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00:00I had already heard some things that Robin had felt about me and it's been for the last couple
00:06of years that there's been this sort of sentiment that she has about me so it just kind of came
00:11to
00:11a hit. Ashley Darby, you know Danny and I are so obsessed with you. We are so grateful for any
00:21IRL
00:22time we get with you. How are you feeling? This season of Potomac has been absolutely incredible
00:26much in part because of you. Oh I know. First of all you know I love coming and having a
00:31kiki with
00:32you guys too. I get in a little bit of trouble sometimes but it's good trouble. It's good trouble.
00:36I love it. But I'm really enjoying this season actually and I was a little bit apprehensive
00:41because I didn't know what to expect with so many of our older castmates coming back. What is our
00:47dynamic going to be like with you know Stacy and with me and Robin and Monique and it was just
00:53like
00:53so many moving parts and I knew some of it would be familiar but also a lot of it was
00:57unknown.
00:58Yeah. And I mean you said a lot of names that were returning and no you didn't say Robin's name
01:01yet.
01:02Oh. Oops. I wasn't sure if that was by design or just couldn't fit everybody's name into it.
01:07Sure we'll go with that. But I did not realize how off to the races your conflict and Robin's would
01:14be together. Did you expect it to kind of come up that hot? Yes well because I had already heard
01:20some
01:20things that Robin had felt about me and it's been for the last couple of years that there's been
01:26this sort of sentiment that she has about me so it just kind of came to a hit. Anything beyond
01:31what
01:31she said on Reasonably Shady like is other stuff that she because she you do come up on the podcast
01:37which do I? I mean a little bit here and there you seem to be. Oh I don't even know.
01:42You seem to be.
01:42Tune in. Like and subscribe. I know they got a Patreon or Panthenon whatever it's called.
01:46Because when that was brought up you kind of seemed a little bit unbothered by it. Like do you
01:52actually care what she says about you? Absolutely not. Okay. But I don't think I could care any less
01:56at all. Yeah. You know what I mean? If I did I'm in the wrong place. But I think too
02:01our relationship
02:02is so layered. I mean we started out Rocky season one. True. Oh my god yes. You know so I
02:08know I have a very
02:09strong memory where Monique had had a white party. We're all wearing white and Robin and I were just
02:15we were like this. Yeah. The whole party. So it's just. Oh my god when she came to confront you
02:20at
02:20the restaurant. Yes. How could one forget? Oh my god. How could one forget? Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
02:26Memories are just like flooding back. I know. But I then give you credit for how because of course
02:31it's a tricky situation for how much you know she hasn't been vibing with you for years. But it didn't
02:37seem to ever impact your relationship with Giselle. And I hope it doesn't even though
02:42you both are on the show now with the conflict. Yeah. I mean respectfully Giselle is an adult
02:47and I'm an adult. We're grown ass women at the end of the day. And so I respect that she's
02:53going to have her friendship you know. And as long as she knows how to move and she's comfortable
02:58I'm going to respect that. And one thing about Giselle you cannot make Giselle do anything
03:02she doesn't want to do. Right. Never. Okay. So she won't fool with you. She won't fool
03:06with you. And that's that. I mean I kind of understood your point in this whole situation
03:10where the edit comes up. You know no one would have known about it had Robin not brought it
03:16to the group or brought it to camera. I mean if we're going to break the fourth wall a little
03:19bit. Did Giselle understand what you were saying? Because it seems like she's giving Robin an
03:23immediate path. She actually doesn't seem to be that bothered by it. Yeah. I think that their
03:28business relationship is obviously very important to them. But you guys know too you have each
03:32other's backs. Right. And you need to have a united front. Especially when you do something
03:36like this where you're together all the time. You're human. You're going to err. Right.
03:40And so if you can't trust that your partner your business partner is going to have your
03:45back. What do you really have at the end of the day? So it was more so that she brought
03:49it to the platform. And that's what really bothered me about it. So yeah. Did you see because
03:54we caught up with Karen at FanFest. Yeah. She said that we asked her like how do you feel
03:58about you know Robin and Ashley? I saw. Oh yeah. She said hallelujah. She said it was
04:03like Christmas. Yeah. Because also it's not on her. Right. Okay. Karen is just so happy
04:08that we're talking about something else other than her. Yeah. So yeah. That was
04:12expected. So she said that but also Stacey confirmed to us you're saying that it did
04:19kind of smell like burnt butt hair at the coach. Because that was the first question I
04:24had to ask. That we singed them singed moody hairs. And what did it smell like? Like how
04:28would you describe the scent? Um just have you ever smelled burnt hair? Yes. Yeah.
04:32Like that. Oh gotcha. Like a salon. Yes. It's a lot of a salon. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
04:36Yeah. It wasn't like funky or anything. Oh okay. Gotcha. Okay. Do you feel everybody
04:40else is as excited unfortunately for you and Robin having conflict as uh Karen or
04:46she's just very especially happy? I think for Karen too it's just like old times you
04:51know. Like she's like oh this is familiar. Um yeah. I think that everyone was surprised by
04:57it. Especially the newer girls who have never actually seen us before. Right? Like
05:02Stacey has never really seen us. Wendy knows a little bit about it. Tia has
05:05obviously never seen our dynamic. So I think the newer girls were just kind of
05:09like popping their popcorn. Yeah. How are how are you and Tia right now? Because I
05:13mean obviously you guys did not start off on a great foot this season. But I
05:17really when I watched the clip back on the reality rundown and shout out to the
05:20reality rundown. We love Wellington. Love him. It just it doesn't feel like I don't
05:25know. It didn't seem like you were too gleeful about the situation. I think you
05:28were literally just saying like it's not my story to tell. Like I I mean were you
05:32at all? Like were you happy to sit on that? I just I didn't feel that. I think it was
05:36like I think it was actually excited to have some tea. That was gonna be good out.
05:39Okay well you know I actually I just did a thing with Dorenda and we talked about
05:44when you're on stage the electricity from the audience it gets you hyped up. Right.
05:51And you can be talking about something that is you know not so happy in nature
05:56but it's just it's the vibe. Yeah. It's the adrenaline. It's the tequila.
06:01And you're a performer. It's all the things. Right. So I realize now that that was my delivery
06:05but I was not reveling in that because I've had it happen to me. Yeah. Well I almost feel
06:10like I wonder if a part of you kind of like how Karen was so excited to talk to us
06:13about
06:13you and Robin. You're probably like oh there's gonna be drama that's not about me next season
06:16I'm excited for that. Yeah. Oh well I definitely have had enough of that and now Josh you know
06:22he's just one thing about him at least you know let me not uh jinx it but I don't think
06:27he will embarrass me. Yeah. I don't get that vibe. He seems like such a sweet boy and I love
06:31that
06:31you guys have continued to progress in your relationship even despite that like kind of
06:35awkward conversation where there was like you know a little monetary talk involved. Yeah. How do you
06:39guys feel in that regard in this current moment? Like is this an issue at all or? Yeah. Still an
06:45issue.
06:45Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's ever present. It's ever present. And then the kid part. Yeah. That's kind
06:50of the bigger picture. Yeah. That's a very big thing. Um he wants at least two children. Oh. I'm like
06:57don't come knocking on this door. I don't know. You have to. You're like here they are. Yeah. Exactly.
07:01Which by the way he's so great with them. Oh. I can see that. Does watching him with your kids
07:07make
07:07you think like hmm or are you like see look how good you are with kids already. Yeah. You got
07:11him. Yeah. And my dog. He's great with my dog too. So um yeah a little bit of me is
07:15just like can
07:15we just be content but that's not fair to say to someone like if someone wants children it is
07:20literally your god-given right to procreate. Yeah. So that could be the end of us. Oh no. I know.
07:26I hope
07:26not because he makes you so happy otherwise. I know. How does Sheila feel about him? Oh everyone
07:30loves him. Okay. Yeah they love him. He also cooks so whenever like mother's day he cooked this big
07:36lobster and steak dinner for everybody. Oh yeah my auntie loves him. My grandma loves him. My mom. Everybody loves
07:41him.
07:41Josh. Wait how is Sheila? I love her so much and I just always hope for the best for her.
07:46Thank you
07:46babe. She's good. She's good. She actually is now working with um disabled adults who are like
07:51non-verbal and my mom I've never seen her feel like she has so much purpose. Wow. You know these
07:58are
07:58adults who really have never spoken. They have like the the mindset of like a four-year-old and my
08:03mom
08:03is like like she just feels like she's doing something so beautiful. Oh that is beautiful. I know. I love
08:09it. I love
08:09that and I also am very curious because we tried to talk to Stacy about Courtney and Stacy yeah we
08:16didn't realize it was before we saw last week's episode and did not see him. She does not like
08:19her. No. You don't say. They kind of like really was that a pre what we saw them just going
08:24back
08:24and forth that lightly got to continue and develop throughout the season. Oh yes there's a lot it
08:29gets it gets deep between them. Do you like Courtney? Oh yeah. Yeah actually I do and I actually
08:35defended Courtney at that dinner because I felt like Stacy was shading her event planning but
08:39Stacy planned Cynthia's whole wedding like put some respect on her name. With also Cynthia right
08:44there. Right. Yeah. Cynthia co-signed on it. Yeah. Right. So I'm like in that instance it felt
08:49important for me to stick up for Courtney. Was there something pre-existing between Stacy and
08:54Courtney other than that phone call? Because like why was there so much heat for Courtney from Stacy?
09:00I'm so confused. I couldn't read it either but it feels like that was the birth of something. Yeah. You
09:06know
09:06what I mean? Like maybe it was the tone of that phone call. Maybe it was one of those situations
09:09where you had to be there to understand it. Yeah. Right. Because clearly people were disgruntled
09:14to say the least. So it does. It gets a little hot in that kitchen. Oh my god. Do you
09:19think that
09:20Courtney is a good housewife? Like if you could rate her out of 10? Yes. I am very happy for
09:25Courtney to
09:25be. She's like she's out of 10. Oh she I'm gonna give her a good eight and a half. Oh
09:30that's pretty
09:30good. Yeah. For your first season. I mean we love her. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. She jumped
09:34right in. She wasn't afraid. A lot of people are like oh I don't want to share that. I don't
09:38want
09:38to touch that. Courtney dove in. And being a minister and everything. I know. Right. She threw caution to
09:43the wind. Talking about infidelity but also talking about Jesus. I was like wow girl you really just
09:46put it all out there. Yeah. She's multifaceted. Yeah. And I love it. And she's beautiful. And she's just the
09:50right stunning.
09:51She's stunning. Body is T. Face is T. And she's fun. Yeah. We have a great time. Yeah. I know.
09:57I feel in
09:57Patoma you guys do have a lot of fun but then of course the drama always creeps its way up
10:01and
10:01I feel like this is the first season where I love at that dinner too I don't love for her
10:05but Giselle's
10:06like this dinner's not fun. Like she's getting hit with a lot this season and then Giselle is getting
10:10hit. Yeah well I mean the drama of you and Robin and then also we know in some upcoming episodes
10:14her and
10:14Karen are having some intensity where Karen. Did y'all see that in the teaser? The teaser. Yes. And Karen
10:21told us she has the receipts about what happened. Okay well I would like to see those receipts as
10:25well. The Grand Dame I think took it a little far in that situation but yes it is and it
10:33leaves a lasting impression on the group. Really? And yeah I think we're still feeling some of the
10:38remnants of it today. Okay really? Because we had the ultimate girls trip party. Yeah. And you
10:43know was Karen there? I can't recall. Karen was there looking good in her. Was it Tom Ford or Gucci
10:47thing? Armani? Whatever. She was looking amazing. She did look good. Yeah but like you can definitely
10:53feel some of the remnants from our season at that party for sure. And do you feel this new
10:58Karen really is so new that Ray would not know how to be in love with her? Because it seems
11:03like that is a thriller where he doesn't know. He calls her like boring Karen and everything
11:07now. Because you guys have seen episode four right? We have. Yes. Okay. When Ray says that
11:12he almost didn't marry her because of her drinking before. That was very telling because that means
11:20that this is like maybe Ray has never known another version of Karen to be fair. Right? If that was
11:28how
11:28the relationship started then this sober introspective kumbaya Karen is so foreign to him. Right. Yeah.
11:37For 30 years. Three decades. He had the other one. It's also her too. You think a relationship would
11:41change and evolve with each other to like so that he would want to help her in this new
11:46Yeah. I don't think he knows how. I know he loves her and I know she loves him. But you
11:51can only really
11:52tell someone but so much of how you need to be supported. Some of it has to be intuitive. Yeah.
11:58Like
11:58you just have to kind of know how to show up sometimes. Right. And I don't think Ray really knows
12:02that. And also in one of the
12:04teasers we don't know who it is but she's showing up with another man somewhere. Oh yeah. Did you get
12:08to meet him? Oh my goodness. Wait Ashley what do you think of this guy? Um I will say that
12:14he is he's
12:15very handsome man. Now the nature of their relationship is going to surprise you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Let's
12:20let's we won't run with it too much. All right. Okay. We won't run with it too much. But he's
12:24a very
12:24handsome man. Is Blue Eyes still around? No. He's not. No. I'm dying to meet Blue Eyes. He's a very
12:31handsome man
12:31too. And also speaking of some handsome men will Juan pop up at all this season or is
12:37Robin kind of happy not to or is Juan happy not to be involved with this at all? As far
12:41as I know no. Okay. Yeah. Juan is doing his own thing. Do they seem to be good together? I
12:46think so. Okay. Well their sons are doing very well. Okay. And I know that that's a very
12:50big bonding thing for them. Yeah. Right. Her son I think is being looked at for like college
12:55basketball stuff. Okay. Cool. So it's great stuff happening there on the home front. But I don't
12:59know about their relationship. I don't know what's going on there. I mean speaking of
13:01Robin when we did chat with Karen and she was excited that you and Robin were fighting
13:04one thing she did say is or she inferred that there's kind of this like competition who's
13:08going to be Giselle's lapdog. What do you make of that? What do you make of that assessment?
13:13Like do you think there is a competition between the two of you? Also what do you think of the
13:16lapdog label? Yeah. I think Karen needs to get some new material. She's actually said that
13:20quite a few times now. Yeah. We're recycling old stuff now. Let's let's freshen it up. All right.
13:24Number one. Number two. I think that because Karen has never had like a really close friend
13:31on our show. She actually will tell you she doesn't have a lot of close girlfriends period.
13:36Yeah. She has one friend Kiki who I know she loves and who really shows up for Karen. But
13:41she doesn't really understand what it looks like to have someone who would love you ride
13:45or die for you and support you on this platform. And because Giselle and I have nurtured our relationship
13:50off camera as much as we have on camera, we have a real friendship. Yeah. Right. She knows
13:55where my skeletons are buried now. And similarly, I know, too. Yeah. Right. And so that does
14:00affect us having a real friendship. And I think that's just a foreign concept for Karen on our
14:04platform. I see. Yeah. But I mean, I got her back, you know, I won't ride or die for her,
14:09but I'll ride for her. Right. How does Giselle manage the two friendships, you know, hers with you and
14:14then hers with Robin as you two like actively don't get along because that can't be easy for her.
14:19Oh, I mean, she's grown. She, it works out just fine. You know, and we talk, we talk about our
14:25stuff. We talk about dating. She has all my kids. Like, you know, we have our normal friendship. And
14:29then obviously she has a relationship with Robin. Two things can be true that she is a good friends
14:33with Giselle with Robin and she's good friends with me. What made me very excited to at the VRT
14:38Awards, which you look so stunning at. Thank you. That Candace was also there and she was talking so
14:43positively about you because we were like, yes, we weren't sure where we were like, we think they're good. But
14:47actually, we never, you never know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that you guys are seemingly in a good
14:50place. Um, yeah. So after a girl's trip, we had filmed in Atlanta and they actually cut out that
14:56she and I really got the scrapping. It got, it got really heated when we filmed girl's trip in
15:01Atlanta. Um, it was real bad. I was jumping around, clapping and all the things. Um, yes. And she was
15:07calling me that, that, that, that, it was just like old times basically. But then afterward, she showed me
15:12pictures of her son and we just started talking like normal. So like, we have these moments like
15:17sisters, like we were like, but then there's like a little fiber of like, but girl, how you really
15:21doing? That sort of thing, you know? So yeah. Was the fight over just like some things from the past
15:27that were on? Yeah. Okay. But I'm glad that you guys were able to hash that out and then get
15:31to a
15:31place where you both wish each other well and care for each other. Yes. We've actually had some very fun
15:35times together. Oh, I know. Cause she's so fun. She was like a perfect duo. Yes. Yes. I do miss
15:41her. Do you feel that? Do you think she would ever want to come back to reality? I mean, considering
15:46what Andy said on the stage. Oh yeah. I know that was, that's causing a lot of drama. I know.
15:53I know.
15:54Well, because we get asked a lot on, in press interviews and on the carpets, like, did she leave
15:59willingly or was she asked to leave? And we don't want to have to answer it. It's not something we
16:03want
16:03to answer. So, you know, it was nice that somebody else talked about it for a change.
16:07Yeah. And he said what he said. Yes, he did. Yeah. I was surprised at how candid he was
16:11about that. Candid about Candace. I would love to see her come back. Do you, do you miss her
16:16like in filming? Do you, cause I mean, she brought so much to the show. Yeah. I mean,
16:21there's definitely something about someone who's familiar to you. Yeah. You know, I know who she is.
16:25Right. I know what some of her buttons are. She knows mine. You know what I mean? I know her
16:29mom.
16:29So you know how to play with each other. Yeah. Like I care about her mother quite a bit. I'd
16:32love to see
16:33her as a mother herself. Yeah. So yeah, there is definitely like a big part of me that does miss
16:38her being on the show, but I don't know if it would be the right thing for her. She's doing
16:41so
16:42well right now too. I don't know if it would be the right thing. I know. And she's going to
16:45be in
16:45that off-Broadway play, which is so cool too. Yes, I know. Which is very exciting. Yes, I'm very happy
16:49for
16:49them. Yes. Stacy's going to be in an off-Broadway play. How does that make you feel? Yeah. You know,
16:53I'm not even going to front. I was, I was a little, a little sad that I wasn't asked to
16:57do it. I was, you know,
16:59and I'm like, I'm going to keep it a buck. Yeah. I couldn't be like, oh yeah, good for them.
17:02I don't care. I really,
17:03I cared. Did you like, was there an audition? I have no clue. So apparently it was like a management
17:07thing. So I guess my manager didn't put my name in the hat. Um, I was very sad, but happy
17:12for them.
17:13You know, Cynthia, Candace, Stacey, Dolores. Yeah. Love that for y'all, but I just wish I was there too.
17:19I hope it is like the start of a continuation thing. Cause you'd be so fun in there. Yeah. Thank
17:23you.
17:24And you know, I really want to be on Broadway. I'm manifesting at heart. Oh yeah. Let's do it. Yes.
17:28I'm wooing it up. I'm like, oh, what else are we manifesting? Um, I want to be married next year
17:33or at least engaged. Oh, I was the right man for me. Okay. Yeah. Are we still dating Josh right
17:42now?
17:42Yes, we are. Oh, okay. If it happens to be Josh. Beautiful. If it happens to be him, but I'm
17:48asking
17:48God, I'm, I'm trusting. I'm, I'm stopping my resistance. Okay. There's no more resistance from me.
17:53Would you want a big wedding? Um, I had a really small wedding the first time I got married in
17:58Jamaica.
17:58I had 60 guests. So yeah, I think I would. Candace's wedding was actually very nice.
18:03We filmed it and it was grand. Yeah. So maybe something like that. Would you record
18:07the planner wedding? Yeah. Well, I have my own event planner. She's my home girl. Like,
18:13you know what I mean? But it's no shade on Courtney, but my home girl is, oh yeah. She's decorating
18:17my house for Christmas next week. Cause you know, I decorate for Christmas right after Halloween.
18:21I love that. November 1st. We're putting it up. Mariah Carey is blasting. Do the kids love it?
18:26Yes. Yeah. Well, they love Halloween too. Oh, what are they being? Um, Harry Potter
18:31and Gogeta from dragon ball Z. Okay. Oh, I love that. I hate Halloween. You're not a Halloween
18:37girl. I'm not into it either. Yeah. It's too much. It's too much. It's dark. It's dark.
18:42Yes. Give me Santa Claus. Right. All day. And my dog is scared of the decorations on the street.
18:47I'm scared. People are knocking and ringing your bell for candy. I just leave the candy out. Like,
18:51I just put a big thing of candy on the porch and I say, y'all have at it. Yeah.
18:54Enjoy.
18:54And when it's gone, it's gone. That's right. I don't know what to do.
18:56That's right. Get it while you can. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You were so much fun.
19:01Thank you for chatting with us. Oh, I love it. Yes. And I love the setup. You know,
19:04I'm a big fan of here. Oh, well, thank you. I love it. It loves you right back. Thank you.