00:00that we have been attacked by a car, a licensed weapon is lying there.
00:04The driver ran to me with the weapon.
00:08Because I am a custodian, I will take it in my hand.
00:11If the car is broken, I will take it to another car.
00:13And he kept lying that he was firing a gun, or he was carrying a pistol,
00:17or he was waving it around in London.
00:18All the fronts were united against me.
00:21But still, we are going to win the elections.
00:23Namaskar. Welcome once again to One India Hindi.
00:25And I am at the Vidhan Sabha in Jharkhand, in Dalton Ganj.
00:28And with me is the ex-Minister, K. N. Tripathi.
00:31Let me introduce him a little.
00:32He was in the Air Force before.
00:34After leaving his job, he decided to serve the people and fought the elections.
00:39He also became a MLA once, in 2009.
00:42And that time he got a chance to serve the people as a minister.
00:47So let's start from here.
00:48Because in the season of elections, the opposition also sees a lot.
00:51And the work is always compared.
00:54So when we interviewed yesterday, the other MPs,
00:57and spoke to the people, your work was stopped.
00:59So I would like to ask you, while you were a minister at that time,
01:02what were you able to give to the people?
01:04I did a lot of big things.
01:07I did things that were not done here before.
01:11For example, electricity used to stay in Palamu district for 3-4 hours only.
01:16Because the Hathia grid was separate,
01:19and the electricity that used to be taken from Renupur was not separate.
01:23Both were not connected.
01:25In the matter of electricity, they were separate.
01:27And that is why it was not being connected,
01:29because the entire Latihar area is a jungle area.
01:32And at that time, Ugrawad was at the top.
01:35So we connected a lot with the CRPF and Hathia grid.
01:43Ugrawad means Naxalwad, as we call it.
01:47So what is the situation now, if we talk about Naxalwad, is everything fine now?
01:50Yes, I think that when Home Minister Shivraj Patil and P.C. Dambram were there,
01:57during their time, police pickets were made in many places.
02:02Due to the police pickets, the movement decreased a little.
02:07Now, people are living a normal life.
02:13So this was a special opportunity for your work.
02:15And as a minister, what did you give to the people?
02:18I was the Home Minister of the Labour Employment and Training Department.
02:24At that time, the JSLPS was launched by the Indian government,
02:30by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
02:32So, through the JSLPS, we got help from all over the state.
02:39Even today, 3.5 lakh communities are working here,
02:43of which more than 2 lakh were made by me.
02:47Then, I was with the Home Minister,
02:50and the money that was in the Labour Board,
02:52we made a rule for that,
02:54that to buy the equipment for the labourers,
03:035000 rupees.
03:05Did you distribute it?
03:07No, no, we distributed it to the land,
03:09that 5000 rupees will be given,
03:11to buy 7000 cycles.
03:13To educate 10,000 children,
03:15a scholarship will be given.
03:1715,000 pregnant women will be given.
03:21In Dalton, a lot of work was done,
03:233 pools were built, roads were built.
03:25I have a question in my mind,
03:27you did this work from 2009 to 2014.
03:29After that,
03:31there was a party,
03:33which was not even from a big party,
03:35your big party was Congress.
03:37After defeating everyone, it became a MLA,
03:39and again became a MLA.
03:42No, I don't see it like that.
03:44What happens is,
03:46our society,
03:48is an emotional society.
03:50That society,
03:52when it sees someone sad, it becomes sad.
03:54It is emotional.
03:56What happened is,
03:58we didn't know,
04:00in the last 10 days,
04:02the mothers,
04:04aunts,
04:06and other women,
04:087-8 women,
04:10in clusters,
04:12started crying door to door.
04:14They started crying.
04:16What happened?
04:18They started crying,
04:20that this poor guy has become a tour,
04:22and his father,
04:24I think 4-5 months ago,
04:26his father passed away.
04:28Now save him, save him.
04:32And the second time?
04:34The second time,
04:36the vote he got,
04:39he got 60,000 votes,
04:41and the BJP got 42,000 votes.
04:45Both got 1,02,000 votes.
04:49Now, the BJP
04:51made him a candidate,
04:53so the BJP's
04:5540,000 votes,
04:57those 40,000 votes,
04:59were added.
05:01So, all the fronts
05:03were united against me.
05:05But still, we are going to win the elections.
05:07But on the day of the vote,
05:09there was a cheating.
05:11There was an attack on our car.
05:13On you?
05:15Yes, on the car and on us.
05:17There was 10-12,000 rupees in the car,
05:21and a licensed weapon.
05:23The driver ran with the weapon
05:25and came to me.
05:27Since I am a custodian,
05:29I will take it in my hand.
05:31Now that the car is broken,
05:33I will take it to another car.
05:36And BJP's IT cell
05:38was on the ground.
05:40And the social media campaigned against you.
05:42And the Chief Minister detained me.
05:44I came to DC to tell them.
05:46And I was detained for the whole day.
05:48My words could not reach the public.
05:50And they were lying,
05:52saying that I was shooting,
05:54that I was carrying a pistol,
05:56that I was waving a flag.
06:00They attacked the car,
06:02I was a custodian,
06:04and I ran away.
06:06Now, since you have a new election,
06:08what is the strategy?
06:10How are you winning?
06:12What are you telling people?
06:14The public is sympathetic.
06:16They know that last time,
06:18this person was cheated and defeated.
06:20And the public was upset for 5 years.
06:24The public was upset
06:26because of the cheating.
06:28This time, the public does not want to take a risk.
06:30Because the 10 years of torture
06:32cannot be forgotten.
06:34The pain of the officials,
06:36the torture, running around,
06:38there is no road, there is no drain,
06:40living in filth.
06:42There is so much trouble for the public.
06:44There is no one to attend in the hospital.
06:46They want Mr. Tripathi
06:48to sit like this.
06:50You have told us about the arrangements.
06:52Because you are a resident here,
06:54and you left your army job to serve the people.
06:56If a person wants to understand
06:59the Dalton Ganj issue,
07:01it is very important
07:03for them to change.
07:05When I went to Chetan,
07:07I found out that the biggest problem
07:09was the drinking water issue.
07:11Although the Kerala government
07:13and other people say that
07:15there is a plan to burn every house.
07:17But when I went there,
07:19I did not find much on the ground.
07:21When we talked about this,
07:23they said that the minister here
07:25cheated the JMM.
07:27The central government
07:29is a government
07:31of narrative.
07:33It is a government
07:35of media, IT sales,
07:37and social media.
07:39They want us to give a narrative
07:41so that the people are carried away
07:43by that narrative.
07:45Do you remember,
07:47India signing was started
07:49by Mr. Pramod Mahajan.
07:51Yes, in 2004.
07:53It was over.
07:56At that time,
07:58social media did not come forcefully.
08:00After 10 years,
08:02they used
08:04electronic and print media.
08:10Social media is for everyone.
08:12It is your job to break the narrative.
08:14If something is being run wrong,
08:16then how to do it?
08:18There was a time
08:20when social media was new.
08:22Other people could not understand it.
08:24Today, we are countering it equally.
08:26I do not think
08:28that the situation is the same.
08:30You can go around
08:32and see.
08:34The situation has not changed.
08:36I would like to ask you
08:38one last question.
08:40I have heard the speech
08:42of the Dhan Mantri here.
08:44In Jharkhand,
08:46I have seen
08:48that the JMM
08:50or the Gadbandhan Dal
08:53I have seen that
08:55the BJP leaders
08:57attack the Muslims.
08:59In the past,
09:01there was an attack
09:03on Durga Sobha Yatra.
09:05They made it an issue.
09:07How do you counter this?
09:09How do people explain
09:11that your government is so impartial?
09:13The government is impartial
09:15because it is run by the officials.
09:17These issues
09:19are not just about
09:21the people.
09:23There are many issues
09:25that are raised.
09:27The Mandal Dam issue
09:29has been raised for 10 years.
09:31The PM has come to the elections
09:33four times.
09:35He has said that the Mandal Dam
09:37is being built.
09:39It has been built.
09:41The head of the Mandal Dam,
09:43J.P. Nataji, has said
09:45that the Mandal Dam is being built.
09:47Nothing has happened there.
09:50What will be the benefits
09:52of the Mandal Dam?
09:54Not even a single tree has been cut.
09:56What will happen if it is built?
09:58If it was to be built,
10:00we would have protested
10:02at the time of the PM.
10:04If it is to be built,
10:06we would have given water
10:08to the local people.
10:10They are just listening to the narrative
10:12that the Mandal Dam is public.
10:14Everyone is not going to the Mandal Dam.
10:16They will vote for it.
10:20Remove the attention.
10:22It is a speech.
10:24The attention will not be removed.
10:26The public has suffered for 10 years.
10:28They do not want to suffer for the next 5 years.
10:30So, they will not leave those 5 years.
10:32What about the JMM workers in Gadwandan?
10:34Are they getting support?
10:36Everyone is fighting.
10:38So, this was the inter-party
10:40of the ex-Minister.
10:42It is not necessary for me to repeat
10:44what he said.
10:46That's all for now.
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