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00:00:00 I think that was funny, but I don't think you're taking accountability either.
00:00:04 I said that if anyone else had told me that that Tate thing was worth talking about, I will give-
00:00:10 But you blogged it, Kel!
00:00:12 No, I replied to his blog, and all I got in response to it from anybody was, "Dan, hey,
00:00:16 great blog."
00:00:17 But how often do, like, I don't know, like, "Oh, I've done a radio, we've done shows for 10 years."
00:00:21 I don't ever talk about what people text me about.
00:00:22 His original blog made no sense to me.
00:00:24 [Piano music]
00:00:33 It's another edition of KFC Radio on the Barstool Sports Network.
00:00:36 Today's episode is presented by a company that I have been chasing down for the last decade,
00:00:44 a company that I have been quite literally begging to work with since I started podcasting.
00:00:51 It is my great white buffalo. We have finally attained it.
00:00:56 Today's episode of KFC Radio is brought to you by KFC.
00:01:00 [KFC radio noises]
00:01:03 Finally!
00:01:04 So annoying in your headphones, I bet.
00:01:06 For sure.
00:01:06 [KFC radio noises]
00:01:07 But you know what? It sounds crisp as hell because Pabst has some new audio stuff going on that
00:01:12 sounds extra crispy. We'll talk about that in a minute and why Jackie might have to wear a helmet
00:01:16 for a month. KFC, Kentucky Fried Chicken is finally sponsoring Kevin Francis Clancy and KFC Radio.
00:01:25 It's been basically a decade of me asking for it and them being like, "You guys are too crazy. I
00:01:32 don't know if we can do it." And finally, with the—oh my god, my mouth is watering. I don't
00:01:36 even know if I can talk. My mouth is watering.
00:01:38 We had a little onboarding meeting with them last week and they were like,
00:01:43 "So are you going to eat the food?" I'm going to do nothing but eat the food, just so you know.
00:01:49 I will try my best to not chew into my mouth.
00:01:52 KFC Radio is now a fucking mukbang.
00:01:54 It's just me sitting here eating KFC.
00:02:03 Well, let me tell you what's going on here. And sometimes, sometimes it's better to wait
00:02:13 what's it called? You know, it's better, you know, you know what I'm saying?
00:02:20 Yeah, I know what you're saying.
00:02:22 Because all these years—
00:02:24 Listen to that Detroit.
00:02:25 Sometimes it's better, you know, to let things grow and happen organically over time and the
00:02:35 buildup behind it all makes it all the more satisfying because KFC's new product—
00:02:43 We're talking about edging.
00:02:43 KFC's new product is the Smash Bowl, where they take all the good stuff and throw it together
00:02:53 into one bowl. And I know a guy who operates like that. I know a guy whose daily life is all
00:03:00 about taking his favorite foods and putting it all into one bowl. I also know a guy who's incredible
00:03:04 at eating and swallowing on a podcast without chewing at all. He's going to put on a clinic
00:03:09 again today. So the fact that KFC finally advertises with us when John Henry Feidelberg
00:03:16 has been living the Smash Bowl life for the last year, you know, I'm almost happy it took a decade
00:03:27 because now it's all the more satisfying, all the sweeter to watch a Smash Bowl.
00:03:32 A John Henry Smash Bowl actually is like making us money. It's incredible.
00:03:38 It's—
00:03:40 I just did the Feidelberg with the mashed potatoes. It's amazing.
00:03:44 When you do it, you feel like Superman. You can just swallow this food and it feels amazing.
00:03:49 What is the point of it? I like the easiest road there, and the easiest road is not chewing,
00:03:55 you just swallow. And it is perfect. This is what I eat every single day, only it's better.
00:04:03 I love it, dude. So the Smash Bowl, mashed potatoes, cheese, bacon, and french fries.
00:04:10 Yo, you mix in a KFC biscuit, you get a little— you don't even need to get the chicken,
00:04:17 but obviously if you're at KFC, you gotta get some chicken. You mix that in there,
00:04:20 like all of your sides. Prior to the Smash Bowl, I would always be like,
00:04:24 "Am I really going to order every single side? I'm going to order like a two-piece,
00:04:28 but do I have to be like, 'I want the mashed potatoes, and I want this, and I want this,
00:04:31 and I want that,'" and then they end up giving you a thousand forks, and it's like,
00:04:34 "No, no, no, sir, this is only for two people." So it's all the good KFC sides into one. I would
00:04:40 make the argument that KFC, out of all fast food chains, has the best sides.
00:04:44 I think that's a strong argument.
00:04:46 It's unstoppable. The chicken is obviously their hallmark, but when you go there, deciding between
00:04:52 all the sides is absolutely impossible, and that's where the Smash Bowl comes into play.
00:04:56 You don't need to decide.
00:04:57 Here's all of them.
00:04:58 So for the next month, we will be presented by KFC Radio.
00:05:03 All through the Super Bowl, all through the month of March, the great white buffalo has
00:05:08 finally been hunted down, and we're in bed with Kentucky Fried Chicken.
00:05:13 I want to thank all the chicken heads. I want to thank all the listeners.
00:05:17 I want to thank my parents. I want to thank you guys for making this happen.
00:05:20 It's a lifelong dream of mine to be sponsored by my namesake.
00:05:25 There was a time where I thought maybe I was going to get a cease and desist.
00:05:29 I didn't know how that was going to work.
00:05:30 I was like, "Maybe they own the letters. I don't know."
00:05:33 But not only is there no cease and desist, we're in bed together, baby.
00:05:38 We have a partnership.
00:05:40 So cheers to KFC.
00:05:41 Here's to the Smash Bowl.
00:05:43 I want to see everybody eating Smash Bowls, because there's no excuse not to.
00:05:48 I want pictures. I want videos.
00:05:50 I want you at the drive-thru. I want you at the restaurant.
00:05:53 I want you at taking it home.
00:05:55 I want you bringing it to your fancy soirees.
00:05:59 Pav sold me down on TikTok.
00:06:01 There's a trend.
00:06:01 You bring KFC potatoes to your fancy dinner parties, and people can't even tell it's so delicious.
00:06:07 I want Smash Bowls.
00:06:09 Super Bowl party.
00:06:10 Oh my gosh.
00:06:10 All Smash Bowls.
00:06:11 Super Bowl party makes it--
00:06:12 This casserole I made, or whatever the hell you call it.
00:06:16 You know what you do?
00:06:16 Here's what you do.
00:06:17 Everybody's going to bring their Buffalo Chicken Dab, right?
00:06:22 You bring a Smash Bowl, and you call it the blah blah blah special, or delight.
00:06:28 You put your name in.
00:06:29 So you go, and you be like, "This is called the Feidelberg Delight.
00:06:33 It's a family recipe of ours we've been doing for years."
00:06:36 Or the Feidelberg special.
00:06:37 And you tell people it's a family tradition, and you serve it in a different bowl so it
00:06:44 doesn't look like it's from KFC, and people will not even know.
00:06:46 They'll think your grandma invented it.
00:06:50 [LAUGHTER]
00:06:52 That's like when I studied abroad in Spain, and the house mom I lived with tried to convince
00:07:02 me-- not try to convince me, she didn't try to convince me, she just told me that she
00:07:05 invented a dish that was just sausage and potatoes.
00:07:09 [LAUGHTER]
00:07:10 I like the effort.
00:07:11 And I was like, "No, you didn't."
00:07:13 I like that.
00:07:13 I think this was the Germans.
00:07:15 And she hit me.
00:07:19 She was like, "No!"
00:07:20 You deserved it.
00:07:22 Who were you?
00:07:22 I just got abused by a Spanish woman.
00:07:25 I think I have to tell my mom about this.
00:07:29 I'm 17 years old.
00:07:30 For real?
00:07:31 This is abuse.
00:07:32 So it is Smash Bowl season.
00:07:35 Get your Smash Bowls, send them to us, and for the next month, you probably won't see
00:07:41 me eat anything.
00:07:42 But, you know what, throw me those slides.
00:07:45 Toss me those slides.
00:07:47 I'm going to get decked out in the slides.
00:07:51 We'll get the koozies going.
00:07:52 Oh, hell yeah.
00:07:55 Oh, wow, these are like real slides.
00:07:59 Oh, these are like real slides.
00:08:01 And I'm just FDR.
00:08:03 Yeah, some people would use this as a beach towel.
00:08:07 This is just Jon's sheets.
00:08:08 This is Jon's bed sheets.
00:08:09 He's going to take this home and sleep on this.
00:08:11 Bro, I got out of bed this morning, and I realized, you know when you're at a really
00:08:15 nice restaurant, and they--
00:08:17 I don't know if I can go toes out on the podcast.
00:08:19 Can I do that?
00:08:20 I'm going to put my socks back on.
00:08:22 When you're at a really nice restaurant, and they come out between courses, and they clear
00:08:27 the tablecloth, they have little--
00:08:30 Yeah, I need one of those for my bed.
00:08:32 Yeah, it needs to be like four feet wide.
00:08:36 The crumb collector.
00:08:37 Yeah, you know what, that's a great thing if you're ever lying to a girl, basically,
00:08:43 or you're at a party, and you're stringing somebody along, tell them that your family
00:08:48 invented that.
00:08:49 Tell them you have a family fortune from the crumb collector.
00:08:52 Be like, yep, my great-great-grandfather invented that thing, and we are wildly wealthy
00:08:56 from that.
00:08:57 I know-- quote, unquote, "know"-- this is a story that was told to me.
00:09:00 Whether or not it's true, I don't know.
00:09:01 I know one of the great ones of that.
00:09:04 I know one of the families of the outrageous inventions why they're generationally wealthy.
00:09:09 Which one?
00:09:09 The gas--
00:09:10 Oh, yes, right.
00:09:12 The thing that hangs--
00:09:13 Which they abolished.
00:09:15 No, it's back.
00:09:16 Yeah, I--
00:09:18 It's around in Massachusetts now.
00:09:19 It was not around in Massachusetts the whole time.
00:09:20 I was going to say, I think it's state by state.
00:09:22 If you drive into Connecticut, it's back.
00:09:25 You go into New York, it's not.
00:09:27 You go to-- if you go to a fancy chain, it's not.
00:09:31 But if you go to a hole-in-the-wall place, it is.
00:09:33 So it's case by case.
00:09:35 I don't know.
00:09:35 I'm sure somebody blew up a gas station from it overflowing, but those are necessary.
00:09:40 I got to go run in and buy something or do something else or just sit in the car because
00:09:44 I'm cold.
00:09:44 I don't want to sit there and hold the fucking thing.
00:09:46 Yeah, give me a break.
00:09:48 That's one of the greatest inventions of all time.
00:09:49 All right, we got to dive into barstool business.
00:09:54 How this-- oh, how this has come full circle.
00:09:56 KFC Radio, when the day Portnoy Show ended, we decided to take the baton and run with
00:10:02 it a little bit and say, we will cover barstool news, drama, inner workings.
00:10:08 We'll do a third episode where we'll interview some people.
00:10:11 And then as time went on, people liked it, people loved it, people were asking for more
00:10:16 of it.
00:10:16 Barstool news starts to really happen.
00:10:19 We realized it's a good time to relaunch barstool radio, which me and John had always kind of
00:10:26 had in the back of our minds as a card we could play.
00:10:29 And so we revived barstool radio.
00:10:32 And within a few months, we come to learn that it is-- we've told you this before if
00:10:38 you're a KFC Radio listener, but if you're listening from barstool radio, we found out
00:10:43 that down to the day of starting barstool radio, basically, we completely cannibalized
00:10:51 this show.
00:10:52 And downloads and views were down a untenable amount.
00:10:56 There was no way I could be like, well, it's OK, we can still do both.
00:10:59 It was like, no, no, no.
00:11:00 We're going to end up with two bad shows rather than-- we're going to have no shows at the
00:11:04 end of this.
00:11:05 So we had to leave radio.
00:11:09 And I wanted to do it rather quickly.
00:11:10 I was like, I'm not going to dick around here and do another three months of this because
00:11:16 I got to get KFC Radio back on track.
00:11:18 So that's where we end.
00:11:21 And I feel like it's been a little convoluted, and I want to clear it up as far as how the
00:11:27 new iteration came to be and then got axed by Dave.
00:11:30 But there was a couple like, I think Nate and Clemmer said that they were like handed
00:11:36 the show and then they were saying they took the show.
00:11:39 I just want to make it clear how that show came to be, because when we ended, it was
00:11:45 like, should the show keep going or not?
00:11:47 And I think that if-- I'm not going to stand in the way of anybody who wants to do it.
00:11:52 And I also think that we should at least give some people a shot to carry it on, because
00:11:56 I do think Barstool is better when there is Barstool Radio.
00:11:59 My initial thought was that Tommy would want to do it.
00:12:07 Tommy didn't want to do it.
00:12:07 Tommy wants to do more scripted stuff or doesn't want to do a daily show.
00:12:13 Whatever his feeling was, I could tell he was not really fully into it.
00:12:18 And it's not a show that you can do if you're half in and half out.
00:12:22 So Tommy was out.
00:12:24 I wanted-- Roan would have been the obvious choice of one of the talented guys still around
00:12:30 in New York.
00:12:31 Roan is already having trouble keeping up with his load as is with Pat Bev and flying
00:12:38 around the country.
00:12:38 So the idea of doing a four day a week radio show was pretty much out on him.
00:12:44 That leaves the rest of the New York office.
00:12:49 With the crew that is left here, there was three people that I feel work.
00:12:57 And I don't know about their chemistry.
00:13:00 I don't know about their ability to host a daily radio show.
00:13:03 I don't know about much else other than they are talented.
00:13:07 They have made content before.
00:13:09 And they are here like every day.
00:13:11 Because that's a big part of doing it is that you come every day.
00:13:15 And that was Nate, Kelly, and Francis.
00:13:18 I called each of them individually and said, "We're not doing it, but I think you would
00:13:23 be good to be involved in Barstool Radio."
00:13:25 That was pretty much where I mostly checked out.
00:13:30 I think I called Kelly, Nate-- I don't remember if I called Francis or-- I can't remember
00:13:37 how I ended up talking to Francis, if it was before or after.
00:13:39 I think I spoke to Kelly, she spoke to Francis, then Francis called me.
00:13:42 We all had discussions about who works with who.
00:13:45 Like how they're going to gel.
00:13:47 And from the jump, it was never a very good fit.
00:13:50 It was like, Francis was worried, he's like, "My style of comedy is not really very conducive
00:13:55 with Kelly, but I think we can work on it and we can make something happen.
00:13:59 It's definitely worth giving a shot."
00:14:01 Kelly seemed gung-ho about it.
00:14:02 She was like taking the reins.
00:14:03 I told her part of the problem-- part of the-- wait, take a step back.
00:14:07 Before I talk about them individually, like as a show.
00:14:11 The show itself is a difficult show to do because as we found out, it's good when there's
00:14:16 drama and then you have to figure out a way to fill in all the other times that there's
00:14:21 not drama.
00:14:21 And at least for us, where we already have a show where we shoot the shit and talk about
00:14:27 everything, when you go do that on another show, it gets repetitive, it gets-- we're
00:14:32 not as into it, we're bored with it, we're repeating ourselves.
00:14:36 So that made it difficult to just like cover the topics of the day.
00:14:43 And then the other side of it is if you're waiting for drama, because those are the days
00:14:47 where there's like thousands of concurrent viewers and you get hundreds of thousands
00:14:51 of views, when it pops off, great, but it could be a month, it could be six months,
00:14:57 it could be a day.
00:14:57 You don't know.
00:14:58 In the very beginning of Barstool Radio, I think for like four straight weeks, we had
00:15:01 drama every day.
00:15:02 We had mean girls.
00:15:03 Yeah, then the mean girls got fired.
00:15:04 Yeah, and then it was downhill.
00:15:05 Yeah.
00:15:06 We had the mean girls, then me and Kelly were fighting, and then there's the layoffs,
00:15:10 and then Dave and Nate.
00:15:11 And like there was just something pretty much every week at least.
00:15:14 So you're either waiting for drama to happen or you're stirring up drama.
00:15:20 And in order to do that, you got to be a certain type of person that, you know, there probably
00:15:27 is enough gossip and stories and rivalries and competition and all that going on within
00:15:34 these walls that if you wanted to sit down basically every day and just pick a fight,
00:15:38 pick a scab, talk some shit, I heard rumors, what about this person versus this person,
00:15:44 you probably could do it.
00:15:45 You also then become a colossal asshole who everybody hates.
00:15:49 That's why there's really only three people that can do it or have to be involved.
00:15:58 Like when Dave and me did radio together, I think it was great because there was always
00:16:03 drama because me and Dave disagree on everything.
00:16:06 Naturally, if he says up, I say down.
00:16:08 He says, you know, left, I say right.
00:16:11 So there was always fighting and then people would like take sides.
00:16:15 So even when we were talking about current events, there was like tension because it
00:16:19 was just like, I think, you know, the Red Sox shouldn't put up the fucking nets over
00:16:24 the wall.
00:16:25 And he does.
00:16:26 And like, you know, so there was always drama and he can yell and he's a boss where I can
00:16:33 yell back and we are at each other's throats and then, you know, we just do it over and
00:16:39 over and over again.
00:16:40 But if it's not the boss, if it's me or you or literally anybody else, it becomes
00:16:47 like, why the fuck are you calling me out?
00:16:49 Why the fuck are you calling me lazy?
00:16:52 Why are you ratting on me?
00:16:53 Why are you snitching?
00:16:54 Why are you putting a light on how I didn't come to work today?
00:16:56 Why did you tell everybody that I did this or that?
00:16:59 When the boss does it, it's like, fuck, the boss caught me.
00:17:03 When a coworker does it, it's like, you're a fucking asshole.
00:17:06 So I have a question there.
00:17:07 Why did we ever do it?
00:17:10 If we know there were only three people?
00:17:13 Well, I think we learned that.
00:17:15 I thought there would be, I planned on taking a little bit more of a Dave role that I thought
00:17:22 I was up for and did not, was not up for.
00:17:26 That's fair.
00:17:26 And so that was part of it.
00:17:31 And I did think in the beginning, I was like, this is what I expected it to be like once
00:17:36 a week, once every two weeks, there was something.
00:17:38 Yeah.
00:17:38 And then in between, it's like, it's not bad.
00:17:40 It's fine.
00:17:41 And I, all this is funny because in a weird way, like the feedback I was getting was like
00:17:47 unbelievable, like the best feedback I've gotten aside.
00:17:50 I still don't understand because it was never a good show.
00:17:53 They were like for like two weeks.
00:17:54 It was a good show.
00:17:54 After that, that show sucked.
00:17:56 I don't think you, I don't think you realize that like, we're good at this.
00:18:00 Yeah.
00:18:01 But like, I, we're good at it.
00:18:03 And I know when I'm sitting on a couch and going, this is fucking boring.
00:18:06 And like a lot of the time that was a boring show.
00:18:08 No one was really talking.
00:18:09 No one was into it.
00:18:10 People would roll up five minutes after the fucking show started.
00:18:13 Well, it was not a good show.
00:18:15 Yeah.
00:18:15 We can say from the very beginning, John and I were very disappointed in Pat and Tom.
00:18:19 But it was like, I was just one of all four of us.
00:18:21 Like it wasn't just like, it was all four of us did not, it was not a good show.
00:18:25 Yeah.
00:18:25 I don't, I don't think that's true though.
00:18:27 I think there's a lot of people who disagree with that.
00:18:29 I mean, I know that the, the, from the fan point of view, if you feel that way, it's fine.
00:18:33 But my, my, uh, like experience with it and like my internet, you know, like my version
00:18:40 of the internet was all very positive all the time.
00:18:43 I guess they could say like, that's kind of what we say with commenters, like when they're
00:18:47 nice, they're wrong.
00:18:47 When they're mean, they're wrong.
00:18:48 Like sitting on that couch, those were not engaging conversations.
00:18:51 I, yeah.
00:18:53 I mean, do you think they were?
00:18:54 Were you like, we are killing it right now?
00:18:56 Uh, I mean, no, but.
00:18:58 All right.
00:18:59 So we both sat there thinking it wasn't very good.
00:19:01 So who cares what people thought?
00:19:02 No, I don't, I don't, I never walked away from it being like, that was a bad show.
00:19:08 I just like, that was a regular podcast.
00:19:09 We like, there is sometimes we'll walk out of this room and be like, we fucking nailed it.
00:19:12 How often do we do that on those couches?
00:19:14 When there was drama.
00:19:15 Which is never like, it was the first two weeks.
00:19:19 Yeah.
00:19:20 That, that is the issue is that you need to talk about the inner workings of Barstool.
00:19:23 Again, if we, if we had a show where we didn't repeat ourselves, I think it would be great
00:19:27 because we do it good here and we would go do it there.
00:19:29 Right.
00:19:31 So we were, you were hearing us do it for like the second time,
00:19:34 but it's just KFC radio in between the drama.
00:19:36 So I think it's a good show because I think this is a good show and that we were just doing it over
00:19:39 there and we're doing with a different cast of people.
00:19:42 We're doing it with callers.
00:19:42 I think people like the callers.
00:19:44 I think when the audience is responding positively, I don't know, you're doing something right.
00:19:50 If you disagree internally, like that's, that's you, but you agree to, you weren't, you weren't,
00:19:56 I was not like, this is, you know, my, my finest work, but I was very
00:19:59 encouraged by the feedback all the time.
00:20:02 Cause I had, I mean, I had like friends who like came back to like, listen to me again.
00:20:07 Like I was like my, my life became way more Barstool radio oriented than anything.
00:20:12 Cause I was getting texts.
00:20:13 I was getting calls, like people coming out of the woodwork being like, oh my God, I heard
00:20:16 about this.
00:20:17 I heard about that.
00:20:18 And I remember being like, you know, I, I've had a podcast all these years guys.
00:20:21 Right.
00:20:22 And people were like, they, they liked that.
00:20:23 It was a more like tangible, real show about real people, real things, not hypothetical
00:20:28 situations, not, you know, what would you do in this situation?
00:20:31 Like there's a person that we're talking about.
00:20:33 So I don't think it's as bad as you thought it was.
00:20:36 I think there were definitely times where we, we were frustrated with it for sure.
00:20:41 I mean, I, I, I remember Tommy loving drama and loving to be on Barstool radio.
00:20:47 And I don't think he enjoyed his experience there.
00:20:50 Pat, there were times where, you know, didn't watch survivor showed up late.
00:20:56 So that, that, uh, iteration of it was not, I don't think we were like clicking or doing
00:21:04 a great job, but I think it was a good product.
00:21:05 There was new sponsors.
00:21:06 Sales was excited about it.
00:21:08 Like there were good things about it that I think you're being harsh on.
00:21:12 I mean, I'm being a harsh, but we are in agreement.
00:21:16 Like we didn't sit on the couch and think we did good.
00:21:18 So it's bad.
00:21:19 I don't think that's true.
00:21:21 I think there's, there's, there's your, I think your painting is black and white.
00:21:24 I think there's an in-between.
00:21:24 I think that's like, that's not, it was fine.
00:21:26 And I think, I guess, I don't know.
00:21:28 I, I didn't, I, but I never, I think I thought it was bad from, like, I don't like the drama
00:21:33 either.
00:21:34 When you have the callers, when you have some running, running stories, they call in multiple
00:21:40 times, like that start sort of stuff is a very different type of radio show.
00:21:43 And that grows over time.
00:21:45 And I think would have, and I think would have been a fine radio show.
00:21:50 I think we, we could have done that forever.
00:21:52 I just don't think it was not worth the loss of this.
00:21:57 Right.
00:21:57 If, if there was, I would have done that forever if this stayed the same, or even if it was
00:22:02 like, there's a little bit of a hit, but it's like a whole new audience, a whole new genre,
00:22:06 good feedback, sales, all that shit.
00:22:09 Which to be fair, I think we should have expected too with this.
00:22:11 We should have expected the Downton.
00:22:13 I didn't expect that much.
00:22:14 That was big, but the.
00:22:15 I was, I was, I was expecting some, I did not think it would be, you know, cut in half
00:22:21 basically.
00:22:22 That's, that's crazy.
00:22:23 That's a lot, but it makes sense because it's like, you get a lot of airtime with us, you
00:22:27 know, it's like, yeah, people like, oh, even if you are like a diehard support, you're
00:22:30 like, oh, I'm supporting John and Kevin.
00:22:32 It's like, yes, but no, you know what I mean?
00:22:35 Like we need, we need this to be the main thing.
00:22:38 Because that's also the problem with Barstool Radio is it's not somebody's, it's like it
00:22:44 belongs to Barstool, you know?
00:22:47 So at the end of the day, unless, unless it like skyrocketed, then I would just stick
00:22:52 with that.
00:22:53 At the end of the day, we need this to be good because like, this is where we get judged
00:22:57 by and where we get paid off of and all that.
00:22:59 So it was like, if I have to pick between the two, I got to go back to the bread and
00:23:02 butter.
00:23:03 So, which I think was a little unfair to Barstool Radio as a whole, how quickly we left.
00:23:08 Yeah, but and I said that I was like, I can't, I don't think it was, I think it was a lot
00:23:13 unfair.
00:23:13 Like it did to, I think, I think those are problems we should have expected and foresaw
00:23:18 and not just change course immediately.
00:23:22 I think it was a lot of like, I'm in love, I'm out of love and see you later.
00:23:25 Yeah, but I don't think we had a choice.
00:23:26 No, but I think there should have been more.
00:23:29 I don't know.
00:23:31 I don't think anybody would have sat down and been like, we'll lose half our listenership
00:23:35 because of this.
00:23:35 No, but the, it though, I think we brought it back too quickly without a plan.
00:23:41 I think we left too quickly without a plan.
00:23:44 And I think it was, I don't, I do not think we handled the last six months very well.
00:23:48 Whatever, however long it's been.
00:23:50 I mean, I don't think there was another way to handle it.
00:23:52 What would you have done differently?
00:23:53 Like, how would you have done Barstool Radio?
00:23:56 I wouldn't have done Barstool Radio.
00:23:58 I think, I think we shouldn't have brought it back.
00:24:00 If we could go back, you were like, I was what we had conversations where you were like,
00:24:05 let's do it.
00:24:05 When you called me and you're like, what about Tommy?
00:24:07 I was like, that's good because we don't need a second show of us.
00:24:10 Yeah.
00:24:10 So, but I would like those conversations.
00:24:12 You were like, oh, that's good.
00:24:14 With Tommy.
00:24:14 Yeah, no, for sure.
00:24:15 A hundred percent.
00:24:16 But I would get them saying, how did we do again?
00:24:18 We shouldn't have done it.
00:24:18 Oh, well, looking back on how it happened.
00:24:20 Yes, yes, yes.
00:24:21 But like in the moment, I don't think I forced you to do anything.
00:24:24 No, no, no.
00:24:24 Okay.
00:24:25 But we shouldn't have.
00:24:25 Yeah.
00:24:26 Yeah.
00:24:27 Yeah.
00:24:27 No, I mean, knowing that.
00:24:28 Yes, of course, knowing that we lost half our listenership and the people we asked to be on it,
00:24:34 like seemingly don't really want to be on it.
00:24:35 Yeah.
00:24:36 I wish they said no up front.
00:24:37 I wish, you know, there's a million things I wish went differently.
00:24:40 But once I knew that we, I was like, I don't care about any of this anymore.
00:24:46 I have to protect what we've done.
00:24:48 So I don't care.
00:24:49 You can let it die.
00:24:50 You can pick it up.
00:24:51 But I is I'm washing my hands of it because it's not it's it's not my concern right now.
00:24:57 Like, I have to worry about this because what I've been building for the last 10 years,
00:25:00 it just got fucking whacked in half.
00:25:03 So you can do it.
00:25:05 But I'm not I'm not I told him, I was like, I want to do this now.
00:25:09 Like, I can't give you like a month.
00:25:11 I can't I can't just let KFC radio dwindle to like slowly integrate you.
00:25:18 Right.
00:25:19 So that's where I kind of was like, you guys, you are the three that I think are capable of it.
00:25:27 They it sounded like they did not want to work with Nate.
00:25:30 That was that was a mistake the entire time from I didn't I didn't have many conversations
00:25:36 with anybody.
00:25:36 I had a few taxes with Kelly, a few texts with you.
00:25:39 Nate should have been involved the entire time.
00:25:41 Yes.
00:25:41 And I said to me, and if they didn't want to work with them, then I think it should have
00:25:44 been Nate show.
00:25:45 But they I agree that.
00:25:46 So I called Nate.
00:25:48 I probably should have like talked all three of them.
00:25:52 But it's one of those things where it's like.
00:25:53 I don't know.
00:25:56 I didn't want to put people in a weird spot where if they didn't want to work with Nate,
00:26:00 and they said that to me privately, but if they were going to if I was going to put them
00:26:04 all on the spot together, it's like, I mean, that's probably should have been an episode
00:26:07 of Arceloradio.
00:26:08 But Nate is good at the drama and he's fine.
00:26:13 He's good at radio, too.
00:26:14 Yeah.
00:26:15 Like his radio show, despite without the drama and all that stuff, his Friday show, there
00:26:19 was one lull in the full hour.
00:26:20 Yeah.
00:26:21 And that was when they did like, geez, the dozen thing.
00:26:23 Aside from that, I think it was a good radio.
00:26:24 The problem with Nate is.
00:26:26 I think he has a reputation of not being good on camera.
00:26:36 Yeah.
00:26:36 And I don't think which radio isn't really it's become on camera.
00:26:40 But like radio talking traditionally is not an on camera show.
00:26:43 Now we've had Nate on before.
00:26:45 Is they here?
00:26:45 I think so.
00:26:46 I would guess he doesn't want to come on, but ask me.
00:26:49 Who else?
00:26:50 Come on.
00:26:51 I think he does have a tendency, as Dave says, to do it and love it.
00:26:58 And then when the heat is on, he he does not like that.
00:27:03 Yeah, I think he's grown past that.
00:27:05 I agree.
00:27:05 But to an extent, I reach like he's better at he's gotten better.
00:27:09 But he does have a tendency to or either either like he can't stand the heat or like we always
00:27:16 say he's killing it.
00:27:18 He's like super high.
00:27:19 And then he does something and he torpedoes.
00:27:21 He's very volatile.
00:27:22 Yes, yes.
00:27:23 But he's interesting because of all that.
00:27:28 He's an interesting part of Barstool radio.
00:27:30 A Barstool is the reason why he's part of Survivor is a reason why he is in all these
00:27:36 things as he listed.
00:27:37 You know, he's like the award show and this run down and this radio.
00:27:43 Like he is always in the mix.
00:27:44 And you do need that.
00:27:46 We were just discussing how there was the three people who could do it or more so that
00:27:51 you should have been involved from the jump.
00:27:53 And how I called the three of you basically separately being like, I think the three of
00:27:59 you are the people who work every day and can or should be involved where what happened
00:28:06 with you and them?
00:28:07 Do they say like them?
00:28:08 Wait, who's Kelly and Francis?
00:28:09 OK, they were just like, we don't want to do it with you or that's what I understand.
00:28:13 But that's what I mean, like they said that to you or you know, zero communication.
00:28:18 Yeah, no, that's what.
00:28:20 So are you taking any blame yet?
00:28:22 Have you have you taken any blame?
00:28:24 I'm explaining how I was.
00:28:26 I basically was like, I can't worry about transitioning this anymore.
00:28:31 Like I'm going I'm out.
00:28:33 I'm washing my hands of it.
00:28:34 You three are the people I think could do this.
00:28:37 And then that was it.
00:28:39 There's a lot of blame to pass.
00:28:40 Like we're doing a blame pie.
00:28:42 No, I'm not doing a blame pie.
00:28:43 I'm just OK, because like I would say you're like 12 percent to blame for what?
00:28:47 Because why?
00:28:48 Because just ending the show so abruptly and calling ten of us all on the same day and
00:28:53 being like, you have the show, you have the show, you have the show, you have the show,
00:28:55 you have the show.
00:28:56 I went down the line of people who I thought could do it.
00:28:59 There should have been.
00:29:00 And there's also a big that's part of the bigger problem here is that nobody there should
00:29:04 have been nobody takes a better.
00:29:05 And there's a lot of like hindsight 2020 here.
00:29:08 There should have been a better what's it called?
00:29:10 Like when the president hands it to the new president, that process, transition process,
00:29:14 there should have been a better one of those.
00:29:16 Sure.
00:29:16 It also.
00:29:17 Yeah, I when you talk to me and then I talk to Keegs, I was like, I don't want to host
00:29:25 the show.
00:29:25 I want to be the third or fourth Mike.
00:29:27 Right.
00:29:27 But I want to be on every day because in the history of successful talk radio shows, there
00:29:32 has never been a rotating cast.
00:29:33 Right.
00:29:34 In just the world history, there's never been one time where it's like so-and-so's on Monday
00:29:38 and so-and-so's on Tuesday.
00:29:40 It just doesn't work.
00:29:41 You need, you know, just repetition and get the you just you need it.
00:29:45 So no, there was no communication with me.
00:29:48 That's when Keegs said like that I wouldn't stop hitting her up and blowing her up.
00:29:53 Right.
00:29:53 That was before the show even started.
00:29:55 I was like, I want to be on every day and you're not telling me anything.
00:29:58 And then she's like, no, we included you in everything besides every meeting.
00:30:01 I was like, OK, well, and then they said on the show that they just didn't want me on.
00:30:07 So, yeah, that's as far as the communication goes with me and them.
00:30:10 So and that's my fault.
00:30:13 Not nothing is nothing's 100% anybody's fault.
00:30:18 There was just like bad communication across the board.
00:30:21 I do think I don't know the exact days.
00:30:25 I think you probably should have given a better like transition period, not like you're starting
00:30:30 tomorrow type of thing.
00:30:30 I know, but I said to everybody my show just got whacked in half.
00:30:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:34 No, I told everybody from the job.
00:30:35 The reason I'm doing this like this week is I was more.
00:30:38 I didn't want to do it.
00:30:39 No, no, you should have been like, that's too soon and we need to take a break or something.
00:30:43 But I told everybody up front, I'm not doing like a month of transition.
00:30:47 Yeah, and I didn't care because I was more privy to that information.
00:30:51 I don't know if they just didn't believe you or what.
00:30:54 Flat out.
00:30:55 Yeah, but I understand like I understand why you did what you did.
00:30:59 You're like, I have to make my money and the place, the thing that makes money, not the
00:31:03 silly, not the silly little rumble show, show.
00:31:07 So no, I it's nothing like that.
00:31:10 You know, like I don't think anybody's anger.
00:31:11 I'm not angry, but it's like nothing's that serious.
00:31:14 But if we're like passing out blame, you're 12%.
00:31:16 I'm like 2%.
00:31:19 And then I think you're higher than two, but in a good way.
00:31:26 When I think I think you were, you were wanting to be.
00:31:31 You were blame is is a good thing.
00:31:32 I think you made a good show and I think that created tension.
00:31:36 That's well, yeah, if there was no Nate Friday's, they just probably continue on.
00:31:41 And you know, but but you I'd like to take some of the blame just because I think a great
00:31:47 show came out of it.
00:31:47 So therefore, if you're getting blame, you're getting credit.
00:31:51 Yeah, I felt like I felt like, yo, honestly, the only thing that would get Minahan, Whitney
00:31:57 and Dave to do a daily show would be.
00:32:00 I don't know that it's daily.
00:32:01 It's once a week.
00:32:02 Oh, once a week daily.
00:32:03 Are you insane?
00:32:04 Well, that's why I was like, I couldn't believe when I he was telling me that it's back.
00:32:07 I was like, no way that last week.
00:32:10 I wasn't sure if it was once a week.
00:32:11 I knew it wasn't daily.
00:32:12 I just saw Dave to be like radio slash.
00:32:15 I I saved the company and also Rico is on suicide watch.
00:32:21 So I mean, it's going to because they only all three of them know one person, two people,
00:32:26 Jeff Delo and Rico Bosco.
00:32:28 It's the only people like that they know.
00:32:31 And so and, you know, Dave in the Rico, they're like a fight forever type of thing.
00:32:37 It's like, yeah, he's in hell right now.
00:32:40 Are you going to continue your show?
00:32:41 That's also there's also Barstool radio like I don't think that what, you know, Dave, whatever
00:32:50 Dave does is basically Barstool.
00:32:51 So with him, it's semantics.
00:32:53 But I think that like the Dave Minahan Whitney once a week thing should almost be its own
00:33:00 thing.
00:33:00 And if there's a Nate Dog Friday, it could be a Nate at night or whatever.
00:33:05 It's just about signing a name to it, basically.
00:33:08 Yeah, we're brain.
00:33:08 And if you're not going to do what I'm brainstorming.
00:33:11 Yeah, I think there's definitely space for me to do something.
00:33:14 I felt good about the Friday show.
00:33:16 It did triple the viewers of the Monday through Thursday show.
00:33:19 Oh, you check that and you do that.
00:33:21 You do that.
00:33:22 So I'll be honest.
00:33:23 I did.
00:33:23 No, no, this is not bullshit.
00:33:25 I never because I don't want to look at like YouTube chat and go down that rabbit hole.
00:33:29 Someone tweeted me that and I just ran with it.
00:33:31 I really have no idea if it's true.
00:33:34 I say this, though, you can fall into as we did when Barstool radio is rocking.
00:33:40 The numbers are huge.
00:33:41 So you had a very what sucks is I gave them such a blueprint to work with.
00:33:49 And like me and Ohio Tate, who I'm not on his side, but I suck.
00:33:54 That was a bullshit thing because I don't think anyone's ever questioned Kelly's work.
00:33:57 Yeah, that was weird.
00:33:58 No, weird.
00:33:59 And it's also that's why that's she's one of the reasons she's there's very few people here who
00:34:03 like come to work every day and say yes when you when you say, do you want to do something?
00:34:07 So when there's you look around and it's like, these are the only people who do work.
00:34:11 And Kelly's one of them.
00:34:12 So when it comes down to it, though, I will say.
00:34:15 Being like, I can't come to work on Friday, whenever that's a whole nother.
00:34:18 And then kind of getting caught in a lie that said that you blog on Fridays is tough.
00:34:22 But that should have never happened.
00:34:25 Because Kelly was never a top of list of like, I've never went when it doesn't work down to it.
00:34:30 She she's tried everything.
00:34:32 She's been on everything.
00:34:33 She says yes to everything.
00:34:34 There's a reason why she's even in this conversation.
00:34:37 When they didn't talk about it on Monday, even if me or Pat or Tommy, who was in there,
00:34:44 said something, it would have just been the next thing.
00:34:47 You know, like they it was never going to work because they weren't willing.
00:34:51 You want to be in the fight and in the mud and do Barstool radio until
00:34:57 one episode of Nate on Friday.
00:34:59 And then you're like, well, maybe this isn't for me.
00:35:01 Well, listen, there's a difference between being in the mud and going up against the dog.
00:35:04 Yeah.
00:35:05 And I mean, Francis is obviously smart enough, good enough, talented enough
00:35:09 to like, dismember me limb by limb.
00:35:12 But he's he's open about this.
00:35:14 I'm not like putting words in his mouth or saying anything he hasn't said publicly.
00:35:17 Like he hates it.
00:35:18 Like he he doesn't.
00:35:19 I had that.
00:35:20 He doesn't sleep at night.
00:35:21 Yeah.
00:35:22 Like and I what I did on Friday was, you know, what Dave pays me to do.
00:35:27 And I put at the same time the whole time.
00:35:29 I'm like, this is so good for them because now people have to tune in on Monday to hear
00:35:33 their response.
00:35:34 This is exactly what this should be.
00:35:36 Right.
00:35:37 It works perfectly.
00:35:38 They can spend the first 15 minutes.
00:35:40 It's hard to do a week like a.
00:35:42 They had you waiting till Friday to say things.
00:35:45 But no, it was even better because like they have all the leverage.
00:35:48 They have all the leverage.
00:35:49 They have the tension.
00:35:50 The buildup was I mean, when I was here Friday and I've walked by the I just like I'm like
00:35:53 walked in head to my phone, kind of like walk by the gambling cave and like didn't register
00:36:00 right away.
00:36:00 I got a few steps past it.
00:36:01 I was like, is it like a soccer game that I didn't know about?
00:36:03 And I looked back and it was just everyone in there getting ready for Nate Dog.
00:36:10 Right.
00:36:10 Yeah.
00:36:11 So there is something there, bro.
00:36:12 I really and always have been, brother.
00:36:15 I want to say this like there should not be any anything.
00:36:22 There should not be any vibe of like, let's not do at this office.
00:36:26 We should be doing you know what I mean?
00:36:28 Of course.
00:36:28 Like if there and listen, maybe it was because of the drama and it was a perfect storm and
00:36:35 Nate Dog Fridays doesn't work.
00:36:36 But like you should try it.
00:36:37 Don't let it die.
00:36:39 What?
00:36:39 Whatever.
00:36:42 Yeah.
00:36:42 The blame pie.
00:36:44 Where's Dante on that?
00:36:45 How much is slice of blame pie?
00:36:48 Dude, he's my favorite person in the entire universe.
00:36:52 He's so funny.
00:36:53 Every you see that, Donte texted Nate.
00:36:56 What the fuck radio got canceled because of us.
00:36:58 He probably he thought he said he did say he wants to behead the mayor of Chicago.
00:37:08 When you did you say he's the number one unhinged?
00:37:10 I didn't say John.
00:37:12 John Ridge said I agree.
00:37:13 I've probably said it before.
00:37:14 You said in that moment that was John.
00:37:16 Right.
00:37:17 I completely agree in the roster.
00:37:18 You know, we put like the minute hands at the top and Rico's and stuff, but it's the
00:37:22 Don or at least most delusional.
00:37:25 Yeah, like I don't know if he's I did.
00:37:28 I texted this to Nate last night.
00:37:30 Last night, Dante, this might be his most delusional thing.
00:37:34 Dante retweeted a quote from the Daily Stoic.
00:37:41 Dante, this is I have the screen.
00:37:43 John says Dante reposted.
00:37:44 The quote is it's possible, Marcus Aurelius said to not have an opinion.
00:37:49 You don't have to turn this into something.
00:37:50 Oh, my God.
00:37:52 He reminds himself.
00:37:53 You don't have this.
00:37:54 Let's upset you.
00:37:55 You don't have to think something about everything retweeted by Dante.
00:37:58 The dog.
00:37:59 Now he's the best.
00:37:59 Dude.
00:38:00 Yeah, he always used to tweet the secret.
00:38:02 The secret.
00:38:02 That's why I was in the.
00:38:03 So that's why I was saying I was like, real Dante heads know that he retweets the Daily
00:38:07 Stoic every day.
00:38:08 He retweeted the secret, because that's why I added that.
00:38:10 That was my secret being the book.
00:38:12 That's like the five.
00:38:13 What he usually does is after he retweets it, he then screenshots it and puts it on his
00:38:17 Instagram story.
00:38:18 So I see it in both places.
00:38:20 I love Dante.
00:38:21 I was going to say you guys have a Dante.
00:38:23 I'm like an AWL of Dante content.
00:38:26 Like, I love everything he does.
00:38:29 Why did he thought it was him?
00:38:30 Yeah.
00:38:31 Well, he works weird hours.
00:38:33 So he was so many people, by the way, thought like who don't keep up with all the inner
00:38:39 workings.
00:38:40 Just hearing that parcel radio canceled.
00:38:42 I got text last night.
00:38:42 What do you do?
00:38:43 Like, why is Dave mad at you?
00:38:45 I was like, man, me, bro.
00:38:46 Not me.
00:38:46 It is.
00:38:48 It's good that they're doing this show.
00:38:50 Whitney, Kirk and Dave.
00:38:52 It's bad for Smitty.
00:38:54 It's bad for me.
00:38:55 It's bad for Rico.
00:38:56 I think it's bad for you.
00:38:57 It is not.
00:38:58 Well, I mean, maybe I'm saying professionally, it's not bad for you personally.
00:39:02 If you think if it stresses you out, that's fine.
00:39:04 I one idea I have is I might just fact check it after every episode.
00:39:09 Yes, that's what I mean.
00:39:10 Like, I'm going to do Nate Dog Fridays.
00:39:12 Then you were going to do for Kelly and Francis with those three.
00:39:15 Look, you know, funny would be you fucking like doing the same shtick, but with them,
00:39:20 this just stays in this room.
00:39:23 Okay, nobody's listening.
00:39:25 Let's pre record on Thursdays and play it on Friday.
00:39:28 Working Fridays is off.
00:39:29 They had to put in his earrings in the morning.
00:39:35 You ever slept with Nate?
00:39:38 He gets not one, but two earrings.
00:39:39 You know he's in his bag.
00:39:41 This is what happened is Pat, the gay one, he said that he would come to the bar if I
00:39:46 wore my earrings.
00:39:47 This is a weird.
00:39:48 This is a weird.
00:39:49 And I was like, no, I was like, all right, that sounds that's a good plan.
00:39:52 And then he didn't come to the bar.
00:39:53 But then I was like feeling myself in the ears.
00:39:55 I like the way they look.
00:39:57 It's so you.
00:39:58 It's so you.
00:39:58 Yeah, you know what I really think?
00:40:00 I really think there was a time where you were bad on like podcast or video.
00:40:06 Okay, that was like.
00:40:07 12 years ago.
00:40:10 Can I tell a story about that?
00:40:11 Yeah, you remember a lot.
00:40:13 You might remember it was probably like my third month at bar stool.
00:40:16 It couldn't have been more than a year.
00:40:18 And you were doing some show.
00:40:21 I don't know, like a baseball show.
00:40:24 And you had me on and you pretended your Internet didn't work because I was so bad on it.
00:40:29 You're like, yeah, Internet just shit out.
00:40:31 I've done that to people before, but I don't know if I did.
00:40:33 It was so early.
00:40:34 It was 2016 or something.
00:40:35 2014.
00:40:36 It was so early.
00:40:37 And we didn't record it or I said it.
00:40:39 We didn't even do it.
00:40:40 You stopped it like six minutes in.
00:40:42 You're like, yeah, my Internet.
00:40:43 Could be possible, but I know I can tell you the people I've done that, too.
00:40:47 And I don't want to sit in on this couch.
00:40:49 I don't know if that was you.
00:40:51 I don't know.
00:40:52 Like, there is a possibility.
00:40:53 Your Internet never got fixed and we never re-recorded it.
00:40:56 But I think when Dave, when Dave, you know, it's tough with Dave because whatever you were in 2010
00:41:07 is what you are to this day.
00:41:09 Oh, yeah.
00:41:10 So like you can't change his opinion on that.
00:41:13 Oh, never.
00:41:14 He still does the same laundry list of things that he's been saying for eight years.
00:41:18 He is right about that.
00:41:19 You will you go in guns blazing and then you're like, oh, fuck.
00:41:26 When when shit gets crazy, that's you still do that to an extent.
00:41:30 Not not not in the way he says it.
00:41:32 Not well, but because he's talking about when you would do it like 10 years ago.
00:41:36 Yeah, he's talking about one specific episode when I was like,
00:41:40 hell, a major depressed and I was like, I need to take a step back or I'm going to like,
00:41:45 write KMS and but that was literally a major nine, 10 years ago.
00:41:51 It's the earrings.
00:41:52 I was going to shoot.
00:41:53 Yeah, I said it's the shitty tattoos.
00:41:56 I'm really like I've really come into like who I've been to yourself.
00:41:59 Exactly.
00:42:00 That's what I mean, though.
00:42:01 There's you are you are you've you've you've rounded into the final form of the dog.
00:42:06 Yeah, and you're not completely wrong, like even after Friday,
00:42:11 like I knew Friday went well and like it was everything was supposed to be.
00:42:14 Good show.
00:42:15 But then like that decompression period when you're like, oh, my God,
00:42:19 now I have to deal with all the aftermath.
00:42:21 That's so.
00:42:22 But like, that's the job.
00:42:23 Yeah, I do it the next day and the next day and the next day and the next day and the next day.
00:42:27 And the most adult thing I ever did because I was sitting there reading all my mentions
00:42:31 getting really sad.
00:42:31 I was like, I just don't have to check my mentions and I didn't check them till Monday.
00:42:35 And it was the best thing I ever did.
00:42:36 I don't think people get that, that like it's it's amazing, right?
00:42:41 So my dad just fucking discovered water last year.
00:42:43 Yeah, you're drinking water.
00:42:45 It's good for you.
00:42:45 Yeah, no shit.
00:42:46 Yeah, like, yeah, that's why you're like a guy who I'm the me.
00:42:52 I'm the meme of the guy on the bike who sticks the stick into the wheel.
00:42:55 And then he's like, how did that happen?
00:42:57 You're like your last buddy to get a job where he's like, dude, wake it up in the morning.
00:43:01 Socks.
00:43:02 Like, yeah, it fucking does, dude.
00:43:03 That's the the the other problem with Barstow Radio is like
00:43:10 even when the good times of numbers are awful, like life wise,
00:43:18 like those even those episodes where the viewers are loving it,
00:43:22 you're tense on the couch, you're nervous, you're fighting, you have to defend yourself.
00:43:25 You're and that's why I get why, for instance, doesn't like it and doesn't want to do it.
00:43:29 But then like, yes, like that, because you don't want to say no,
00:43:36 you don't want to say no to an opportunity.
00:43:38 Because then if it was of Dave here, as you said, no,
00:43:40 no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:43:41 I made that very clear.
00:43:42 I feel like I don't think Dave I told everybody that in my conversation with Dave
00:43:47 that I was having about my contract, he does not care about Barstow Radio,
00:43:51 did not care about like the New York office.
00:43:53 He was just like, you got to do what you got to do.
00:43:55 So I said to them, like, at least I hope maybe, you know, I don't know if I ever like explicitly
00:44:01 was like, you do not like Dave will not care.
00:44:03 But I made it I made it more of a thing of like, I think people should you should try to do this.
00:44:09 And then they were like talking about changing the name and changing the time.
00:44:12 And I did say to them, if it's new people in a new name, it's a new show.
00:44:16 So I think you should probably just leave some of it alone.
00:44:20 It probably.
00:44:21 But then that's where I was like, but I'm not going to tell I'm not going to tell people
00:44:24 what to do, how to do it.
00:44:25 I was like, that's that's where I'm out on.
00:44:28 That's another one.
00:44:29 Those hindsight things.
00:44:30 It probably should have had a new name just so they weren't so.
00:44:33 No, but it can't.
00:44:34 Cornered.
00:44:35 No, Barstow Radio has.
00:44:36 But there's if there was going to be.
00:44:37 Why wait, wait, wait, wait, why?
00:44:39 Why?
00:44:39 Because then it should be a different show.
00:44:40 It should be called it should have been a different.
00:44:42 Yes, it should have been.
00:44:42 Well, but I don't know.
00:44:43 But then we're not.
00:44:44 Then it's like you then then go plan that on your own terms and don't take it over in a day.
00:44:47 Like we we just talked about.
00:44:49 Like if you're going to change the name, don't do the show.
00:44:54 Right.
00:44:54 Because I don't think anyone's like Frank Kelly and friends need to show.
00:44:57 Right.
00:44:57 So why would you create now?
00:44:58 Now we can open a whole nother conversation is they thought that they like we can get into that,
00:45:05 too, like the way how condescending they were towards me and how they thought they were like
00:45:08 this beacon of radio talent.
00:45:10 Are they here?
00:45:11 I don't want all that.
00:45:11 Yeah, I know.
00:45:12 I want to talk about that.
00:45:12 Yeah, no, but that's why I didn't say until just now, but they thought that this show was going to
00:45:17 be a smashing, smashing success.
00:45:19 And then when it wasn't, that's when it all started, like deteriorating.
00:45:23 Yeah, I think that the it's actually ends up the the misgivings I had about that show
00:45:28 where Kelly and Francis being to.
00:45:31 They're characters or partly everyone's kind of characters, partly true or only true characters
00:45:37 that they've worked on building, which is elite, higher class, little high and mighty people.
00:45:44 And I think that that was a concern of mine when I was like, I don't know, it seems like a
00:45:50 duo that like it seems like they could get that way.
00:45:53 And it got that way pretty quickly.
00:45:54 And it's kind of funny that it did end up getting canceled while they talk about our business.
00:45:59 Yes, so yesterday we're all sitting around like my desk and like everybody's like very calm and
00:46:03 just like talking through it.
00:46:04 And Francis just has so funny.
00:46:06 He has his legs like kicked up on his desk and he's not doing a bit.
00:46:09 He's just reading a fine wine magazine, just flipping through the pages.
00:46:13 And it's like I it's it was.
00:46:16 Yeah, it's there.
00:46:17 They've been successful creating those personas.
00:46:20 It's like it's the or as they want and they've earned and they're good at.
00:46:23 I think the two of them together on a daily radio show.
00:46:26 I didn't I didn't think was I don't I didn't think they'd want to do what radio is.
00:46:32 Yeah, and and I don't think anyone was like, and I feel that they could have done 10 to 15
00:46:38 minutes about Friday's thing and then gone on to fine art and Taylor and all that stuff.
00:46:44 It just it could have done one minute, bro.
00:46:46 They just you could have said, oh, I'll take is a nobody and I will not give him a second of my
00:46:53 airways like I would not agree with that angle.
00:46:56 But like you did that, that you could say that's what that's what I do.
00:47:01 Pat said it best is even if you don't want to talk about it, you just have to know the
00:47:05 people watching and listening want to hear you talk about it.
00:47:08 You just have to give them what they want because that's also a producer thing.
00:47:11 At Barstool, we have producers are very like technical.
00:47:15 It's like they record and edit and post and shit.
00:47:18 And then like the rest of the world, producers are like the ones who call the shots content
00:47:21 lives.
00:47:22 Yeah, like here's, you know, the rundown of what we're talking about.
00:47:24 And then there's like a fight with the talent.
00:47:26 I don't want to blame the producer, though, because that's just not how it works here.
00:47:29 Like it's different here.
00:47:30 But yeah, I'm not.
00:47:31 I put very, very, very little, very little, almost zero, almost 0.5 percent, 1 percent,
00:47:39 like such a zero.
00:47:41 Yeah, like they're the ones coming from the old new whatever Barstool radio where it's
00:47:47 like I blame me for not.
00:47:49 I guess all you can do is give the people the sheet going in on the sheet.
00:47:52 Like we were all sitting there like, should we go in there?
00:47:55 Should we go in there?
00:47:55 Should we go in there?
00:47:56 Pat was like, I'm on tomorrow.
00:47:58 I'll bring it up tomorrow.
00:47:59 Like that was how did you know?
00:48:00 I thought that was fair.
00:48:00 He's like, well, that's the thing.
00:48:03 It's like let them do their show and then tomorrow will be fireworks when Pat's on it.
00:48:07 I thought that was fair.
00:48:08 Barstool radio is I don't think a lot of people fucked up.
00:48:12 We were describing it as like it's not one person's thing.
00:48:16 It's like.
00:48:16 You know, nobody has ownership over the show, you know what I mean?
00:48:20 Yeah.
00:48:20 So it's just there to be.
00:48:21 But that's also like kind of an idea.
00:48:24 Yeah.
00:48:24 Like I know when Kelly and Francis got control, I was like, that's good.
00:48:29 Because what I always wanted when we were doing Barstool radio is people to come in
00:48:32 and just do a talk.
00:48:33 And as soon as they it was their show, I did not feel welcome.
00:48:36 Right.
00:48:37 And then nothing to do with them.
00:48:38 Right.
00:48:38 That was not there.
00:48:39 That's just like how.
00:48:40 It's also a respect thing.
00:48:43 Like it's a respect thing.
00:48:44 It's their show.
00:48:45 Yeah.
00:48:45 Like I didn't want to interrupt their show.
00:48:47 I was like.
00:48:47 She had that clip when she was like, I'm not going to beg you to come in.
00:48:51 I was like, you usually invite people onto your show.
00:48:54 And I'd heard that criticism when I was on Barstool radio.
00:48:58 And I was like, well, you know, I've said it a million times.
00:48:59 Just come on.
00:49:00 So just don't do.
00:49:00 And then when the shoe was on the other foot, I could I couldn't do it.
00:49:03 What do you feel like I'm breaking in?
00:49:07 You almost need like a host.
00:49:09 Who you need like a moderator and that's the only constant.
00:49:14 And then they call in people, you know what I mean?
00:49:16 Because that way there's no like I did feel like I'm not going to.
00:49:19 I didn't want to go in there and be like, what the fuck are you guys doing?
00:49:24 Not talking about this because it's like I just passed it to you and then I'm going to
00:49:29 go in there and fucking rail on it.
00:49:30 But that's what it should be.
00:49:31 That show should be.
00:49:32 You're talking about what's going on at Barstool.
00:49:35 You're being honest about it.
00:49:36 You talk about it in the open.
00:49:38 You throw punches and then you move on.
00:49:40 It's just that you can't move on.
00:49:42 Dave can move on.
00:49:43 Many can move on.
00:49:43 People here can't move on because we're all friends or enemies or.
00:49:46 Co-workers or whatever.
00:49:48 John also said it best.
00:49:49 If that's not the show they wanted to do, it's fine.
00:49:52 Like then that's not the show for them.
00:49:53 And I think we've said it like if it wasn't yesterday.
00:50:00 Let's say I did run in there.
00:50:01 Pat ran in there, whatever.
00:50:02 Yelling would have happened, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:50:05 It just would have been the next thing.
00:50:06 You know, like if they just really if their hearts weren't in where they wanted it to be.
00:50:12 So it's almost like.
00:50:13 Which is exactly what happened to us.
00:50:15 It's just like we didn't want to do a show that got very unlucky.
00:50:18 It was during like a quiet barstool drama period for like like nothing happened.
00:50:23 We had we had it came in so hot and then yeah, and then it went like mean girls and then nothing
00:50:27 could.
00:50:28 That's the problem with the show is it could be a month.
00:50:30 It could be six months.
00:50:31 I will say when more shit happens here, there's more drama.
00:50:35 There's also there's not a lot going on here like Dave did.
00:50:39 I don't even know the word chastised like that.
00:50:42 Yell at them, but like reprimand a little like you guys have to be more prepared.
00:50:45 Honestly, I told John that when he when he was like when I was on yesterday, you guys were bad.
00:50:51 I was like, this is over.
00:50:52 Yeah, but it's like that sort of.
00:50:54 And that's why I thought they would see about your show.
00:50:57 It's a I've been listening to talk radio my whole life.
00:50:59 Like I like growing up, love talk radio, like loved it.
00:51:02 Everything about it.
00:51:03 Listen to it night and day to fill an hour.
00:51:06 It's not like rocket science.
00:51:08 It's like topic, your opinion on topic calls on topic.
00:51:11 Next topic, you can fill an hour very, very easily doing that story from the weekend.
00:51:15 Have you ever had a story like that calls about that story?
00:51:18 Next topic.
00:51:19 Very easy recurring calls.
00:51:20 Eventually you have running themes.
00:51:21 That group was not funny enough, talent enough, good enough at radio yet.
00:51:28 Not saying they couldn't be yet to do what the yak does or whatever and fill an hour plus
00:51:34 just shooting the shit.
00:51:35 They didn't have that quality.
00:51:38 And it's not.
00:51:40 It's hard.
00:51:40 There's a reason Howard Stern is Howard Stern and everybody else is everybody else.
00:51:44 And it's like, but you know what?
00:51:46 I can name two people who have built an empire doing inner their universe drama.
00:51:52 Stern and Dave.
00:51:54 And to say I don't want to do that when Dave's telling you to do that.
00:51:58 Goodbye.
00:51:59 Well, it's just you say that you do that because Dave did.
00:52:04 Does Dave tell you like, I mean, yeah, he doesn't tell anybody anything.
00:52:07 Well, but he has said like, I want you to be the spider monkey.
00:52:11 He has said that, right?
00:52:13 He said that all the time.
00:52:14 But does he does he do that like privately, like in like contract?
00:52:17 Oh God, no, no, no, no.
00:52:19 So that's just I mean, because you when you say that, I was always like, does he actually
00:52:22 tell him to do it or you're just so you're saying I understand what Dave wants from me.
00:52:27 I, if you watch my character or whatever you want to call it, I have picked my spider
00:52:32 monkey spots like pretty well.
00:52:35 Yeah, like I know Dave wants it all the time.
00:52:38 I think that's kind of silly.
00:52:40 Like you got to have some weight to it, some gravitas.
00:52:43 But when when it's the mask, it's your ass like and it were and I'm I'm way I mean, obviously
00:52:50 I'm way better now at everything than I was when I started like mentally like, you know,
00:52:56 playing into the role, whatever you want to call it.
00:52:58 And now it's like way more fun and I can handle it way better now.
00:53:03 Right.
00:53:03 Also.
00:53:04 But could you?
00:53:05 Well, that's the thing.
00:53:06 Like, yes, so I wouldn't.
00:53:08 So Kevin, I wouldn't have done Friday if I wasn't ready for Francis to come back at
00:53:15 me 10 times harder because I know he can and he just didn't.
00:53:18 And that's when I was like, that's when we all feel like Francis is making a choice to
00:53:22 like, not.
00:53:24 Yeah, but but I wouldn't have done Friday if I wasn't mentally ready for him to like,
00:53:29 rip me limb by limb.
00:53:33 So.
00:53:33 So also you getting mad at me that I didn't go hard enough at you at the 20th anniversary
00:53:42 party.
00:53:43 All I do know, that's it.
00:53:44 I was OK.
00:53:45 You went out of this.
00:53:46 I was like, I was like, I have a I'm writing a whole section for you.
00:53:49 There was enough, you know, references and illusions and pictures and old videos of my
00:53:55 shit that.
00:53:55 Oh, yeah, that was that was that was that was ridiculous.
00:53:58 I do not need that.
00:53:59 He wanted it harder.
00:54:00 I was I was grateful.
00:54:01 I think I said, thank you.
00:54:03 I'll check the tape on that.
00:54:04 But yeah, if we do it again, I have a couple written already.
00:54:08 Just saying so.
00:54:10 What's that?
00:54:12 That's a good.
00:54:13 OK, where it's also where does Nick go from here?
00:54:17 What's the move?
00:54:18 Wherever the tides take me, brother.
00:54:20 You know, it's you can't I mean, we got a Friday coming.
00:54:23 We got a Friday and you know what, three days.
00:54:25 What what are we?
00:54:27 Yeah, the plan was to respond to what they did Monday through Thursday, you know, maybe
00:54:34 like a monologue mask on whatever.
00:54:36 And then we were in New Gentleman's Friday with large.
00:54:38 I'm disappointed that we're not drinking on Friday now.
00:54:42 Well, you could do it.
00:54:43 Yeah, no, I have to see if like what's possible, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
00:54:46 because I don't I don't think it'll be on like the main Barstool channel.
00:54:49 I don't have to talk to Dave even that.
00:54:51 So so what?
00:54:52 No, we might like record.
00:54:53 I'm saying, yeah, make a new, you know.
00:54:55 Yeah, yeah, like we got to be you have to do shit here.
00:54:57 Yeah, right.
00:54:58 Like we're in the lab.
00:54:59 Yeah, we're in the law.
00:55:00 I think that if I think if that's the other thing, too, if a lot of I just got to push
00:55:05 me to work Friday so hard, like it doesn't have to be Friday, though.
00:55:08 Doesn't have to be Friday.
00:55:09 Pick a different day.
00:55:10 I know I pick work on Monday through Thursday.
00:55:12 I'm not working Friday for a reason, too.
00:55:14 I think I'm in a different spot than some of these people who are not working on Fridays.
00:55:17 But you can do whatever the fuck you want.
00:55:19 Just do something.
00:55:19 No, I agree.
00:55:20 I agree.
00:55:20 I'm not.
00:55:21 If there was did they reply, by the way, about coming in here?
00:55:24 What?
00:55:25 They didn't respond.
00:55:26 That's fine.
00:55:28 I think that's expected.
00:55:29 If there was more shit going on, too, I think there would be more.
00:55:36 More barstool things to talk about, like when it's when you're stirring up some drama, that's
00:55:43 like I heard that Nate fucking hates Francis, whatever.
00:55:48 That's shit where people are like, hey, man, fuck you.
00:55:51 Like you're making my life harder.
00:55:52 This is this sucks, right?
00:55:54 When it's like we were doing a video together and you cheated in the game or you fucked
00:55:59 me in the game and you're fighting over that shit.
00:56:02 It's like there's drama and tension and it's entertaining, but it's not like you're talking
00:56:07 about my personal life.
00:56:08 You're talking about my work ethic.
00:56:09 You're calling me out to the boss.
00:56:10 OK, just to make it clear, we're not doing that shit.
00:56:13 This all is because they would not stop talking about me.
00:56:16 I it was all I'm not even talking about you guys.
00:56:19 OK, I'm just saying in general, like even today, we're going to do this draft and I
00:56:22 can like nobody cares, nobody wants to do it.
00:56:24 I almost want to call the whole thing off because I'm just like, I'm done.
00:56:27 I've done this.
00:56:29 I've done my job here.
00:56:32 We've been doing this forever.
00:56:34 If anything, I think people should look at me as like not that talented.
00:56:36 I'm not that likable.
00:56:38 And somehow I've made fucking a lot of money and had a long career doing this.
00:56:41 So maybe listen to me or come to me or let's do something together.
00:56:45 And nobody does anything and nobody fucking cares.
00:56:48 And I'm like dragging it out of them.
00:56:51 Who's annoying you the most?
00:56:52 It's not even named names.
00:56:55 No.
00:56:55 Oh, yeah.
00:56:56 Oh, I'll go get the mask.
00:56:57 You want the mask?
00:56:58 Well, what if we just did that?
00:57:00 We brought the mask in and you have like immunity when you wear the mask.
00:57:04 Great idea.
00:57:05 But that would be great if the office agreed like like those talking sticks.
00:57:08 Yeah, it's the the NAID dog mask.
00:57:10 You can say whatever you want when you got the mask on.
00:57:12 You need like Festivus.
00:57:13 You want me to go get it for you?
00:57:14 I want to hear names.
00:57:15 I want to hear who's not worth it.
00:57:16 It's like I don't care.
00:57:17 Go don't do work.
00:57:19 I don't care.
00:57:20 Like I did care.
00:57:21 I wanted to try.
00:57:22 It's clearly going to be impossible or very, very unlikely that it works.
00:57:27 So that's always kind of been an issue, right?
00:57:30 Is I think it's hard.
00:57:32 I think it's hard when there's no boss and there's no rules, but there's no.
00:57:40 That's like when you asked if Dave's ever like told me to like,
00:57:43 Dave doesn't tell anybody.
00:57:44 I always think it either comes down to you work for two reasons.
00:57:47 Pretty much in any job, I would imagine.
00:57:50 Your boss tells you to and you're afraid to get fired or you want it and you go do it.
00:57:53 Yeah.
00:57:54 And I think people like us, we wanted it.
00:57:56 Dave never told us to do anything.
00:57:57 We did it.
00:57:58 We like it to an extent.
00:58:00 It becomes work, but you like it still or you find something new that you like, you know?
00:58:03 But if you come here just being like, I'm only going to do whatever I have to do to get a paycheck.
00:58:10 And then like the guy who's really writing the paychecks is fucking chilling in Miami.
00:58:13 It's like, I'm going to come and go as I please or do whatever.
00:58:17 And I'm trying new things or at least encouraging things.
00:58:22 I think a lot of the people here work.
00:58:24 I think most of the people here in the who come to the office, people I see every day, I think work.
00:58:30 Yeah.
00:58:31 There aren't like community things, but everyone out there, right?
00:58:37 Like, like, that's why I wanted him to name names that like.
00:58:41 It's not that they don't work.
00:58:42 It's it's like, what is the definition of work?
00:58:45 Like you write a couple of blogs like I mean, I don't know.
00:58:48 We there were there's a long it was a long time of like writing blogs, doing multiple podcasts,
00:58:54 doing rundowns for me like I we did a lot, a lot.
00:58:58 Hosting survivor after shows.
00:59:00 That's a big one.
00:59:00 All of these things like there was a lot of that tickle you, John.
00:59:05 He is good at it.
00:59:09 Dog for a reason.
00:59:12 But I see a fucking slope.
00:59:14 It's awful.
00:59:14 It's not personal.
00:59:18 It's just funny.
00:59:19 And that is the convo me and Francis.
00:59:21 Oh, he tried to Jedi mind trick me so hard with his like Harvard intellect, like trying to get
00:59:26 because he knew he knew the wrath was coming.
00:59:29 And I was like, yeah, this is pre yeah, pre Friday.
00:59:31 I was like, yeah, the wrath is coming.
00:59:33 Like, this is what we're paid to do.
00:59:35 And he was like, well, just don't like bring up this.
00:59:37 I was like, dude, like, I'm not going to like do any of that.
00:59:39 Like, you know, like super personal.
00:59:40 I was like, of course not, dude.
00:59:41 That's I think if people like understood that, it would go.
00:59:44 But here's the thing.
00:59:45 We agreed that anything that happens in those glass walls of radio is fair game entertainment.
00:59:51 And then I did mine.
00:59:53 And I think people can say that.
00:59:55 And then people can't.
00:59:57 But I guess that's not a broader scope of this whole conversation we're having is like we've
01:00:01 always been this gray area of like we're half wrestling half for a life, but we're wrestling
01:00:05 until until I'm not.
01:00:07 And we've been having this exact back and forth forever and will continue to have it
01:00:11 forever.
01:00:11 But that's why.
01:00:12 So there's the three people.
01:00:13 I love the gray area.
01:00:14 There's Dave, who's the boss.
01:00:16 So people you're not friends with the boss.
01:00:18 The boss is the boss.
01:00:19 And you everybody loves Dave because he gave the opportunity and the money and all that
01:00:23 shit.
01:00:23 And then if it comes with like he shoes you out on radio, that's just how it happens.
01:00:28 Kirk, who's a certified crazy person and also being removed, he like doesn't give a fuck
01:00:33 about older and removed.
01:00:34 He doesn't give a fuck about any of this shit.
01:00:36 And then the dog who doesn't really you don't really hold back either, but you kind of do
01:00:42 the kind of you go further than the I live in the most gray area ever where I often don't
01:00:48 know.
01:00:48 But your gray is just a little bit darker.
01:00:50 Yeah, you go towards the black side.
01:00:52 You start to get dark in there.
01:00:55 But yeah, no, for sure, for sure, for sure.
01:00:58 Because you'll be like, yo, you fucking suck or you're a fucking lazy like you called out
01:01:02 a lot of people that most people won't.
01:01:04 And that's why you should have been involved from the job.
01:01:06 Agreed.
01:01:07 And they thought that it was I was beneath them and not talented and I had not earned
01:01:12 the right to talk into a microphone.
01:01:15 Right.
01:01:15 And that that that is their words, not mine.
01:01:18 Right.
01:01:18 And that's crazy because if anything.
01:01:20 You know, there was it's not like any of any of the people were like, I've done this before
01:01:28 or like, you know, I've earned it over you.
01:01:31 It was all just like somebody try to run with it.
01:01:34 Yeah, I know.
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01:03:22 I think it is an option to just stay out of it.
01:03:26 I get that.
01:03:26 But I'm not.
01:03:27 The problem with that is that it leaves Kelly high and dry.
01:03:31 And I am.
01:03:31 I do get that feeling too.
01:03:32 I will say right off the bat that the responsibility for the failure of
01:03:37 Barstool Radio in our iteration is at least 50 percent mine, if not more.
01:03:44 When we came in on the day to the day where the Monday yesterday.
01:03:52 I saw Kelly as we were walking into the office and I was like,
01:03:55 I don't think we should talk about this stuff.
01:03:57 And the reason was I thought it would create this endless loop of OK, we
01:04:04 Nate talked about it on Friday.
01:04:06 Ohio Tate writes the blog Monday.
01:04:09 Francis and Kelly come in.
01:04:10 They address it.
01:04:11 They get mad at Nate.
01:04:13 They get mad at Tate.
01:04:14 He writes another blog.
01:04:15 Nate comes back on on Friday and addresses everything we talked about on Monday and on
01:04:20 and on and on we go.
01:04:22 And I thought that would get very tiresome.
01:04:26 And so that's kind of my thought is aren't you relieved?
01:04:29 Because, yes, you're right.
01:04:30 That would get tiresome.
01:04:31 And yes, that is what Barstool Radio is.
01:04:33 Also, that's and yes, that is definitely my fault.
01:04:36 I was like, thank God.
01:04:36 If I maybe I should have had a longer conversation with you
01:04:40 because what you just described is like literally the show.
01:04:45 And that's where like if I if I had known that about you, like that you
01:04:50 don't want to do that or find that tiresome or grating because, by the way, it fucking is.
01:04:55 And that's why this is a very like it's not just a show that anybody can do.
01:04:59 It's probably only we were talking before you guys came in how there's only, you know, Dave
01:05:03 and Kirk and people like that could do it.
01:05:04 If I had known you really felt that way, I would have been like, I don't think this is for you.
01:05:09 But I thought that it was kind of understood.
01:05:11 Like I was describing it as when the drama is on, it's good, meaning the show is performing
01:05:16 well, that's what the audience likes.
01:05:18 When it's down is when you got to like carry it.
01:05:20 But but when the drama hits, you got to do the drama.
01:05:23 Without a doubt.
01:05:25 And to me, a little back story here, you know, a couple months ago, Kelly and I got together.
01:05:31 We enjoy working with each other.
01:05:33 I think we have a little bit of like we like to try to dress a little bit and drink wine
01:05:38 and all that bullshit.
01:05:39 And we thought maybe there was an opportunity for some kind of a show about that.
01:05:45 We were kind of meeting and to try to see if there was like a morning show.
01:05:48 And the person who behind the scenes was helping us organize that got let go in the huge let go
01:05:54 layoffs.
01:05:56 And that kind of evaporated.
01:05:58 And so when this opportunity came around, I think both of us were a little bit excited
01:06:04 about, well, maybe maybe this is the chance for us to create the show we wanted.
01:06:09 And I think I also think was we talked about before this all even started.
01:06:14 I said all those things.
01:06:15 And right.
01:06:16 I told you that back story.
01:06:17 I told you what maybe we can turn at Barstool Radio into.
01:06:20 You said that the drama is good when it's not manufactured.
01:06:23 Agreed.
01:06:23 This whole thing with the blog on Friday, apart from like the conversations with hubs
01:06:30 and Nate about the blog itself, no one else talked about it or cared about it.
01:06:33 I got one text from Big Cat saying like, oh, ha ha, like great blog.
01:06:37 That's it.
01:06:38 The only people that were talking about it were the like trolls in my replies because
01:06:41 I saw Kirk was retweeting it a bunch.
01:06:43 So like that's and that's not the world that I live in.
01:06:45 So I didn't think it was anything outside of my own immediate world.
01:06:49 I thought like it feels heavy for me because I'm in the middle of it.
01:06:52 No one else is talking about it.
01:06:53 No one tweeted about it.
01:06:54 No one said shit.
01:06:55 So I thought no one's interested in this.
01:06:57 The guy wrote this blog out of nowhere.
01:06:59 I don't know him.
01:07:00 He's calling me lazy, saying I don't work.
01:07:02 He's thinks he's got me with all this like proof.
01:07:04 It makes no fucking sense.
01:07:06 Like it was it was stupid in my opinion.
01:07:09 We were saying that's what the show is.
01:07:11 Is your he's taking victory laps as if he's he brought me down.
01:07:14 I'm like, you know, there are you talking about?
01:07:17 Literally nobody.
01:07:18 There's plenty of people who who are like they don't earn their contract.
01:07:22 They don't work there.
01:07:23 They should be like, oh, whatever.
01:07:25 Kelly has never, ever been even like mentioned in that.
01:07:29 Thank you for saying that because nobody else has.
01:07:32 And that's why that's my only concern is what Dave thinks.
01:07:34 And at the right now, Dave agreed, like thinks that it's hard to people to jump under the
01:07:39 bus with the heat.
01:07:40 You know what I mean?
01:07:40 Like, you know, I know, but it's like, but we're all like we're going to watch.
01:07:44 I've never been thrown under the bus harder than I am the situation.
01:07:46 And it's like, fine, whatever.
01:07:47 I'll wear this.
01:07:48 There's nothing I can do about it now.
01:07:49 It's too late.
01:07:49 Everybody.
01:07:50 It's my fault that Barcelona Radio is over, according to everybody else.
01:07:53 Well, you know that it is.
01:07:54 No, it's not.
01:07:55 We came on.
01:07:57 We're talking about literally saying it's my fault.
01:07:59 You're reading immediate tweets.
01:08:00 Oh, I'm saying on our show we failed.
01:08:03 It's our fault.
01:08:04 It's I blame you.
01:08:05 12% should have talked about it.
01:08:07 I said, no, I said, you're not lazy.
01:08:08 I said, no one thought like I don't know.
01:08:10 I appreciate you saying that, but I'm saying, what do you mean?
01:08:12 Give me 12% I will up it to 18% until this moment.
01:08:15 No one has said no one has said 20.
01:08:17 But I waited until I was in front of the microphone to talk about it.
01:08:20 Like, where do you want me to say these things?
01:08:22 I don't know.
01:08:22 It's my face yesterday.
01:08:23 It would have been nice.
01:08:24 I said that yesterday we're seeing that we fail.
01:08:26 We started the ball rolling.
01:08:27 We failed.
01:08:28 Then you guys failed.
01:08:29 You did fail.
01:08:30 You did.
01:08:30 You did a bad job on that show.
01:08:31 And like, I don't know.
01:08:33 That's OK.
01:08:33 But no one ever questioned your work ethic.
01:08:35 I guess it just was.
01:08:36 I got Kelly.
01:08:38 Kelly, I get what you're saying.
01:08:40 When I was going through that shit with Smitty and I felt like shit every day,
01:08:44 I was wondering, like, people were like nice to me and stuff like my friends.
01:08:47 I was like, why isn't anybody vocal about this on Twitter?
01:08:50 And then they basically they're like, it's not my thing to get involved with.
01:08:55 I don't want to be dragged into this.
01:08:56 It's true.
01:08:57 I get it.
01:08:57 That's true.
01:08:58 It's hard.
01:08:58 It's hard.
01:08:59 That Nate is still sitting here.
01:09:00 I don't know if you got what the conversation you guys had before this.
01:09:02 None of this would even be a conversation if you didn't try to paint the narrative that
01:09:06 no one wants to work on Fridays.
01:09:08 Don't blame me.
01:09:09 I don't think you should.
01:09:09 I'm saying that I think nobody does.
01:09:12 Like, it's just because Nate did a good show.
01:09:15 He did a good show one day on Friday.
01:09:16 Yeah, he did a good show.
01:09:17 He didn't even have.
01:09:18 And then you guys chose not to reply to it.
01:09:19 And that was an issue.
01:09:20 What he said, the same things we talked about all week.
01:09:22 What would we have replied to?
01:09:24 He regurgitated exactly what he said to our faces on the show, but then said it again
01:09:28 in a two minute scripted monologue and then talked about how the company is nothing without
01:09:32 him for an hour.
01:09:33 I mean, if you didn't think it was interesting, then I think, again, I thought the Dante
01:09:38 thing was great.
01:09:38 I thought I liked the segments.
01:09:40 I like that you had some time to plan it out.
01:09:41 That's something that we would have loved to have had, but we didn't have that.
01:09:44 And we're still trying to figure out the situation.
01:09:46 So we weren't there yet.
01:09:47 And all of that drama happened at one time.
01:09:49 Like, it was not supposed to start out being drama all the time.
01:09:52 But then Erica resigned and then Dave was in the office and then all that shit happened
01:09:55 at once.
01:09:56 No, and it was all fine.
01:09:57 So we didn't started Dave.
01:09:58 Dave took back the company.
01:09:59 We had the light off and we had the mean girls and it was like, this is good.
01:10:02 And it was great.
01:10:03 So we had to keep going with the same conversation just because like now it's a girl.
01:10:08 And I'm the laziest one here.
01:10:10 No, not that.
01:10:11 But to be honest, yeah, like that is what Barstool Radio listeners want is that shit.
01:10:15 Right.
01:10:15 So I think what happened is that we weren't Barstool Radio.
01:10:22 That's just what it was.
01:10:24 We wanted to do the Kelly and Frances show.
01:10:27 It was under the banner of Barstool Radio.
01:10:30 The people who drive that show have the obligation to do that show.
01:10:36 And we failed at doing that show.
01:10:38 And that's fine.
01:10:40 I can't be and I don't think Kelly wants to be the host of that show.
01:10:46 Right.
01:10:46 Yeah.
01:10:47 We're just not.
01:10:47 Again, like it didn't it didn't when it was presented, it didn't sound like that was going
01:10:52 to be the show.
01:10:54 Like it sounded like this.
01:10:55 This isn't going to be the show anymore.
01:10:56 We're going to turn it into something else similar to like the Yak or whatever.
01:10:59 We need something in New York that is like that because this isn't working.
01:11:03 So I wrote that fucking novel email to everybody.
01:11:06 I'm talking about an hour long with you talking about with you.
01:11:08 Twenty five minutes on the phone with you.
01:11:10 I don't know how many people I talked to about this.
01:11:12 And I thought I was on the same page.
01:11:13 And I am sorry if I didn't convey.
01:11:15 I thought I said like you do the drama when there's drama and then the in between is where
01:11:21 you have to have a good show.
01:11:22 And we were doing the drama when there was drama.
01:11:24 But yes, we did not think that this that this would continue.
01:11:28 And being in the middle of it, I didn't know if it was interesting or not.
01:11:31 I asked, is this interesting?
01:11:32 Everyone was like, you know, whatever.
01:11:34 We're going to we're going to get stuck in this spin cycle.
01:11:36 And I agreed completely.
01:11:37 I said, yes, we're going to just talk about the same fucking thing for four days again.
01:11:40 And the nays and talk about the same thing on Friday.
01:11:41 And it'll go on forever.
01:11:43 Like, you know, like that's what we already do.
01:11:45 And it was like, I know already people were I was under the impression that people were
01:11:49 sick of it already and wanted us to move past it.
01:11:51 Like, here's how naive I was.
01:11:53 Like, you know, I do.
01:11:54 I'm from the reality.
01:11:56 And I'm so fine with drama.
01:11:57 But I also know when you harp on about the exact same thing, it gets stale like you can't.
01:12:03 But there was an exact same thing.
01:12:05 The Ohio Tate, you mean?
01:12:07 Ohio Tate, that blog stemmed from you pretending like I don't work on.
01:12:11 I have to stop blaming me.
01:12:13 You have to.
01:12:13 You have to stop.
01:12:15 I would like you to take a little accountability for stirring up the narrative that no one
01:12:18 wants to do shit on Friday.
01:12:19 That's the only one percent blame.
01:12:20 I fucking can't.
01:12:24 Nate, I think I literally like I think I think that was too.
01:12:29 But like, I don't think you're taking accountability either.
01:12:31 I said that if with if anyone else had told me that that Tate thing was worth talking
01:12:36 about, I will give you a call.
01:12:39 No, I replied to his blog and me and all I got in response to it from anybody was Dan.
01:12:43 Hey, great blog.
01:12:44 I don't know.
01:12:46 I've done a radio.
01:12:47 We've done shows for 10 years.
01:12:48 I don't ever talk about what his original blog made no fucking sense to me.
01:12:51 I'm saying he said, like, look, she says she blogs on Fridays.
01:12:54 Look at all these Fridays that she hasn't had a blog.
01:12:56 And I said in that clip he was referencing, I said blog other points in the show and other
01:13:00 days on the show, I said Friday is the day that I write my newsletter.
01:13:03 So I included all my newsletters, how many fucking subscribers I have.
01:13:07 This is good.
01:13:08 No, but I wrote that on the blog and then it doesn't matter what I say because nobody
01:13:12 cares about that.
01:13:13 Dave already saw I think some lazy all this bullshit's happening.
01:13:16 I'm not going to sit here and argue semantics with Ohio's Tate, who has an issue with me
01:13:22 because he tried to blow something up, blow up a joke that I said that I don't want to.
01:13:26 I like working for you.
01:13:27 But I think you said just that right there.
01:13:29 And then we're all day long.
01:13:30 Please don't get me started.
01:13:31 Don't get me started on her saying she's already got, you know, it was a fucking joke.
01:13:34 Why are you?
01:13:35 That's why I didn't address because I didn't.
01:13:36 That's why I didn't know.
01:13:37 You rose your eyes as if you were on the side of everybody.
01:13:39 I didn't address it.
01:13:40 It's like no one has thrown me under the bus harder than me.
01:13:42 And it's very, I would say nobody's had your back more than me.
01:13:46 Bullshit.
01:13:46 OK, fake.
01:13:47 All right.
01:13:47 That it's fucking not.
01:13:48 Listen, it is.
01:13:49 I, I simply not to Kelly's point.
01:13:54 When we when all this happened on Monday yesterday, I need to interject real quick.
01:13:59 I didn't bring it up on the show, though.
01:14:01 How do you think?
01:14:02 And I pushed his blog to after my thing.
01:14:05 You did because you said, oh, because I'm coming out right after radio,
01:14:08 because I thought the makeup thing was so stupid.
01:14:10 And his whole point of his blog was you in the makeup thing that I didn't even want to address.
01:14:14 You said that you weren't you didn't even know if you wanted to publish the blog.
01:14:17 It was so right.
01:14:18 Because I feel like publishing a blog from him is as close to publishing a Internet commenter.
01:14:24 Yeah, let me say let me let me say Ohio, Ohio, right.
01:14:27 Ohio, take throwing shots at people.
01:14:29 You applied to it.
01:14:30 So it was worth.
01:14:31 Right, because they posted it and he was accusing me of not working.
01:14:34 And I said, yes, I do work in case you never see you.
01:14:36 You heard me talking in the office.
01:14:37 I didn't want to publish it.
01:14:39 I had your back through that whole thing.
01:14:41 You know that.
01:14:41 Well, OK, here, but you let me let me just say, because if everybody feels that way about him,
01:14:46 he probably shouldn't have a fucking handle and a job.
01:14:49 That's not my call, though.
01:14:50 Right.
01:14:50 So if he does and he's writing.
01:14:52 I it's it's incredible bullshit to throw shots at people, get them in trouble with their boss,
01:14:59 get them fucking have people coming at them on the Internet while you are literally hiding
01:15:03 behind a fake name because you want to be a gym teacher and you can't get about pictures.
01:15:07 That guy.
01:15:08 I took those.
01:15:08 You know, I was I would put that motherfucker on blast.
01:15:12 I would say, dude, I say we're going to fly to Cincinnati and plant troves of child pornography.
01:15:17 I would say I give you you're going to make my life miserable.
01:15:20 You're losing your job as a fucking teacher.
01:15:21 I promise.
01:15:22 It's easy to talk shit.
01:15:23 We don't have to come and look somebody in the face.
01:15:25 Right.
01:15:25 It's like, what's off?
01:15:26 Fine.
01:15:26 I understand being understood.
01:15:28 It was just like Dave Portnoy has had arguments with like fucking interns on Barstool Radio.
01:15:32 It's just the nature of this job.
01:15:34 And this and that show is like you come in this arena and it's kind of like a fair,
01:15:38 fair fight or you you dunk on someone and be like, you're a fucking nobody.
01:15:43 Get the fuck out of the studio.
01:15:44 And it's like what you just said would probably have been great on radio.
01:15:47 Like say you did talk about it yesterday, but your mindset wasn't like, I have to address this.
01:15:52 Let's say someone told you to Pat or Tommy or whatever.
01:15:54 It just would have been like this show just wasn't for you guys.
01:15:57 That's fine.
01:15:58 I know.
01:15:58 We weren't the right people for it.
01:16:01 Your ear was just like, yo, you guys have to talk about this.
01:16:03 Would you of course, of course, I had no idea that people were watching.
01:16:07 Someone called in about Taylor Swift.
01:16:10 There were a couple other like Taylor Swift calls.
01:16:12 I was like, all right, we're done talking about that.
01:16:14 One popped up for a minute that said Ohio Tate and then it went away.
01:16:17 And that was it.
01:16:17 They said nothing.
01:16:18 And I don't know if they were screening behind because they heard us talk about it beforehand.
01:16:22 But no, and I had no idea how many people were watching and waiting for it.
01:16:25 No one in the office said anything to me before we went on.
01:16:28 Like I came out and the only person who said something to me afterwards was Clemmer.
01:16:32 He's like, why didn't you mention it?
01:16:33 I was like, because it's bullshit, whatever.
01:16:34 Like, who cares?
01:16:35 No one else.
01:16:36 No one else was around.
01:16:36 No one said anything.
01:16:38 Can I also say that I think you guys don't have a good radar on 100 percent.
01:16:42 And my radar again, like, right.
01:16:45 I have brought up stuff that after shows people have been like, we cannot talk about that.
01:16:51 And I'm like, what the fuck?
01:16:53 Where's the line?
01:16:54 I don't know, which is why I get fired.
01:16:56 I have no idea what is inbounds and what is out of bounds.
01:17:02 It's a very this company is a very it's so arbitrary.
01:17:07 It's like we can't.
01:17:08 We don't really talk about the Chicago, New York office beef and we don't do this.
01:17:13 And yet, like, how come we're not addressing Ohio?
01:17:16 Tate.
01:17:16 Yeah, I know.
01:17:18 You're right.
01:17:18 You're right.
01:17:19 What the fuck is allowed and not?
01:17:21 What I would say to that is I would always err on the side of doing it, then not doing it.
01:17:25 But that's what I think a good line would be.
01:17:29 You have a very good argument.
01:17:31 I can't lose my job.
01:17:32 And I just, you know, your job for talking shit about an employee.
01:17:36 But I get people from now.
01:17:38 I get what you're saying, Francis.
01:17:39 And because there are so many don't do this and dies.
01:17:43 But I think a pretty good barometer that I would use is if it's on the blog, talk about.
01:17:47 Yeah, that's fair enough.
01:17:49 Originally, I think what Barstool Radio is was like, we're going to make the blog radio.
01:17:52 Yes, but like, okay, I guess I feel I feel fucking stupid because I feel like everybody
01:17:59 had all of a sudden everybody is like, wow, you didn't know this.
01:18:02 And I swear to God, like, I'm not trying to come in here and like not take accountability
01:18:06 and whatever.
01:18:06 I just feel like it's it was so it was presented to me in a completely different way than I
01:18:14 thought it was like, I just didn't feel like it was presented to me in the way of like,
01:18:18 this is Barstool Radio.
01:18:19 It's drama only it will stay this way.
01:18:21 And are you willing to rise up to the task?
01:18:23 Like, why else would I be like saying all that other shit?
01:18:26 People were texting me.
01:18:27 Rowan text me after I sent that email and said, great, can't wait to see what this becomes.
01:18:30 You're saying, oh, great, you took initiative.
01:18:32 Like everyone's being super supportive.
01:18:33 Are you saying that I didn't?
01:18:34 You're talking to me because if I was unclear that like, I mean, I should have said like,
01:18:39 you should have been more clear.
01:18:40 Yes.
01:18:40 And I agree.
01:18:41 It should have been more clear.
01:18:42 But but how is it that I'm the one saying like, when the drama happens, I would even
01:18:46 come back or we would do it like, Kelly, I blame Kevin.
01:18:50 12.
01:18:50 But then I remember saying, what do you blame him?
01:18:51 I can't tell how much I blame him because in my head, infinite wasn't it wasn't presented
01:18:56 to me as this and it should have just been said like, no, this is Barstool.
01:19:00 Let me just say, OK, on that front.
01:19:01 I remember saying, but when there's drama, I will come back and do it.
01:19:07 And then I remember thinking that's not fair.
01:19:09 If I just swoop in for the good times, it's their show when the drama is popping off and
01:19:14 the numbers are going and fans love it.
01:19:16 They should get to reap the benefits because they are doing the like the sludge part, too.
01:19:20 So I remember thinking like, maybe I won't do that.
01:19:22 So but I I still thought we understood that it was going to still be about inter Barstool
01:19:29 stuff, and sometimes I was going to be dry.
01:19:30 I guess I didn't.
01:19:31 And I it's crazy that I'm the only one that didn't like I did not know that this is like
01:19:36 that's why I'm so confused by this.
01:19:38 I have no idea how I missed it.
01:19:42 Well, it's not it's it's made more for Kirk and Dave.
01:19:46 And yeah, I mean, look, that's a better iteration of me and John.
01:19:50 You you two could tell the original then Ronan Caleb that there's been many different
01:19:55 versions of it.
01:19:57 The Liz Gonzalez, like right.
01:19:59 If it's more this Kelly and I have a running joke, any time I can bring her name off, I
01:20:08 do.
01:20:09 It's like when Hitchcock used to appear in his movies every once every movie for Stan
01:20:16 Lee as well.
01:20:17 Like, well, there it is.
01:20:18 That's him.
01:20:20 There's Stan Lee in the Marvel movie.
01:20:23 No, but like I if it took our colossal failure to finally bring home the point to Dave that
01:20:33 he is needed to do this and he's now brought Kirk and wit, which talk it's like that talk
01:20:40 about the dream team.
01:20:41 If that's what it took, I can't be all that sad because I'm a fan of that show.
01:20:47 That's the show I would have wanted it to be.
01:20:51 So now to John's point about if it's on the blog, then it's fair game.
01:20:58 The blog is arbitrary to correct.
01:21:02 I have read at least a blog has sometimes when you're speaking, it just comes out of
01:21:07 your head.
01:21:07 The blog, at least at least someone thinking, but this is going to go up knowing what Dave
01:21:13 is going to react positively or negatively to is flip a coin because I have had blogs
01:21:19 that I've written and sent off and Nate has been like, careful.
01:21:23 No.
01:21:23 And then he has had some where he's been like, you should write this and we have and
01:21:27 then it has pissed Dave off.
01:21:29 And it's an impossible job that he has.
01:21:33 I am a writer who tries to go right to the line and dance along it and not go over and
01:21:41 and, you know, it's hard.
01:21:43 It's a tough thing.
01:21:44 Like, I don't write ever anymore.
01:21:49 But I'm speaking.
01:21:51 I try and err on the side of don't get close to the line.
01:21:54 If there's something if I'm not sure about something, just don't say it at all writing.
01:21:57 I would try and close the line because, again, at least you have a safety net there.
01:22:00 Yeah, yeah, I can read it over once or whatever.
01:22:03 I also like you don't want to piss off Dave, but like he's not going to fire anybody.
01:22:10 He's not like I've heard that before.
01:22:12 I hear this all the time.
01:22:14 I'm literally living proof.
01:22:18 Three years I wandered three years.
01:22:21 I wandered out alone in the cold.
01:22:23 You fucking idiot.
01:22:23 Kevin, I already know it's all.
01:22:25 It's very clear that Taylor Swift only goes so far.
01:22:27 Like, I mean, for me, no, that's the only connection I have with Dave.
01:22:30 I definitely you're the wrong person to say that to.
01:22:33 You will never like if you if you a situation like this is not you're not gonna get fired
01:22:39 because he doesn't think you work.
01:22:41 You're in the mix.
01:22:42 It's all part of it.
01:22:42 He knows that you do work like you fucked something up, but it's like you're still going
01:22:46 to be here and do.
01:22:47 Yes, if you if you but I had a girl and we get now I have seven months left on my contract
01:22:52 and to be embroiled, you know, you just you don't want to add.
01:22:58 I get that negative stuff to Dave's life.
01:23:01 Sure.
01:23:02 Sheet as he's considering whether or not to renew you.
01:23:05 I feel you.
01:23:05 And which is why I don't know why.
01:23:08 Like I understand infighting and fun and whatever, but the I've never liked and I've said this
01:23:14 when you guys have radio and I said it I think in our conversation we talked about I hate
01:23:18 the people that call out other people or think that they're calling out other people for
01:23:22 their work ethic or how much they get paid or how what time they come to work or whatever.
01:23:26 I think that that's a toxic fucking thing.
01:23:28 There's one person who do that and that's the boss.
01:23:29 Exactly.
01:23:30 And I think it's fucking crazy to start.
01:23:33 That's why I try it using that as an excuse to elevate yourself, which is why I'm pissed
01:23:37 at you.
01:23:38 And it's like I think that that that cultivates a mood in the office that's shit.
01:23:44 Nobody should be afraid of fucking big brother.
01:23:48 Big brother is Dave.
01:23:49 That's it.
01:23:49 I should have to worry about whether like I don't have to catching strays because some
01:23:53 bum fuck in the middle of Ohio says I don't work.
01:23:56 You have no fucking idea what I do.
01:23:57 So it's like, how do you even know that?
01:23:59 And I think it's insane that it's that it's used for content.
01:24:02 And I think that, you know, everybody's always talking about Chicago, New York, Chicago,
01:24:05 New York, Chicago never fucking does that.
01:24:07 So and it works for them and they all get along great.
01:24:09 So why can't we do the same thing?
01:24:10 It feels like old dog, you know, can't learn new tricks.
01:24:14 Why can't we?
01:24:14 Yeah.
01:24:14 Why do we have to keep doing this bullshit?
01:24:15 If you can't prop yourself up, but without putting other people down.
01:24:19 Right.
01:24:21 I feel like that's crazy.
01:24:22 I mean, people think and even just having said that people will give me shit because
01:24:25 of the Mean Girls thing.
01:24:26 People think I wrote that one blog about the Mean Girls because they were stupid.
01:24:29 And I deserve all of this.
01:24:31 I deserve everything that's coming for me.
01:24:32 I can't talk shit.
01:24:33 I can't say anything.
01:24:34 I do not think this is the same situation at all.
01:24:37 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like I don't think it's as different as you think,
01:24:41 but it's not that you didn't call out there.
01:24:42 Well, the difference is that everybody that that three of the biggest people in the company
01:24:46 had their backs and and instead it's opposite for me.
01:24:50 That's the difference.
01:24:51 Had whose backs?
01:24:53 Dave and Kevin and Dan all had the Mean Girls backs.
01:24:55 I do think it's similar to like you.
01:24:57 I do think you were talking about work ethic and coming to the office and stuff like that.
01:25:00 I don't think I was.
01:25:02 I did not until after they didn't stop coming to the office until after.
01:25:05 At the time, I said my main point of the thing was that they were putting out stupid clips
01:25:10 on purpose for clicks and it made everybody look stupid.
01:25:13 And everybody jumped on that.
01:25:14 And then so now I deserve everything.
01:25:16 I think it's in the same ballpark as like you're talking about other people's work and
01:25:19 whether or not you whether you think you work hard or whether you like their content.
01:25:23 Are in the same realm, but I don't think I said work hard at all like I wasn't saying
01:25:27 that right.
01:25:28 You didn't like.
01:25:28 But that's what I'm saying.
01:25:29 I don't I don't think that they're the same.
01:25:30 I think me being like I don't I think your content stupid and makes me feel stupid and
01:25:34 in general is different than you don't do any work.
01:25:37 You're lazy.
01:25:38 I never called them lazy.
01:25:40 I think they both have an air of you don't deserve to work here.
01:25:44 Right.
01:25:44 It's in the very like the big bigger universe of like we are discussing other people's jobs
01:25:49 and whether they deserve it or yeah deserve to work here or are as funny as they think
01:25:55 they are or get the push that they're getting.
01:25:58 Yeah, it's it's like.
01:26:00 Well, regardless, I get shipping like, you know, you condition you can't take it in what
01:26:03 world am I not taking this right now?
01:26:05 I feel like it's I'm taking you're always there.
01:26:07 I know you're always there to it's crazy to go on the show to to hop on the mic to write
01:26:12 the blog whatever.
01:26:13 I think that is undeniable.
01:26:15 Thank you for saying that.
01:26:17 Yeah, I'll be steaming about this for a while.
01:26:19 I won't lie.
01:26:20 Yeah, but I'll get over it.
01:26:21 But I think I honestly think like it when we failed at radio, I was like, thank like
01:26:26 not thank God, but I was like, I didn't.
01:26:28 That wasn't for me.
01:26:29 Oh, no, no, you're right about that.
01:26:30 You said that before.
01:26:32 You're right.
01:26:32 That show the version of the show that everybody's wanting whatever.
01:26:35 No way like I that's no, I wouldn't have said yes.
01:26:38 I thought it was that I so yes, we failed in that I did not.
01:26:41 Yeah, just didn't even get it.
01:26:44 But okay, I'd like to up it to 1414.
01:26:46 I've landed on 14% your for you.
01:26:49 Me.
01:26:49 I already agreed to 18.
01:26:51 That's too high.
01:26:51 Okay.
01:26:52 Okay.
01:26:52 Thank you.
01:26:53 All right.
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