00:00So viewers, the story that we're following for you in this hour is the fact that Abhijee Dipke,
00:05the CJP founder, who was detained for the second time in, in fact, a week,
00:09has been produced before the magistrate court.
00:13And the proceedings are underway at the Mandir Mahakola station,
00:15massive security outside Mandir Mahakola station.
00:18Dipke arrested, remember, for disturbing peace on Friday,
00:22where he had, in fact, called for a Tiranga rally, Leherado Tiranga rally.
00:27And this was, in fact, at the heart of the national capital, at CP.
00:32That's where it was to be held.
00:33But what we did see is right before, hours before that rally was to be held at 5 p.m.,
00:40the police reached the residence where he has been putting up.
00:44And then post that, they made him sign another peace notice.
00:49And yet, the minute he stepped out of his house later on, he was detained from there.
00:55Anshal Singh, joining us on the broadcast, who's been tracking all these developments for the past couple of hours.
01:01Anshal, what exactly is happening at this hour?
01:05Are you getting any details of the arguments or the proceedings that's underway inside?
01:10Anything that you're learning right now?
01:16Well, the hearing has still not started, is what we are picking up.
01:19Abhijit Dipke came over here approximately an hour ago.
01:21In fact, he was brought over here approximately an hour ago.
01:24But still, the hearing that should have started has still not started.
01:28It's still going to take some time for the hearing to begin.
01:30But yes, the arguments from the side of the Delhi police is pretty clear in this entire matter.
01:34They will try to press this point across that Abhijit Dipke, if at all he is allowed to walk free
01:40again,
01:41then he could yet again try to go ahead and disrupt law and order and peace situation out here in
01:46the New Delhi district
01:47and also in the national capital.
01:48So, that is one of the main arguments.
01:50In fact, the whole fulcrum of the arguments is based on this point that the Delhi police will seek a
01:56judicial custody,
01:57will ask the special executive magistrate to send Abhijit Dipke to judicial custody,
02:01so that for the next few days till the time he is in judicial custody, the situation could improve.
02:09And eventually, if he is allowed to let go, then the law and order situation would not be disturbed.
02:13So, yes, now it only remains to be seen as to for how many days will the Delhi police actually
02:18seek that judicial custody
02:20or will ask the court to send him to judicial custody.
02:22That is something that remains to be seen.
02:24But yes, at this point in time, the hearing has not started.
02:26And we are expecting that within the next five to seven minutes, the hearing could start,
02:30which could take, the hearing could take in itself somewhere around 15 to 20 minutes
02:34before a decision is taken by the special executive magistrate.
02:39Right, Anshul.
02:40So, the question largely remains more than jail or bail.
02:44It seems, as you are saying, that what is likely in this case is jail, as in judicial custody.
02:50The question largely remains for how many days.
02:52Now, there is another question I want to come to here.
02:56If all of the three main leaders of the Kokoro Chanta Party are put behind bars in judicial custody,
03:07then who carries forward the movement?
03:09Because as we speak, we have seen the left parties already protesting today, as of today, at Chantar Mantar.
03:15They are trying to reach Chantar Mantar.
03:17There was another protest that, in fact, unfolded outside the Delhi Police Headquarters.
03:21So, even if the CJP leadership, per se, is behind bars, we still see protests do continue.
03:29So, without, in fact, you know, continuing with the debate on the heavy-handedness of the police
03:35or perhaps the detentions that are being questioned, the barricading that's being questioned,
03:40how will the police control or bring the situation under control of protests that are panning out across the national
03:48capital?
03:53Well, if you look at the number of people who are involved in these protests, that number is not that
03:58high, per se.
03:58But if at all, both these groups, that is the left-leaning student organizations and the CJP,
04:05when both of them come together, then the number of protesters actually increase.
04:11But in this case, the CJP has already made this clear.
04:13They have gone ahead and named Ajankhia as the second-in-command
04:17till the time these people are behind the bars or they are in detention or in custody, for that matter,
04:22till the time Ajankhia will be the person who will be taking a call as to how to take this
04:26entire protest
04:27and this entire movement forward.
04:28On the other hand, the left student organizations have been relentless.
04:32We have known this for a very, very long time.
04:33They are continuously trying to build pressure.
04:36But yes, the number of people who were becoming a part of these protests is certainly going down
04:41and that is somewhere or the other can be seen as a relief for the Delhi police
04:44because the number that the Delhi police was thinking would get on the streets on the 10th of October,
04:51that was substantially less than the prediction that was done from the side of the Delhi police
04:57and subsequently after that, the protests that have been happening even yesterday,
05:01we saw what happened at Connaught Place.
05:02There were absolutely zero detentions that might have happened at CP.
05:05People came over there, unfolded the national flag, gave their bites to YouTubers and then went away from there.
05:11And yes, there were small locations in which a tussle between two groups of YouTubers or for that matter,
05:16between a group of people who had come there to unfold the flag and certain security personals as well.
05:22Apart from those isolated instances that were reported from Connaught Place yesterday,
05:27there were no major instances of any sort of disruption of peace that happened over there as well.
05:33So yes, the Delhi police is also trying to give this message across that they are not against the right
05:39of people to protest,
05:40but they are also bound by the constitution.
05:42It is their responsibility to ensure law and order and that is the reason why Abhijit, Dipke and his supporters
05:50could not be allowed to be on these streets together because the last time that they were out on these
05:54streets,
05:54there was arson that happened on the streets of New Delhi.
05:57And this is one of the primary reasons why the Delhi police is so adamant to not allow Dipke and
06:06his supporters
06:07to get on these streets at the same time.
06:09Right. Anshul, I'll request you to stay back.
