00:00 One of the biggest achievements of the Hemanswaran government, Jharkhand Mukti Mochi government
00:07 is the Sarna Code Bill.
00:11 The census is scheduled to be held in 2025.
00:15 The Jharkhand government still has the Sarna Code Bill with the Governor.
00:21 What are your views on this?
00:23 India is a multi-ethnic nation.
00:35 And there are many tribes within this nation.
00:40 We are a different kind of tribal. We believe in the nature.
00:56 We worship the nature.
01:02 That is why we have a different identity.
01:12 And our identity as a tribal is different.
01:18 The year 1617 was a very fresh year for us. The year when Tilga Maaji was killed by the British.
01:34 It was 1755.
01:38 Our history is very old.
01:44 And our struggle, our ancestors' struggle, is not written in the accounts.
02:03 We have to protect our water, forest, land, our language, our religion, our tradition.
02:18 When we do something for ourselves, who is there to give us orders?
02:24 We make our own fields, we cultivate our own crops.
02:34 We grow grains, we grow vegetables.
02:39 And we move forward with our society.
02:49 This is a long history.
02:54 Whenever a tribal has the capacity to lead, they try to do something about it.
03:04 They try to bring it under the law and try to end it.
03:10 In every decade, you will find the leadership of our tribal in the form of history.
03:22 When they start doing the right leadership, then somehow,
03:31 they try to bring that leadership under the law and try to end it.
03:40 The party that we have formed, Dishyamguru Shiv Swaranya,
03:50 we fought against the Mahajan.
03:56 We fought for a long time, for lakhs of acres of land.
04:05 We fought against the Mahajan.
04:09 The tribal leadership has never been in the wrong.
04:16 They try to bring it under the law and try to weaken it.
04:23 The only example of this is Hemashwaran.
04:28 He is from the same family that separated Jharkhand and fought against the Mahajan.
04:36 The tribal has been forced to give up their land.
04:44 And the tribals are getting the bad name.
04:48 The tribal has never interfered in any way.
04:53 - So, what is happening is the same as what happened with Hemashwaran?
04:57 - I am telling you without any excuse.
05:01 The tribal has the land.
05:08 25 lakhs of people have been divided.
05:12 How did this happen? It is a scintillation.
05:15 The tribal has no land.
05:18 The tribal has no land.
05:21 - So, what do you think is the reason why the Sarna court has not taken any steps yet?
05:29 The central government has not taken any steps yet.
05:32 Hemashwaran has repeatedly asked to keep it in the 9th schedule.
05:36 - So, what will we say? Is it new with the tribal?
05:40 Tell us.
05:43 - If we look at Hemashwaran in the last 4-5 years, he has been very open about the BJP.
05:51 And the 3-4 big decisions that he took,
05:54 there was the Sarna Dharam Court, the 1932 Constitution,
05:59 and the OBC Reservation Bill, which was increased.
06:03 After that, we are seeing such a picture of Hemashwaran on a national level.
06:09 - What I am trying to say is that a true leader has been born.
06:15 - That the national leaders are standing up for the tribals.
06:18 - When the true leaders started doing it,
06:23 the central government opened its eyes and nose.
06:30 In 1932, the Sarna Dharam Court increased the OBC by 87%.
06:40 They increased the STAC by 1-2%.
06:50 - They stopped the extension of the Neta Heart Field firing range.
06:55 - They took away the planning area of the Neta Heart Firing Range.
07:00 - They took away the land of the tribals.
07:04 - That's why the central government opened its eyes and nose.
07:12 - That's why the central agency came here.
07:21 - At this point, when Hemanswaran was trying to unite the tribals,
07:28 some other tribal leaders were trying to divide the tribals.
07:36 - All this is happening from there.
07:40 Divide the tribals.
07:43 - We have said that all the procedures and regulations are in place here.
07:53 - The law on human life is being implemented here.
07:59 - It has become a practical law.
08:08 - But the tribals will not stop.
08:13 - History has shown that the tribals never let their tradition be destroyed.
08:28 - The tribals are not going to let their tradition be destroyed.
08:43 - They are saying that after the tribal people have joined another religion,
08:51 their tribalism is being destroyed.
08:54 - They are going away from the tradition.
08:56 - There is no such thing.
08:58 - You don't believe in such a thing.
09:01 - What is your opinion about delisting?
09:05 - All this is a plan of the BJP and RSS sitting in the centre.
09:17 - Let's come to the next place.
09:22 - If they are so concerned, why are they not giving us the Sarnath Dharamkot?
09:29 - If the BJP has given us six columns and removed the small ones,
09:34 - where will we write?
09:43 - Where will we write the Sarnath Dharamkot?
09:47 - You have removed the small ones.
09:50 - What will we understand?
09:52 - Are we conspiring or not?
09:54 - The BJP government sitting in the centre.
09:57 - There is no but or but in this.
10:01 - And for that too the tribals will fight.
10:07 - They have thought that they can keep the leadership for a few days in the Kanwaran Sikandar.
10:19 - But they will not keep the leadership.
10:21 - Not for the sake of equality.
10:23 - They will not keep the leadership.
10:29 - When we have such a long history,
10:33 - still they have not kept our voice.
10:35 - Where did we come from?
10:37 - We were just a few.
10:39 - And there is a big picture of Himanshwar.
10:43 - Is this a message to the tribals?
10:45 - Definitely, in which way have you done this?
10:51 - The money has been made,
10:55 - but the implementation is still left.
10:58 - You have done the work of establishing the government.
11:05 - Oh, okay.
11:07 - The BJP people.
11:09 - In these 4 years, 2 years,
11:12 - the country has not improved at all.
11:16 - But the BJP people say that they have not done anything in these 4 years.
11:20 - The government of the double engine,
11:25 - in this state,
11:26 - has not even installed a ventilator in a hospital.
11:29 - The government of the double engine,
11:33 - has not even installed a ventilator in a hospital.
11:36 - The BJP.
11:38 - What do they pray for?
11:41 - They pray for development.
11:43 - They are changing our history.
11:47 - This is the BJP.
11:50 - It is a very big thing.
11:55 - Is this the reason,
11:57 - when you made the final rule of TSE in 2021,
12:02 - is this the reason,
12:04 - because of the intervention of the central government,
12:06 - you have cut the powers of the governor?
12:10 - Yes, they have cut the powers.
12:12 - They have made it to work.
12:14 - They have made it for 36 years.
12:21 - Their government was also made like that.
12:24 - Yes, they made it the same way.
12:26 - So why is it happening here?
12:28 - It is very difficult.
12:31 - If they have made it, then it is fine.
12:33 - We are on the same path.
12:35 - We are wrong.
12:36 - But what is this?
12:38 - There is a question.
12:43 - When the voice of Hemant Soren was heard,
12:48 - that the tribal people of the country should unite,
12:51 - and that voice was heard in the assemblies,
12:54 - in the programs and in every decision,
12:58 - it was believed that Hemant Soren
13:00 - would unite the tribal people of the country.
13:02 - But the result of these four states,
13:05 - Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan,
13:08 - shows that despite all the protests,
13:12 - and the voice of the people,
13:15 - a majority of the tribal people
13:19 - are on the side of the BJP.
13:21 - So, in this case,
13:23 - the tribal people of the country should unite.
13:25 - It will remain for a while.
13:28 - Elections will keep coming.
13:30 - It will remain for a while.
13:32 - Because the tribal people
13:35 - have been exploited financially.
13:39 - They have never become big businessmen.
13:43 - They have been kept away from the education.
13:48 - But now they understand everything.
13:56 - They understand how much they have been exploited.
14:03 - The BJP has not let them go.
14:07 - But the tribal people are still going with the BJP.
14:11 - They will go with a shirt on.
14:15 - After that, everything will be the same.
14:17 - In the 2024 elections,
14:19 - which faces will you bring forward
14:22 - in Jharkhand for the Lok Sabha elections?
14:25 - We have a strong bond with the BJP.
14:27 - Even if we are inside the jail,
14:29 - we will remain there.
14:31 - We have a strong bond with the BJP.
14:33 - Even if we are inside the jail,
14:35 - we will remain there.
14:37 - Even if we are inside the jail,
14:39 - we will remain there.
14:41 - We will fight in the streets.
14:43 - We will fight in the streets.
14:45 - We will fight in the streets.
14:47 - We will fight in the streets.
14:49 - We will fight in the streets.
14:51 - We will fight in the streets.
14:53 - The central government has done this.
14:55 - The central government.
14:57 - By marketing.
14:59 - Sir, whenever the Bidhan Sabha elections are held...
15:01 - Sir, whenever the Bidhan Sabha elections are held...
15:03 - We say that by marketing,
15:05 - they have not let their own people go.
15:07 - We say that by marketing,
15:09 - they have not let their own people go.
15:11 - We have to abuse the Gandhi family
15:13 - from Nehru to the present.
15:15 - We have to abuse the Gandhi family
15:17 - from Nehru to the present.
15:19 - From here,
15:21 - the Mahagadvandan will bring 14 seats.
15:23 - the Mahagadvandan will bring 14 seats.
15:25 - Last time,
15:27 - we saw that in the Bidhan Sabha,
15:29 - the Gadvandan is getting a good result.
15:31 - Whenever the national elections are held,
15:33 - Whenever the national elections are held,
15:35 - Lok Sabha elections are held,
15:37 - but my question was,
15:39 - in the Bidhan Sabha and Lok Sabha,
15:41 - the tribal people are voting
15:43 - in different places.
15:45 - When Jammu and Mughal are being supported in the Bidhan Sabha,
15:47 - in the Lok Sabha,
15:49 - the political leaders
15:51 - are being supported in different places.
15:53 - But the tribal people
15:55 - are being supported in the Bidhan Sabha.
15:57 - The political leaders
15:59 - are being supported in the Bidhan Sabha.
16:01 - We are getting to know
16:03 - the character of the people.
16:05 - We are getting to know
16:07 - the character of the people.
16:09 - The people are very strong.
16:11 - Last one thing,
16:13 - the government
16:15 - is continuously
16:17 - is continuously
16:19 - making a difference
16:21 - in the government.
16:23 - There is a conflict.
16:25 - After becoming the Chief Minister,
16:27 - have you tried to solve this?
16:29 - We have been trying to solve this
16:31 - since the beginning.
16:33 - Our relationship with the Governor
16:35 - is like the Governor is the opposition.
16:37 - The Governor is the opposition.
16:39 - More than the BJP, the Governor is being opposed.
16:41 - What did we say?
16:43 - We said before
16:45 - that the agency was created
16:47 - for the benefit of the people.
16:49 - It is good to be independent.
16:51 - It is good to be independent.
16:53 - It is good to be independent.
16:55 - But if you are
16:57 - trying to create a difference,
16:59 - then you are a clean cheat.
17:01 - You are a clean cheat.
17:03 - If you stay here,
17:05 - you will be...
17:07 - Like BJP washing machine.
17:09 - Like BJP washing machine.
17:11 - Then the question will arise.
17:13 - Will it arise or not?
17:15 - That is why you raise your question on the Governor.
17:17 - Sometimes,
17:19 - we are forced to speak like this.
17:21 - We have no allies.
17:23 - For the Adivasi,
17:25 - the Prime Minister is bringing
17:27 - a project worth Rs. 24,000 crores
17:29 - for the PVTG group.
17:31 - The most concerned about the Adivasi
17:33 - is the BJP.
17:35 - The election has come, so I said it.
17:37 - And the court said...
17:39 - First, give us the Sanatana Dharam Court.
17:41 - It is not about the cost.
17:43 - It is about the value.
17:45 - You have been the CM for a year.
17:51 - What is your priority
17:53 - in this one year?
17:55 - What are the challenges?
17:57 - Look, Mr. Hemant has made
17:59 - a very good plan.
18:01 - We have to increase it.
18:03 - That is the priority.
18:05 - Why will we change?
18:07 - We have to keep the Sanatana Dharam Court.
18:09 - We have to keep the Sanatana Dharam Court.
18:11 - We have to keep the 1932
18:13 - and the 87% office arrangement.
18:15 - We have to clear all these things
18:19 - in one year.
18:21 - We have to take this to Delhi.
18:23 - We have to take this to Delhi.
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