00:00People love the updated quarterbacks T-shirt.
00:03They happen to be selling like crazy.
00:05And then DJ texted me, Arande bought some.
00:08Oh, really?
00:14The T-shirt is updated.
00:16It's at horsemuffins.com or hawklovesavocadotoast.com.
00:21But it's Kyle McCord has been added to this long list.
00:25And, you know, you posted it on Instagram.
00:27And somebody had posted a reply like, hey, any team has had a long list of quarterbacks for the what's
00:37it been since Marino?
00:3827 years, something like that.
00:40I think Marino retired in 99.
00:42So he's like, you know, you could do this with any team.
00:45Any team's got quarterbacks for miles, you know, for 27 years.
00:49And I said, that's fair.
00:51The difference is they haven't had a good enough quarterback to get a playoff win in almost 30 years.
01:02Fiedler got the one, right?
01:04We talked about that yesterday.
01:05He's the only quarterback.
01:08So I would submit to you, while a lot of NFL teams have a long list of quarterbacks who have
01:14started a game in the last 27 years,
01:19none, none, none have gone, are we in the 27th year now of not winning a playoff game?
01:26This is the 26th season.
01:28None other than the Dolphins have gone 26 years without winning a playoff game.
01:35So our quarterback list hits a little harder than ones that, oh, we had a bad one here and a
01:44bad one there.
01:45We've gone, since Dan Marino, I don't even know how many quarterbacks are on that list on the t-shirt.
01:5129.
01:5229 of them?
01:5329.
01:53We've gone 29 starting quarterbacks, and we have one who has a playoff win.
02:00That's remarkable.
02:02I'm glad we set the standard, because I don't know if it was the Instagram post or somebody that was
02:07listening to the show yesterday,
02:09but I went to pick up my morning coffee from the Pump and Munch, and a guy was lighting me
02:14up about, for some reason,
02:17I'm arguing that Tannehill is the, like, he's arguing for this.
02:20I'm like, bro, what did Tannehill do, really?
02:22What is this revisionist history?
02:24Everybody loved Tannehill.
02:25I was like, everybody loved Tannehill?
02:27He was dead serious.
02:28Like, it became a little uncomfortable he was so serious about this.
02:33Like, he was fine.
02:34He was a decent quarterback.
02:36Never turned out to be more than a decent quarterback.
02:39Did in Tennessee.
02:40We've talked about this.
02:41Actually, got them to a playoff game, but it was Matt Moore.
02:45AFC Championship, wasn't it?
02:47Yeah.
02:47Well, Tennessee.
02:48No, no, no, Tennessee.
02:49I'm talking with the Dolphins.
02:50They got to a playoff game.
02:52That was the one in Pittsburgh, right?
02:53Yeah, 2016, where Matt Moore died on the field.
02:55Yep.
02:56May he rest in peace.
02:56But, Hawk, to that, I saw the comment.
02:59I saw a response to that person's point.
03:01You could do the same with, like, the Chicago Bears over the last 26 years.
03:06List all the starting quarterbacks that have started for the Bears.
03:09And up until now Caleb Williams, where clearly that entire experiment is working out, there's
03:14some laughable names.
03:16Absolutely.
03:17Arguably significantly worse.
03:18But they went to a Super Bowl.
03:19They went to a Super Bowl.
03:21I watched.
03:21I think it was Rex Grossman.
03:22Rex Grossman.
03:23Rex Grossman.
03:24Sexy Rex.
03:24I watched Rex Grossman in a Super Bowl.
03:29So, how could you compare?
03:30You can't.
03:31Even the Jets, who are as laughable as it gets in the NFL as an organization over the
03:36past 20-something years, they went to two AFC deep runs, one AFC title game.
03:43And even as bad as their quarterbacks have been, they've had playoff success.
03:46You can't compare it to the Dolphins.
03:48That's how I feel.
03:49Like, I get it.
03:50Every team's had myriad starting quarterback, just based on injuries.
03:54I mean, you're not going to have a quarterback who's there for 15 seasons, very rarely.
03:59Like, the t-shirt in Green Bay would be short, you know.
04:02But for 27 seasons.
04:04But no one's had the futility that the Dolphins have had.
04:07They just haven't.
04:08Someone also had a good suggestion on the shirts.
04:11Do one for coaches.
04:13Head coaches since Don Shula.
04:18Jimmy Johnson's been there.
04:20Dave Wanstead won Coach of the Year.
04:22Like, there's been some names that have gone through, but also there's some clunkers.
04:28Oh, Philbin, Cam.
04:29Cam Cameron.
04:31Cam Cameron just turns my stomach saying his name.
04:34Dave Wanstead.
04:36Jimmy Johnson, Mike McDaniel, Tony Sperano, Brian Flores, Joe Philbin, Adam Gase, Nick Saban, Dan Campbell, Todd Bowles, Cam Cameron,
04:48now Jeff Halfley, Jim Bates.
04:51Mike McDaniel, you're forgetting.
04:53Mike McDaniel.
04:55I drank a beer with Jim Bates when he came and worked me out at UF.
05:00I mean, there's some crappy names on that list, too.
05:03Mike McDaniel is the fourth winningest head coach in Miami Dolphins history.
05:09Stop it.
05:11There have been 15 coaches in the history of the Miami Dolphins.
05:16Shula, Jimmy.
05:17That's crazy.
05:17Who's between that?
05:19Who's three?
05:20Because Shula and Jimmy Johnson will be one and two.
05:22It's got to be Shula, Jimmy, and Wanstead.
05:29McDaniel's fourth behind those guys?
05:31That's crazy.
05:32Well, because no one lasted four seasons.
05:34Yeah.
05:35Yeah.
05:36Wanstead was 2000-04, and he had 42 victories.
05:43Did you say 2000-04?
05:452000-04.
05:47Oh, I got it.
05:49Jimmy Johnson, 96-99.
05:5336 victories.
05:55And then Mike McDaniel, 35 victories.
05:592022-2025.
06:00That's crazy.
06:02He's the fourth winningest head coach in Dolphins history.
06:07It's one of the most storied franchises in sports.
06:09He's the fourth winningest head coach.
06:15And now he's calling plays from Pluto, as OG said yesterday.
06:21Crazy.
06:23That was a bad run.
06:25I mean, if you put it in some context, he had a better run than any of the names that
06:33came before him, other than maybe Jimmy Johnson.
06:35Well, is he on the Mount Rushmore of Dolphins head coaches?
06:38There's only been 15 of them, right?
06:40Correct.
06:41So, Shula's obviously on there.
06:44Jimmy Johnson's on there.
06:45Dave Wanstead's got to be on there.
06:49I think Mike McDaniel might be on the Mount Rushmore of Dolphins head coaches.
06:54Who's before Don Shula?
06:57I need another name.
06:59Who's before Don Shula?
07:01The only coach the Dolphins had prior to Shula was George Wilson from 1966 to 1969.
07:09Owen Wilson.
07:11Did he have success?
07:12I don't even know.
07:1315 wins, 39 losses.
07:16He was figuring things out.
07:18You got to give the nod to McDaniel.
07:20No, George Wilson.
07:22He accumulated the base of this organization.
07:27That's crazy.
07:27You can't put Mike McDaniel on any coaching list.
07:31I think you have to.
07:34Of a good coaching list?
07:36I mean.
07:38Even crazier is the playoff category in this bracket here on Pro Football Reference.
07:45Because only 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Dolphins coaches of the 15 ever appeared in the playoffs.
07:54Obviously, Shula has all the record winning percentage of 54 in the playoffs.
08:02Wani went to 3 playoff games, 1-2 record.
08:05Jimmy Johnson went to 5 playoff games, 2-3 record.
08:09Mike McDaniel has the second most, or the third most playoff appearances.
08:142.
08:15With 2.
08:17Adam Gase has 1.
08:19And then.
08:21That's it.
08:22Tony Sperano has 1.
08:23Tony Sperano has 1.
08:25You always want to disrespect 08, son.
08:29That is crazy.
08:33That's bad for an organization.
08:35You know what?
08:38That backs the people that give the ownership group a hard time.
08:42Now if you look at the coaching list.
08:44Well, is it bad for an organization?
08:47Recency bias?
08:48Yes.
08:49But I could argue how many organizations in the NFL had, I mean, nobody, like Shula.
08:56Like, that's why he's the greatest of all time.
08:58I mean, think about the success he had.
09:00Nobody's been able to replicate it here.
09:02But replicate it is one thing.
09:04A playoff win in 26 years is another.
09:07You know what I mean?
09:08No one's going to replicate Don Shula.
09:12Well, Belichick, we got close.
09:15But Mike McDaniel has the 4th most playoff appearances?
09:18Or 3rd most playoff?
09:20I mean, like, what are we doing here?
09:23With 2.
09:25Skylar Thompson started one of those games, by the way.
09:27And the other one, we played in 5-degree weather.
09:31Never had a chance.
09:32Yeah.
09:33I think that Shula, Belichick, like Vince Lombardi run.
09:38I think that's done.
09:39You're not going to have Coach B somewhere for 15-plus years anymore.
09:43Well, Andy Reid, how many years has he been in KC?
09:47A long time.
09:48Yeah.
09:49Like, I think that's the – and I'm not saying there's not coaches good enough.
09:52I think the sport has changed so much.
09:54Like, the microwave society.
09:56Right.
09:57Like, I think Mike Tomlin, Andy Reid, I think that wave is one of the last waves.
10:02Yeah, he was hired in 2013, but didn't really have success with the Chiefs.
10:06Like, real, real success, Super Bowl success until, what, 2018, when Patrick Mahomes, after he was drafted.
10:13Shockingly.
10:14Yeah.
10:17Well, if you want the quarterback's t-shirt, it's at hawklovesavocadotoast.com or horsemuffins.com.
10:24People love it.
10:25And you'll certainly have more opportunities to buy updated ones in the next season or two, I'm sure.
10:33But I think I should make a coach's one, too.
10:38A lot shorter.
10:39That's okay.
10:40It's not that much.
10:41Like, it's still pretty unimpressive when it comes to a list.
10:44Because think about, like, what Pittsburgh's list would be.
10:47They've had, what, four coaches in their history?
10:50Right?
10:51The Steelers?
10:51Yeah.
10:52I don't know who it was before Bill Cower.
10:54Was it Chuck Knoll?
10:56Was it Chuck Knoll?
10:57Yep.
10:58Knoll, Knoll, Tom Knoll.
10:59Chuck Knoll was the original, right?
11:00It was Knoll, Cower, Tomlin, and now McCarthy.
11:06Right?
11:07Those are the only four coaches in Steelers history, correct?
11:11Mm-hmm.
11:14I mean, ours has some weird names on it.
11:20Even Nick Saban.
11:23Like, it's so weird to see his name on that list.
11:26It was the push for the college coach at that time.
11:30That's when Pete Carroll left USC.
11:33That's when, hey, the greatest college coach can coach the NFL.
11:36It's just swings.
11:37Now we go with the guru, the positional guru, the offensive-defensive coordinator that has
11:42the best side of the ball.
11:44Like, it's just swings in this game.
11:46That was the right hire, though, wasn't it?
11:48Oh, for sure.
11:48I was too young to remember the reaction.
11:51It was an incredible hire.
11:54Saban was, I mean, that, like, you landed the whale.
11:58Yep.
12:00And I said, I think he could have been a great coach, a great NFL coach, if he just, if
12:05he
12:05hit on the quarterback.
12:06If he hit on the quarterback.
12:08But even after that, Crowder, let's say he doesn't take that Alabama job, and he doesn't
12:11lie to everybody's faces, and he doesn't become, you know, a little rat like he was.
12:16Does he have success in Miami?
12:18Like, would he have been a good head coach had he stayed another six years?
12:23I think he's smart enough, and he's, well, the defense was going to be good.
12:27Defense was still good.
12:28Like, I argue that people laugh because, you know, we weren't winning anything, but the
12:31defense was good those two years.
12:33He knows how to call a defense.
12:34I think he would have figured out how to coach grown men because that was another thing
12:38he had to get over was not being a dictator and being a co-worker.
12:41But football-wise, like the X and O side of it, he's Bill Belichick, maybe better.
12:52He puts on the chat, how about a Wildcat shirt, and what's the word on the W2 Roy shirt?
13:01No good, no good.
13:08All right, wrap up the headlines because I don't have time with DBJ.
13:11Think about trying to explain the W2 Roy shirt to somebody.
13:16Or think about, you know, walking through Publix and someone gives you a finger point because
13:21they recognize the W2 Roy shirt.
13:24Like, what a unique little fraternity you guys belong to.
13:29No good, no good.
13:37Well, we have this buddy that's listening to the show that loses his job once a year, and
13:43what are you talking about?
13:50Panthers play tonight.
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13:57Your weather in South Florida right now, it is 82 degrees.
14:01Tonight, the lows will drop into the low 70s.
14:02It's supposed to get cold, according to Hawk, this weekend.
14:05It will be.
14:06Maybe.
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14:18Hawk, McDaniel left the Dolphins with $190 million in dead cap money, and you want to
14:23put him on what?
14:25That's blasphemy.
14:27Based on wins and losses and playoff appearances, I think he's on the Mount Rushmore of Dolphins
14:32coaches.
14:33Sperano.
14:33Sperano clears them easy, and I think every Dolphins fan would agree with that.
14:38Tony Sperano clears Mike McDaniel.
14:40At least Tony Sperano delivered the Wildcat, and he had the fist bump field goals celebration.
14:48Well, what's more exciting, field goals celebration or a 70-burger on an opponent?
14:57We're going to talk about the 70-point game for the long, long time.
15:01It's going to be talked about the way the Wildcat is, I think.
15:062023, it is.
15:07I remember, they're playing Denver, it was 2023, number one offense, I was to his best
15:12year.
15:13I'm going to reference it.
