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04:26we're going to be covering tonight mlw announcing a huge show in conjunction with cmll out of mexico
04:34for azteca lucha on may 15th this will be at the chicago cicero stadium and i find it wildly
04:41interesting that there is such a close bond between aew and cmll that in an interpromotional
04:47opportunity like this that tony khan would in some way get involved this also comes on the heels
04:52of the fact that mlw is talking about significant shake-ups to their creative process their their
04:58staff their wrestling uh talent their performers we know that dijack left earlier this week there's now
05:04been some uh flirtation with the thought that maybe killer cross the current mlw world heavyweight
05:10champion may be leaving the company soon he put something out that kind of teased a possible
05:14departure um and we know there's other people whose contracts are coming to an mlw so to have a
05:20big announcement like this interpromotional match they better start building some major major stars
05:24if they are going to lose people so that people want to tune into the show if you've never seen
05:28an
05:28mlw show they are fantastic it's where jacob fatu really cut his teeth it's where you know matt riddle
05:35and people like that have gone post wwe career to continue to prolong their careers austin aries people
05:40like that they really do have a great product they don't have as much distribution they're on tubi
05:45so you can get that for free on tubi um but i think it's one of those promotions it's really
05:49great
05:49to support and i'll be very interested to see what happens at uh azteca lucha on may 15th love that
05:55they're announcing it this early so people can make plans to attend chicago's great city to host a
05:59show like that and it should be pretty cool moving on i've been asked by several listeners and i'm
06:05going to address it now about the gunther trick williams situation for those who don't know what i'm
06:10talking about after raw went off the air this week there was a dark match between gunther and wwe
06:15united states champion trick williams both smackdown superstars in which we saw trick williams pick up
06:22after a bookend a one two three clean pinfall victory over gunther which is on the heels of gunther
06:28refusing to go or choosing not to go to crown jewel depending on who you ask i do know that
06:33dave
06:33melzer and brian alvarez on wrestling observer radio address this um melzer was much more willing to
06:39accept that it's just a coincidence whereas it seemed as though um that was not the case for
06:46brian alvarez he was very clear about how he felt he thought that this was an intentional situation
06:51because of him refusing to do the job uh do the the match in saudi arabia crown jewel
06:56so i don't know is wwe punishing gunther this is the first time that he has cleanly lost a
07:02one-on-one match in an untelevised dark match he's had disqualifications he's lost in tag team
07:08matches where he didn't take a pinfall loss but this is the first time in six years of being wwe
07:12that he's taken a loss and that shocks some people and i understand it it's shocking to me as well
07:17but at some point it kind of has to happen doesn't it now the other thought process is is if
07:22he's not
07:22willing to go to saudi right now is he going to be willing to go for wrestlemania because if he's
07:26not
07:26willing to go for wrestlemania you cannot put him into a premium wrestlemania storyline because if
07:32you do and then he can't go you can't promote a match that's not going to happen because he refuses
07:36to go that's problematic so i think maybe it's a punishment thing or maybe it's just wwe doing the
07:43safe booking thing going listen we can't build you right now because you're not going to be there for
07:48our biggest show of the year you're still going to use him on tv the problem i have is i
07:52don't want
07:52to see him start taking losses now i saw some people's comments and i watched some of the other
07:56podcasts and shows talking about this how some fans are like oh yeah he lost a dark match that no
08:00one will ever see that no one will ever remember no one will ever care about well obviously they do
08:05because it's become a viral story so somebody and you could go online you could watch the whole match
08:09i did it's a solid match nothing wrong with the match um but he does pick up a a clean
08:15loss and
08:16that's very interesting timing to say the least um moving on from their conversation about tiffany
08:22stratton her heel turn that this was wwe waving the white flag that they were unsuccessful in turning
08:28her baby face that was the goal to have their next big megastar baby face and the fans just
08:33weren't buying tiffany stratton she wasn't getting over as a face they had to do something with her
08:38because she is getting paid she's very popular moves a lot of merchandise and the one thing she
08:42could do very well is be a heel so the the heel turn it's not necessarily something they wanted to
08:48do it's more something they felt like they kind of had to do because she wasn't getting over and that
08:53was problematic for wwe and creative and i understand it i support that i just wish it didn't have to
08:59involve the money in the bank briefcase and essentially almost the same storyline as last
09:02time that she had it now the one fundamental difference and some people have pointed this
09:06out is that the last time she turned on nia jack she went babyface doing it this was going babyface
09:11to heel it's still turning on somebody who's supposed to be your bestie and then taking the
09:15title from him especially when she waffled live morgan with the with the briefcase and live was laid
09:21out there was no reason she couldn't take out live so you give up a friendship for nothing
09:24that's just my opinion she's already been wwe champion this could have she could have won the
09:28world heavyweight championship and then put a different trophy in her trophy case there's a lot
09:32of reasons it it could have been done better and it could have been done with live but that was
09:37not
09:37where they ended up going they're pulling the plug on the tiffany stratton babyface and moving on with
09:42the heel because they totally floundered in their attempts to try to do it a different way and then
09:48finally tonight got to talk about the announcement from lucha libre triple a ray phoenix
09:53on x letting everyone know there is going to be a tournament for the number one contendership to
09:58the triple a cruiserweight championship and that tournament is going to be a uh a invitation to
10:04all members of raw smackdown nxt triple a and they even flirted with the concept of other companies
10:10and essentially the way this will break down is there'll be four triple threat matches with the
10:15winners december 19th the winners will go into a match where they're gonna determine the number one
10:22contender um january 2nd i believe is the date and when you think about this i think raw smackdown
10:28nxt triple a all makes sense the other companies probably is t is tna so i'm sure they'll probably
10:34bring somebody in from tna if they bring anybody else their best bet would be somebody from pro
10:38wrestling noah because they do have a relationship with noah they've allowed their talent to go there
10:42and get some some seasoning in another venue so that's possible but at the end of the day this is
10:48an exciting situation wwe doesn't do a ton of tournaments the john cena classic contrary to
10:53what a lot of people are saying is not a tournament it's a series of matches that win people voting
10:58on
10:58who wins the john cena classic not a tournament style thing so i think this is good because i think
11:03wwe needs more tournament like offerings because they're more engaging they're more exciting for
11:07people and i think this is a good look and a good move and ray phoenix keeping him very relevant
11:11on
11:12all brands especially as good as he is in the ring i just think is a very good decision for
11:16wwe all
11:17around what do you think down in the comments let me know who do you think should participate in the
11:21tournament uh how do you feel about tiffany stratton as a heel was this a bad move should
11:24they have stuck with the baby face should they have kept her in the mid card for a while and
11:27kept her
11:28out of the world champion the world championship picture what about the gunther situation do you
11:31think it's a punishment or do you think it's just a coincidence and how do you feel about the
11:35mlw cmll azteca lucha show being announced who do you want to see on that card what kind of matches
11:41would you like to see if you could book some dream matches for that show using current mlw and cmll
11:46talent
11:46who would you put into a match let me know for now though that's all the time we have for
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