Jeremy White and Joe DiBiase take a call from a listener who claims they’re very concerned about the Bills for the remainder of the season, citing concern about the schedule. They then dive into the rest of the season and look ahead, explaining why they do NOT have any concern about this team falling out of the sky and dropping in the standings.
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00:008-0-3-0-5-50.
00:02George in Buffalo. Hey, George.
00:04Hey, good morning.
00:05I think I woke up on the pessimistic side of bed today,
00:09but, you know, I look back on the season,
00:12and, you know, I don't see them beating any of these teams
00:20with their full rosters.
00:21I know that I think they're just kind of getting by,
00:25to be honest with you, the Bills squad.
00:27And after the Miami game, in between the Miami games,
00:33I don't see a win for them.
00:35You know, so I...
00:36You think they're going to lose all the games in between the Miami games?
00:39Or do you just think they're going to lose a bunch of them?
00:41I mean, if we look at the schedule...
00:44Yeah, they're tough.
00:44I mean, what's their most likely record in that five-game stretch?
00:48It might be 3-2.
00:49Maybe.
00:49Maybe 3-2.
00:52Yeah, I mean, I would love to see them win a couple games there,
00:54but I'm wondering if, you know, realistically,
00:58a 12-win season, 11-win season might be in the cards for us.
01:01And the previous, you know, the previous eight games or whatever it is,
01:05sorry, I don't have my schedule in front of me,
01:07but I think probably three-quarters of those games,
01:10the other team's rosters, not to say ours weren't,
01:13a little bit too, obviously, but they were compromised.
01:16And, you know, to eke out those wins,
01:20a lot of them were three-point wins,
01:22maybe, you know, sprinkling a 10-point here and there.
01:24But, you know, because I'm a lifelong Bills fan,
01:27I want them to win a Super Bowl, you know, for God's sakes.
01:30But it just seems like it's almost like a paper tiger a little bit.
01:34If we went through it, who was Houston missing?
01:38Nobody.
01:38To be honest with you, I don't have that in front of me.
01:40I don't know.
01:42Thanks, George.
01:43Let's entertain this.
01:44Let's go through it.
01:44Because I do think it's true with A.J. Brown missed for the Patriots game,
01:48but he missed all their games, pretty much.
01:50And no Miles Garrett against the Rams.
01:53But Houston, who's Houston missing?
01:56They weren't really missing anybody.
01:57Who is Detroit missing?
01:59Their safeties.
02:00But their safeties, like Kirby Joseph's been out for a year and a half.
02:03The Chargers, who are the Chargers missing?
02:06Nothing.
02:07The Bills just played a really ugly game and still won.
02:09Then the Bills lose to New England.
02:11The Rams are missing Miles Garrett.
02:13Okay.
02:1337-34.
02:15That game might be a little different if Miles Garrett plays.
02:18Vegas.
02:18They weren't missing anything.
02:19The Bills are up by 10.
02:21They were missing Tonka Hemingway.
02:22Vegas gets a backdoor cover.
02:24The Ravens, definitely missing Lamar.
02:27That one is legit.
02:28If you want to put an asterisk by the Lamar game,
02:31I think you could do that and say we really got nothing out of that one.
02:34It could have been a shootout.
02:35Who knows?
02:35Minnesota's missing Kyler Murray.
02:37But their offense has been terrible with Kyler Murray.
02:40Right.
02:41Now, if you'd faced the Vikings with Cousins, maybe that looks different.
02:45We'll see.
02:46I don't know.
02:47I mean, it kind of doesn't really matter.
02:49You know, you said, George, you wake up on the pessimistic side of the bed.
02:52I guess you did.
02:55Because if you're considering the idea of, like,
02:57they're going to have an 11 or 12-win season, maybe 12,
02:59but 11 wins would be a disaster for you.
03:03The idea that they would go, that's four and five the rest of the season.
03:06He's predicting them to lose five in a row between their divisional New York-Miami-Miami-New York.
03:13Five in a row.
03:14Or you win one of those games and you lose to either the Jets or the Dolphins somewhere.
03:20Like, 11 wins.
03:21Would be pretty bad.
03:22I don't think that's realistic at all.
03:24Well, let's just play this game.
03:25Who has the single most impressive win in football this year?
03:29What team against what team?
03:30What's the best win of the year?
03:32Because you have to think about a good team beating a good team.
03:35Right.
03:36Who is it?
03:37This is the NFL.
03:38It's a week-to-week league.
03:39You get a lot of this kind of stuff.
03:41Is it...
03:42Is it...
03:45I don't even know what you would do.
03:47This is my point about...
03:49The Bears.
03:50I would say...
03:51You know what?
03:52I have an answer.
03:52The Bears winning in Seattle?
03:53The Bears doing what they did to the Seattle defense and winning by three scores.
03:57In Seattle.
03:57Yeah.
03:57Okay.
03:58I'll say that.
03:58On the road, good win.
03:59Super Bowl champs.
04:00Yeah.
04:01Did Seattle lose to who?
04:04Seattle.
04:05Like, Seattle's not had a great season.
04:06No, they're not in a playoff spot right now.
04:07Right.
04:08If the season ended today, they would not be in the playoffs.
04:11So, on the pessimistic side of that.
04:12Oh, I'm sorry.
04:12The Bears' most impressive win was over a non-playoff team?
04:16I guess.
04:16You know, like...
04:17What are we doing here?
04:18It's...
04:19It's stroke play versus match play.
04:21Just win your games, get to the playoffs, and then win your matches.
04:23That's what you gotta do.
04:25And the Bills have done a great job of doing what they do.
04:28Have we seen their best football?
04:31Maybe not.
04:32Maybe there's more to uncover there.
04:34But, I don't know.
04:35Eke out wins.
04:36Sure, they maybe should have lost to the Rams if Harrison Mevis kicks it straight instead of kicking it to
04:42the left.
04:43And Russo getting a piece of that.
04:44They caught him the next week.
04:45Right.
04:46The Bills have had a couple games where the very next week, the team's like, alright, we got a serious
04:50problem here.
04:51But, I don't know.
04:52You don't have to apologize for it.
04:55Is the Broncos over the Jags the best win of the season for any team?
05:01Is the Patriots over the Bills the best win of the season?
05:04They're a one-loss team.
05:06Yeah.
05:07San Francisco has one loss.
05:09They lost to Carolina?
05:12Is that the loss?
05:14No, Atlanta.
05:14Atlanta, sorry.
05:15Atlanta.
05:15They lost to Atlanta.
05:16They lost to Atlanta by nine.
05:18Yeah.
05:18Is that the best win of the season?
05:19Is Atlanta over San Francisco?
05:21I think they just, like, I think they are closer, it's easier to say that they have not played their
05:30best football yet than that they're a paper tiger.
05:32Because if you believe the defense is improving and going to look better than it did in the first month
05:40of the season, they haven't had a game yet where they're hitting on all cylinders on both sides of the
05:44ball.
05:45They played multiple games without DJ Moore.
05:47Right.
05:47And won both.
05:48So, like, I can foresee a game where Allen is unstoppable, the offense is just firing that day.
05:58And, oh, in the same game, the defense has answers, too.
06:03That game hasn't happened yet this year.
06:05No, it happened.
06:05Not really.
06:06Actually, do you remember what the score of the Bills-Jets game was last year in New York?
06:10It was a lot.
06:12I mean, 40?
06:13Did they get to 40?
06:1540 to 7 something?
06:17I believe the final score, I'll check right here, was 30 to 10.
06:20Nope.
06:22I got it.
06:2330 to 10.
06:2330 to 10.
06:24In New York.
06:25And the game was over by half.
06:26And the previous game, they beat the Jets 40 to 14.
06:29So, they've beaten this team they're about to play.
06:32And then 35 to 8.
06:34That's what it was.
06:35Like, the last three times these teams have played, it is a combined score of 105 to 32.
06:43Maybe what George needs is this game.
06:46Where, maybe not the best opponent, but if they just absolutely hammer them, they've won by 26, 20, and 27
06:53in the last three matchups.
06:56So, I don't know.
06:58They can't, I'll just keep saying this.
07:01There's really nothing they can do to convince you they can win the Super Bowl in November.
07:05That's true of October.
07:06It's kind of true of December.
07:08They kind of can't convince you, especially if you're, you know, a Bills fan that is walking around, head down,
07:14worried all the time.
07:16I mean, I'm sometimes always afraid that the shoe is going to drop, right, or something's going to be a
07:22problem.
07:22This is kind of how I was with the Sabres coming into this year.
07:25Like, I hope it wasn't a fluke.
07:26I hope it doesn't fall apart.
07:28And, you know, things are happening.
07:29But with the Bills, I just think if you're a Bills fan, the better way to live life, knowing that
07:35you're not going to jinx them, and it's just sports, just walk around with your chest out.
07:41Your team is consistently awesome.
07:44Us complaining about, you know, a receiver or a roster build or a contract, this is where people come to
07:50obsess about the team and talk about them in every single way because they love talking about them and hearing
07:55about them.
07:55But at the end of the day, like, they're consistently awesome, and we've been on a super fun ride, and
08:01this year could be the best one of them all.
08:03I'm getting very close to the – it happens every year, Joe.
08:07Maybe it's when the calendar flips to December.
08:10Like, what's going to happen?
08:11And I immediately shift into, well, I'm never betting against Josh Allen.
08:14Like, I'm just not going to bet against him.
08:16Not, like, actual betting.
08:17Like, do you think they'll win the game?
08:18Like, yeah.
08:19What about this playoff game?
08:20I think they're going to win it, and then if they lose, they lose, but we are very close to
08:24the turning of the calendar.
08:27He never loses in December.
08:28They lost last year to the Eagles on a two-point conversion.
08:32He missed it.
08:32He missed the throw.
08:33Yeah.
08:34Is that his first loss in December since he's been good?
08:36They do not lose in December.
08:37Maybe.
08:38This is actually when they start to hit a stride.
08:41So, yeah, I mean, I certainly don't – I think what you said was right.
08:45They're much closer to haven't played their best than they are to paper tiger.
08:48What if they beat the Chiefs 40 to nothing?
08:50Would that convince you they're going to win the Super Bowl?
08:52That'd be pretty fun.
08:53That'd be right up there with, like, perfect game stuff.
08:55Show me Patrick Mahomes throwing a tablet.
08:58You know?
08:58Ooh, yeah.
08:59Give me that.
09:00Give me a Mahomes –
09:01Or smashing a phone.
09:01Give me a Mahomes offense that can't do anything against this team.
09:05That might be the kind of thing that convinces you they can win the Super Bowl, even though, you know,
09:08it's only in November.
09:10Smashing the Chiefs.
09:11Yeah.
09:11Yeah.
09:12Nothing in the next two weeks.
09:13Mike in Blaisdell.
09:14Hey, Mike.
09:15Good morning.
09:16How are you guys?
09:17Good.
09:17We're good.
09:18Well, I predicted at the beginning of the year when I talked to you guys, the Bills were going to
09:22win 15-2.
09:24And one of their losses is going to be to the last game of the season because they're going to
09:31already have everything sewed up.
09:33I think that this team has not played to their capability yet.
09:37But the one thing that I can say, and I heard the guy right before me talk about being afraid
09:45the Bills are going to win another game after they play Miami.
09:48One thing about the Bills, since Josh Allen has been the quarterback, is after the bye week, the Bills are
09:56almost impossible to beat.
09:58Almost impossible to beat.
10:01So I look at them to be a superstar team, and I think the defense is going to come around
10:11a little bit better.
10:12I saw Terrell Bernard play really good last week.
10:17And he hasn't really been playing that good the whole year, but he did last week.
10:23So maybe he's finally coming back into his own.
10:26That's all I have to say.
10:29All right.
10:29Yeah, thanks, Mike.
10:32They are very, very good in December, as you pointed out.
10:37Like, if you look at Allen's career splits and what he is in each month, I mean, it's not like
10:45it's that different.
10:46The Bills are excellent most of the time.
10:49So, like, if you think they're good in December, they're pretty good in December.
10:52If you think they're good in September, they're actually great in September, too.
10:56They're just usually great every month.
10:57But they're 24-10 with Allen in September, in December.
11:01By the way, that includes a couple losses where he, like, took a snap.
11:05Like, the Joe Milton game.
11:06Well, one thing, to that point, you know what they have not yet done this year that they did every
11:12year under McDermott?
11:13And, again, without saying, like, this was McDermott's fault.
11:15You can make it just a note in the program.
11:18Every year under Sean McDermott, check if it's every year.
11:21They lost two in a row.
11:23The lull.
11:25Every year we talk about the lull.
11:27There's Baltimore-Houston, back-to-back.
11:29There's Atlanta-Houston, back-to-back.
11:32There's, I think it was Baltimore-Houston.
11:34There's, the year before that, Cincinnati-Denver.
11:36Two in a row.
11:37Back-to-back.
11:38There were always...
11:38There were 22, they lost to the Jets and the Vikings.
11:41Back-to-back.
11:41Back-to-back.
11:4221, they lost to New England and Tampa.
11:45Back-to-back.
11:46The lull.
11:46That's the hurricane...
11:48Hurricane New England and the game in Tampa where they lose in overtime.
11:51And then they did not lose again until the AFC Championship game, maybe?
11:54Yep.
11:55And in 2020, they lost to Tennessee and Kansas City.
11:57Two in a row.
11:58Back-to-back.
11:58Back-to-back.
11:58It's one thing that Joe Brady and these Bills have not yet done.
12:02And maybe the key to the one seed is just don't lose back-to-back.
12:07When you lose, you bounce back.
12:09Because if this team doesn't lose two in a row, if I told you I could see the future,
12:15they're not going to lose two in a row, how many games will they lose overall?
12:18Like, every loss, you know a win is coming right at the end of that.
12:21So, I think I'm going to beat the Jets and Dolphins.
12:23I'm up to 11 wins.
12:25If there's a chief loss, you're bouncing back and beating...
12:29Who's the next game?
12:29The Patriots?
12:30Yep.
12:31You're winning that one.
12:33Like, that's something that has been different through eight games.
12:36They have not had a back-to-back loss.
12:37And that happened every year with McDermott.
12:40Yeah, it did.
12:41That's me, as someone who does not think like that's McDermott's fault.
12:44But worth noting.
12:46Gina in Delaware.
12:47Gina, good morning.
12:48Hey, actually.
12:49I'm in South Carolina driving to Florida right now.
12:52All right.
12:52But I wanted to, I just wanted to express to Joe Callie how much I'm going to miss talking to
13:01him on the radio during the week.
13:04This guy, I'm telling you, he just makes me smile.
13:07He is just special.
13:09And I just wish him the very best.
13:13You can't say his name without saying Joe Callie.
13:16It's like Joe Callie forever.
13:18So, half the time, Jeremy, when I call in, I just say what I've got to say to him.
13:23It's emotional vomit.
13:24And then I hang up.
13:25He's enough for me.
13:27So, Joe Callie, I wish you well.
13:28And I will be checking in on Saturdays.
13:31As far as the Bills, the Jets always make me nervous.
13:35Jeremy, you know I put my flag on the defense side.
13:38They are getting better.
13:40You got me so excited.
13:41Stack wins.
13:42Stack wins.
13:43Stack wins.
13:43Stack, good performance, communication, cohesiveness, add Armadi to the mix.
13:48And you know what, Jeremy?
13:50You're going to finally say they played well, period.
13:53Not they, well, they played well.
13:54And I don't want to change my tone because I know that's not how you speak.
13:57But, you know, they played well because it was a third-string quarterback.
14:01I just want to hear they played well.
14:04And they are.
14:05Defense, defense, defense.
14:07I'm continuing to look at Coleman.
14:09You know that I've been watching Coleman every year, and I'm so happy he's performing.
14:14He's being solid.
14:16And he's showing up.
14:17I get nervous about these Jets.
14:20I know we're going to win more than two or three games.
14:24We got Josh Allen.
14:26Josh Allen.
14:27How much does he deserve?
14:28A billion.
14:30Josh Allen deserves a billion dollars.
14:32So, let's go.
14:34And Joe Kelly, good luck to you, buddy, because I've truly enjoyed talking to you on a weekly basis.
14:41You're the best.
14:42Go Bills.
14:43Thanks, Gina.
14:44Joe Kelly's last day producing the morning show.
14:47All Joe.
14:49He of.
14:51Is Lake Erie a soup?
14:52Which, honestly, I think it's my favorite question that's ever been asked on the air.
14:57It's good.
14:58Is it a soup?
15:00I mean, it was good.
15:03What more can you say?
15:03It's a beautiful question.
15:06There have been some really good ones.
15:08I'm trying.
15:09The Neapolitan ice cream kicked that off like crazy.
15:11The Neapolitan ice cream set the world on fire.
15:14What a disaster that was.
15:16What was your take on it?
15:17That no one's ever used all three flavors?
15:21What?
15:22What was your take on it?
15:23The thing you thought about Neapolitan or that no one actually just used?
15:26That's what it was.
15:27He eats all three in one bite?
15:28Yes.
15:29Yeah.
15:29Oh, yeah.
15:30That no one does that?
15:31No.
15:32Yours was that they don't separate it?
15:34Whatever you said.
15:35Tell us.
15:35What do you think about Neapolitan ice cream?
15:37I think it's three flavors in one carton, and I would mix them always.
15:45Sure.
15:46But I would never pick one.
15:47Sorry.
15:47The idea.
15:47Is that what it was?
15:48That's what it was.
15:49People would say that I would only have the chocolate today.
15:52I only speak the vanilla.
15:53Yeah.
15:53And no one ever would do that because you would just buy chocolate.
15:57Or...
15:58Yeah, that's what it was.
15:59Yeah.
16:01Or you would just get Neapolitan for a party because then you have three flavors in one
16:04and people can pick what they want.
16:05No one scoop...
16:06I've been to parties where that's available.
16:08And when someone asks, do you want Neapolitan ice cream?
16:10They don't ask you, which kind do you want?
16:13Right.
16:13They scoop the three.
16:14But someone could just say, like, only the chocolate.
16:16And you'd say, okay.
16:17That's insane.
16:18Insane behavior.
16:18That's such a regular thing.
16:20I don't know why that's insane.
16:21Because now the next person that wants all three, sorry, you can only have two.
16:25Because Jeff over here took all the chocolate.
16:27Who's taking all the chocolate now?
16:28Well, like his lane of chocolate.
16:31Well, you get to see which one's more popular.
16:33See?
16:34See what Joe Kelly did to us?
16:35We're so bad.
16:36Some of the things he brought to our table.
16:38803-0550.
16:39NFL and center Vic Carucci on the other side on Bills, Jets, on Amani Hooker.
16:44And how we can expect him to be integrated into this defense and expectations we can now set for the
16:50defense,
16:50which starts, you know, their new look this week against the Jets.
16:54Vic Carucci coming up next here on WGR.