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Sun Sentinel Dolphins beat writer Chris Perkins joins The Joe Rose Show following Miami's loss to New England. Perk and Joe discuss quarterback Malik Willis confronting rookie running back Ollie Gordon II after an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, and whether this young roster has the right leadership core under head coach Jeff Hafley and GM Jon-Eric Sullivan. Plus, should Miami trade veteran anchors like Zach Sieler or Austin Jackson at the deadline, or keep them to protect Willis' development?
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00:00all right thanks woody well listen man can we get right to him you got him yeah let's do it
00:05man
00:05let's go right to him chris perkins from the sun sentinel covering the miami dolphins like
00:08nobody's business and he joins us perk how you doing brother big joe i'm doing good man how you
00:14doing good man i looked up i couldn't believe it's so late i'm sorry about that you didn't
00:19realize how many commercials we had in there did you hey you gotta pay bills baby you gotta pay
00:23bills when he's expensive man the wood drove is expensive no question about it hey we got um we
00:29got a lot to get to we're about halfway through this thing and and uh the loss you know what
00:34i
00:34find interesting i love halfley on monday after he's had a chance to look at everything i love him
00:40with you guys when he comes in because i always wonder when you're up there talking about somebody
00:44not having a good game or having a rough day or playing great i always want to know because it's
00:50just my eyeballs do you feel that same way but he's so brutally honest with when they play great
00:57and when they don't and how many conversations he has with ollie gordon four of them like nobody gets
01:03that specific with you guys like this guy yeah you know what joe so to me a big part of
01:09this season
01:09is not only the player development and all that but we find out about john eric sullivan and jeff
01:16halfley right what do they favor how do they handle certain situations you know how do they
01:22prioritize zach sealer at the trade deadline how does half handle things like the chop robinson uh
01:29penalty on patrick mahomes the juju brint's taunting the ollie gordon unsportsmanlike conduct right
01:35he has this close relationship with jacob rodriguez as the head coach to the middle linebacker the green
01:41dot guy all of this stuff we're finding out about jeff halfley and how he handles situations i think
01:48it's fascinating joe every time we meet with half i'm fascinated it's so you know yeah and listen i
01:54always think especially the way malik willis handled the ollie gordon i thought was class act i'm already
02:00a huge fan of malik willis but that just the way he handled that like i love you you're going
02:06to be a
02:06big part of our success but what you did is not acceptable and and you caught it like the tv
02:12you
02:13know like wow what's going on because ollie gordon it takes him a little while to calm down whether it's
02:17a coach or any other players he doesn't just it takes a while for him and and you know to
02:24to get back to
02:25normal uh but i love the way they handled it and and by the way i don't want him to
02:29go and i don't want him to
02:30lose his passion i just want him there's a point where you have to stfu and you just he's got
02:37to
02:37get to that stfu situation where you just say you're done all right you made your point move away
02:44yeah and and i'm glad you don't get fined for the use of that abbreviation joe that's that's nice to
02:49know or or i guess we'll find out if you have that fan x in the in the well i
02:53got some people like
02:54when i first heard it going let me see stfu what what's that mean
03:02yeah you're a dumbass man you don't know that one he's one of the cool kids now per
03:08exactly exactly but i'll tell you this joe one thing that i really like when you talk about how
03:15malik willis and the dolphins handled the ollie gordon situation so i'm working on a column on
03:20what you consider a player-led team and if this team is too young to be a player-led team
03:27and then chipping away at this and talking to other people ollie gordon they say is an emerging team
03:33leader and and so for for malik willis to have talked to ollie gordon that way shows maturation
03:41by malik willis and that ollie gordon didn't yet back at him that showed respect that ollie has for
03:47malik so kind of in this leadership type thing and and are these guys too young i mean you know
03:53ollie is a second year player but he is an emerging team leader but in that situation he did tell
04:00me
04:00you know he needs to shut his mouth and and just go you know just go to the sideline or
04:05whatever but
04:06it's good to see leadership being handled by the players and and one player showing respect for the
04:13other you know the leadership the respect it's fascinating from a few uh situations from few
04:18angles i just want to say though just for the record let me get it out there first the leader
04:22of the team is jeff halfley it's yes yes yes and i like all those other guys like hey you
04:28guys are
04:28your captains but you ain't the president you right don't everything like i'm running the damn show you
04:34guys are my guys yeah and you know what was fascinating joe is as i've talked to players about
04:39this story that i'm doing i've explained it to them that like look i covered the heat title team
04:44in oh six when you had team leaders like dwayne wade and shaquille o'neal and alonzo morning but pat
04:52riley was the clear head coach and the same thing when i covered the big three right where you where
04:57you had dwayne and and and uh lebron and and chris bosh and a bunch of others you know ray
05:03allen but
05:04spo was the clear leader so you can have player lead but the coach is still the clear leader and
05:11that's what they all said about half that half is the is the leader of this team he is the
05:15the coach
05:16but you do need to be able to handle stuff player to player and they say that that's what's going
05:21on
05:21despite this being a young team um so it's a tough one you're up 10 and uh and cruising along
05:30and you get a stop to start to the second half you're like wow we we got a lot of
05:34good things
05:34going on and uh and then it kind of got away from you a little bit and i know the
05:40ollie gordon
05:40unsportsmanlike conduct penalty was was one of the things and and you had a couple opportunities to
05:46make plays and and you you bounce off and uh the quarterback drake may had played up just about a
05:51perfect second half to give the guy some credit even without some of his weapons how good he was
05:57but i still like the way they're fighting i was disappointed like everybody else that we couldn't
06:02you know do a little bit more and keep that lead to pull a huge upset if they would have
06:06won that game
06:07but um there were a lot of good guys are making more and more plays it's not perfect it still
06:15doesn't
06:16have enough talent on it it still doesn't have enough experience on it but man i just feel like
06:22we're getting the most out of this thing perk am i got too much of a cheerleading outfit on here
06:28with
06:28what i'm watching no no no the girls did hand me one at the end of the game it was
06:34wet and the one
06:35girl goes hey you want to use this girl you can don't be insane don't wear that skirt well i
06:41shouldn't
06:42be doing that none of the girls you know what i'll say this joe you see this team climbing the
06:49ladder
06:49right and so the better team won on sunday new england is the better team and so that's kind of
06:55part of the story of what we saw but also what we saw was a reduction in the self-inflicted
07:02damage
07:02and i know that we just talked about ollie gordon and i know zane gonzalez missed a field goal but
07:08they did reduce the self-inflicted damage they were good situationally right in third down
07:13in red zone penalties turnovers things like that so you do see them climbing the ladder and taking
07:21care of what they can take care of control the controllables as they like to say so they're making
07:27progress you do need to see another victory or two this month but um you know and and look the
07:34jets and
07:35indianapolis loom as two of the possibilities there right indy having the fire sale but you're
07:41seeing this team climb the ladder malik willis is is getting better he's not going to be good
07:46every single week but he's getting better chop robinson shows signs of getting better right
07:51the youngsters michael taff and jacob rodriguez is still balling and you're seeing progress with with
07:57guys like rodney mcgraw right low-key progress you're seeing kyle lewis come back and he plays
08:03the 11th snap right and so you're you're seeing with health what they can do also so you're seeing
08:09signs joe you you you you can clearly see what what sully and half are trying to do here
08:16perk um i want to get into we got a lot of stuff to get to you teased me you
08:20gave away i think kyle
08:21lewis is going to be a big part of this in second half for his cover and they're using a
08:25little bit
08:25outside linebacker safety we'll we'll talk about that a little bit later on i want to ask you this
08:29so we we have a lot of stuff to get to in this hour um are you with me i
08:34don't want to trade any of
08:35the veteran players are are you with me on that or are you willing to get one if you can
08:39get a fourth
08:40or a fifth round pick or something i want to keep all of them including austin jackson and zach sealer
08:46i don't want to move any of our guys they make up part of the great chemistry that you were
08:50just
08:50talking about leadership i don't want to leave any of the i want to keep right to the end of
08:55the year
08:55and if some of them go somewhere else and austin gets a better deal and they don't want that's
08:59different but i'm keeping them right now because he's your best right tackle how do you feel
09:03i'm an observer in all this joe and again i'm just fascinated to see how sully operates throughout
09:09this right does he value does he value zach sealer's leadership or does he value possibly
09:15getting a fifth round pick right you zach is the type of guy that every rebuild wants that every team
09:21needs right either up from the mud self-made type of guy he's good for the veterans he's good for
09:27the
09:27youngsters he produces on the field he's good in the locker room austin jackson uh look i
09:33know it's the final year of his deal but you're probably going to take a big drop in talent if
09:38austin jackson is not there you probably go to katie wallace i don't think they're going to move
09:42katie proctor so you are you willing to do that to malik willis in a season where he's already without
09:49devon h and you know so uh what is sully value and why what does he prioritize and why i'm
09:56fascinated
09:57by this trade deadline stuff because we don't know sully we knew chris greer we knew mike mcdaniel
10:02we don't know sully and half and how they operate so i'm just this year i have no predictions i'm
10:08just
10:08going to sit back and observe damn perk that was very well put man um austin jackson's clear your best
10:14guy i want to keep him for one of the reasons you said and one of the key ones he
10:19gives us everybody
10:20else a chance to have success malik to have more time to throw caleb douglas chris bell everybody
10:25else more time to get open and watch help everybody else's development so i'm not an austin jackson
10:31hater man i and by the way he wants to keep playing he's in his 20s he's not done he
10:35wants he wants to
10:36get another contract i think he's a motivated dude so uh hey we'll come back and talk about that
10:42and uh and not only that but but some of the individual young players and uh and some guys we
10:48got
10:48to get going as well some guys that have really played well with chris perkins from the sun sentinel
10:52by the way he's got a great article coming out such a such a great idea perk we'll be back
10:57with you
10:57in just a second perk don't go away though because i'm talking about atlantic men's clinic man that low
11:02t and ed stuff and uh man i gotta tell you that he just got a big smile before he's
11:08going can you get
11:09me some i'm like perk i just can't go get that stuff like that man but i gotta tell you
11:13november's men's
11:14health awareness month no better time to start listening to your body if you're constantly tired

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