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Is Bregman signing? Dodgers continue to spend adding two FA relievers (Scott, Yates). MLB Thoughts on LAD? Are the RedSox done spending?
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00:00Kirby Yates, who was with the Rangers last year, I believe, and we'll add him to the deferred
00:09payroll there. I don't, I guess, don't hate the, uh, Wiggy, don't hate the, don't hate the playa.
00:18No, I hate the game.
00:19Hate the game.
00:21I don't know how they're, they're, I don't know how they're gonna keep doing it.
00:25It's crazy.
00:26It's, it's free agent after free agent.
00:28Right.
00:29After free agent and there, you look at their payroll, um, you know, you even remove
00:38Shohei from the mix and they're well over a billion dollars that they have invested in guys.
00:47Right.
00:47In the off season. I, like when you look at length of deal, it's, it's, it's nuts.
00:53He, cause whoever owns the Dodgers is probably like, all right, this is the next owner's problem.
00:57Yeah.
00:58Cause I'm selling this team.
00:59I have a question.
01:00Yeah.
01:01Which organization has spent billions of dollars in between championships?
01:06I'll tell you the New York Yankees, which is the most valuable franchise in all of baseball.
01:12The New York Yankees, they have spent more without winning than any team.
01:17They have built a new stadium that I don't think is as good as the one that replaced.
01:21They no longer are, you know, the team everybody fears,
01:25but they are by far the most valuable baseball team.
01:30We have been trained by an ownership group that arrived like the Yankees
01:36and now professes to be the chip, the Kansas city Royals.
01:40And I understand, you know, long-term, it may not be great.
01:44Is anybody around here worried about wick and his family?
01:47Because of Porzingis, because Porzingis helped you win a championship and he was expensive.
01:53You know, I, I just like, I w I look at where we are and when I was a kid,
02:00we would be ripping the red socks, not ripping the teams that spent.
02:04Yeah.
02:05I I'm listen, I'm not ripping the teams that spend there's to me,
02:11there's no point in having a luxury tax, right?
02:16If it is going to be basically useless because you can just defer money all the time.
02:23So my argument is if that's the way it's going to be done,
02:27then why aren't the red socks doing it?
02:29Curtis?
02:30Why didn't they?
02:31What it legitimately makes zero sense.
02:34This ownership group with all of its entities,
02:37what Shohei would mean to their business model and all of the payments being deferred.
02:42Cause you got to get players that are willing to do that.
02:45Like Juan Soto didn't do that with the Mets.
02:48Dang.
02:49Like you ain't deferring none of my money.
02:51I want my money now.
02:52So you got, I guess you got to find the players
02:54or when you go after those players that are willing to,
02:57well, they have found the players, Travis Scott, I think $21 million of that deal,
03:03which was just days ago by the Dodgers.
03:06That's deferred.
03:07Yeah.
03:08So if you can find the guys that are willing to do it,
03:12you know, I don't think the red socks have done it.
03:15They did it with sale.
03:15They did it with Manny.
03:16Yeah.
03:17They did it with Pedroia.
03:18Yeah.
03:18So if you can get some guys to defer.
03:20So why didn't they offer more to Shohei?
03:23I don't know.
03:23They were never kind of in on Shohei.
03:25Shohei was kind of, you mean Juan Soto?
03:27No.
03:27I mean, in general, I mean, I understand that his preference was to be in California,
03:33but we have legalized sports betting here.
03:34Right.
03:35I think it's a closer flight from Cali to Japan.
03:39Maybe that's what he was looking at.
03:40In all honesty, yes.
03:41But you're looking at, once you're up in the sky at 45,000 feet in a golf stream,
03:45you're looking at two hours.
03:47Three hours.
03:48Different.
03:48Well, that's why they were able to get.
03:49And lay flat.
03:52They got all three of those Japan pitches.
03:54They got Yamamoto.
03:55They got, you know, Shohei to resign there.
03:57And they got the other guy.
03:58What happened here where it was like, oh, Japan players from Japan want to play for the red
04:02socks.
04:03Like we were told that for so long.
04:04Yeah.
04:04We got Yoshida.
04:06I mean, I think Curtis, you said you believe that they get the Bregman thing done this week,
04:10right?
04:11Or soon.
04:11Yes.
04:12Yes.
04:12They should.
04:14But in general, I mean, do business.
04:17Do business as business is being done.
04:18Why not?
04:19Yeah.
04:19You would think that that money that, you know, that they were willing to pay, uh,
04:25Juan Soto.
04:25You would think that they would be willing to maybe spend that elsewhere.
04:29Dodgers have added Blake Snell.
04:32T.
04:33Oscar Hernandez.
04:35Uh, Travis Scott.
04:37Yeah.
04:38Like the Japanese young pitcher that everybody's high on.
04:41Yeah.
04:42And he says his name is Sasaki.
04:44Sasaki.
04:45And, and they just keep adding.
04:47It just keeps adding.
04:49Well, Curtis, you're the one who talked to Sam Kennedy.
04:51Like when you're talking to him at, at Red Sox weekend, did it seem like he was being
04:55truthful?
04:56I mean, you're the one who can usually see right through whatever the word salad they're
04:59putting out there.
05:00Yeah.
05:00That is a great way to put it.
05:02Sam Kennedy word salad.
05:03Um, I think he is living within newfound restrictions that he doesn't want to publicly
05:09discuss, but he.
05:11His answer on Soto was good.
05:13He said he, he viewed him in the, the organization viewed Soto as Ted Williams.
05:19So that pursuit was more about a unique one in a generation guy, as opposed to a change
05:25in the Red Sox business model.
05:27But in general, the organization is looking to get something that is streamlined with
05:31prospects and adding hesitantly with top end talent as needed.
05:36Once they know the organization is going to get to the playoffs where they can recoup
05:40those funds.
05:40It's a special time.
05:41Yeah.
05:41I mean, it sure was, uh, this is Rick from my adopted home continent of Maine.
05:46Hello, Rick.
05:48Hey, how you doing?
05:49Uh, Greg, I'm a, I'm right around your age in the crap that this ownership group of the
05:54Red Sox is slinging is disappointing.
05:58They literally created this problem by winning in 2004.
06:04Like we could always blame the curse.
06:06It was the curse.
06:07Well, now they've won and they're taking their crap and they don't know how to deal
06:11with it and they can't get anything done.
06:14They're not spending any money and I'm embarrassed to be a Red Sox fan.
06:19Was your expectation after what happened last season and three of the last four, whatever
06:25four of the last five was your expectation that they were actually going to spend
06:30reasonably in this off season?
06:32Absolutely.
06:34Absolutely.
06:34Like, why wouldn't they?
06:36They have all the money in the world.
06:38They're, they proclaim that they're, we're the Boston Red Sox, but yet then they spend
06:44like they're, they're freaking Marlins.
06:46It sucks.
06:47Yeah.
06:49Well, I wouldn't say the Marlins.
06:51I mean, here comes the bag of merch.
06:55No, no, no, no, no.
06:56It's, it's what fans got to understand.
06:58Sam did say that was the best investment he's ever made.
07:01What's fans got to understand you've been a relatively for, you know, the past 20 years,
07:07however long they own it, you've been top seven in payroll.
07:12Now you're like a, you know, 11, 12, 10 and fans are like, Oh, you think that they are,
07:20you think going into this season, they're going to be top 10 in payroll and major league?
07:25No, I don't.
07:26Yeah.
07:27They'll be, they were, they were 11th last year.
07:29So I think there'll be right around there.
07:31They, we know that they've changed their business plan and business model when it comes to it.
07:36So there'll be somewhere between 10 and 11, 12.
07:39That's where they'll be.
07:40They're not the Marlins.
07:40They're not at the bottom of the league.
07:42Right.
07:42But they're number one in terms of cost to go to a game.
07:44Yeah.
07:45But every game is expensive to go to.
07:46I mean, if you go, well, not, I mean, there's 30 baseball teams.
07:50If you go to Baltimore, we've done this before.
07:55You can find plenty of cheap tickets to go to Fenway.
07:57No, I know.
07:57But there's an impartial way that these organizations are judged.
08:00They're the most expensive.
08:01No, I get it.
08:02The tickets are expensive and I get, I get what you're saying, but you can find-
08:07They even got 30 to park at the Winterfest, which it's like,
08:11these people are driving into Boston paying 85 bucks a ticket.
08:16And you're going to get them for 30 bucks just to like, at some point,
08:20don't take advantage of the very people that are your lifeblood.
08:25Like, yeah.
08:25But that's every sports team though.
08:27And I can understand.
08:28It doesn't mean we have to accept it.
08:3060 bucks to pocket the TD Garden for free to park at Gillette.
08:33Right.
08:33But the TD Garden, the team is winning a championship.
08:36Oh, the Bruins.
08:37But have you seen the beer prices over there?
08:39Wiggy is-
08:39Yeah, that was on there.
08:40We need Jackson to go back for it.
08:42The internet got me on that one.
08:43And it's like 50 bucks to pocket Gillette.
08:46And like $50 to pocket Gillette.
08:47It's free.
08:48It's free if you're in one of the Patriots slots.
08:51Right.
08:51You just park across the street in the dirt lot and it's free.
08:54Do you guys remember-
08:54Oh, is it?
08:54Well, you don't have to pay if you go-
08:58If you're going to park in like P-
09:00Well, a lot of tickets come with parking.
09:02So you're-
09:03Well, maybe a lot of your tickets.
09:04Yeah, not a lot of tickets.
09:06My favorite parking experience of my life was when we went to the Woo Sox game.
09:12Yes.
09:13And we're just driving and Greg's like, because I got the, you know,
09:16maps open in my phone trying to get everybody to the restaurant.
09:18And he's like, just pull down here.
09:20I'm like, what are you talking about?
09:21So I pull down this road and he's like, okay.
09:24It was a street that all of a sudden closed when Greg told me to park there.
09:29The officer was like, all right, Hillman, we'll keep an eye on it.
09:31Listen, I am big in Worcester, Curtis.
09:33That's where it all began.
09:35I cannot deny that.
09:37Maybe nowhere else, but-
09:39They treated that car like it was the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
09:42I did not know that, Sean.
09:43I appreciate the insight.
09:45Did not know that.
09:46Yeah, like when we went to the game as a show just a couple of weeks ago,
09:49you could just park across the dirt lot for free.
09:50And right across the street, huh?
09:52Yeah.
09:53In those giant dirt lots?
09:54Yeah, yeah.
09:55It's free.
09:55This is Greg from Marshfield.
09:58Hey, Greg.
10:00Hi, guys and lady.
10:02Let's look at what the ownership group of the Red Sox and the Patriots have in common.
10:07They're both old.
10:08They both have multiple world championships under their belt.
10:12And they're both not spending money.
10:14I think they're happy with their resume.
10:16And they're just going to lead us along thinking they're going to do something
10:21when really they're not.
10:23They're happy with what they've done so far.
10:25You think so?
10:26You think John Henry is happy with what they are lately?
10:29Not lately, but I'm sure he's happy with his resume.
10:32Yeah.
10:35What are the chances he has another world championship?
10:38Oh, Bob, very slim.
10:40I think they're happy with what they've done.
10:42I think they're-
10:42All right, thanks.
10:43I think they're complacent and-
10:44Well, I think he's trying to drive, you know,
10:47strategically trying to drive the deals down when it comes to length of deal and,
10:56you know, and cost of deal.
10:58But it's not smart if you're the only person playing money ball when teams like the Dodgers
11:06are doing the exact opposite.
11:09Right.
11:09But I think he's gone with the approach of we've had too many bad deals
11:16where we spent a ton of money.
11:18And whether it was Adrian Gonzalez, whether it was Kyle Crawford, whether it was Chris Sale,
11:24where they might go, we spent too much money at the Panda on given-
11:31We're going to change our business model a little bit.
11:34We won four chips.
11:35And I don't agree with that approach.
11:39But it feels like that's what they're doing over there.
11:42And they're going to like, all right, we're going to see if we can win
11:44in a different way of maybe where we're 11, 12 and then payroll and see if we can still
11:49win a World Series without having to be top five.
11:52OK, but if you were to get your crystal ball going forward, do you think the majority of
11:58teams in Major League Baseball are going to do what the Dodgers are doing, which is just
12:04convince guys to take deferred money and then the tax is irrelevant or do what the Red Sox
12:12are doing and try to force some kind of adjustment when it comes to what guys are being paid?
12:18Dodgers.
12:19They're going to do what the Dodgers are doing.
12:21But the thing is, is John Henry, why does he care?
12:23The Red Sox and what they're spending, what their roster looks like right now,
12:26he already has the World Series under his belt.
12:28It's only part of his portfolio.
12:30Like he is so spread all over the place that I think in his mind, he goes to sleep at night
12:35and he's like, meh, who cares about the Red Sox?
12:37I think it's probably, and I wouldn't know because I'm not the diehard, diehard baseball
12:41guy, but I think in baseball, the disparity of like the teams that get to the World Series
12:47and win that spend a ton of money versus the teams that like the Tampa Bay Rays are,
12:54you know, the Kansas City Royals, like teams that don't spend a bunch of money.
12:57I think when you look at the teams that are relatively successful year in and year out,
13:03it probably is more of those top spenders.
13:05How are the Dodgers doing?
13:06Well, yeah, the Dodgers are doing good.
13:08But if you look up and down that roster, that's Yamamoto, Freeman.
13:18I mean, I feel like, yeah, that is the approach.
13:20I will give you that because other than the Arizona Diamondbacks a couple of years ago,
13:24you look at the Dodgers played the Yankees in the World Series.
13:27Two of the two teams that are top five in payroll, you know, you look at some of the
13:31teams that are competitive and teams that are playoff teams.
13:37You look at Philly, they spend a lot of money.
13:40But here's where it really bothers me most.
13:43It's that never has there been a bigger discrepancy between the haves and the have-nots
13:49in Major League Baseball because there are so many networks that went under with Bally
13:55and the local rights holders are not gaining the financial bonus of locally broadcast games,
14:01whereas Nesson is a behemoth in that field.
14:05And so John Henry joining the Economic Reform Committee in Major League Baseball
14:10under the direction of the commissioner to bring in the cost of players,
14:15that guy is prioritizing the long-term health of the sport as opposed to the immediate success
14:21of his baseball team.
14:22And to me, that is someone who is being derelict in their duty as the owner of the team.
14:26All right.
14:27Well, Dodgers nearing yet another free agent acquisition.
14:32That is Kirby Yates.
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