00:01would losing Steven Vogt be a huge loss?
00:04I think so.
00:05I agree.
00:07Like, I do think it does add some levity to it.
00:10We're like, hey, we're all licking our wounds.
00:12And when teams lose, there needs to be an airing
00:16and a time to air where you can say things
00:18that maybe you wouldn't mean on,
00:21if they lost yesterday,
00:23like maybe you wouldn't mean on Wednesday or Thursday.
00:26Tuesday, you may be mad, you may mean it.
00:28Like, I've said some really nasty things
00:31about the Browns after a loss,
00:32where I'm like, hmm, I'd like to have that one back.
00:38Said some really nasty things to Anthony
00:41that 15 minutes later, I'm like,
00:43eh, I'd like to have that one back.
00:47Like, you have things you like and you love
00:49and you say some nasty things, it happens.
00:52So I wince at asking this question
00:55because I don't think it's fair timing,
00:57but I had Anthony Kastrovitz today.
00:59I had to ask him that question.
01:01I don't know when I'm going to be able to get him again.
01:03We got the World Series.
01:03So it's like, hey, is there any legs
01:05to the whole Steven Vogt Seattle thing?
01:07They haven't found a manager yet.
01:09Now, I know that they are starting to hone in
01:11a little bit on the Twins manager
01:13or the former Twins manager or something like that.
01:16I read that during a break.
01:18So it's not like I'm keeping up
01:20on Mariners baseball for crying out loud.
01:22So I kind of want to know,
01:24but at the same time, I don't want to know
01:25because I think that today,
01:27I think people's reactions are shaded
01:29by what just happened yesterday.
01:32And I think that we get a much more reasonable
01:36group of answers tomorrow or Thursday.
01:40I don't think I'm wrong on that, Anthony.
01:42I do think it would be,
01:43I think it would be a significant loss
01:45to lose Steven Vogt.
01:47One of the things that I,
01:49you know, I look at the Guardians.
01:51The Guardians, to me, are a special franchise.
01:53They play in a land of giants
01:56that there's no salary cap.
01:59There's no limit to what you could spend,
02:02who you want to spend it on.
02:03If you want to go spend it like the Mets
02:06and waste that money and flush it down the toilet,
02:09you go right on ahead and do it.
02:11You want to spend money like the Dodgers
02:13where somehow they can defer it,
02:15and apparently we got it.
02:16There's an owner over there
02:17that might be in some hot water about some things,
02:19but you go right on ahead and do it.
02:20They've won two world championships.
02:22So we've seen it on both sides, right?
02:24There's only a few that can.
02:26For you, you've been special.
02:28You've scouted well.
02:29You have made the postseason
02:32an expected part of the season,
02:35and you've really turned it into an old hat.
02:38Like, there are fan bases out there
02:40that would kill to go to the postseason.
02:43The Rays used to be one of them.
02:45I think their organization
02:46has kind of made it into an old hat
02:48for the fans that they have.
02:49They don't have as many as we do,
02:50but they still have fans.
02:52I mean, the Marlins were a complete mess.
02:55If you let him go,
02:57like, it starts to mess with,
02:58like, I know that people look at,
03:00and it's a different sport,
03:01but, you know,
03:03I always caution Steeler fans
03:05where they're like,
03:05you know, we got a bottom out.
03:06We need the quarterback.
03:07You say that.
03:08I'm telling you, I've lived it.
03:10It ain't fun.
03:11It is.
03:12No, it's not.
03:12I know you're bored by going eight and nine,
03:14or excuse me, nine and eight every year,
03:16and I know you're bored by first-round exits.
03:18I'm telling you right now,
03:20it is not fun.
03:22It is dramatic.
03:23It is nasty.
03:25It makes you think.
03:26It is none of it is fun.
03:28It's really upsetting.
03:29Like, you don't have to worry about
03:31other generations,
03:32generations behind you
03:33not being Steelers fans.
03:35At nine and eight,
03:36you never have to worry about that.
03:37They'll be Steelers fans.
03:39The kids will be.
03:40Their kids' kids will be.
03:41At the Browns level
03:42and what they've been at times,
03:44like, yeah, we've had to worry about that.
03:45We've had those conversations.
03:47Plenty of kids in Odell jerseys
03:49when he was with the Giants.
03:50Plenty of kids in Burrow jerseys.
03:52And I don't want that in Cleveland
03:56and that start,
03:57I go, it's got to start somewhere.
03:58It starts to roll downhill somewhere.
04:00So when we say, let him go to Seattle,
04:02like, careful what you're saying.
04:05Like, yeah.
04:06And myself, I was critical of him.
04:08I thought he started to sound like
04:09Kevin Stefanski during the year.
04:11What team is in the LCS?
04:12Cleveland Guardians.
04:13But to go from, you know,
04:14Tito to vote
04:16was a seamless transition
04:18that I was very nervous about.
04:20And I remember his first year,
04:22we were wondering,
04:22are they even going to go 500?
04:24What are they going to be?
04:25Just because
04:27you're going from
04:28a guy that had developed
04:29into an icon
04:30here in Cleveland
04:32and obviously
04:33had the success,
04:34you know, with Boston.
04:35Like, he was a guy
04:36who'd been there,
04:37done that.
04:38Vote hadn't.
04:39So, honestly,
04:40when they hired him,
04:41and I'm not in that sport
04:42and talking to guys
04:44the way we are
04:45with the NFL
04:45and with the NBA.
04:47So people are like,
04:48yeah, he'll have a decent shot
04:50to be a good manager.
04:50But you don't know
04:51until you actually get out there.
04:53And then it's the element
04:54of 162
04:54and keeping a clubhouse intact
04:56and one that has
04:58somebody like
04:58Jose Ramirez
04:59in there.
05:00See, that's what I'm saying.
05:00So, like,
05:00how are you going to draw
05:01the respect
05:02from guys like that?
05:03Well, he pulled it off.
05:04He pulled it off
05:05in short order
05:05and then the proof
05:07was in the pudding
05:07and now here we are
05:08three years in
05:09and he's been one
05:10of the better managers
05:10in baseball.
05:11So, I'd be remiss
05:13if I just took it
05:15for granted.
05:15Now, I do know
05:16when it comes to, like,
05:18putting together
05:18the lineup every day,
05:21there is debate
05:22about that
05:23and whether that's
05:24the organization.
05:24And then you wonder,
05:25well, what about
05:26the pitching?
05:26What about controlling
05:27the pitching
05:28at the start of the series
05:29and then starting
05:31to allocate?
05:32Like, who's going
05:33to do what
05:34and where?
05:34Well, you know,
05:35but then you start
05:36to nitpick on what
05:37you think might be
05:38organization
05:38or what might not be.
05:40Like, Stephen Vota
05:40is not going to go
05:41out there and go,
05:42yeah, Mike Chernoff
05:44decided that Gavin
05:45Williams wasn't going
05:45to be pitching today.
05:46Like, he's not going
05:47to do that.
05:47That's part of the job
05:48is to take that
05:50criticism.
05:52And I like what
05:53Anthony Kastrovin
05:54said about the
05:55Parker Messick thing,
05:56but I digress from,
05:58like, you've got to
05:59think overall
06:00what has made
06:01the team special,
06:01okay, they have
06:03spent in the area
06:04that they can spend
06:05on.
06:05He is one of the
06:06highest paid managers
06:07in the game.
06:07He's actually, I think,
06:08what, seventh in
06:09Major League Baseball,
06:10if I'm not mistaken.
06:12I think he's right
06:13behind Aaron Boone.
06:15He's actually one of
06:15the better paid
06:16managers in Major
06:17League Baseball,
06:17so I have to think
06:18that Mike Chernoff
06:19and Chris Antonetti
06:20are two of the
06:21better paid front
06:22office guys in
06:23Major League Baseball.
06:24I mean, if you're
06:25keeping Mike Chernoff
06:26away from the Mets
06:27where his family is,
06:28for the love of God,
06:29you've got to be,
06:29he ain't doing it
06:30for free.
06:32And you've probably
06:32given him a lot of
06:33power.
06:34Wait, is his family
06:34not here either?
06:35Does anybody have a
06:36family here in
06:37Cleveland anymore?
06:37Well, I think
06:38they're actually known
06:39for, they are the
06:41least family team
06:42in the league.
06:42I don't know much
06:43about Mike Chernoff's
06:44personal life, but we
06:45know his father, and
06:47his father is in New
06:47York, so.
06:50But his immediate
06:51family, I imagine, is
06:52here.
06:52His wife and kids.
06:53Guessing, guessing,
06:54guessing.
06:552-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
06:57So, I mean, it is a
06:58good atmosphere to be
07:00in, and they give you
07:03power, they give you
07:04money, they don't pay
07:06it to the players, they
07:07give you a lot.
07:09Let me get to Nick in
07:10a car.
07:11You're next up on the
07:11fan.
07:12Hello.
07:13Hey, guys.
07:14Good morning.
07:14I'm kind of confused by
07:16this whole thing of, you
07:17know, vote going to
07:18Seattle.
07:19Is his wife, like, the
07:20governor of Washington?
07:21Like, she has to stay
07:24there.
07:25I'm sorry, I had to
07:26do it.
07:26I'm sorry.
07:27Wait a second, that
07:27might not matter
07:28anymore, apparently, if
07:29you've followed the news
07:30over the last 24 hours.
07:31Put the safety back
07:32on.
07:33Depends where you pass
07:34the bar.
07:34And, like, we have
07:36schools here, right?
07:37I think so.
07:38And we have homes.
07:39We've looked at a few.
07:40I guess my point is,
07:42Ken, like...
07:42Are there no work
07:43houses?
07:44Are there no poor
07:44houses?
07:45Are the mills in full
07:46of vigor?
07:47If you were to get a,
07:49you know, an opportunity
07:50where you, let's say,
07:53doubled your income
07:54and got a job in the
07:55New York market, I
07:56mean, would your
07:58family not go with
07:58you?
08:00I'm really struggling
08:01as to, oh, why...
08:02They would, but I
08:03don't know.
08:04Yeah, they would, but
08:05I don't know if I would
08:06considering as, like,
08:07Pete Franklin went out
08:08there and things changed
08:08for him and he was a
08:09legend, so...
08:10Right, I get all that.
08:12I'm not, like, I'm
08:13just saying, like, I
08:14don't...
08:15This whole thing where
08:16he's got to go to...
08:17He's got to go back to
08:18Washington because that's
08:19where his family is.
08:20Why the hell can't his
08:20family come here?
08:21We've got houses, we've
08:22got schools.
08:23Well, Nick, I...
08:24You know, that was
08:24the first thought I...
08:26When Anthony was
08:26talking about that,
08:27that was the first
08:27thought I had.
08:28I'm gonna let you go
08:29and I thank you very
08:29much for the call
08:30because I did think
08:30that, and thank you
08:31very much.
08:32Now, Lyme and I do
08:33have experience knowing
08:35people who, at least...
08:37You're more basketball.
08:40We've known football
08:41coaches and basketball
08:42coaches where it's not
08:43that easy.
08:45Like, we had a guy who
08:47Lyme and I know very
08:48well, like, yeah, they
08:48got nice schools and
08:49they got nice houses
08:50out in Los Angeles,
08:51California.
08:51It just wasn't for
08:52him.
08:55And the Midwest
08:56seemed to be a better
08:57fit.
08:58There's all those
08:59things that play into
08:59this.
09:00So, I can understand
09:04where it's like, yeah,
09:05we got great schools
09:06here.
09:07I just remembered I
09:08have to do something
09:09for one of those
09:09schools right now off
09:10the top of my head.
09:11I gotta write that
09:11down.
09:12However, we got great
09:14schools here.
09:14We got great
09:15neighborhoods here.
09:15We get packages
09:16from a lot of those
09:17schools.
09:17We get packages
09:18from some of those
09:19schools.
09:19We're bought and
09:20paid for by big
09:21school.
09:23Can you, would you
09:24just give me one
09:26second to be serious
09:27for a moment?
09:29For the love of God,
09:30it's either Ramaswamy
09:31with you.
09:32Wait, I shook his
09:33hand.
09:34It's, it's, it's,
09:36the big school
09:38payments and things.
09:39Could you just stop
09:39it?
09:40Well, are we trying
09:41to get what's in the
09:42box going again here?
09:44What's in the box is a
09:45reoccurring bid on the
09:46show and it will
09:47continue to be what's
09:48in the box?
09:50Oh, what's in the box?
09:52Is there a new box?
09:53Is there a new box?
09:54No, I just wanted to
09:55Oh, ladies and
09:56gentlemen, for there to
09:56be a new, I've had
09:57like three people
09:58sending, they're
09:58sending us boxes.
09:59I'm like, where's
10:00your box?
10:00Let me make it
10:00clear for there to
10:02be another installment
10:03of what's in the box.
10:04You gotta be a
10:05school.
10:05We have to have a
10:06box.
10:06Yeah.
10:07You can't have to
10:08send the box.
10:08I've said, okay.
10:09So we open up the
10:10boxes, fill the box
10:11with goodies, to the
10:13brim, where it's
10:15actually hard to, when
10:16you go to the post
10:17office, they're like
10:17or goodies, you
10:18might have to send
10:19two boxes.
10:20I don't know with
10:21nor, and you know
10:22what's annoying when
10:23they're like, you do
10:24the tape, like all of
10:26a sudden I'm a
10:26packager.
10:27Yeah.
10:27I'm not a
10:28manufacturing plant.
10:29We can't send stuff
10:30out every day.
10:31We've got other jobs.
10:32You've seen this
10:32brim.
10:33Like, can you go help
10:34out, stock it to the
10:35brim, send the box.
10:36You'll get more
10:37installments of what's
10:38in the box.
10:38Yes.
10:39I still have had like
10:40three ADs going,
10:41what's your size?
10:42And we still don't
10:44have our box.
10:47Where's the box?
10:48Then you call your
10:48wife at home, make
10:49sure she's not in the
10:50box.
10:51Well, her head.
10:52Yeah.
10:52Oh, did I give away
10:53the movie?
10:54I didn't give away the
10:55movie, did I?
10:56We didn't say which
10:56one.
10:57Okay.
10:57We know how that movie
10:58ends by now.
10:59It's been long enough.
11:00But because of that
11:01movie, when you do see a
11:03box, you say what's in
11:04the box.
11:04You're like, this isn't
11:06a dark prank, right?
11:08Show me wrath.
11:11Like, my family's okay,
11:13right?
11:15All right.
11:16Is Steven Vogt, is
11:18losing Steven Vogt, would
11:19that be such a huge loss?
11:21Or is he going to pack
11:21up his boxes and head to
11:22Seattle?
11:23I say it is.
11:25Get Carmen Anthony
11:26live alive.
11:27I'm the fan.
