that, uh, very multi-purpose.
25:47They tried to do real groovy things with it, housing artists, having the studio, having very
25:53alternative events and all that.
25:54But for the most of the time we had, you know, it felt like it was ours for a big part of the time.
26:01And then with that proper big castle came a proper big castle kitchen, you know, frying pan
26:07was like this big and all that.
26:09So yeah, we've got a kick out of, uh, he did, uh, uh, pasta bolognese to us and I felt, okay,
26:14challenge accepted and he got sick.
26:16So I did mine and I think I won, but it was a great guy.
26:19His thing was more the, it was also like he was fermenting and pickling all kinds of things
26:25and turning any legume into a miso paste and, and having all those kinds of projects going
26:31was worth a lot of amazing stuff.
26:33But yeah, you know, it's something we, we did it also on the last album.
26:37We ended up cooking a lot for each other.
26:39And I feel like in the last few years, uh, I don't know if it's a very Swedish man kind
26:45of thing or men in general, but you know, it's, uh, cooking has become a bit of a pissing contest,
26:51uh, between men.
26:52I think we found another thing to ruin by being macho about it.
26:56So we try to out, out satisfy each other and we all got fat.
27:01Yeah, I think it was slightly more balanced on this album, but yeah, I don't know.
27:05It's something about red wine reductions when there's that huge kitchen fan that could,
27:09you know, suffocate the fire if you needed it to all, all the bells and whistles.
27:14And there was fun.
27:15Yeah.
27:15I could, I could make oatmeal.
27:16That's about it.
27:17Hey, uh, by the way, speaking of Jay, you use him in every, uh, album.
27:20Is there, is there a reason you guys just click with Jay?
27:22Is he just, uh, does he get you guys more than anybody else has, or?
27:25We promised his mom that we would, and she pays us under the table for it.
27:32No, real answer is, um, I think with Jay, I think the only real obstacle, uh, becomes the quality of the idea.
27:47Meaning that he's very, been very open minded about what kind of stuff we can put on there, put in there.
27:55I think he has such a, now he, as a producer, he's of course, most known now for working with
28:02heavy bands.
28:03Right.
28:03But as a mixer and especially I think as an engineer, he's been all over the place and
28:09gathered experiences to record all kinds of things.
28:13So everything feels possible songwriting wise.
28:16It's total, you know, you're accountable.
28:20Uh, that's not his job, but he's that important ball plank in response.
28:25It really acts as a producer.
28:27And, and, uh, so I think that has a lot to do with it.
28:33That once you really want to do something, we find a way to do it and make it sound good with him.
28:38Uh, and being able, uh, especially now, because now it's been a few years to have a, to have a,
28:46to evolve a language around what you want and don't want and figure each other out because
28:51especially with this album, I think it wasn't, you know, song, song wise, what the songs were.
28:59It was pretty evident fairly quickly when, you know, they fell into place relatively smoothly,
29:05all things considered with all the crises and breakdowns and stuff that belongs, that, that is
29:12part of it.
29:13But sound wise, mix wise, it was a bit more searching and trial and error.
29:19And we went out searching together in a way I really appreciate.
29:24We share value systems.
29:27We're all vegan.
29:28We all, all absolutely disgusting human beings in terms of locker room humor.
29:35Uh, but our, our act, what we actually think in value lines up very nicely.
29:41And, uh, so we can, you know, share a laugh and, and share anger with each other.
29:49And there's a mutual trust and respect.
29:51And also think that we, in terms of our musical language and palette,
29:56it's a, it's called Venn diagram, right?
29:59And the overlap is big, but not to a hundred percent, far from it.
30:04And I think that's healthy.
30:06So you still come from two different places and argue from two different places.
30:11And are able, we're able to argue.
30:13And then, but it's just about, because you give a crap about whatever you're doing.
30:19That's the arguments.
30:21And there's a lot of love while doing that.
30:23So, you know, all those things, you know,
30:26Well, Johan, it's always great to talk to you and touch base.
30:28I'm a big fan and I came here on the 20th of November in Detroit.
30:33The record is coming out on a beautiful day.
30:35It's got a beautiful title to it.
30:36And a captain goat is out right now.
30:38So we got, we got you all covered.
30:40Is that everything?
30:42Yeah.
30:42I just wonder if when you work in rock radio in Detroit,
30:44do you think about kiss every day?
30:47You know, it's funny.
30:47It's funny you mention that because I did play one day.
30:50I was here for, I'm going to be here for 30 years.
30:52Actually, November 20th, November 1st will be my 30th anniversary at this radio station.
30:57And one day about 10 or 12 years into my career, I played kiss Detroit rock city at the start of my show.
31:03And it was kind of like this epiphany.
31:04It was like, I'm playing Detroit rock city rock city.
31:08I already been here for like 10 years, but yeah.
31:10So sometimes I do.
31:12That's cool.
31:12Because I guess with some songs, they either are embraced by the place they're about or not.
31:17I don't know what's the status of sweet home.
31:19Alabama is in Alabama, but I guess it depends on what room you enter.
31:23But I feel it could be a total foul paw as well.
31:27Yeah, there must be.
31:28I imagine that a hipster section of the rock audience in Detroit will have a complicated relationship to that right way.
31:36It must have been absolutely forbidden at some point that it becomes ironic and fun.
31:40And then everybody's into it back again.
31:42And, you know, I think you hear you hear Detroit rock city at some of the sporting events and stuff like that in town.
31:47But a fun fact.
31:48But that makes sense.
31:49Yeah.
31:50Fun fact about sweet home Alabama.
31:51My friend Kid Rock, who's from here, owns the guitar.
31:54They wrote that song on.
31:56There you go.
31:56Yeah, you paid for that one for charity.
31:59But anyways, yeah, so I can't wait to see the band.
32:01Maybe you guys can cover Detroit Rock City here.
32:05Yeah, we were working on other kids covers at some point, but we don't really do covers.
32:08No time.
32:09I got you.
32:10Well, Johannes, thank you so much for your time.
32:12Can't wait to see you guys have a great summer.
32:13You too, man.
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